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I've just finished in working on my phone since this morning, and i'm finally completely satisfied: this is my configuration: jpo new firmware, cf root, speedmod 340 mb kernel and oclf for android 2.2. I've also removed touch wiz and installed launcher pro, bought the plus features and beautiful widgets.
It's very smooth, lag free and nice to see. quadrant score is 1796!!
Hope this helps, and sorry for my poor english!!
Alessandro
You just wait a bit, .. within a week or so most sgss will urge to lagg because of the slightly fragmenting underlaying filesystem.. so it feels =/
hehe, no idea, i just fear it .. but let's hope it's all good!
Mines flying too with Docs 7.5 jpo rom, 314mb kernel and autokiller.. i also applied the no rfs e4 lagfix lol
Until now, everithing's just fine.. anyway we'll wait and see!!
i have to agree with pijastomig
i upgraded to jpa and added z4mod (ext2) + 341mb SO kernel
i know its diff but this combo is really good even the combo pijastomig is using is too.
the phone never felt this fast, ever. tho my quadrant score is 1690 the interface is very fast, gallery opens/loads does everything really fast, call log,msgs,pretty much every thing i touch is blazing fast
im just glad i made the jump from eclair, currently very happy with the phones performance... reliable gps is next on the list and i'll be a happy guy for atleast 2011/12 if i dont get the urge to get the next big thing in line
mazroui said:
i have to agree with pijastomig
i upgraded to jpa and added z4mod (ext2) + 341mb SO kernel
i know its diff but this combo is really good even the combo pijastomig is using is too.
the phone never felt this fast, ever. tho my quadrant score is 1690 the interface is very fast, gallery opens/loads does everything really fast, call log,msgs,pretty much every thing i touch is blazing fast
im just glad i made the jump from eclair, currently very happy with the phones performance... reliable gps is next on the list and i'll be a happy guy for atleast 2011/12 if i dont get the urge to get the next big thing in line
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I'm on Doc's ROM as well, using the OCLF downloadable from the market. The phone is quick, responsive, and enjoy to use. The battery is quite bad tho(I think because of hardcore's kernel), but well... I bet you can't have both.
pijastomig said:
I I've also removed touch wiz and installed launcher pro
Alessandro
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Does removing Touch Wiz change anything on the phone? Does it just get rid of the launcher?
I too use Launcher Pro and only use touchwiz to connect to keis. I don't TW but LP is just frickin awesome.
Haven't rooted yet, am waiting for official 2.2 but am contemplating where to go from there when I do.
http://i.imgur.com/heHLS.png
I have OCLF and SuperOneClick root, no custom kernel.
Would putting another kernel on boost my score?
forget about quadrant scores and oclf. to be blunt its plain ignorance. native ext2 or ext4 or jfs if you will are the way to go. oclf will slow down overtime not the others. quadrant value 100% bogus. forget about it. the reason is over the dev forums in countless posts if youre curious. ext4 from hardcore gives me the best perf actually and it doesnt even drain the batt anymore.
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I'm guessing OCLF doesn't actually install an EXT2 kernel then?
Should I flash Voodoo with Odin3 then?
RambJoe said:
I'm guessing OCLF doesn't actually install an EXT2 kernel then?
Should I flash Voodoo with Odin3 then?
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no it doesn't, the stock kernel already supports ext2
oclf creates a ext2 partition on top of rfs instead of native ext2. it works and artificially boost quadrant scores (making scores irrelevant)
over time the underlaying rfs still lags the ext2 file system on top and you have to "reapply" lag fix to get the performance back
native does not need such tricks, it just works (and its faster overall also - just not on quadrant)
So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
avenger213 said:
So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
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I may be wrong but quadrant:
1) Isn't the best way to base performance
2) Doesn't really show improvements that JIT provides
Download linpack if you want and your score should be around a 14 or so, compared to the 8.5-9 on 2.1
Quadrant isn't a real life benchmark, and is highly flawed. Check out Quantum's "warp speed edition" ROM for proof.
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I got 1205 with stock dk28 but I have noticed others reporting lower scores. Variability in testing with a bad benchmark perhaps?
I've got 1839 lol... For some reason I doubt that's accurate
I did a quadrant test with a stock epic 2.1 and an epic on dk28 and the scores were pretty much the same every time. The major difference was that the Froyo epic ran the cpu benchmarks much faster but hung during the first I/O test. The 2.1 epic ran everything about the same speed and completed the whole test much faster than the froyo epic.
I also noticed this and posted in another thread...
to quote myself
I was getting around 8.3xx in 2.1, and now I'm getting 13.7xx in 2.2.
(I used the 1506bdf2e04b.update-SPH-D700_DI18ToDK28.zip renamed to update.zip method.)
Saw a video the other day showing a nexus 1 scoring 20+ on 1st run and 40+ on 2nd.. My friends Evo (with 2.2) scored @ 38 or so..
Quadrant still shows me well under all of the 2.2+ phones listed.
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I expected a bit more of an increase..
I too am wondering if the JIT was left out of our Froyo (if that's even possible, I'm still a total nube to andriod stuff).
What exactly is JIT, does it speed the phone up?
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Just In Time compiling...
From what I know about .Net (I'm a C# coder), it allows for compilation of the app for the specific CPU during the 1st run.
Someone please correct me if this differes from andriod's JIT...
the epic has fast computation hw between the cpu and gpu, it could be the case that the JIT benefit doesn't show in the benchmark margins.
the device is a fast one, all compared.
So I am wondering what others opinions are of the roms and kernels available for the SF. Doesn't seem to be much of an improvement on Quadrant scores utilizing another rom or even stupidfast kernels.
Are we just kind of screwed a bit until 2.2? Is there a kernel that is overclocked?
TIA.
Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary. The phone performs well on 2.1 - keep reading the forum and you'll get there.
In my opinion the biggest performance increases ive seen werent in any benchmarks but in dj05. it runs amazing. If u havent tried it i dont know whether you should or not. With the impending froyo release no one knows if they are actually going to release DJ05 or not. I think they should release it and then put froyo on top of that foundation if at all possible
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What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath
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What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath
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I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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Where did you get the dj05 update?
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Ive only tried voodoo/lagfix
It made a significant difference on my phone. I reverted and restored all the factory stuff in anticipation of JD05 because I want to get it OTA when it drops.
I tried to get the leaked one in IRC but people just kept calling me n00b so I gave up.
I am hopeful that it will solve all my woes and usher in a new era of speed only previously dreamt about
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Where did you get the dj05 update?
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its been discussed dozens of times where and how to get dj05
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I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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@Joe: same setup here (DJ05 deo, Stock Kernel and Rom, Frozen bloat in Titanium) without SetCPU. It's FAST. My GF and both my sons have EVOs running 2.2 and my Fascinate is just as fast (or faster)
@ksizzle: I agree, it's hard to quantify exactly what is so good about it. I think it's not what's there, but what's NOT there (lag) I think there are going to be plenty of happy n00bs when the OTA hits. This phone will be a screamer right out of the box!
NOsquid said:
Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary.
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Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% -- that's not a typo -- faster, which directly impacts most apps.
And, 2.2's browser is also significantly faster than 2.1's -- and iOS4's, for that matter.
I like my Fascinate, and yes, I would consider it fast (especially running DJ05 with Geeknik's kernels) but like many others, I too see slowdowns sometimes that just shouldn't happen with the phone's hardware. Froyo isn't a magic pill, per se, but it should significantly reduce or eliminate those slowdowns (as it did on my old Droid 1, despite it's far-slower processor).
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/and...r-vs-android-15-cupcake-speed-taste-49305763/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/07/android-22-demolishes-ios4-in-javascript-benchmarks.ars
Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% in benchmarks -- that's not a typo -- faster, which do not directly impact most apps.
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Fixed that for ya. Don't let marketing hype get the best of ya.
Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.
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This is because JIT was designed specifically around a Snapdragon processor.
My Desire HD is nearing perfection.
I have flashed Android Revolution HD 5.1.11 without sense and honeycomb theme by he_stheone64. Even without HTC Sense I tried to make my phone even more LEAN by freezing several unwanted and unneeded processes and apps (LEAN is important for me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_manufacturing)).
I flashed the CRT screen off animation and HTC Trace for swiping.
I bought ADW launcher EX and personalized is with several themes and icons.
My avarage benchmark scores with Quadrant are 2149. With smartbench 1784 - 1531.
Now I'm curious about your phone! What is perfection for you?!
I flashed ARHD too and i just love my DHD now! Perfectly smooth ROM. The only annoying thing is that i have battery drain since i flashed latest version. Applied HSPA+ patch and hope it fixes drain.
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I run ARHD 5.1.11 with Sense and also flashed Sense 3.0 all-in-one. Only improvement I would like is a built-in volume improvement. For now I use Volume+ which works fine. I am sure we will be amazed when 5.1.12 appears with the improvements that makes.
I am not seeing any battery drain problems with 5.1.11 and can only think it is down to each individuals customized setup beyond the base ARDH ROM.
Bestevaer said:
My Desire HD is nearing perfection.
I have flashed Android Revolution HD 5.1.11 without sense and honeycomb theme by he_stheone64. Even without HTC Sense I tried to make my phone even more LEAN by freezing several unwanted and unneeded processes and apps (LEAN is important for me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_manufacturing)).
I flashed the CRT screen off animation and HTC Trace for swiping.
I bought ADW launcher EX and personalized is with several themes and icons.
My avarage benchmark scores with Quadrant are 2149. With smartbench 1784 - 1531.
Now I'm curious about your phone! What is perfection for you?!
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get an o2x my dhd been sitting on my side for a few months now
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get an o2x my dhd been sitting on my side for a few months now
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Ok, ok you win.... My DHD is running at 1.22 Ghz, yours probably way above that.
But what matter to me also is my DHD is very smooth and with normal use I can streych it to 3 days. Normal use includes around 3 maybe 4 hours of listening to music each day, update mail several times a day calling and sms/what's app.
hello,
I use CM7 Nigthly 115 + LorDMoD UE 5.0
with Go Home
I use these parameters all time : BRAZILIANWAX governor at 230MHz - 1536MHz
In quadrant standard I obtain 3132
With that I have never bugs or freeze, and the battery take 2 days to be empty
I tested in Performance Mode at 1843-1843 ah have just 2821
Scores do not mean anything, we once made a ROM that could reach 3900 points in quadrant, but was quite laggy in daily use. Do not look at benchmarks, but overall system smoothness. If you like a ROM, then keep it
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jkoljo said:
Scores do not mean anything, we once made a ROM that could reach 3900 points in quadrant, but was quite laggy in daily use. Do not look at benchmarks, but overall system smoothness. If you like a ROM, then keep it
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I fully agree with you. If your ROM is as smooth as a hot through butter then the benchmarks don't matter.
Optimization is the key.
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Before I state my point, I just need to clarify that I have been on various Froyo/Gingerbread ROMs.
Anyway, I have reviewed many Androids before, including the SE Xperia X10 mini, X8, Samsung Galaxy 5, Samsung Galaxy Mini.
What I have come to realize is that my Wildfire is incomparable to ANY of these old models. No matter what I do, install OpenFire fresh/CM7 fresh, overclock, uninstall & wipe stock apps... the phone is NEVER as fast as ANY of the phones mentioned above.
Is there any way to alleviate this, or is it that the 528MHz processor is the weak link in this phone?
Would really love input from fellow forumers. Thanks.
Wildfire has an older CPU architecture and an older non-gpu chipset, both of which are important factors for the performance.
And we cannot do anything other than overclocking to max (which also don't make it fast enough). Wildfire is already outdated.
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Wildfire has an older CPU architecture and an older non-gpu chipset, both of which are important factors for the performance.
And we cannot do anything other than overclocking to max (which also don't make it fast enough). Wildfire is already outdated.
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I do know that. Thanks for the input btw. IMHO when overclocked, all it does is boost performance unnecessarily. I see little to no change in speed, sometimes even smoother when I reduce the clock speed.
I guess this just calls for a new phone soon.
What did i do to make it faster..
Back to android 2.1 stock rom (extracted rom.zip from 2.1 wwe ruu, installed with pc49img.zip)
Root the rom with superoneclick
Fastboot flashed cwm 2.5.0.7 recovery
Flashed nfinity mc4 kernel
Overclocked 480 - 710 mhz @ smartass governor
Its very fast and snappy, try it, i wont be changing roms for a long time, if we dont get ice cream sandwich when its out, ill never change it.
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