Hot hot hot!!! G2 gets to 40C when charging? - G2 and Desire Z General

Anyone else notice their G2 runs super hot in general? My friend with a Desire Z is able to daily use 1.4GHz...I have to set mine to on demand between 245 and 998 for it not to hit 38C+.
On top of that, my G2 gets about 40C when I'm charging which is certainly quite hot! Running Virtuous 0.7.2 w/pershoot, but it does this on Cyanogen and evil kernel as well.
Does anyone know of any disassembly shots/videos? I'm thinking I might take everything apart and re-thermal paste everything...
Thanks!
verkion

Eh... 1st of all... you're going to put thermal paste on the battery? The temperature reading for the g2 is the temperature of the battery.
2nd: I've never heard of a phone that had a heatsink on its cpu. So I don't think you'd even have a place to put thermal paste.
40c is totally fine btw.
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Not on the battery! Although, that's an interesting idea...use the dry thermal pads between the battery and the door. I'm just checking if everything is getting overly hot compared to some of your other devices. Thought it may be the charging circuit having issues or something...or bad battery.
40C is fine though? At what temp do most of you have set for CPU throttling in SetCPU then? I have mine throttle to lowest when it hits that temp.
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Eh... 1st of all... you're going to put thermal paste on the battery? The temperature reading for the g2 is the temperature of the battery.
2nd: I've never heard of a phone that had a heatsink on its cpu. So I don't think you'd even have a place to put thermal paste.
40c is totally fine btw.
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40C does sound pretty warm to me even if its while the phone is charging. I am OC'd to 1.4ghz and even when using the phone while charging, I hardly ever go over 37C.
My on-demand is set to 368/1497 and when temp>38C 245/768, although that profile never really comes into play as my temperature rarely gets that hot. Have you checked your running applications to see if there is something eating system resources? Reason I say that is because the only time my phone gets noticeably 'hotter' is after I have been playing Angry Birds for say 20+ minutes.

I wonder if its due to Variable charging currents/rates. I've noticed this is particularly problematic when i charge from say...15% battery. And yeah, Angry Birds for 20+ mins = toasty!
verkion

Hmmm, that seems a bit warmer than the norm. The thermal pad idea was a good thought though. But I'd suspect some modding to be done for it to work.

There's a very detailed teardown at http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down

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Over heat problems

What do you consider an over heat temperature for a phone?
My g2 over clocked @ 1.42ghz reaches 108 max when playing emulators and 3d games, is that consider over heat?
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Nope overheat would be like 112 or once your phone turns off its self
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lainvalenajr said:
Nope overheat would be like 112 or once your phone turns off its self
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So could that be reason for reboots on my previous G2 where temp would reach even 115?
I remember the sidekick lx 09 use to have the overheat problem and sidekicks usually warn you with a thermometer. Sign where the battery sign goes. I once put my phone in the fridge and forgot about it in the and left it there freezing for a good hour, luckily it didn't damage but it had ice flakes all over....
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androidfeen809 said:
So could that be reason for reboots on my previous G2 where temp would reach even 115?
I remember the sidekick lx 09 use to have the overheat problem and sidekicks usually warn you with a thermometer. Sign where the battery sign goes. I once put my phone in the fridge and forgot about it in the and left it there freezing for a good hour, luckily it didn't damage but it had ice flakes all over....
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Eh... Well having a phone even over 110 can damage the component within the phone, that's why one my phone even gets near 110 I lower my overclock or even turn it off completely. LOL lucky ur phone didnt get messed up in the freezer.
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For a moment I thought that these temperatures are in celsius
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For a moment I thought that these temperatures are in celsius
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Me too, took a second look
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"Overheat" for me is when the battery cover becomes very hot to the touch. This has happened to me once.
I bought one of those el cheapo batteries from Ebay and then trashed it when I realized that my phone was no longer reading the temperature correctly.
androidfeen809 said:
What do you consider an over heat temperature for a phone?
My g2 over clocked @ 1.42ghz reaches 108 max when playing emulators and 3d games, is that consider over heat?
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Off-topic here, what emulators are you running on your phone?
misbehave said:
Off-topic here, what emulators are you running on your phone?
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PSX4Droid, snes, gba, gbc, and nds4droid, the latter sucks games are choppy and very laggy
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My phone gets uncomforably high when I'm using it overclocked that high while I'm charging. It usually cools down for me after I unplug it, and sometimes I take off my battery cover as the aluminum heats up pretty quick too.
The lid might act as a heat sink... I dunno but just a thought. I set my alarms at 40c
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This may sound stupid but is there such thing as under heating a phone or over cooling it? Cuz in the winter phone temp is usually very low even when I play emulators going to college @ the train station
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androidfeen809 said:
This may sound stupid but is there such thing as under heating a phone or over cooling it? Cuz in the winter phone temp is usually very low even when I play emulators going to college @ the train station
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Maybe, it depends on the situation. Very low temperatures will affect the LCD temporarily and maybe cause poor battery efficiency but shouldn't affect the running of the phone too much. If its cold outside, the phone will be able to dissipate the heat more.
Transition between high and low temperatures can significantly affect it though. I think its high temp to low temp, the air will condense and deposit moisture in the phone. Again, its probably nothing to really worry about, its only extreme temperature change that does that normally.
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I think cellphones are made with outside temperatures between -10° and +50° C in mind.

Nexus 4 Heating?

Hello, I've had my nexus 4 for about a week and a halfish now and I've noticed that the phone is running pretty warm after even just light usage. I download a battery temperature reader and a CPU temperature measurer. At Idle the batter temperature is at about 33-36 degrees Celsuis. And the CPU temperature at Idle is usually in the lower 40's at idle. Are these Temperatures to high?
Also When I plays games or use any apps for a just a few minutes the battery Temperatures get at around 40 degress C and the CPU temp is usually around the 45-50 area. Again Are these temperature to high?
I would really appreciate if anyone could give me useful help on this issue I'm having with my phone.
Is this normal for a nexus 4?
Should I be concerned?
Should I get a new nexus 4?
Andman012 said:
Hello, I've had my nexus 4 for about a week and a halfish now and I've noticed that the phone is running pretty warm after even just light usage. I download a battery temperature reader and a CPU temperature measurer. At Idle the batter temperature is at about 33-36 degrees Celsuis. And the CPU temperature at Idle is usually in the lower 40's at idle. Are these Temperatures to high?
Also When I plays games or use any apps for a just a few minutes the battery Temperatures get at around 40 degress C and the CPU temp is usually around the 45-50 area. Again Are these temperature to high?
I would really appreciate if anyone could give me useful help on this issue I'm having with my phone.
Is this normal for a nexus 4?
Should I be concerned?
Should I get a new nexus 4?
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I'm assuming your Nexus 4 is a newer one (rev. 11). Nexus 4s have been known to run quite hot. My rev. 10 is at 42 C coming out of sleep without use, earlier when I played Need for Speed, it got to 60 C. It seems to be normal for mine, although it does get uncomfortably hot.
Andman012 said:
Hello, I've had my nexus 4 for about a week and a halfish now and I've noticed that the phone is running pretty warm after even just light usage. I download a battery temperature reader and a CPU temperature measurer. At Idle the batter temperature is at about 33-36 degrees Celsuis. And the CPU temperature at Idle is usually in the lower 40's at idle. Are these Temperatures to high?
Also When I plays games or use any apps for a just a few minutes the battery Temperatures get at around 40 degress C and the CPU temp is usually around the 45-50 area. Again Are these temperature to high?
I would really appreciate if anyone could give me useful help on this issue I'm having with my phone.
Is this normal for a nexus 4?
Should I be concerned?
Should I get a new nexus 4?
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completely normal. right smack in the middle of the range of normal. remember, human body temperature average is 37C or 98.6F. when you use your device, the temp will go up when you use a cpu intensive game, the temperature will get even hotter. this all also depends on the surrounding air temperature. the warmer it is around, the warmer the device will get or idle.
Normal. Because the back is made of glass, it absorbs the heat and you feel it more than other phones.
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Lol My Nexus S get's warm on idle because of the hot air around. haha my nexus 4 coming in 3 days let's see!
This btonons
Hmm, That seems weird, if the phone throttles you at 37 degrees shouldn't my phone not be idling at that temperature, and the my front screen seems to get warm after slight usage to. And looking on other forums people with a stock nexus 4 said that there phone idles around mid twenties, not the lower-mid thirties.
sidnoit22 said:
Lol My Nexus S get's warm on idle because of the hot air around. haha my nexus 4 coming in 3 days let's see!
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I hope you like it man, besides the warmness of the phone it's pretty sweet!
Andman012 said:
Hello, I've had my nexus 4 for about a week and a halfish now and I've noticed that the phone is running pretty warm after even just light usage. I download a battery temperature reader and a CPU temperature measurer. At Idle the batter temperature is at about 33-36 degrees Celsuis. And the CPU temperature at Idle is usually in the lower 40's at idle. Are these Temperatures to high?
Also When I plays games or use any apps for a just a few minutes the battery Temperatures get at around 40 degress C and the CPU temp is usually around the 45-50 area. Again Are these temperature to high?
I would really appreciate if anyone could give me useful help on this issue I'm having with my phone.
Is this normal for a nexus 4?
Should I be concerned?
Should I get a new nexus 4?
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for hard working with QuadCore it s normal to get ~40 C quickly
But after 40C i think it s not normal and it s better to ask official service
Andman012 said:
Hmm, That seems weird, if the phone throttles you at 37 degrees shouldn't my phone not be idling at that temperature, and thetfront screen seems to get warm after slight usage to. And looking on other forums people with a stock nexus 4 said that there phone idles around mid twenties, not the lower-mid thirties.
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look at the time they were posted. now its warmer eveeywhere. and again, human body temp is 37C. you have a quad core phone, it WILL get hot at times, that is normal. pushing the device, you might even see 70C or 75C.
simms22 said:
look at the time they were posted. now its warmer eveeywhere. and again, human body temp is 37C. you have a quad core phone, it WILL get hot at times, that is normal. pushing the device, you might even see 70C or 75C.
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Hmm okay I have pushed the phone and the highest CPU temp I reached was about 60ish. I'm not exactly worried about how hot it gets, it's just how fast it gets hot, it seems a little odd that just running facebook and twitter for a few minutes can get the battery temperature up to 40 degrees celsius.
x102x96x said:
for hard working with QuadCore it s normal to get ~40 C quickly
But after 40C i think it s not normal and it s better to ask official service
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That sounds similar to the results that I have found on the web, people said that to get there battery temperature up to 40 degress they have to push the phone, mine gets there just by opening a few apps.
If you want to cool it down and you are happy with messing about with your phone, try undervolting the CPU. Although I tend not to check the temperature, my phone (UVd by around -150) feels far cooler; playing Real Racing it doesn't get as warm as simple browsing would on stock.
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Tom540 said:
If you want to cool it down and you are happy with messing about with your phone, try undervolting the CPU. Although I tend not to check the temperature, my phone (UVd by around -150) feels far cooler; playing Real Racing it doesn't get as warm as simple browsing would on stock.
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I have heard of this, but I'm more focused on how the temperature should be on this phone untampered. Rooting and tweaking kind of scares me a bit.
Andman012 said:
That sounds similar to the results that I have found on the web, people said that to get there battery temperature up to 40 degress they have to push the phone, mine gets there just by opening a few apps.
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Try faux kernel and undervolt t by -125 my friend using that combo and its mostly 25degrees.
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Andman012 said:
Hmm okay I have pushed the phone and the highest CPU temp I reached was about 60ish. I'm not exactly worried about how hot it gets, it's just how fast it gets hot, it seems a little odd that just running facebook and twitter for a few minutes can get the battery temperature up to 40 degrees celsius.
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40C is not hot. get that out of your head. idle temp will depend on the air temperature around you. yesterday was 91 in nyc, my phone was idling between 39-42C. stick your hand in 40C water, itll barely feel warm.
simms22 said:
40C is not hot. get that out of your head. idle temp will depend on the air temperature around you. yesterday was 91 in nyc, my phone was idling between 39-42C. stick your hand in 40C water, itll barely feel warm.
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40 C is 104 F degrees, That would feel more than just "barely warm"
Andman012 said:
40 C is 104 degrees, That would feel more than just a "barley warm"
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On a surface like metal it would, but not in water. That said, the back of the phone isn't water but I'm sure the temperature of the back of the phone is lower than the CPU
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Tom540 said:
On a surface like metal it would, but not in water. That said, the back of the phone isn't water but I'm sure the temperature of the back of the phone is lower than the CPU
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Couldn't agree more, The back of the phone I wouldn't say it HOT, but it is definitely very warm. But I'm not talking about how hot the phone feels. I'm trying to ask about the internal temperatures and if it's normal for it to heat up so fast.
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Couldn't agree more, The back of the phone I wouldn't say it HOT, but it is definitely very warm. But I'm not talking about how hot the phone feels. I'm trying to ask about the internal temperatures and if it's normal for it to heat up so fast.
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again. this is normal. 104F would not feel more than slightly warm water.
the glass in the back of the phone is there to draw out the heat from the phone. its glass, and will feel warm. if you have problems with 40C, then i would recommend that you buy a dumb phone. my nexus 7, galaxy nexus, and nexus 4 all idle a bit warmer now than in winter. 40C is very normal.
simms22 said:
40C is not hot. get that out of your head. idle temp will depend on the air temperature around you. yesterday was 91 in nyc, my phone was idling between 39-42C. stick your hand in 40C water, itll barely feel warm.
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Its normal, have a look at the graph!
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Nexus 4 is to hot.

Hello,
I have Mahdi ROM, and tried this kernels: Hells Core, Matr1x and Ak. But my phone go very hot and the battery drain tot fast.
Phone is rooted, I run Greenify, Gmail and WhatsApp. Sync is off.
Is there any good and friendly battery kernel?
Without go to hot?
I have nog this settings in Hells Core.
Min: 384000
Max: 1026000 with ondemand
GPU: 128
Undervolted begin with: 65000
YourTheBest said:
Hello,
I have Mahdi ROM, and tried this kernels: Hells Core, Matr1x and Ak. But my phone go very hot and the battery drain tot fast.
Phone is rooted, I run Greenify, Gmail and WhatsApp. Sync is off.
Is there any good and friendly battery kernel?
Without go to hot?
I have nog this settings in Hells Core.
Min: 384000
Max: 1026000 with ondemand
GPU: 128
Undervolted begin with: 65000
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too hot says nothing. whats the cpu temp?
anyways, if your phone gets too hot, it will hit the safety shutdown and turn itself off. anything below that temp, is not too hot. you have a quad core phone, its normal for it to get hot. with using cpu or gpu intensive apps, it can get extremely hot, and thats normal. tyhe n4 also has a glass back, and for a reason, to cool off the phone. the heat gets transfered through the glass to the surrounding air. because heat gets pushed through the back glass, it will feel hotter. again, if your phone was "too hot", it would shut itself down.
anyways, cpu shutdown temp is 100C, and you arent anywhere near it.
your battery drain is unrelated. battery life all depends on how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and very much the quality of your phone/data connection.
Don't worry about the temperatures. I don't know about you but during the summer my phone heats up a LOT, and that too very often, but it doesn't harm the phone
has simms22 said, the way the phone is built you get the feeling that the phone is really hot in this time of year
the battery drain depends of the use but if it is really draining fast while idle (like 6-10% for hour IDLE) and the battery charging is inconsistent then you may have a problem with the battery
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too hot says nothing. whats the cpu temp?
anyways, if your phone gets too hot, it will hit the safety shutdown and turn itself off. anything below that temp, is not too hot. you have a quad core phone, its normal for it to get hot. with using cpu or gpu intensive apps, it can get extremely hot, and thats normal. tyhe n4 also has a glass back, and for a reason, to cool off the phone. the heat gets transfered through the glass to the surrounding air. because heat gets pushed through the back glass, it will feel hotter. again, if your phone was "too hot", it would shut itself down.
anyways, cpu shutdown temp is 100C, and you arent anywhere near it.
your battery drain is unrelated. battery life all depends on how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and very much the quality of your phone/data connection.
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It might not be normal, and the battery consumption may be related. I had a similar issue a while back after updating my carbon to a latest nightly, I started getting very poor battery life and the phone used to get too hot (just hotter than normal), when I checked the battery consumption, it was Google Play Services and its wakelocks.
@OP, check what's eating up all your battery..
I find that Franco kernel offers a perfect mix of performance/battery.
Apart from that I'll repeat what others said. Due to the design the nexus 4 often feels hotter than it actually is. But I can assure you that nothing will happen. If it really reaches a temperature high enough to harm your hardware the device will shutdown automatically. But it's likely you'll only reach such temperatures while running benchmarks at full power and over clocked.
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nexus 4 is sexy thats why shes hot
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nexus 4 is sexy thats why shes hot
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Made my day. Thank you, sir!

G3 Temperature Throttling

Stuck my phone in the freezer for a few minutes, took it out, and ran the stability test in AnTuTu which plots the temperature and a benchmark score. Looks like it starts right around 34 degrees (93 Fahrenheit), which really isn't that warm at all. You could get that just browsing around and holding it in your hand.
My cpu temp is normally in the 40's and 50's while browsing.
Have you tried turning the thermal daemon mitigation and high temperature property off in the hidden menu and see if this throttling happen? Will be interesting to know if the hidden menu selection works.
ddeath said:
Have you tried turning the thermal daemon mitigation and high temperature property off in the hidden menu and see if this throttling happen? Will be interesting to know if the hidden menu selection works.
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It does work. you can just open an app like setcpu and you'll see that it rarely peaks without disabling throttling. Just be careful as it does open you up to potential hardware failures and shorter life of the device. I only keep phones for around 6 months so I don't care but I'm not a normal usage case.
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It does work. you can just open an app like setcpu and you'll see that it rarely peaks without disabling throttling. Just be careful as it does open you up to potential hardware failures and shorter life of the device. I only keep phones for around 6 months so I don't care but I'm not a normal usage case.
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Wouldn't the hardware still have a thermal cut off point where it will just shut down the phone if it gets too hot? It's to my understanding that this hardware shut off point is different than the software thermal throttling. If anything, I think it will just make your device get too hot for comfort than do any real hardware damage to it.
I'm just throwing an educated guess out there though, I honestly have no real proof one way or the other.
Enddo said:
Wouldn't the hardware still have a thermal cut off point where it will just shut down the phone if it gets too hot? It's to my understanding that this hardware shut off point is different than the software thermal throttling. If anything, I think it will just make your device get too hot for comfort than do any real hardware damage to it.
I'm just throwing an educated guess out there though, I honestly have no real proof one way or the other.
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Yes eventually it'll hit tjunction and shut down. This isn't even a safe shut down though. It is basically an emergency kill switch. It's like yanking the cord out of the wall on a desktop. Running at higher temps also shortens the life of the silicone. Much the same effect that overclocking has on a normal PC.
Enddo said:
Wouldn't the hardware still have a thermal cut off point where it will just shut down the phone if it gets too hot? It's to my understanding that this hardware shut off point is different than the software thermal throttling. If anything, I think it will just make your device get too hot for comfort than do any real hardware damage to it.
I'm just throwing an educated guess out there though, I honestly have no real proof one way or the other.
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If it gets hot, it will do damage. It can fry the GPU before it even gets to shutdown point. The XBOX 360 for example had the RROD where the constant heat made the solder joints fail (I know the 360 is different but the heat point stands)
scy1192 said:
Stuck my phone in the freezer for a few minutes, took it out, and ran the stability test in AnTuTu which plots the temperature and a benchmark score. Looks like it starts right around 34 degrees (93 Fahrenheit), which really isn't that warm at all. You could get that just browsing around and holding it in your hand.
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The 34 in this case is temp or battery, not SoC. The SoC is probably hit 75 Celcius and that's why CPU throttles. Try HWBot bench instead, it shows not battery but CPU temp. You will see that CPU immediately hits 75°
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Enddo said:
Wouldn't the hardware still have a thermal cut off point where it will just shut down the phone if it gets too hot? It's to my understanding that this hardware shut off point is different than the software thermal throttling. If anything, I think it will just make your device get too hot for comfort than do any real hardware damage to it.
I'm just throwing an educated guess out there though, I honestly have no real proof one way or the other.
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Afaik they shut down itself if battery hits 60°C or CPU burns to smthn like 105C
HWBot runs parallel... If you want to see your CPU get really hot press the button multiple times. Phone melted!
Why does the snapdragon get so hot. I don't understand what's the point of a fast chip in these phones if they can't run on there maximum lol.... Maybe that's why Intel is gonna take over qualcom one day.
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helikido said:
Why does the snapdragon get so hot. I don't understand what's the point of a fast chip in these phones if they can't run on there maximum lol.... Maybe that's why Intel is gonna take over qualcom one day.
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It runs hotter because its having to produce all the pixels for the QHD. The same chip in other 1080 phones doesn't run as hot. At times doing normal things like browsing and Facebook etc my phone has throttled down to 1.4Ghz max and the CPU temp is up at 65-70deg C. That's pretty hot.
androiduser991 said:
It runs hotter because its having to produce all the pixels for the QHD. The same chip in other 1080 phones doesn't run as hot. At times doing normal things like browsing and Facebook etc my phone has throttled down to 1.4Ghz max and the CPU temp is up at 65-70deg C. That's pretty hot.
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Its not the only phone. And mine never throttles that low doing normal tasks. It doesn't even throttle at all. However, when playing games or running demanding apps it does throttle.
Also, its not the only phone that runs this hot. All other phones will get hot and throttle just as much when running equally demanding stuff.
So the question was, what's the point of super fast chips when they are going to throttle themselves so fast?
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helikido said:
Its not the only phone. And mine never throttles that low doing normal tasks. It doesn't even throttle at all. However, when playing games or running demanding apps it does throttle.
Also, its not the only phone that runs this hot. All other phones will get hot and throttle just as much when running equally demanding stuff.
So the question was, what's the point of super fast chips when they are going to throttle themselves so fast?
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I'd recommend that you do a bit of testing,run some apps for 5-10 min then open up a CPU frequency app. The frequency will be be at a low maximum and the temp high. The GPU also throttles, open an app like Faux clock after running some apps and the max GPU value has decreased. Without a doubt the extra pixels are causing this as the SOC is having to work harder to produce them. Its simple physics.B
But anyway, its a specs game. People want faster and better so that's why the SOCs get faster and faster even if they're throttling.
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I'd recommend that you do a bit of testing,run some apps for 5-10 min then open up a CPU frequency app. The frequency will be be at a low maximum and the temp high. The GPU also throttles, open an app like Faux clock after running some apps and the max GPU value has decreased. Without a doubt the extra pixels are causing this as the SOC is having to work harder to produce them. Its simple physics.B
But anyway, its a specs game. People want faster and better so that's why the SOCs get faster and faster even if they're throttling.
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The soc is working harder, but like I just said the how soc is still hot even on other phones man.
Run the dead trigger on the s5 and the g3. They both most likely throttle down to the same limit while the fps on the G3 might be a little lower due to the resolution.
But like I just said, what's the point when the damn thing will burn. There is no point in 2.5ghz when your phone can't run at that frequency more than 5 seconds lol.
I remember when I used to run my Galaxy S One full speed. Not one but of throttling. These CPUs have not gotten any more efficient thermal wise.
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helikido said:
The soc is working harder, but like I just said the how soc is still hot even on other phones man.
Run the dead trigger on the s5 and the g3. They both most likely throttle down to the same limit while the fps on the G3 might be a little lower due to the resolution.
But like I just said, what's the point when the damn thing will burn. There is no point in 2.5ghz when your phone can't run at that frequency more than 5 seconds lol.
I remember when I used to run my Galaxy S One full speed. Not one but of throttling. These CPUs have not gotten any more efficient thermal wise.
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Yeah, I agree there's not much point in having a super fast chip when it throttles so much. Again, people want bigger faster and better and most users wont even know about thermal throtlling.It does seem to be bad on the G3 though. I think I saw another thread that said LG don't use a proper thermal pad also. Don't know about that but to run a 1080 phone with the same chip as a 2k phone then you'll have thermal and performance issues on the 2k Vs the 1080.
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Yeah, I agree there's not much point in having a super fast chip when it throttles so much. Again, people want bigger faster and better and most users wont even know about thermal throtlling.It does seem to be bad on the G3 though. I think I saw another thread that said LG don't use a proper thermal pad also. Don't know about that but to run a 1080 phone with the same chip as a 2k phone then you'll have thermal and performance issues on the 2k Vs the 1080.
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The 801 is more than capable of driving a QHD phone. The 800 series are basically created to support up to 4k. And how will give the same performance as a 800 while on QHD. Its not even close to being a big deal. And yeah I saw that same thread. I wonder if it's true.
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androiduser991 said:
It runs hotter because its having to produce all the pixels for the QHD. The same chip in other 1080 phones doesn't run as hot. At times doing normal things like browsing and Facebook etc my phone has throttled down to 1.4Ghz max and the CPU temp is up at 65-70deg C. That's pretty hot.
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That's not totally true, every Note 3 and S5 I tried ran hotter than this G3.
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I see that the layered CPU/memory unit has a metal cover to it, im wondering if a thin thermal pad could be placed between them to conduct heat to the metal cover. Its not much of a heatsink, but it might help a little bit. It may even be possible to put a thin copper sheet on the metal cover to move heat away. It all depends how much room there is under the plastic cover. The only teardown ive seen doesnt make it very clear.
ChrisM75 said:
I see that the layered CPU/memory unit has a metal cover to it, im wondering if a thin thermal pad could be placed between them to conduct heat to the metal cover. Its not much of a heatsink, but it might help a little bit. It may even be possible to put a thin copper sheet on the metal cover to move heat away. It all depends how much room there is under the plastic cover. The only teardown ive seen doesnt make it very clear.
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It could possibly cause other issues with other components due to heat transfer?
ChrisM75 said:
I see that the layered CPU/memory unit has a metal cover to it, im wondering if a thin thermal pad could be placed between them to conduct heat to the metal cover. Its not much of a heatsink, but it might help a little bit. It may even be possible to put a thin copper sheet on the metal cover to move heat away. It all depends how much room there is under the plastic cover. The only teardown ive seen doesnt make it very clear.
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Suggest you to read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730641
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Skizzy034 said:
That's not totally true, every Note 3 and S5 I tried ran hotter than this G3.
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What is the normal CPU temperature ?

With normal tasks such as browser, phone and messaging, the CPU temp of my phone is around 38-40. With tasks as YouTube and graphics intense games it's between 50-55. At this point, the phone feels really hot.
Are these expected temp level or is there some problem with my phone?
With asphalt, the temp averaged around 65C. While downloading the additional content it reached 75C.
I rarely see mine above 45. I've only seen 50 a few times. Throttling kicks in bad above 50
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How can i check the temp of the CPU? Most of the apps don't even show temperature on 6P and CPU Z gives me like 15 different readings ;/
For this I had used CPU Temp. But yeah after the update, it says that it cannot determine the temperature.
In CPU Z, I was unable to understand the readings. One of the app, said that there is no temperature sensor to determine the reading of the phone. So not sure if we can get the accurate temperature.
But the phone is for sure getting too hot. I feel Nexus 6p has heating issue, or atleast mine does.
45-60 shouldn't damage your CPU, but 75+ can be harming for phone's integrated circuit
tarunsoni said:
But the phone is for sure getting too hot. I feel Nexus 6p has heating issue, or atleast mine does.
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Remember that it will go up to 70°C maybe higher and the aluminium case spreads the heat making the whole device hot (LG G3 was very hot only in specific area, because it was plastic).

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