There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off
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I haven't seen that happen.
only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame ..
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That's your opinion. There is a reason we have dozens of roms for the evo, cause people like them. I flash a new rom every week or so. I have yet to find one that is "pretty lame".
If you aren't happy, make your own! Don't ***** at the devs that build the roms on their free time and let you run em for FREE. Hence the word free. Be appreciative for something once in your life!
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bjgebg said:
There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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I guarantee theres no other place other than XDA that you will find android developers better than the ones here,these guys dont have to share their expertise with you or anyone else for that matter,these guys work hard to give this community the best.As the guy above said,if your not happy with the development here,then develope a rom yourself.As for the best rom,there is'nt one they all run great,but are different styles,none are the same.As for giving up on a rom in mid development,its probably because this is'nt paying their bills and they have families to deal with,again they do this on their free time,to give back to the community.You should show appreciation to all developers.
I smell a Troll in the air...
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There are plenty of devs and plenty of ROMs. Not everyone does this for a living, people do have lives and are busy or move on to different phones.
We have a great development section. The Evo 3D section, up until recently, was just the same Sense themed differently with a couple differences. We have plenty of things to choose from.
If you don't like things, change things and make your own ROM.
ANNOUNCEMENT: I should be starting a Photon 4G port soon. If anyone has any words of wisdom or advice and guidance, PM me.
I feel quite the opposite as OP. I am so thankful for this community that gives me so much for pretty much nothing in return but a meager "thanks! "
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I kinda see where hes coming from. Some roms do get put in a stand still.. Its great there are lots of devs out there, but i do find myself flashing more because most the roms I'm using are in beta modes. Its funny I turned my phone into sprint today, and was surprised how stock non rooted did. Everything was snappy, but all those dam apps and the horrible battery life, makes me glad devs do make roms for us. So don't read into that too much guys and don't take everything defensive.
Lame??? unreal.....
There are so many good ROMS it's like being a kid in a candy store, not knowing which way to turn first.
Ye and there outdated
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Lame??? unreal.....
There are so many good ROMS it's like being a kid in a candy store, not knowing which way to turn first.
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Agreed, I'm very grateful for all the devs do for us FOR FREE. I don't understand people who complain about free things. Like others have said, if you don't like what you see, learn to make a ROM yourself!
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Agreed, I'm very grateful for all the devs do for us FOR FREE. I don't understand people who complain about free things. Like others have said, if you don't like what you see, learn to make a ROM yourself!
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Won't be free if something breaks on your phone from rooting a rom that wasn't tested fully enough..
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Won't be free if something breaks on your phone from rooting a rom that wasn't tested fully enough..
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Name the ROM that broke your phone.
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Name the ROM that broke your phone.
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sure thing.. Was an old virus rom, which speaker was too loud and blew my ear piece speaker.. Cost me 35 dollars
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sure thing.. Was an old virus rom, which speaker was too loud and blew my ear piece speaker.. Cost me 35 dollars
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That just sounds like you had a bad equalizer setting and if it was of course overpowered, the speaker will blow. And the roms are clearly labeled, alpha, beta, stable, ect, clearly listing what works / what doesn't. You flash and root at your own risk, so don't cry about when something happens because of something you did, to your phone, under your own influence.
I was running this sweet custom ROM once...
I was talking on the phone and driving my car and some guy ran a red light and hit me.
Darn developers!
~ I'm a fungi
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That just sounds like you had a bad equalizer setting and if it was of course overpowered, the speaker will blow. And the roms are clearly labeled, alpha, beta, stable, ect, clearly listing what works / what doesn't. You flash and root at your own risk, so don't cry about when something happens because of something you did, to your phone, under your own influence.
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Gee really??? I installed the STOCK ROM did no modifications. He asked if a rom broke my phone and it did. I know they are at my own risks.. I didn't complain to virus I learned my lesson so wtf you on about besides trolling?
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Gee really??? I installed the STOCK ROM did no modifications. He asked if a rom broke my phone and it did. I know they are at my own risks.. I didn't complain to virus I learned my lesson so wtf you on about besides trolling?
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The stock rom can have modifications, even if you didn't make them yourself. And again, yes, a custom rom broke your phone, you may not have complained to virus about it, but you're still complaining about it now. And I'm far from trolling you, I raised a logical, correct point.
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Ye and there outdated
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And there hasn't been 50 new phones released since the EVO!? So when they fixxed the speaker they told you your rooted stock rom broke it? Also for you to get pissy when someone points out something valid is just stupid.
My knocked up EVO
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...does there seem to be more / advanced development going on for the 3 year old touch vogue with ported android than we have for the hero with native android? i mean they already have a fully working 2.2 port as well. no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.
Why don't you contribute something then?
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Why don't you contribute something then?
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because all he does is complain.
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because all he does is complain.
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i asked a question, i wasn't dissing the devs. it just pisses me off that the hero is considered an ancient phone in less than a year and the vogue is 3 years old and has more development.
and before anybody asks...yes i left the evo after a week for 3 reasons.
1.) too slow of development.
2.) you have to disable everything to get half way decent battery life.
3.) the $10 extra is a joke when i have no 4g.
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i asked a question, i wasn't dissing the devs. it just pisses me off that the hero is considered an ancient phone in less than a year and the vogue is 3 years old and has more development.
and before anybody asks...yes i left the evo after a week for 3 reasons.
1.) too slow of development.
2.) you have to disable everything to get half way decent battery life.
3.) the $10 extra is a joke when i have no 4g.
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so lets see...
1.) the evo has been out for what a month or two and from what ive seen there have been huge break throughs
2.) alot of those issues are being worked on and will be fixed. we didnt have oc/uv until just recently. What makes u think everything is gonna be discovered over night
3.) 10 bucks is gay
$10 just isn't worth it.
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They have more developing going on b/c the vogue is 3 years old and thats a long time . The hero hasn't been out a year yet and look at all the roms , themes , etc. that we have already .
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Every carrier will have some extra charge for "4G". Every carrier is now at some sort of "cap" for their data as well. Everyone wants something new without the extra $10. So you want 4G in your area, but you don't want to help pay to develop it.... typical American thinking, everything must come free.
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Every carrier will have some extra charge for "4G". Every carrier is now at some sort of "cap" for their data as well. Everyone wants something new without the extra $10. So you want 4G in your area, but you don't want to help pay to develop it.... typical American thinking, everything must come free.
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Hey guys, what's going on in here?
i don't see a problem with the hero development. maybe youre just one of those whiney people who is never happy.
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...does there seem to be more / advanced development going on for the 3 year old touch vogue with ported android than we have for the hero with native android? i mean they already have a fully working 2.2 port as well. no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.
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I am personally very proud of our developers and take offense to your statement.they have done great things for my hero and we must remember that they are doing it free of charge,I don't quite have the understanding that they do when it comes to development so without them I would be lost,thanks to everyone that supports our device
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no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.
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Really, who has left? By my accounts, other the Damageless, all other devs and modders, for the most part, are still here doing work, at least to some degree.
It's not easy wat these people are doing so yea it is just you
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Really, who has left? By my accounts, other the Damageless, all other devs and modders, for the most part, are still here doing work, at least to some degree.
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He complains about everything dude. He has never produced a mod/theme/rom/fix/ or anything for that matter other than threads asking for ports from other phones or threads complaining. Kinda reminds me of another user that hasn't posted in forever. Damageless and treve r the only two who have left. Even fresh and konikub have updated their Rome even though they r working on the evo also. BTW jschisurf=mod God. Not kissing ur ass bro just making a true statement
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Hey guys, what's going on in here?
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How do you figure? It's the only one of it's kind, you really thought it was going to be the same price as everything else out there?
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He complains about everything dude. He has never produced a mod/theme/rom/fix/ or anything for that matter other than threads asking for ports from other phones or threads complaining. Kinda reminds me of another user that hasn't posted in forever. Damageless and treve r the only two who have left. Even fresh and konikub have updated their Rome even though they r working on the evo also. BTW jschisurf=mod God. Not kissing ur ass bro just making a true statement
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Ha, thanks man. You do nice work yourself IMHO, there's still a pretty solid core around here.
So can someone enlighten me on what hasn't been done yet???
I mean as far as I know, devs didn't have to rewrite drivers from scratch (With the exception of the touch drivers)
I just have a hard time figuring out what they are doing that we haven't already done...i am sure if you would say "Hey vogue guys have this - and it would be cool to have" someone would look at it...but no one here has the need to run Ubuntu or windows mobile ports so what are you complaining about???
I wouldn't mind running another Linux port when I'm through with my hero. It would be nice to be able to run backtrack but alas that is only a dream. Aside from that anything that I'd ever want or need has been so graciously provided for by the amazing devs and if it hasn't there is probably a guide or tut out there for how to do it on my own Cheers to the awesomeness that is xda!
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That was more directed at the "Everything must come free"
If it was free, anyone who wanted it could have it. Sounds like Communism to me.
lol Im very proud of the work that our devs have done..and thank them any chance i get..for without them what would we have? I may not like some of the extra stuff on some roms.. but at least they give a damn to put something out for those who do!!Its all bout choices..which in my eyes we have plenty for our hero.. like sense..well go try out one of many roms based off it.. like stock android..go get darchdroid...<----my fav by the way...
We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
Maybe we need to pony up the cash and buy a dev an epic.
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Quit your yappin. Its not dead, devs are just waiting for a better working Froyo leak.
Android Central: We know everyone out there is waiting on Froyo for their Fascinates, Epics, Captivates, and Vibrants. Samsung has given the carriers their code, and the carriers are testing. We are waiting on them now.
Are you serous? There are devs still here, and they are busy. The only true dev? were you using andromeda before froyo came out? Why don't you be patient until the official froyo is out, the work is coming! Its hard to develop a rom without thee source code and no one is putting their time into 2.1 this late?
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It's not that the dev community is dead. It's more like the calm before the storm. the anticipated official release of froyo is what everyone preparing for. Some are busy cooking roms for the leaked releases while some are digging into other similar official releases to hopefully get a jump start for the epic release.
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We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
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Why are you even posting this here? This should be in General!! You posting this here alone tells me you dont know what the heck your talking about!!! The only "true" Dev? What the hell are you talking about? Theres plenty of awesume Dev's here!! A lot more than you think!
I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
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I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
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Yeah people dint apriciate his work enough,sht I would leave too if people were saying that im withholding roms,so what if i am witholding roms?arent they mine to begin with?and sharing them on xda is a privilege.
Ok I may be wrong about "the only true dev thing"...I just want to understand why our community is isolated from each other...just take a quick peak at the facinate thread,a phone that came out almost a month after the epic...the development area its going smothly there. Even our own carrier has left us on the backdoor...how many updates had we have ...2....compare to 8 0r 7 on the EVO.
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I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
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One-Click Root: A script. Very simple. The hack on the adb daemon (rageagainstthecage) that it uses works on every > 2.1 Android phone and was done by a brilliant dev at c-skills.blogspot.com I believe.
Andromeda: Another kernel. Mine wasn't based of his at all. Devins is based off mine, and possibly a few of noobs tweaks haven't checked. Hero's wasn't based on it. Not sure about fluffkernel or any of the others.
Clockwork: Point for you. He did get the ramdisk working with it, but koush did most of the work on the final version.
Cyanogenmod: WesGarner's work for the Vibrant, but with an Epic kernel & ramdisk.
Not saying he didn't do anything, but I AM saying that people blow everything out of proportion without realizing how simple some of it is, either from ignorance or just misunderstanding.
It's the holidays. Cut them some slack.
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We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
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There are lots of great developers/modders on the EPIC forum including noobl. Right now, without the final release of FROYO and without FROYO sources, everyone is on a standby.
For the 2.1 ROMS, EPIC Exp and Syndicate are both great 2.1 ROMS. There are several great 2.1 kernals as well. With so many great 2.1 options, not much more that can be tweaked that is truly interesting.
If you're interested in playing with beta 2.2 roms, there are few great options there as well. In fact, within 24 hours of the DK18 leak, there were three ROMS to choose from. Not bad.
Regardless, you'll see this forum pick up pretty quick after the final release of 2.2 and 2.2 sources.
Of course by the time 2.2 comes out for EPIC, google will release gingerbread and everyone will be asking when gingerbread will be coming out for EPIC. Not going to hold my breath for that one.
I came from the hero and that dev community was amazing. The debs here are great but it definitely isn't as exciting as I feel the hero rout experience was. I recall thread suggestions and devs quickly entering with an affirmative answer or why it wasnt possible. I made a simple request about the vanilla lock screen and never heard anything. I do love what the devs have done though.
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While this community is great it seems deadcompared to the evo community but I blame samsung for this and them taking there sweet ass time pushing out 2.2...if its not out by december 5th I'm selling my epic for good and will stick with my evo
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if its not out by december 5th I'm selling my epic for good and will stick with my evo
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Might as well get a head start now. Not trying to spread doom and gloom, but that date will sadly come and go before we see Froyo.
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Might as well get a head start now. Not trying to spread doom and gloom, but that date will sadly come and go before we see Froyo.
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Please tell us the reason for that is Samsung is actually trying to fix all the issues..and not them implementing say bloat ware or being slackers,,right?
Selling your EPICs or switch them back for the EVO won't help minimize the problem that we have here....we need to think of a way to get the drama out of this forums ....to keep it clean of negativate things, come on pleople...this isn't the place to start whining cus your girlfriend dumped you or cuz you personal issues with yourself....we all have different reason to be here....beta testing, developing, to improve our phones or even to mess with it up to point we either break our phone or make them better than anybody else's
A lot of what you guys are seeing is vert similar to the moment community. When I had my moment things always got dramatic. I think it was mainly out of frustration towards sprint. You see it even now there are rumors that froyo is being pushed back but sprint won't say a damn word either way and in the end they will conduct themselves in a way that will make epic owners feel slighted their pr dept must suck. I say e ask ban together and make this pioneer great because like with rhett moment spring isn't going to make out great our dev's are going too. And fyi i don't think noob will ever be gone he just went underground. He's working behind the scenes he loves deving too much
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We have lost our only true developer...
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So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...
Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.
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There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.
/MINDLESS RANT
I love 4g too but Myns warm z is too good not to use! I use 4g for slingbox and playon... We'll see how long I can last without it
why don't you just develop your own roms then?
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thier are a few roms that 4g. like sprintlovers rom.
Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?
Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.
Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.
Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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thank you based god
an explanation
4g and hdmi are built into sense 1.0. So if a rom is sense based it has 4g working. If its asop (cm, miui not really asop but kinda ) or sense 2.0 like warm z then those things dont work. BUT as was stated team win developed a way to use 4g on cm roms. Theoretically this could spread to other roms such as how using the camera spread from cm to miui ect.... who knows soon because of the hard work of these devs all roms will have 4g. So just enjoy and stop complaining about things you get for free.
lol i read it the same way, i thought he was just pulling humor from the people saying they won't use a custom rom due to no 4g.
You will find in due time that as of right now, 4g is just a meh unless you really do use it. I lived in 2 cities that have 4g, Orlando and Raleigh and when I got my phone, i was just like you. omgggggg 4g or i won't use!!!11
But in all seriousness, there hasnt been many occasions where i actually needed it. Sometimes when I wanted to view or show a youtube video in high quality and I wasnt in a wifi area... and that's all I can really think of. But like mentioned above, if you want to keep 4g on, your battery will suffer. So regardless, if i'm paying for it or not, i'm not really using it at all. It's like 5% of my usage.
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So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...
Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.
There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.
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You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?
Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
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Am in Chicago...haven't chosen a 4G Rom in a while.
4G's a crock for me. Its only significantly faster with a very strong signal (which is less than half the time). And its a bigger crock indoors. So plain not worth it.
(I don't go speedtest apps btw (4G always looks good there)...I use some standard sites and measure the time it takes to download..
4G sucks.
I should say SPRINT 4G sucks. T-Mobile speeds much closer to 4G capability.
Will be breaking contract to take up Galaxy SII or LG this spring.
Since you're feeling quick to judge and critique... I'd like to remind you that 3G data connectivity and WiFi are BUILT INTO ANDROID.
4G on the other hand, has to be completely built by scratch by the ROM developer.
I don't deny the value of including 4G in a ROM, but please know that a developer might spend hundreds of hours trying to get it working / writing it from scratch.
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thank you based god
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Lmmfao.... spoken like a tru NT'er
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This post has nuting but fail in it...noones paying developers to do what they do...You developers rock and don't have to do anything with their roms just cuz you want them too.../end rant lol
p.s. CM is asop and just reverse engineered wimax that by itself is a a epic achievement and they do these kinds of things cuz they want to../end 2nd rant lol
I too want try out Warm Z but Im gonna wait until it has 4g. Kings Ultra is just fine right now, been rocking it since monday.
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Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?
Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.
Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.
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Obviously your NOT very good at reading. If you were you'd see that i clearly said this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant. And i also gave praise to guys that dedicate their time to develop these thing. Sorry dude...your post was unneeded. Read carefully next time.
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Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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^^Thanks, i'll do that^^
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You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?
Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
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Again a NON-reader. I clearly stated that i understand building 4g from scratch wasnt a 2 second process. I also CLEARLY stated that i give props to all the guys that spend their time doing this. I even wish i had the time to do it on my own!!!
You guys PREACH reading but cant read a simple post or even distinguish a simple complaint from a rant to save your lives. Its all good tho!! Love you ****ers & this board!!!!
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this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant.
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Um, what's the difference between a complaint and a rant? If there is a difference at all, isn't a rant worse than a complaint?
There are TONS of ROMs with 4g to choose from. Also, just b/c you say something isn't a complaint, doesn't mean you can just say anything after that and it won't be perceived as one.
Kinda like:
"with all due respect, Mr Dennit ... I had no idea you had gotten experimental surgery to have your balls removed"
If this question just irritates anyone, mods feel free to delete it.
I'm curious at what is holding up the pace of ROM development for the Shift? There have been some nice quality ROMs out so far (BCNice in particular, some great work), but it seems like development has stalled slightly. Is there something that HTC hasn't released yet, or some major firmware hurdle?
Remember, this is NOT a complaint about the devs, far from it, just curiosity.
I here where you are coming from. I don't have a shift I have an evo. But if you really feel that strongly about it you should try just making your own. When I was using sense rom's that's what I did. I was able to customize the rom how I wanted put in what I wanted and so on. You should try that.
And please don't see this as me flaming you or hope this didn't offend you in any way, just a suggestion.
Sent from my dark WiMax infested CM7 Super...Mario...Saiyen...Street Fighter...oh yeah SuperSonic.
If you hang out in IRC you may get a different impression. Toastcfh is working his ass off.
^ Shift Faced
I had thought about that, but it's not so much that I don't like the ROMs available, it just seemed like development abruptly slowed down, and I was curious why.
EDIT: This was @caguirr4, btw
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If you hang out in IRC you may get a different impression. Toastcfh is working his ass off.
^ Shift Faced
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Oh, I'm not debating how hard the devs work...they do great work and once my money situation settles I plan on donating to several of them.
I was just wondering if they had hit some kind of a development roadblock, like I saw when I had an Epic and Samsung refused to release the kernel source.
Sorry if I was mis-understood...this thread was never meant to be a shot at any of the devs.
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I had thought about that, but it's not so much that I don't like the ROMs available, it just seemed like development abruptly slowed down, and I was curious why.
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Ohhh. I see. Yeah I don't see that kind of a stand still in the rom development for the evo I mean heck we have an influx of roms in our development section. But I say just give it some time. The shift is still a fairly new device. And I am sure that when it happens it will be like someone opened the flood gates.lol.
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Ohhh. I see. Yeah I don't see that kind of a stand still in the rom development for the evo I mean heck we have an influx of roms in our development section. But I say just give it some time. The shift is still a fairly new device. And I am sure that when it happens it will be like someone opened the flood gates.lol.
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i do believe the holdup is a fully working recovery. the ones we have are....temperamental....to say the least. but patience. all good things have yet to come
in the mean time, feel free to pick up a .zip and start developing...you never know unless you try
Hang around IRC. Good stuff going on in there. Still some beta stage stuff (which works quite well), but before you know it, they'll be here.
I like a lot of what has been done. When we get to the point of a fully working 2.3 I'll do cartwheels...and I can't do cartwheels...
Either way, you get the point.
I was just about to pose this question as well. I have the Evo and my brother has the Evo shift and I was curious about the rom development support. I hope someone is able to do a One Click Root as well since i'm really not comfortable not using it.
Would love to see Myn's roms on here, cm7 and miui on here. We both would definitely donate.
I also wondered what happened. It was like we got S-OFF and the kernel source and people tinkered with the phone for 2 weeks and just stopped.
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I also wondered what happened. It was like we got S-OFF and the kernel source and people tinkered with the phone for 2 weeks and just stopped.
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I posted a link for a kitchen in the general section..you could start there and be the next jesusfreke or bcnice
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The kitchen is nice to play with. Ive tinkered with it a lil bit but dont really have enuff knowledge to try and put out my own rom
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The kitchen is nice to play with. Ive tinkered with it a lil bit but dont really have enuff knowledge to try and put out my own rom
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There are posts on xda to cover almost everything..of my knowledge there is nothing over coding...but may be a few things about making kernels and the sort..not flaming bout anyone..just a huge peeve of mine to hear people complain without a better suggestion..I did like the idea of contributing an evo to cyanogen to get some dev work out of it but people rush something only a limited people have knowledge over so why not educate yourself
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kinda in the same boat here about the rom develoment. I mean i had an evo since the first day then switched to the shift i was hoping for little more rom support.I mean i geuss the evo had everyone developing for it, Just hopeing bnice can update his work. anybody if hes working on it? his muiu work on the evo wa phenemonal and would love to have a better dezire port
With you attempting to do cartwheels, now I see how you got your screen name. LOL!
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With you attempting to do cartwheels, now I see how you got your screen name. LOL!
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Well played, sir.
willing to test this rom out? i'm still working at it..it's 60% droid x style.I'm currently running it now.
as any other roms you flash.You must wipe to factory settings clear dalvik cache and wipe cache partitions and the rest then flash the rom.
link: DOWNLOAD
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I think the OP is questioning exactly what everyone's been up to. Care to shed some light on where he's heading (Sense 2.0, CM7, etc)
Was wondering the same thing. Keep checking here everyday and nothing.
Whats up guys ...
Hope you all enjoy Gingerbread it seems to be close to release and comming along pretty good ...
I also want to thank the Devs and all of the people who's hard work goes into making Kernels, Themes, Roms,How to videos ...
This has been my favorite forum (even with its ups and downs -_- )on XDA all of you guys are awesome
Thanks!! for making the epic a truly Epic phone.
Keep up the good work guys hope you guys enjoy what time you have left here.
before i leave though ...
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I got one for each of you
Thanks! ................
Great post
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Where you going? There are still treats to be had!
I approve this post.
The Root said:
Where you going? There are still treats to be had!
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I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Lol I'm sorry your going to have a hard time there, so many trolls heading that way
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I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Stay here! We know you here. Lol
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I won't be going to the Within, but I'll be sending decent people there.
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The Root said:
I won't be going to the Within, but I'll be sending decent people there.
Sent from Godot's place.
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Its amazing the maturity of the people on the Epic forums compared to the Evo forums ... it's ridiculous
woot woot!
Ditto on the Within. I haven't truely made up my mind just yet (although I hate the screen, cams and battery life on the evo3d). I don't get my upgrade til September (epic release date) after calling Sprint about premier gold vs silver (thanks again guys!) and my plan is to wait about a month (if necessary) to see what Cyanogenmod prospects look like on both platforms. If the within has good progress at least being made, within for sure. But if it's a small dev community (don't get me wrong, ours is certainly quality over quantity ) again working on a very different us variant with issues, it may be enough to make me take the Evo3D. I love its resolution like you wouldn't believe, but I think the screen looks like crap because of the 3d surface on top of it. Plus qualcomm crappy battery life, 720p 5mp only cameras... should be interesting!
I don't think I'm alone in saying though the epic taught me a very valuable lesson. Never buy on release day. Its hard I know but the epic is great, we've STILL got great devs hard at work, and gingerbread and flash look better than on a mac (which almost always suck with fash). I'll wait it out a bit. If I upgrade it'll be mostly for software support, mods and a bit more running ram for multitasking.
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This is basically my thoughts ... i think im going to wait ... but you can order the Evo 3d online now ...
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onli...es?phoneSKU=APX515CKT&ECID=vanity:ftbredbud29
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Ditto on the Within. I haven't truely made up my mind just yet (although I hate the screen, cams and battery life on the evo3d). I don't get my upgrade til September (epic release date) after calling Sprint about premier gold vs silver (thanks again guys!) and my plan is to wait about a month (if necessary) to see what Cyanogenmod prospects look like on both platforms. If the within has good progress at least being made, within for sure. But if it's a small dev community (don't get me wrong, ours is certainly quality over quantity ) again working on a very different us variant with issues, it may be enough to make me take the Evo3D. I love its resolution like you wouldn't believe, but I think the screen looks like crap because of the 3d surface on top of it. Plus qualcomm crappy battery life, 720p 5mp only cameras... should be interesting!
I don't think I'm alone in saying though the epic taught me a very valuable lesson. Never buy on release day. Its hard I know but the epic is great, we've STILL got great devs hard at work, and gingerbread and flash look better than on a mac (which almost always suck with fash). I'll wait it out a bit. If I upgrade it'll be mostly for software support, mods and a bit more running ram for multitasking.
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Mystery's ability to do what he did with froyo makes me wonder what we'll get from ACS regarding GB. This release was sick. It's the froyo we were all seeking. I think we're on track to see our phones rise as their reliability continue to cruise. I know people still joining older phones for cost reasons. We'll have another wave enter our community down the road. It's all cyclical. The Within crowd will be demanding before they learn patience. Be strong, grasshoppers.
That reminds me, in preparation for my trip to Amsterdam and Germany I was updating my old TP2 (for the sim card slot, last year I got 6.5-7mbps on vodafone germany, for ten euros for the month prepaid! Way faster than 3g sprint, kinda funny). They still have active development going on! Its awesome, I love the community! June 6th for the rom, then they've got a very nice froyo (and somewhat unstable gingerbread) in both nand flash or haret boot. Amazing. That and the wpa-supplicant ad-hoc hack for the epic and I'll be tethering my epic to the tp2, google voice and skype, ten euros prepaid internet and I'll be good to go! Did I mention I love the community?!
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iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Ya, getting the 3d on friday. But I've noticed to, to many a-holes on evo threads.
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iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
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I saw that post... I think everyone there will be a lot nicer once they actually get their phones.
readingkeeper said:
I saw that post... I think everyone there will be a lot nicer once they actually get their phones.
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They're already backordered (gives me an excuse not to be with them)... so im not getting it Samsung Within it is then ...
iSaint said:
They're already backordered (gives me an excuse not to be with them)... so im not getting it Samsung Within it is then ...
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I would wait, a little longer for better phone
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I would wait, a little longer for better phone
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Yea i don't really have a choice now ... my mom spent the money i saved up for it ...
She said she'll pay for the Within.. so $200 and im guessing the Within will be more .. so im making interest