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Why not just wait

Ok i know most here like myself want froyo pretty badly. Much respect to the devs here and cm for bringing us froyo but honestly until htc releases the kernel whats the point. From the froyo flashes i have ran they all are nice but there isnt any performance increase over the rest of the roms that have been released so far. Yes according to linpack and quadrant the current froyo is faster but in real world situations it isnt.
This is no way a bash to the developers. They have worked extremely hard so far to get us what we do have. I just say to wait for the kernel to be released and then let the magic happen.
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I like trying new things. I just don't like that eugene and other devs release broken roms and tell us not to "complain" when all we are doing is stating what's broken
Let it be known I'm not trying to start anything. I guess its a reason to wait for offical release because nothin will be broken
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Im not necessarily saying to wait for an official release. Take cyanogen mod 6 for example. They are putting alot of hard work into getting froyo to us but on the stock kernel. Once the kernel is released then there going to have more work on their hands.
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Saneless said:
I like trying new things. I just don't like that eugene and other devs release broken roms and tell us not to "complain" when all we are doing is stating what's broken
Let it be known I'm not trying to start anything. I guess its a reason to wait for offical release because nothin will be broken
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*double take* What? Is everyone here daft? They do this out of the kindness of their cockles and tease us about not complaining and then make updates, anyway! I'm having fun, son! Lighten up, homeslice. Let's kiss.

Personally I really like that these ROMs are out. It's like a ray of hope that 2.2 is coming, regardless of what T-Mobile or HTC decide to do. The one thing I've been really irked about when it comes to the carriers and handset makers is that they don't seem as interested in new technology. When T-Mo says that the myTouch is going to get froyo, I am kind of thinking that there's no reason to hold your breath. Maybe froyo will come, maybe next year, and honestly I don't want to wait that long. So it's nice to see even these ROMs because it means that the stable version is coming, and not on a T-Mo schedule...

im waiting !!!! lol

First off, I really appreciate all the hard work the devs are putting in. I kinda notice that the other new devices are getting more love then the slide but I guess that's due to its lack of "hype" or maybe since it's still fairly new.
I must say I'm joining the waiting boat though. My first slide was a breeze to root and mod. Unfortunately, I took it in for exchange (squeeky battery door and dust under the screen). The new one hasn't been so easy to mod. I managed to root and flash Eugene's SMR5r1, which I had on the old phone and loved. Since then all attempts to get into Clockwork have failed. I'm chillin' until there's an easier method.

daewond3r said:
First off, I really appreciate all the hard work the devs are putting in. I kinda notice that the other new devices are getting more love then the slide but I guess that's due to its lack of "hype" or maybe since it's still fairly new.
I must say I'm joining the waiting boat though. My first slide was a breeze to root and mod. Unfortunately, I took it in for exchange (squeeky battery door and dust under the screen). The new one hasn't been so easy to mod. I managed to root and flash Eugene's SMR5r1, which I had on the old phone and loved. Since then all attempts to get into Clockwork have failed. I'm chillin' until there's an easier method.
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Did you flash Eng-Build? If you didn't then you won't be able to get into Clockwork.

you guys complain way too much. threads like these make the devs shut it down all together. eugene373 has done that before and if these bs threads keep getting created then we can for sure hang it up and wait for the official release. so just be a lil...(f*ck that), A LOT more appreciative of the devs and their work on froyo

we put out buggy alphas because you cant wait.
we say no feedback because we know its broken. we also run our own roms so we are also testing and fixing on fly

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I like how you use the same image for everything, I see you trying to get your post count up.
Anyways, I'm waiting for the official 2.2 as of now, I don't mind the wait, and I don't really like the roms put out right now, I enjoy using the custom Sense UI, that's one of the main reasons I got the slide. I really hope a dev starts improving on the espresso UI more. I appreciate all of the other work devs are doing, but it's too much vanilla android for my taste. After having a G1 and MT3G for a year you kind of want something new

sultan.of.swing said:
Ok i know most here like myself want froyo pretty badly. Much respect to the devs here and cm for bringing us froyo but honestly until htc releases the kernel whats the point. From the froyo flashes i have ran they all are nice but there isnt any performance increase over the rest of the roms that have been released so far. Yes according to linpack and quadrant the current froyo is faster but in real world situations it isnt.
This is no way a bash to the developers. They have worked extremely hard so far to get us what we do have. I just say to wait for the kernel to be released and then let the magic happen.
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Yeah actually you're pretty much totally correct but it's nice to test the froyo fun anyway.
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Anartic said:
I like how you use the same image for everything, I see you trying to get your post count up
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If I wanted to get my post count up I would post stupid threads like this in sections where they don't belong... educate, don't hate.
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Don't hate...motivate...
That being said you and your thread failed thing were funny at first but taken out of moderation all you are doing is trolling and that didn't help either.
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Sleef said:
*double take* What? Is everyone here daft? They do this out of the kindness of their cockles and tease us about not complaining and then make updates, anyway! I'm having fun, son! Lighten up, homeslice. Let's kiss.
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What i was saying was regardless of doing it out of "kindness" you dont have to be a **** to everyone when they ask questions.

Exactly
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Back to the topic...
I kind of agree! I love the stock sense ui and was pretty disappointed when devs strayed from 2.1 sense roms. After trying a couple of froyo roms.. I've decided I'm sticking with smr4 with the sense ui. I WOULD go back to stock but I would miss a2sd waaaaaay too much.
Waiting for official froyo.
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is it just me or.....

...does there seem to be more / advanced development going on for the 3 year old touch vogue with ported android than we have for the hero with native android? i mean they already have a fully working 2.2 port as well. no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.

Why don't you contribute something then?

derekwilkinson said:
Why don't you contribute something then?
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because all he does is complain.

Papa Smurf151 said:
because all he does is complain.
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i asked a question, i wasn't dissing the devs. it just pisses me off that the hero is considered an ancient phone in less than a year and the vogue is 3 years old and has more development.
and before anybody asks...yes i left the evo after a week for 3 reasons.
1.) too slow of development.
2.) you have to disable everything to get half way decent battery life.
3.) the $10 extra is a joke when i have no 4g.

markus_del_marko said:
i asked a question, i wasn't dissing the devs. it just pisses me off that the hero is considered an ancient phone in less than a year and the vogue is 3 years old and has more development.
and before anybody asks...yes i left the evo after a week for 3 reasons.
1.) too slow of development.
2.) you have to disable everything to get half way decent battery life.
3.) the $10 extra is a joke when i have no 4g.
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so lets see...
1.) the evo has been out for what a month or two and from what ive seen there have been huge break throughs
2.) alot of those issues are being worked on and will be fixed. we didnt have oc/uv until just recently. What makes u think everything is gonna be discovered over night
3.) 10 bucks is gay

$10 just isn't worth it.
Swyped from my Sprint Hero via XDA app.

They have more developing going on b/c the vogue is 3 years old and thats a long time . The hero hasn't been out a year yet and look at all the roms , themes , etc. that we have already .
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Every carrier will have some extra charge for "4G". Every carrier is now at some sort of "cap" for their data as well. Everyone wants something new without the extra $10. So you want 4G in your area, but you don't want to help pay to develop it.... typical American thinking, everything must come free.

DirtyShroomz said:
Every carrier will have some extra charge for "4G". Every carrier is now at some sort of "cap" for their data as well. Everyone wants something new without the extra $10. So you want 4G in your area, but you don't want to help pay to develop it.... typical American thinking, everything must come free.
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Hey guys, what's going on in here?

i don't see a problem with the hero development. maybe youre just one of those whiney people who is never happy.
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markus_del_marko said:
...does there seem to be more / advanced development going on for the 3 year old touch vogue with ported android than we have for the hero with native android? i mean they already have a fully working 2.2 port as well. no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.
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I am personally very proud of our developers and take offense to your statement.they have done great things for my hero and we must remember that they are doing it free of charge,I don't quite have the understanding that they do when it comes to development so without them I would be lost,thanks to everyone that supports our device

markus_del_marko said:
no offense towards our devs but this place has been a ghost town since the almighty evo dropped.
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Really, who has left? By my accounts, other the Damageless, all other devs and modders, for the most part, are still here doing work, at least to some degree.

It's not easy wat these people are doing so yea it is just you
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JsChiSurf said:
Really, who has left? By my accounts, other the Damageless, all other devs and modders, for the most part, are still here doing work, at least to some degree.
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He complains about everything dude. He has never produced a mod/theme/rom/fix/ or anything for that matter other than threads asking for ports from other phones or threads complaining. Kinda reminds me of another user that hasn't posted in forever. Damageless and treve r the only two who have left. Even fresh and konikub have updated their Rome even though they r working on the evo also. BTW jschisurf=mod God. Not kissing ur ass bro just making a true statement

abcdfv said:
Hey guys, what's going on in here?
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How do you figure? It's the only one of it's kind, you really thought it was going to be the same price as everything else out there?

Papa Smurf151 said:
He complains about everything dude. He has never produced a mod/theme/rom/fix/ or anything for that matter other than threads asking for ports from other phones or threads complaining. Kinda reminds me of another user that hasn't posted in forever. Damageless and treve r the only two who have left. Even fresh and konikub have updated their Rome even though they r working on the evo also. BTW jschisurf=mod God. Not kissing ur ass bro just making a true statement
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Ha, thanks man. You do nice work yourself IMHO, there's still a pretty solid core around here.

So can someone enlighten me on what hasn't been done yet???
I mean as far as I know, devs didn't have to rewrite drivers from scratch (With the exception of the touch drivers)
I just have a hard time figuring out what they are doing that we haven't already done...i am sure if you would say "Hey vogue guys have this - and it would be cool to have" someone would look at it...but no one here has the need to run Ubuntu or windows mobile ports so what are you complaining about???

I wouldn't mind running another Linux port when I'm through with my hero. It would be nice to be able to run backtrack but alas that is only a dream. Aside from that anything that I'd ever want or need has been so graciously provided for by the amazing devs and if it hasn't there is probably a guide or tut out there for how to do it on my own Cheers to the awesomeness that is xda!

DirtyShroomz said:
How do you figure? It's the only one of it's kind, you really thought it was going to be the same price as everything else out there?
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That was more directed at the "Everything must come free"
If it was free, anyone who wanted it could have it. Sounds like Communism to me.

lol Im very proud of the work that our devs have done..and thank them any chance i get..for without them what would we have? I may not like some of the extra stuff on some roms.. but at least they give a damn to put something out for those who do!!Its all bout choices..which in my eyes we have plenty for our hero.. like sense..well go try out one of many roms based off it.. like stock android..go get darchdroid...<----my fav by the way...

Is the epic development thread dead?

We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening

Maybe we need to pony up the cash and buy a dev an epic.
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Quit your yappin. Its not dead, devs are just waiting for a better working Froyo leak.
Android Central: We know everyone out there is waiting on Froyo for their Fascinates, Epics, Captivates, and Vibrants. Samsung has given the carriers their code, and the carriers are testing. We are waiting on them now.

Are you serous? There are devs still here, and they are busy. The only true dev? were you using andromeda before froyo came out? Why don't you be patient until the official froyo is out, the work is coming! Its hard to develop a rom without thee source code and no one is putting their time into 2.1 this late?
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It's not that the dev community is dead. It's more like the calm before the storm. the anticipated official release of froyo is what everyone preparing for. Some are busy cooking roms for the leaked releases while some are digging into other similar official releases to hopefully get a jump start for the epic release.
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orpheostelos said:
We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
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Why are you even posting this here? This should be in General!! You posting this here alone tells me you dont know what the heck your talking about!!! The only "true" Dev? What the hell are you talking about? Theres plenty of awesume Dev's here!! A lot more than you think!

I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.

ragnarokx said:
I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
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Yeah people dint apriciate his work enough,sht I would leave too if people were saying that im withholding roms,so what if i am witholding roms?arent they mine to begin with?and sharing them on xda is a privilege.

Ok I may be wrong about "the only true dev thing"...I just want to understand why our community is isolated from each other...just take a quick peak at the facinate thread,a phone that came out almost a month after the epic...the development area its going smothly there. Even our own carrier has left us on the backdoor...how many updates had we have ...2....compare to 8 0r 7 on the EVO.

ragnarokx said:
I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
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One-Click Root: A script. Very simple. The hack on the adb daemon (rageagainstthecage) that it uses works on every > 2.1 Android phone and was done by a brilliant dev at c-skills.blogspot.com I believe.
Andromeda: Another kernel. Mine wasn't based of his at all. Devins is based off mine, and possibly a few of noobs tweaks haven't checked. Hero's wasn't based on it. Not sure about fluffkernel or any of the others.
Clockwork: Point for you. He did get the ramdisk working with it, but koush did most of the work on the final version.
Cyanogenmod: WesGarner's work for the Vibrant, but with an Epic kernel & ramdisk.
Not saying he didn't do anything, but I AM saying that people blow everything out of proportion without realizing how simple some of it is, either from ignorance or just misunderstanding.

It's the holidays. Cut them some slack.

orpheostelos said:
We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
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There are lots of great developers/modders on the EPIC forum including noobl. Right now, without the final release of FROYO and without FROYO sources, everyone is on a standby.
For the 2.1 ROMS, EPIC Exp and Syndicate are both great 2.1 ROMS. There are several great 2.1 kernals as well. With so many great 2.1 options, not much more that can be tweaked that is truly interesting.
If you're interested in playing with beta 2.2 roms, there are few great options there as well. In fact, within 24 hours of the DK18 leak, there were three ROMS to choose from. Not bad.
Regardless, you'll see this forum pick up pretty quick after the final release of 2.2 and 2.2 sources.
Of course by the time 2.2 comes out for EPIC, google will release gingerbread and everyone will be asking when gingerbread will be coming out for EPIC. Not going to hold my breath for that one.

I came from the hero and that dev community was amazing. The debs here are great but it definitely isn't as exciting as I feel the hero rout experience was. I recall thread suggestions and devs quickly entering with an affirmative answer or why it wasnt possible. I made a simple request about the vanilla lock screen and never heard anything. I do love what the devs have done though.
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OP = Chicken Little

While this community is great it seems deadcompared to the evo community but I blame samsung for this and them taking there sweet ass time pushing out 2.2...if its not out by december 5th I'm selling my epic for good and will stick with my evo
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imtjnotu said:
if its not out by december 5th I'm selling my epic for good and will stick with my evo
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Might as well get a head start now. Not trying to spread doom and gloom, but that date will sadly come and go before we see Froyo.

entropism said:
Might as well get a head start now. Not trying to spread doom and gloom, but that date will sadly come and go before we see Froyo.
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Please tell us the reason for that is Samsung is actually trying to fix all the issues..and not them implementing say bloat ware or being slackers,,right?

Selling your EPICs or switch them back for the EVO won't help minimize the problem that we have here....we need to think of a way to get the drama out of this forums ....to keep it clean of negativate things, come on pleople...this isn't the place to start whining cus your girlfriend dumped you or cuz you personal issues with yourself....we all have different reason to be here....beta testing, developing, to improve our phones or even to mess with it up to point we either break our phone or make them better than anybody else's

A lot of what you guys are seeing is vert similar to the moment community. When I had my moment things always got dramatic. I think it was mainly out of frustration towards sprint. You see it even now there are rumors that froyo is being pushed back but sprint won't say a damn word either way and in the end they will conduct themselves in a way that will make epic owners feel slighted their pr dept must suck. I say e ask ban together and make this pioneer great because like with rhett moment spring isn't going to make out great our dev's are going too. And fyi i don't think noob will ever be gone he just went underground. He's working behind the scenes he loves deving too much
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We have lost our only true developer...
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4G in ROM's is a deal breaker for me...

So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...
Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.
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There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.
/MINDLESS RANT

I love 4g too but Myns warm z is too good not to use! I use 4g for slingbox and playon... We'll see how long I can last without it

why don't you just develop your own roms then?
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thier are a few roms that 4g. like sprintlovers rom.

Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?
Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.
Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.

Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.

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Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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thank you based god

an explanation
4g and hdmi are built into sense 1.0. So if a rom is sense based it has 4g working. If its asop (cm, miui not really asop but kinda ) or sense 2.0 like warm z then those things dont work. BUT as was stated team win developed a way to use 4g on cm roms. Theoretically this could spread to other roms such as how using the camera spread from cm to miui ect.... who knows soon because of the hard work of these devs all roms will have 4g. So just enjoy and stop complaining about things you get for free.

lol i read it the same way, i thought he was just pulling humor from the people saying they won't use a custom rom due to no 4g.
You will find in due time that as of right now, 4g is just a meh unless you really do use it. I lived in 2 cities that have 4g, Orlando and Raleigh and when I got my phone, i was just like you. omgggggg 4g or i won't use!!!11
But in all seriousness, there hasnt been many occasions where i actually needed it. Sometimes when I wanted to view or show a youtube video in high quality and I wasnt in a wifi area... and that's all I can really think of. But like mentioned above, if you want to keep 4g on, your battery will suffer. So regardless, if i'm paying for it or not, i'm not really using it at all. It's like 5% of my usage.

Phillysphinest1 said:
So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...
Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.
There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.
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You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?
Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
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Am in Chicago...haven't chosen a 4G Rom in a while.
4G's a crock for me. Its only significantly faster with a very strong signal (which is less than half the time). And its a bigger crock indoors. So plain not worth it.
(I don't go speedtest apps btw (4G always looks good there)...I use some standard sites and measure the time it takes to download..
4G sucks.

I should say SPRINT 4G sucks. T-Mobile speeds much closer to 4G capability.
Will be breaking contract to take up Galaxy SII or LG this spring.

Since you're feeling quick to judge and critique... I'd like to remind you that 3G data connectivity and WiFi are BUILT INTO ANDROID.
4G on the other hand, has to be completely built by scratch by the ROM developer.
I don't deny the value of including 4G in a ROM, but please know that a developer might spend hundreds of hours trying to get it working / writing it from scratch.

eliporter said:
thank you based god
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Lmmfao.... spoken like a tru NT'er
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This post has nuting but fail in it...noones paying developers to do what they do...You developers rock and don't have to do anything with their roms just cuz you want them too.../end rant lol
p.s. CM is asop and just reverse engineered wimax that by itself is a a epic achievement and they do these kinds of things cuz they want to../end 2nd rant lol

I too want try out Warm Z but Im gonna wait until it has 4g. Kings Ultra is just fine right now, been rocking it since monday.

wingzfan said:
Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?
Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.
Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.
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Obviously your NOT very good at reading. If you were you'd see that i clearly said this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant. And i also gave praise to guys that dedicate their time to develop these thing. Sorry dude...your post was unneeded. Read carefully next time.
IOInterrupt said:
Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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^^Thanks, i'll do that^^
matt2053 said:
You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?
Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
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Again a NON-reader. I clearly stated that i understand building 4g from scratch wasnt a 2 second process. I also CLEARLY stated that i give props to all the guys that spend their time doing this. I even wish i had the time to do it on my own!!!
You guys PREACH reading but cant read a simple post or even distinguish a simple complaint from a rant to save your lives. Its all good tho!! Love you ****ers & this board!!!!

Phillysphinest1 said:
this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant.
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Um, what's the difference between a complaint and a rant? If there is a difference at all, isn't a rant worse than a complaint?

There are TONS of ROMs with 4g to choose from. Also, just b/c you say something isn't a complaint, doesn't mean you can just say anything after that and it won't be perceived as one.
Kinda like:
"with all due respect, Mr Dennit ... I had no idea you had gotten experimental surgery to have your balls removed"

HTC EVO Roms

There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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bjgebg said:
There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off
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I haven't seen that happen.
only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame ..
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That's your opinion. There is a reason we have dozens of roms for the evo, cause people like them. I flash a new rom every week or so. I have yet to find one that is "pretty lame".

If you aren't happy, make your own! Don't ***** at the devs that build the roms on their free time and let you run em for FREE. Hence the word free. Be appreciative for something once in your life!
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bjgebg said:
There should be a lot more developers out there who can make better Roms or dump other stock Roms onto devices not just the EVO 4g, but some of these developers half way do a project than stop or give up which pisses me off ..only good working ROM in my opinion is MikG everything else is pretty much lame .. Comments?
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I guarantee theres no other place other than XDA that you will find android developers better than the ones here,these guys dont have to share their expertise with you or anyone else for that matter,these guys work hard to give this community the best.As the guy above said,if your not happy with the development here,then develope a rom yourself.As for the best rom,there is'nt one they all run great,but are different styles,none are the same.As for giving up on a rom in mid development,its probably because this is'nt paying their bills and they have families to deal with,again they do this on their free time,to give back to the community.You should show appreciation to all developers.

I smell a Troll in the air...
Sent from my Tricked-out-Evo....

There are plenty of devs and plenty of ROMs. Not everyone does this for a living, people do have lives and are busy or move on to different phones.
We have a great development section. The Evo 3D section, up until recently, was just the same Sense themed differently with a couple differences. We have plenty of things to choose from.
If you don't like things, change things and make your own ROM.
ANNOUNCEMENT: I should be starting a Photon 4G port soon. If anyone has any words of wisdom or advice and guidance, PM me.

I feel quite the opposite as OP. I am so thankful for this community that gives me so much for pretty much nothing in return but a meager "thanks! "
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I kinda see where hes coming from. Some roms do get put in a stand still.. Its great there are lots of devs out there, but i do find myself flashing more because most the roms I'm using are in beta modes. Its funny I turned my phone into sprint today, and was surprised how stock non rooted did. Everything was snappy, but all those dam apps and the horrible battery life, makes me glad devs do make roms for us. So don't read into that too much guys and don't take everything defensive.

Lame??? unreal.....
There are so many good ROMS it's like being a kid in a candy store, not knowing which way to turn first.

Ye and there outdated
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HipKat said:
Lame??? unreal.....
There are so many good ROMS it's like being a kid in a candy store, not knowing which way to turn first.
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Agreed, I'm very grateful for all the devs do for us FOR FREE. I don't understand people who complain about free things. Like others have said, if you don't like what you see, learn to make a ROM yourself!

johntheman said:
Agreed, I'm very grateful for all the devs do for us FOR FREE. I don't understand people who complain about free things. Like others have said, if you don't like what you see, learn to make a ROM yourself!
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Won't be free if something breaks on your phone from rooting a rom that wasn't tested fully enough..

thlinx said:
Won't be free if something breaks on your phone from rooting a rom that wasn't tested fully enough..
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Name the ROM that broke your phone.

bigmoogle said:
Name the ROM that broke your phone.
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sure thing.. Was an old virus rom, which speaker was too loud and blew my ear piece speaker.. Cost me 35 dollars

thlinx said:
sure thing.. Was an old virus rom, which speaker was too loud and blew my ear piece speaker.. Cost me 35 dollars
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That just sounds like you had a bad equalizer setting and if it was of course overpowered, the speaker will blow. And the roms are clearly labeled, alpha, beta, stable, ect, clearly listing what works / what doesn't. You flash and root at your own risk, so don't cry about when something happens because of something you did, to your phone, under your own influence.

I was running this sweet custom ROM once...
I was talking on the phone and driving my car and some guy ran a red light and hit me.
Darn developers!
~ I'm a fungi

teh roxxorz said:
That just sounds like you had a bad equalizer setting and if it was of course overpowered, the speaker will blow. And the roms are clearly labeled, alpha, beta, stable, ect, clearly listing what works / what doesn't. You flash and root at your own risk, so don't cry about when something happens because of something you did, to your phone, under your own influence.
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Gee really??? I installed the STOCK ROM did no modifications. He asked if a rom broke my phone and it did. I know they are at my own risks.. I didn't complain to virus I learned my lesson so wtf you on about besides trolling?

thlinx said:
Gee really??? I installed the STOCK ROM did no modifications. He asked if a rom broke my phone and it did. I know they are at my own risks.. I didn't complain to virus I learned my lesson so wtf you on about besides trolling?
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The stock rom can have modifications, even if you didn't make them yourself. And again, yes, a custom rom broke your phone, you may not have complained to virus about it, but you're still complaining about it now. And I'm far from trolling you, I raised a logical, correct point.

thlinx said:
Ye and there outdated
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And there hasn't been 50 new phones released since the EVO!? So when they fixxed the speaker they told you your rooted stock rom broke it? Also for you to get pissy when someone points out something valid is just stupid.
My knocked up EVO