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is it just me or.....

...does there seem to be more / advanced development going on for the 3 year old touch vogue with ported android than we have for the hero with native android? i mean they already have a fully working 2.2 port as well. no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.

Why don't you contribute something then?

derekwilkinson said:
Why don't you contribute something then?
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because all he does is complain.

Papa Smurf151 said:
because all he does is complain.
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i asked a question, i wasn't dissing the devs. it just pisses me off that the hero is considered an ancient phone in less than a year and the vogue is 3 years old and has more development.
and before anybody asks...yes i left the evo after a week for 3 reasons.
1.) too slow of development.
2.) you have to disable everything to get half way decent battery life.
3.) the $10 extra is a joke when i have no 4g.

markus_del_marko said:
i asked a question, i wasn't dissing the devs. it just pisses me off that the hero is considered an ancient phone in less than a year and the vogue is 3 years old and has more development.
and before anybody asks...yes i left the evo after a week for 3 reasons.
1.) too slow of development.
2.) you have to disable everything to get half way decent battery life.
3.) the $10 extra is a joke when i have no 4g.
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so lets see...
1.) the evo has been out for what a month or two and from what ive seen there have been huge break throughs
2.) alot of those issues are being worked on and will be fixed. we didnt have oc/uv until just recently. What makes u think everything is gonna be discovered over night
3.) 10 bucks is gay

$10 just isn't worth it.
Swyped from my Sprint Hero via XDA app.

They have more developing going on b/c the vogue is 3 years old and thats a long time . The hero hasn't been out a year yet and look at all the roms , themes , etc. that we have already .
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Every carrier will have some extra charge for "4G". Every carrier is now at some sort of "cap" for their data as well. Everyone wants something new without the extra $10. So you want 4G in your area, but you don't want to help pay to develop it.... typical American thinking, everything must come free.

DirtyShroomz said:
Every carrier will have some extra charge for "4G". Every carrier is now at some sort of "cap" for their data as well. Everyone wants something new without the extra $10. So you want 4G in your area, but you don't want to help pay to develop it.... typical American thinking, everything must come free.
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Hey guys, what's going on in here?

i don't see a problem with the hero development. maybe youre just one of those whiney people who is never happy.
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markus_del_marko said:
...does there seem to be more / advanced development going on for the 3 year old touch vogue with ported android than we have for the hero with native android? i mean they already have a fully working 2.2 port as well. no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.
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I am personally very proud of our developers and take offense to your statement.they have done great things for my hero and we must remember that they are doing it free of charge,I don't quite have the understanding that they do when it comes to development so without them I would be lost,thanks to everyone that supports our device

markus_del_marko said:
no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.
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Really, who has left? By my accounts, other the Damageless, all other devs and modders, for the most part, are still here doing work, at least to some degree.

It's not easy wat these people are doing so yea it is just you
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Really, who has left? By my accounts, other the Damageless, all other devs and modders, for the most part, are still here doing work, at least to some degree.
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He complains about everything dude. He has never produced a mod/theme/rom/fix/ or anything for that matter other than threads asking for ports from other phones or threads complaining. Kinda reminds me of another user that hasn't posted in forever. Damageless and treve r the only two who have left. Even fresh and konikub have updated their Rome even though they r working on the evo also. BTW jschisurf=mod God. Not kissing ur ass bro just making a true statement

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Hey guys, what's going on in here?
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How do you figure? It's the only one of it's kind, you really thought it was going to be the same price as everything else out there?

Papa Smurf151 said:
He complains about everything dude. He has never produced a mod/theme/rom/fix/ or anything for that matter other than threads asking for ports from other phones or threads complaining. Kinda reminds me of another user that hasn't posted in forever. Damageless and treve r the only two who have left. Even fresh and konikub have updated their Rome even though they r working on the evo also. BTW jschisurf=mod God. Not kissing ur ass bro just making a true statement
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Ha, thanks man. You do nice work yourself IMHO, there's still a pretty solid core around here.

So can someone enlighten me on what hasn't been done yet???
I mean as far as I know, devs didn't have to rewrite drivers from scratch (With the exception of the touch drivers)
I just have a hard time figuring out what they are doing that we haven't already done...i am sure if you would say "Hey vogue guys have this - and it would be cool to have" someone would look at it...but no one here has the need to run Ubuntu or windows mobile ports so what are you complaining about???

I wouldn't mind running another Linux port when I'm through with my hero. It would be nice to be able to run backtrack but alas that is only a dream. Aside from that anything that I'd ever want or need has been so graciously provided for by the amazing devs and if it hasn't there is probably a guide or tut out there for how to do it on my own Cheers to the awesomeness that is xda!

DirtyShroomz said:
How do you figure? It's the only one of it's kind, you really thought it was going to be the same price as everything else out there?
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That was more directed at the "Everything must come free"
If it was free, anyone who wanted it could have it. Sounds like Communism to me.

lol Im very proud of the work that our devs have done..and thank them any chance i get..for without them what would we have? I may not like some of the extra stuff on some roms.. but at least they give a damn to put something out for those who do!!Its all bout choices..which in my eyes we have plenty for our hero.. like sense..well go try out one of many roms based off it.. like stock android..go get darchdroid...<----my fav by the way...

Rage Against the Carrier and Samsung Machine

Hey Guys,
Just wanted to share a pretty heated thread over on the Captivate Forum.
Please post your comments and show your support!
We need to band together and stick it to the man!!!
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958214
Thanks in advance

I really hope you get what your looking for, but I am not sure what that is exactly... I must decline though.. I have a life, and have already wasted about 20 seconds of it typing this.
Thanks for thinking of us though.
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Hey Guys,
Just wanted to share a pretty heated thread over on the Captivate Forum.
Please post your comments and show your support!
We need to band together and stick it to the man!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=704
Thanks in advance
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What's the thread you want us to see...?
You just posted the link to the Captivate's General Section, not any thread.

He probably means the "Communicate with Samsung" thread over there. There's a lot of Samsung hate flying around in there.
I hope Samsung really is trying to move in the right direction. Only time will tell how it pans out, though. The best thing we can all do is use the communicate with samsung page to ask as many good serious non-trolling questions as possible to try to impress upon Samsung what we think is important.

Yeah sorry about the wrong link. edited OP

We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
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It's not about froyo... It's about the bs PR stunt they are pulling and the possible loss of XDA credibility!
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jcabibi said:
It's not about froyo... It's about the bs PR stunt they are pulling and the possible loss of XDA credibility!
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Oh, well thats just stupid then. You need to wait and see what SamsungJohn brings with "phase 2" and beyond. Then pass judgement. I dont like how he went about what he is doing and I have voiced that fairly well, but to call it a bs PR stunt is probably premature. And what credibility is XDA going to lose even if this is a PR stunt? Developers are going to stop using XDA because they got hoodwinked? Not likely.

muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
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I've been curious about the timing of all this. Is Sprint trying to save face because they've been the hold up? Or is Samsung trying to steal Sprint's thunder on xda? Or is it simply a coincidence?

DiGi760 said:
I've been curious about the timing of all this. Is Sprint trying to save face because they've been the hold up? Or is Samsung trying to steal Sprint's thunder on xda? Or is it simply a coincidence?
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Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.

But they do feel the pressure... XDArs may only be 2% of consumers, but we are the ones that family and friends come to for advice. Our voice carries a lot further than one would think!
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muyoso said:
Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.
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Lets not forget, t-mo users at xda forced their froyo update with threat of class action lawsuit...
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muyoso said:
Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.
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You're right. I just told my wife she might get an update next week called FroYo and she said what's that I'm not gonna lose my contacts am I. LOL
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muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
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Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now

ungovernable1977 said:
Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now
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I doubt very highly that they'd offer us free anything, except maybe a kick in the behind. Also, discounts on sgs2 just doesn't seem very likely either. I'm just hoping for transparency regarding source code and MAYBE drivers, but not holding my breath.
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muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
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Don't hold your breath! The Captivate crowd had Froyo released today only to have it pulled about an hour later.
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ungovernable1977 said:
Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now
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I like you. You think EXACTLY like I do!!!

aleph23 said:
Lets not forget, t-mo users at xda forced their froyo update with threat of class action lawsuit...
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I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. Just taking a logical guess, I'd wager the more likely scenario is that T-Mo's GS phone had less proprietary carrier 'issues' such as TouchWiz on our side to have to work the kinks out & 'play nice' with. I'm relatively newer with Sprint from that angle, but in my AT&T history I know all too well how they like to cater things to how they want them and/or limit them.

Closed thread encouraging flaming and a duplicate of many other threads.

4G in ROM's is a deal breaker for me...

So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...
Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.
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There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.
/MINDLESS RANT

I love 4g too but Myns warm z is too good not to use! I use 4g for slingbox and playon... We'll see how long I can last without it

why don't you just develop your own roms then?
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thier are a few roms that 4g. like sprintlovers rom.

Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?
Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.
Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.

Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.

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Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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thank you based god

an explanation
4g and hdmi are built into sense 1.0. So if a rom is sense based it has 4g working. If its asop (cm, miui not really asop but kinda ) or sense 2.0 like warm z then those things dont work. BUT as was stated team win developed a way to use 4g on cm roms. Theoretically this could spread to other roms such as how using the camera spread from cm to miui ect.... who knows soon because of the hard work of these devs all roms will have 4g. So just enjoy and stop complaining about things you get for free.

lol i read it the same way, i thought he was just pulling humor from the people saying they won't use a custom rom due to no 4g.
You will find in due time that as of right now, 4g is just a meh unless you really do use it. I lived in 2 cities that have 4g, Orlando and Raleigh and when I got my phone, i was just like you. omgggggg 4g or i won't use!!!11
But in all seriousness, there hasnt been many occasions where i actually needed it. Sometimes when I wanted to view or show a youtube video in high quality and I wasnt in a wifi area... and that's all I can really think of. But like mentioned above, if you want to keep 4g on, your battery will suffer. So regardless, if i'm paying for it or not, i'm not really using it at all. It's like 5% of my usage.

Phillysphinest1 said:
So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...
Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.
There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.
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You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?
Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
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Am in Chicago...haven't chosen a 4G Rom in a while.
4G's a crock for me. Its only significantly faster with a very strong signal (which is less than half the time). And its a bigger crock indoors. So plain not worth it.
(I don't go speedtest apps btw (4G always looks good there)...I use some standard sites and measure the time it takes to download..
4G sucks.

I should say SPRINT 4G sucks. T-Mobile speeds much closer to 4G capability.
Will be breaking contract to take up Galaxy SII or LG this spring.

Since you're feeling quick to judge and critique... I'd like to remind you that 3G data connectivity and WiFi are BUILT INTO ANDROID.
4G on the other hand, has to be completely built by scratch by the ROM developer.
I don't deny the value of including 4G in a ROM, but please know that a developer might spend hundreds of hours trying to get it working / writing it from scratch.

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thank you based god
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Lmmfao.... spoken like a tru NT'er
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This post has nuting but fail in it...noones paying developers to do what they do...You developers rock and don't have to do anything with their roms just cuz you want them too.../end rant lol
p.s. CM is asop and just reverse engineered wimax that by itself is a a epic achievement and they do these kinds of things cuz they want to../end 2nd rant lol

I too want try out Warm Z but Im gonna wait until it has 4g. Kings Ultra is just fine right now, been rocking it since monday.

wingzfan said:
Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?
Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.
Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.
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Obviously your NOT very good at reading. If you were you'd see that i clearly said this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant. And i also gave praise to guys that dedicate their time to develop these thing. Sorry dude...your post was unneeded. Read carefully next time.
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Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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^^Thanks, i'll do that^^
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You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?
Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
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Again a NON-reader. I clearly stated that i understand building 4g from scratch wasnt a 2 second process. I also CLEARLY stated that i give props to all the guys that spend their time doing this. I even wish i had the time to do it on my own!!!
You guys PREACH reading but cant read a simple post or even distinguish a simple complaint from a rant to save your lives. Its all good tho!! Love you ****ers & this board!!!!

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this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant.
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Um, what's the difference between a complaint and a rant? If there is a difference at all, isn't a rant worse than a complaint?

There are TONS of ROMs with 4g to choose from. Also, just b/c you say something isn't a complaint, doesn't mean you can just say anything after that and it won't be perceived as one.
Kinda like:
"with all due respect, Mr Dennit ... I had no idea you had gotten experimental surgery to have your balls removed"

HTC EVO Roms

There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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bjgebg said:
There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off
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I haven't seen that happen.
only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame ..
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That's your opinion. There is a reason we have dozens of roms for the evo, cause people like them. I flash a new rom every week or so. I have yet to find one that is "pretty lame".

If you aren't happy, make your own! Don't ***** at the devs that build the roms on their free time and let you run em for FREE. Hence the word free. Be appreciative for something once in your life!
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bjgebg said:
There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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I guarantee theres no other place other than XDA that you will find android developers better than the ones here,these guys dont have to share their expertise with you or anyone else for that matter,these guys work hard to give this community the best.As the guy above said,if your not happy with the development here,then develope a rom yourself.As for the best rom,there is'nt one they all run great,but are different styles,none are the same.As for giving up on a rom in mid development,its probably because this is'nt paying their bills and they have families to deal with,again they do this on their free time,to give back to the community.You should show appreciation to all developers.

I smell a Troll in the air...
Sent from my Tricked-out-Evo....

There are plenty of devs and plenty of ROMs. Not everyone does this for a living, people do have lives and are busy or move on to different phones.
We have a great development section. The Evo 3D section, up until recently, was just the same Sense themed differently with a couple differences. We have plenty of things to choose from.
If you don't like things, change things and make your own ROM.
ANNOUNCEMENT: I should be starting a Photon 4G port soon. If anyone has any words of wisdom or advice and guidance, PM me.

I feel quite the opposite as OP. I am so thankful for this community that gives me so much for pretty much nothing in return but a meager "thanks! "
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I kinda see where hes coming from. Some roms do get put in a stand still.. Its great there are lots of devs out there, but i do find myself flashing more because most the roms I'm using are in beta modes. Its funny I turned my phone into sprint today, and was surprised how stock non rooted did. Everything was snappy, but all those dam apps and the horrible battery life, makes me glad devs do make roms for us. So don't read into that too much guys and don't take everything defensive.

Lame??? unreal.....
There are so many good ROMS it's like being a kid in a candy store, not knowing which way to turn first.

Ye and there outdated
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HipKat said:
Lame??? unreal.....
There are so many good ROMS it's like being a kid in a candy store, not knowing which way to turn first.
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Agreed, I'm very grateful for all the devs do for us FOR FREE. I don't understand people who complain about free things. Like others have said, if you don't like what you see, learn to make a ROM yourself!

johntheman said:
Agreed, I'm very grateful for all the devs do for us FOR FREE. I don't understand people who complain about free things. Like others have said, if you don't like what you see, learn to make a ROM yourself!
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Won't be free if something breaks on your phone from rooting a rom that wasn't tested fully enough..

thlinx said:
Won't be free if something breaks on your phone from rooting a rom that wasn't tested fully enough..
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Name the ROM that broke your phone.

bigmoogle said:
Name the ROM that broke your phone.
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sure thing.. Was an old virus rom, which speaker was too loud and blew my ear piece speaker.. Cost me 35 dollars

thlinx said:
sure thing.. Was an old virus rom, which speaker was too loud and blew my ear piece speaker.. Cost me 35 dollars
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That just sounds like you had a bad equalizer setting and if it was of course overpowered, the speaker will blow. And the roms are clearly labeled, alpha, beta, stable, ect, clearly listing what works / what doesn't. You flash and root at your own risk, so don't cry about when something happens because of something you did, to your phone, under your own influence.

I was running this sweet custom ROM once...
I was talking on the phone and driving my car and some guy ran a red light and hit me.
Darn developers!
~ I'm a fungi

teh roxxorz said:
That just sounds like you had a bad equalizer setting and if it was of course overpowered, the speaker will blow. And the roms are clearly labeled, alpha, beta, stable, ect, clearly listing what works / what doesn't. You flash and root at your own risk, so don't cry about when something happens because of something you did, to your phone, under your own influence.
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Gee really??? I installed the STOCK ROM did no modifications. He asked if a rom broke my phone and it did. I know they are at my own risks.. I didn't complain to virus I learned my lesson so wtf you on about besides trolling?

thlinx said:
Gee really??? I installed the STOCK ROM did no modifications. He asked if a rom broke my phone and it did. I know they are at my own risks.. I didn't complain to virus I learned my lesson so wtf you on about besides trolling?
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The stock rom can have modifications, even if you didn't make them yourself. And again, yes, a custom rom broke your phone, you may not have complained to virus about it, but you're still complaining about it now. And I'm far from trolling you, I raised a logical, correct point.

thlinx said:
Ye and there outdated
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
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And there hasn't been 50 new phones released since the EVO!? So when they fixxed the speaker they told you your rooted stock rom broke it? Also for you to get pissy when someone points out something valid is just stupid.
My knocked up EVO

BUSTED - BUSTED! Secret app on millions of phones logs key taps.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/smartphone_spying_app/
How safe does your x10 look?

Its been mentioned in the q&a section about ciq.....
Seems its not on custom x10 roms...there is an app to check and from what i have read at least wolfs rom is clean...

gregbradley said:
Its been mentioned in the q&a section about ciq.....
Seems its not on custom x10 roms...there is an app to check and from what i have read at least wolfs rom is clean...
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I didn't know about this just found it now sorry..
I'm actually outraged.

yep, and imagine how many end users dont root their phones and such..
its kinda sickening you need to be rooted just to even get rid of bloatware.
Android seems to be a breeding ground for this type of thing

scoobysnacks said:
yep, and imagine how many end users dont root their phones and such..
its kinda sickening you need to be rooted just to even get rid of bloatware.
Android seems to be a breeding ground for this type of thing
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I would not be shocked if a developer would find the same crap out of a i-phone.
The fact that it's even there.. is a shock.. why is it there.. who distributed it.. who approves such a thing..
Seriously handset developers sold the phones already all containing it...
I smell mordor farts..
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OmegaRED^ said:
I didn't know about this just found it now sorry..
I'm actually outraged.
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NP
The threads in the q&a only appeared today I think, thats when i saw them...
Its a bit like what apple did...very underhand..i was glad i didnt go with the "i" brand when i heard they did it, but now to see google allowing it...i thought they were better than that..

Well that sucks
Sent from my X10a using xda premium

scoobysnacks said:
yep, and imagine how many end users dont root their phones and such..
its kinda sickening you need to be rooted just to even get rid of bloatware.
Android seems to be a breeding ground for this type of thing
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Apparently iOS has traces of it too

FYI.
yes you can remove The Carrier IQ Rootkit. use this .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=110
Using wolfbreaks rom and it doesnt have it anyway
Hit thanks if relevant to you.

mootmaina said:
FYI.
yes you can remove The Carrier IQ Rootkit. use this .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=110
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FYI is not legal.
Removable or not.
It's invasion of privacy... 100% illegal.

Agree dude. Was just saying you can remove it.
Sent from killerx...10

mootmaina said:
Agree dude. Was just saying you can remove it.
Sent from killerx...10
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Lol.. the SGS2 i had gotten from the US has it. "Verizon branded"

mootmaina said:
Using wolfbreaks rom and it doesnt have it anyway
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If stock SE had it, all stock-based ROMs including WB would have it.
Since stock doesn't have it, WB ROM doesn't have it.

iridaki said:
If stock SE had it, all stock-based ROMs including WB would have it.
Since stock doesn't have it, WB ROM doesn't have it.
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Only devices in the US apparently.
I could be wrong.
But that means...
Out of 20 of my friends... only I and one other friend have rooted.
So now that the JIG is up will phone manufacturers remove the trojan?

I've stock SE, run Logging checker by Treve and on CIQ checks it says "Check complete" and no aps is listed, so I think stock SE hasn't CIQ
Or am I wrong?

Ha, I'm not a president, not a minister or else so I don't care what they are going to do with what I type lol

silveraero said:
Ha, I'm not a president, not a minister or else so I don't care what they are going to do with what I type lol
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What i type might not be that important on the grand scheme of things but I dont want any shifty empolyee of any corportion getting hold of my bank account details....
just the password to my router is bad enough, cos then they can get onto my home pc and litterally become me and bankrupt me..

OmegaRED^ said:
Only devices in the US apparently.
I could be wrong.
But that means...
Out of 20 of my friends... only I and one other friend have rooted.
So now that the JIG is up will phone manufacturers remove the trojan?
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CIQ is bundled in kernel, firmware contains only parts of it apparently.
Also here you can read the official statement from the company itself.
My personal opinion, according to everything I've experienced so far in real life,
the truth is always somewhere in the middle.
I am not a big fan of "hyper-hypes", if you will.
I certainly think that legally it is not right to collect any personal data without user's acknowledgement but, if you ask me, CIQ is hardly the Rootkit Of All Evil.
And don't jump into the conclusion that I do not have respect for personal privacy, because I really, really do.
To me, however, posting photos on Facebook and having Facebook recognise faces and suggest which friends to tag
(which means that they don't just collect numbers and statisticks, they get to know our FACE, the thing that singles out the most as individuals.)
is much, much more horrifying and orwellian than HTC or any other mobile company knowing when my device crashed, a call dropped or what launcher do I use.
I've looked through the CIQ reports and findings by TrevE and while I fully recognise the achievement, the effort and the skills of said developer,
I fail to see the "evil" part in the extend that it's been presented lately.
It certainly looks bad, but I just can't bring myself to panic over it.
Also now there's a paid app that will supposedly remove logging from some devices. I am not sure I like that.
Someone will make money out of this and maybe, just maybe, has motive to want to keep users in panic, fear and uncontrollable rage over this.
Of course, I could be totally wrong, but still, it's something to think about.
And last but not least, panic and sciolism has never ever been a good advisor nor they will be. EVER.

Sassi knows best
http://youtu.be/xwpMfVqq3cs

To me the point is you are paying exorbitant prices for cell phones only to have companies planting spyware and selling your private info to make even more money than you initially paid for the phone..
I'm shocked that I read a lot of people that are alright with this.
Does no one see what this kind of breach of our personal freedom leads to?