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Why not just wait

Ok i know most here like myself want froyo pretty badly. Much respect to the devs here and cm for bringing us froyo but honestly until htc releases the kernel whats the point. From the froyo flashes i have ran they all are nice but there isnt any performance increase over the rest of the roms that have been released so far. Yes according to linpack and quadrant the current froyo is faster but in real world situations it isnt.
This is no way a bash to the developers. They have worked extremely hard so far to get us what we do have. I just say to wait for the kernel to be released and then let the magic happen.
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I like trying new things. I just don't like that eugene and other devs release broken roms and tell us not to "complain" when all we are doing is stating what's broken
Let it be known I'm not trying to start anything. I guess its a reason to wait for offical release because nothin will be broken
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Im not necessarily saying to wait for an official release. Take cyanogen mod 6 for example. They are putting alot of hard work into getting froyo to us but on the stock kernel. Once the kernel is released then there going to have more work on their hands.
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Saneless said:
I like trying new things. I just don't like that eugene and other devs release broken roms and tell us not to "complain" when all we are doing is stating what's broken
Let it be known I'm not trying to start anything. I guess its a reason to wait for offical release because nothin will be broken
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*double take* What? Is everyone here daft? They do this out of the kindness of their cockles and tease us about not complaining and then make updates, anyway! I'm having fun, son! Lighten up, homeslice. Let's kiss.

Personally I really like that these ROMs are out. It's like a ray of hope that 2.2 is coming, regardless of what T-Mobile or HTC decide to do. The one thing I've been really irked about when it comes to the carriers and handset makers is that they don't seem as interested in new technology. When T-Mo says that the myTouch is going to get froyo, I am kind of thinking that there's no reason to hold your breath. Maybe froyo will come, maybe next year, and honestly I don't want to wait that long. So it's nice to see even these ROMs because it means that the stable version is coming, and not on a T-Mo schedule...

im waiting !!!! lol

First off, I really appreciate all the hard work the devs are putting in. I kinda notice that the other new devices are getting more love then the slide but I guess that's due to its lack of "hype" or maybe since it's still fairly new.
I must say I'm joining the waiting boat though. My first slide was a breeze to root and mod. Unfortunately, I took it in for exchange (squeeky battery door and dust under the screen). The new one hasn't been so easy to mod. I managed to root and flash Eugene's SMR5r1, which I had on the old phone and loved. Since then all attempts to get into Clockwork have failed. I'm chillin' until there's an easier method.

daewond3r said:
First off, I really appreciate all the hard work the devs are putting in. I kinda notice that the other new devices are getting more love then the slide but I guess that's due to its lack of "hype" or maybe since it's still fairly new.
I must say I'm joining the waiting boat though. My first slide was a breeze to root and mod. Unfortunately, I took it in for exchange (squeeky battery door and dust under the screen). The new one hasn't been so easy to mod. I managed to root and flash Eugene's SMR5r1, which I had on the old phone and loved. Since then all attempts to get into Clockwork have failed. I'm chillin' until there's an easier method.
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Did you flash Eng-Build? If you didn't then you won't be able to get into Clockwork.

you guys complain way too much. threads like these make the devs shut it down all together. eugene373 has done that before and if these bs threads keep getting created then we can for sure hang it up and wait for the official release. so just be a lil...(f*ck that), A LOT more appreciative of the devs and their work on froyo

we put out buggy alphas because you cant wait.
we say no feedback because we know its broken. we also run our own roms so we are also testing and fixing on fly

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I like how you use the same image for everything, I see you trying to get your post count up.
Anyways, I'm waiting for the official 2.2 as of now, I don't mind the wait, and I don't really like the roms put out right now, I enjoy using the custom Sense UI, that's one of the main reasons I got the slide. I really hope a dev starts improving on the espresso UI more. I appreciate all of the other work devs are doing, but it's too much vanilla android for my taste. After having a G1 and MT3G for a year you kind of want something new

sultan.of.swing said:
Ok i know most here like myself want froyo pretty badly. Much respect to the devs here and cm for bringing us froyo but honestly until htc releases the kernel whats the point. From the froyo flashes i have ran they all are nice but there isnt any performance increase over the rest of the roms that have been released so far. Yes according to linpack and quadrant the current froyo is faster but in real world situations it isnt.
This is no way a bash to the developers. They have worked extremely hard so far to get us what we do have. I just say to wait for the kernel to be released and then let the magic happen.
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Yeah actually you're pretty much totally correct but it's nice to test the froyo fun anyway.
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Anartic said:
I like how you use the same image for everything, I see you trying to get your post count up
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If I wanted to get my post count up I would post stupid threads like this in sections where they don't belong... educate, don't hate.
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Don't hate...motivate...
That being said you and your thread failed thing were funny at first but taken out of moderation all you are doing is trolling and that didn't help either.
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Sleef said:
*double take* What? Is everyone here daft? They do this out of the kindness of their cockles and tease us about not complaining and then make updates, anyway! I'm having fun, son! Lighten up, homeslice. Let's kiss.
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What i was saying was regardless of doing it out of "kindness" you dont have to be a **** to everyone when they ask questions.

Exactly
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Back to the topic...
I kind of agree! I love the stock sense ui and was pretty disappointed when devs strayed from 2.1 sense roms. After trying a couple of froyo roms.. I've decided I'm sticking with smr4 with the sense ui. I WOULD go back to stock but I would miss a2sd waaaaaay too much.
Waiting for official froyo.
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Other phones getting froyo .. not vibrant yet

So other phones are getting froyo, even a leaked version is out and we are stuck with nothing for the vibrant. The Droid 2 has froyo already and it just came out a few days ago. What's up with that? And I'm guessing the only thing we can expect new is browser speed and flash anyhow right? What about Samsung manually fixing that damn lag fix themselves and fully using the power of this device?
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Uhm. there was a leaked version of 2.2 for the Vibrant (international version). What exactly is the point that you're trying to get at?
No there are more features.. JIT is one of the most important ones.
Do some research before making your point, Samsung has already said Froyo is due near September. Be patient. Root your phone if you want to use the "Lagfix."
There are also 10 more threads asking the same thing, we don't need any more of these threads. It'll be out sooner than you know it as long as you stop focusing so much on it.

Excuse u I'm free to generally speak about whatever I want. Like I said, Samsung should have set their phone to maximum performance when releasing it and there wouldn't even have to be a lag fix. I see there's a nationalal release of froyo for devs but I'm curious as to how the Droid 2 got a working froyo already. And don't come in here telling me what I can type. What the heck is wrong with u? I'm smart when it comes to these phones and its unfortunate that u cant understand my point. Get off of my topic
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stepinmyworld said:
Excuse u I'm free to generally speak about whatever I want. Like I said, Samsung should have set their phone to maximum performance when releasing it and there wouldn't even have to be a lag fix. I see there's a nationalal release of froyo for devs but I'm curious as to how the Droid 2 got a working froyo already. And don't come in here telling me what I can type. What the heck is wrong with u? I'm smart when it comes to these phones and its unfortunate that u cant understand my point. Get off of my topic
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If your "smart when it comes to these phones" you would know that motorola has been working on 2.2 since the second it came out. Samsung has a lot more going on with the UI than motorola does, so its not as easy for them to just get it out. Your ignorance to posting the SAME DAMN QUESTION that multiple people have asked is where he gets the right to tell you not to make another pointless thread. It will comes when it comes, until then quit crying.

You know Motorola Droid 2 is the only phone to be released on launch date with Android 2.2? September is a pretty quick date for a Froyo 2.2 compared to:
myTouch 3G (Stock): 1.6
T-Mobile G1 (Stock): 1.6
Motorola Cliq: 1.6
------> Sony Ericsson Xperia: 1.6
------> Dell Streak 5: 1.6
IF ANYTHING Samsung is doing a great job compared to Dell and Sony which will probably be getting Froyo at a LATER date.
The Galaxy S is ranked #1 as highest benchmarks with the lagfix. So I don't get what you mean by "maximium performance." If a number on your Android is bothering you then you should of purchased a Nexus One or a DROID 2 instead. Droid 2 has got a "working froyo" because it LAUNCHED with it and when the phone was being made Motorola, Verizon were probably working together with Google to launch this.
And since you said that you have rights to publish this, I have my rights to express my opinion as well and I think that all these posts saying that the Vibrant isn't on 2.2 isn't going to make the vibrant get it any faster. The phone is relatively new and developers are getting more familiar with Samsung.
Just enjoy the phone for what it is right now, there are certainly a lot more to do on it than a new version of Android. Coming from a G1 (even though I had 2.2) this is a significant milestone for me on how smooth the device is.
Edit: Agreed with fenixnr, pretty much what I said.

stepinmyworld said:
Excuse u I'm free to generally speak about whatever I want. Like I said, Samsung should have set their phone to maximum performance when releasing it and there wouldn't even have to be a lag fix. I see there's a nationalal release of froyo for devs but I'm curious as to how the Droid 2 got a working froyo already. And don't come in here telling me what I can type. What the heck is wrong with u? I'm smart when it comes to these phones and its unfortunate that u cant understand my point. Get off of my topic
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Unfortunately for you, this is a forum, and there are rules and etiquette to abide by.
Your point is easily understood - you want froyo, like NOW. Just chill out, be patient, and learn some manners.
Thanks.

Definitely agree with the others on this. Froyo will come soon enough. Samsung has stated it. There's nothing you can do to change that. The other thing you need to take into consideration between the Droid 2 and the Vibrant.......Droid 2 - Motorola. Vibrant - Samsung.
Different companies.

Do we really need another thread about this? Froyo won't come any faster just coming in here and *****ing about it, so why don't you just relax, do something productive and have fun while waiting for the update. It will be here soon.

Take a deep breath ... woosahh ... woosah .. Froyo will come soon enough ..

I'm clearly abiding by the rules. My topic didn't ask a question, I'm simply getting opinions from you guys as to why froyo was released so quickly on the Droid 2 but I understand now... I realized that Motorola released froyo for the regular Droid a little while ago *well not full release* but I can't stand when someone comes in here and feel the need to type rude stuff to people. I'm grown. If the topic seems pointless like others then allow it to die off and not reply to it if you don't have anything respectful to say. Rude people I yell you. But thanks to the ones that have some type of respect when replying. Smh
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stepinmyworld said:
Excuse u I'm free to generally speak about whatever I want. Like I said, Samsung should have set their phone to maximum performance when releasing it and there wouldn't even have to be a lag fix. I see there's a nationalal release of froyo for devs but I'm curious as to how the Droid 2 got a working froyo already. And don't come in here telling me what I can type. What the heck is wrong with u? I'm smart when it comes to these phones and its unfortunate that u cant understand my point. Get off of my topic
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HAHA, this is awesome. When has any phone, or electronic device for that matter, been released to "its maximum performance" and or have no problems in the history of time? Would you really want that? Have no room for improvement?
While you wait for 2.2 to drop (when ever it does) I would suggest go through the dev forum and try some of great stuff thats out already. Had my phone for 3 weeks and after spending some time all my problems are GONE! Nothing is ever going to perfect, even when 2.2 comes out your phone still might not make you happy. haha
just my .02

stepinmyworld said:
I'm clearly abiding by the rules. My topic didn't ask a question, I'm simply getting opinions from you guys as to why froyo was released so quickly on the Droid 2 but I understand now... I realized that Motorola released froyo for the regular Droid a little while ago *well not full release* but I can't stand when someone comes in here and feel the need to type rude stuff to people. I'm grown. If the topic seems pointless like others then allow it to die off and not reply to it if you don't have anything respectful to say. Rude people I yell you. But thanks to the ones that have some type of respect when replying. Smh
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another reason Moto was quick to release froyo was the fact that they only have to test it for one carrier, Verizon. Samsung needs to test froyo for all the carriers that offer the Galaxy.....which is basically all of them.
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w00t!
Hang the OP time!
The galaxy S phones kick all others to the curb.

I agree unlike others. Froyo has been out since may... they need to get on it. Call me impatient and in gonna agree.... hell even cm6 is taking ages..... yes I'm impatient again.lol

I can't wait for the day we get FROYO on the vibrant. Then the forum can fill up with the "Where's my Gingerbread" threads,

The one thing I hate more than a redundant question is all of the replies that point out the obvious fact that the OP is asking a redundant question.
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jeremiah_mn said:
I can't wait for the day we get FROYO on the vibrant. Then the forum can fill up with the "Where's my Gingerbread" threads,
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Just give me some Zeppole and let's be done with it.

I love when I got onto the forum, there was a topic IDENTICAL to this right next to it.
It's fine that you wanna post w/e you want... but the "opinions" you wanted are right there, check those out first.

simple solution for those who "can't" wait
return your Samsung device and purchase a device that has Froyo, maybe the Nexus one or whatever else has Froyo already out for it.
Problem solved.. then you will have to find the next thing in life to complain about.

rsfaze said:
return your Samsung device and purchase a device that has Froyo, maybe the Nexus one or whatever else has Froyo already out for it.
Problem solved.. then you will have to find the next thing in life to complain about.
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maybe you are not well informed but, the n1 is no longer for sale to the general public, and the ones found in the developers market are back ordered....
I love my vibrant, but its kinda upsetting that my 8 month old phone did so many things better than the phone with the best hardware on the market.

Support for rom and modem DK05 (Community)

I'm posting this in hopes of creating a thread pertaining to the issues being discussed in DK05
Feel free to post any issues that you may have came across. I personally have had no issues whatsoever with flashing this rom and modem combo. Except the LockScreen lag. LETS FIX THIS!!!! I will also post my Quadrant Scores, and FPS2D scores. The GPS locks have been MUCH more accurate and faster to lock as well.
Link to thread of rom we are discussing "INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844659
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I love how the evo scores higher, mainly because of JIT i'd assume. I have an evo as well and man is that thing slow as hell. Every aspect of the Epic is faster and Quadrant is a joke.
If you're coming here to flame don't do it. I don't want it and we don't need it. So do us a favor and grow up.

Ranger093 said:
I'm posting this in hopes of creating a thread pertaining to the issues being discussed in DK05
Feel free to post any issues that you may have came across. I personally have had no issues whatsoever with flashing this rom and modem combo. Except the LockScreen lag. LETS FIX THIS!!!! I will also post my Quadrant Scores, and FPS2D scores.
Link to thread of rom we are discussing "INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844659
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Nice Ranger Glad to see modem is good for you .And hopefully that dk17 rom they addressed the lag problem on the lock screen .wow developers should have fixed this by now!!

Alcon1198 said:
Nice Ranger Glad to see modem is good for you .And hopefully that dk17 rom they addressed the lag problem on the lock screen .wow developers should have fixed this by now!!
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I believe the issue of the lockscreen lag has perhaps been fixed however its simply not being shared. My aim is to attempt to get the community moving on improving this near perfect build of DK05.

i installed it, but the lag is too much for me.. deleted this rom until a fix will come...

Ranger093 said:
I believe the issue of the lockscreen lag has perhaps been fixed however its simply not being shared. My aim is to attempt to get the community moving on improving this near perfect build of DK05.
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I really hope that everyone here at XDA can start to get along. I thought this was supposed to be a team effort. Well, that doesnt seem to be the case, at times.. SAD... But with that being said, installed and flashed fine for me, but it's way too early to tell... Thank you for taking the innicietive to start a thread on some support for DK07..
On another note, Hey Noobnl, whats up with the JiT for 2.2? I sure hope your cooking something up something nice for us!!

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question on the updating modem with odin
So far this DK05 ROM and Modem is working great. I can confirm the GPS has improved. I can now get lock indoor and it is more accurate too. Thx
My question is in regards to the modem (odin). If I have to reflash the DK05 ROM with CW Recovery, do I need to redo the modem by using odin again?
thanks!

Apparently DK05 is old news already lol
(( DK17 ))is amongst some of us now
we need to be talking about that

No you do not, the Modem is COMPLETELY seperate from the .zips now because Clockwork mod cannot flash modems currently.

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Apparently DK05 is old news already lol
(( DK17 ))is amongst some of us now
we need to be talking about that
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We're working with what we got man. I know that DK17 is somewhere but people won't let us develop it. :/

Why waste time on a beta, when it's becoming pretty apparent that the official release is not too far away?
This is just a huge waste of time, to get a jump on 2.2 a few weeks early. You've waited this long, whats keeping you from waiting now?

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Why waste time on a beta, when it's becoming pretty apparent that the official release is not too far away?
This is just a huge waste of time, to get a jump on 2.2 a few weeks early. You've waited this long, whats keeping you from waiting now?
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The fact that its taking even this long for 2.2 to come out in the first place. This is a JOKE. Samsung must have maybe one person working on the release, and if these leaks are any evidence they haven't made a whole ton of progress. We also got Samsung needing to update the kernel still. So I'd say we have more than a couple weeks of waiting. Maybe a month? Well either way, I want a jump now. Especially if it helps us create kernels for 2.2 or something, its about getting a jump on something before it even releases. You learn something.

Who said there isn't a 2.2 kernel running around for us? There probably is, he just didn't release it, infact...doesn't the original have a kernel with it? We just don't have the source so we can't make our own..could be wrong but who knows.
I agree, it's pretty beat that we've not got 2.2 officially yet, our time will come. I'm saying by the end of the year

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No you do not, the Modem is COMPLETELY seperate from the .zips now because Clockwork mod cannot flash modems currently.
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Thank you Ranger!!

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No problem and XTAC yeah I know what you're saying. But a headstart is always something! I'm really interested in 2.3, maybe they're working on that hahaha

Ranger093 said:
The fact that its taking even this long for 2.2 to come out in the first place. This is a JOKE. Samsung must have maybe one person working on the release, and if these leaks are any evidence they haven't made a whole ton of progress. We also got Samsung needing to update the kernel still. So I'd say we have more than a couple weeks of waiting. Maybe a month? Well either way, I want a jump now. Especially if it helps us create kernels for 2.2 or something, its about getting a jump on something before it even releases. You learn something.
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I agreed. For one, I am extremely happy and grateful to have the DK05. The modem itself (with the improved GPS) is well worth jumping even if the official Froyo is one week away (I am just saying). The GPS lock & accuracy is day and night.

This thread is pointless. DK05 has known bugs and issues. DK17 will be out soon enough. I'm getting ridiculously peeved at the number of non-development threads in the development section. Not only that, Ranger88 stop spamming half the other threads with links to this utterly mindless thread.
We've all been waiting for froyo for weeks. You can wait another week or 2 at this point. You can't create kernels etc because we don't have the source. Sit your impatient ass down and stop spamming the forum.

Next is going to be 3.0 (gingerbread) which, tbh...will just be a marketing scheme meaning..just the new phones will get it for a while then MAYBE we'll be lucky enough to see it on our end.

Dj29, dk05 an dk17 all use a different kernel from what 2.1 used. We just don't have the source code for it (and won't until after release)
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Gingerbread is 2.3 now. Honeycomb is 3.0 (fyi)

4G in ROM's is a deal breaker for me...

So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...
Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.
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There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.
/MINDLESS RANT

I love 4g too but Myns warm z is too good not to use! I use 4g for slingbox and playon... We'll see how long I can last without it

why don't you just develop your own roms then?
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thier are a few roms that 4g. like sprintlovers rom.

Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?
Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.
Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.

Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.

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Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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thank you based god

an explanation
4g and hdmi are built into sense 1.0. So if a rom is sense based it has 4g working. If its asop (cm, miui not really asop but kinda ) or sense 2.0 like warm z then those things dont work. BUT as was stated team win developed a way to use 4g on cm roms. Theoretically this could spread to other roms such as how using the camera spread from cm to miui ect.... who knows soon because of the hard work of these devs all roms will have 4g. So just enjoy and stop complaining about things you get for free.

lol i read it the same way, i thought he was just pulling humor from the people saying they won't use a custom rom due to no 4g.
You will find in due time that as of right now, 4g is just a meh unless you really do use it. I lived in 2 cities that have 4g, Orlando and Raleigh and when I got my phone, i was just like you. omgggggg 4g or i won't use!!!11
But in all seriousness, there hasnt been many occasions where i actually needed it. Sometimes when I wanted to view or show a youtube video in high quality and I wasnt in a wifi area... and that's all I can really think of. But like mentioned above, if you want to keep 4g on, your battery will suffer. So regardless, if i'm paying for it or not, i'm not really using it at all. It's like 5% of my usage.

Phillysphinest1 said:
So ladies, Gents & phone enthusiats alike...
Dont take this is as much as a complaint just looking for like minded folk to collectively vent. I love flashing and tryin different roms/mods/themes just as much as the rest of you but one of the things i come to check 1st in a ROM are the "Known issues/Things Not Working" section. Seems as though the majority have 4g/hdmi NOT working. Idk bout the rest of you guys but i purposely bought a 4G PHONE TO BE 4G and nothing less. Simply put i cant fathom even downloading a 4g-less ROM.
There are only a few out there with it actually working....and some of them frankly suck. I wish i had the patience/time/know-how to develop my own. I do however appreciate the efforts of the gracious folk that put in their time to make all this possible. So to you guys specifically.....PLEASE I BEG OF YOU NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT (which im sure it is) PLEASE INCORPORATE A WORKING 4G IN YOUR ROMS TO COME.
/MINDLESS RANT
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You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?
Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
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matt2053 said:
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Am in Chicago...haven't chosen a 4G Rom in a while.
4G's a crock for me. Its only significantly faster with a very strong signal (which is less than half the time). And its a bigger crock indoors. So plain not worth it.
(I don't go speedtest apps btw (4G always looks good there)...I use some standard sites and measure the time it takes to download..
4G sucks.

I should say SPRINT 4G sucks. T-Mobile speeds much closer to 4G capability.
Will be breaking contract to take up Galaxy SII or LG this spring.

Since you're feeling quick to judge and critique... I'd like to remind you that 3G data connectivity and WiFi are BUILT INTO ANDROID.
4G on the other hand, has to be completely built by scratch by the ROM developer.
I don't deny the value of including 4G in a ROM, but please know that a developer might spend hundreds of hours trying to get it working / writing it from scratch.

eliporter said:
thank you based god
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Lmmfao.... spoken like a tru NT'er
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This post has nuting but fail in it...noones paying developers to do what they do...You developers rock and don't have to do anything with their roms just cuz you want them too.../end rant lol
p.s. CM is asop and just reverse engineered wimax that by itself is a a epic achievement and they do these kinds of things cuz they want to../end 2nd rant lol

I too want try out Warm Z but Im gonna wait until it has 4g. Kings Ultra is just fine right now, been rocking it since monday.

wingzfan said:
Is it just me or does the title and the image both suggest he doesnt want 4G yet is demanding it be implemented?
Now onto the post. Frankly I couldnt give 2 s#@$s about 4g since I dont have it in my are nor will it be here for at least a year. Also a TON of people dont care either even if they do have it because its a battery hog.
Soooooooo, instead of demanding something thats not possible, create your own rom with 4G or accept what there is and be frickin happy you have an option over the stock crap in the first place.
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Obviously your NOT very good at reading. If you were you'd see that i clearly said this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant. And i also gave praise to guys that dedicate their time to develop these thing. Sorry dude...your post was unneeded. Read carefully next time.
IOInterrupt said:
Try out CM7 nightly build #6, which just got WiMax added today.
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^^Thanks, i'll do that^^
matt2053 said:
You realize AOSP roms have to reverse engineer and completely build from the ground up drivers that do the same thing as those manufactured by a multi billion dollar corporation. And they have to do it at night after they get off work. For free. You do realize this, right?
Also your timing couldn't be worse as CM7 now officially has 4g. And yes they built it themselves.
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Again a NON-reader. I clearly stated that i understand building 4g from scratch wasnt a 2 second process. I also CLEARLY stated that i give props to all the guys that spend their time doing this. I even wish i had the time to do it on my own!!!
You guys PREACH reading but cant read a simple post or even distinguish a simple complaint from a rant to save your lives. Its all good tho!! Love you ****ers & this board!!!!

Phillysphinest1 said:
this was NOT a complaint. Merely a rant.
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Um, what's the difference between a complaint and a rant? If there is a difference at all, isn't a rant worse than a complaint?

There are TONS of ROMs with 4g to choose from. Also, just b/c you say something isn't a complaint, doesn't mean you can just say anything after that and it won't be perceived as one.
Kinda like:
"with all due respect, Mr Dennit ... I had no idea you had gotten experimental surgery to have your balls removed"

[Q] Pace of ROM development?

If this question just irritates anyone, mods feel free to delete it.
I'm curious at what is holding up the pace of ROM development for the Shift? There have been some nice quality ROMs out so far (BCNice in particular, some great work), but it seems like development has stalled slightly. Is there something that HTC hasn't released yet, or some major firmware hurdle?
Remember, this is NOT a complaint about the devs, far from it, just curiosity.

I here where you are coming from. I don't have a shift I have an evo. But if you really feel that strongly about it you should try just making your own. When I was using sense rom's that's what I did. I was able to customize the rom how I wanted put in what I wanted and so on. You should try that.
And please don't see this as me flaming you or hope this didn't offend you in any way, just a suggestion.
Sent from my dark WiMax infested CM7 Super...Mario...Saiyen...Street Fighter...oh yeah SuperSonic.

If you hang out in IRC you may get a different impression. Toastcfh is working his ass off.
^ Shift Faced

I had thought about that, but it's not so much that I don't like the ROMs available, it just seemed like development abruptly slowed down, and I was curious why.
EDIT: This was @caguirr4, btw

jesusice said:
If you hang out in IRC you may get a different impression. Toastcfh is working his ass off.
^ Shift Faced
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Oh, I'm not debating how hard the devs work...they do great work and once my money situation settles I plan on donating to several of them.
I was just wondering if they had hit some kind of a development roadblock, like I saw when I had an Epic and Samsung refused to release the kernel source.
Sorry if I was mis-understood...this thread was never meant to be a shot at any of the devs.

jtguf87 said:
I had thought about that, but it's not so much that I don't like the ROMs available, it just seemed like development abruptly slowed down, and I was curious why.
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Ohhh. I see. Yeah I don't see that kind of a stand still in the rom development for the evo I mean heck we have an influx of roms in our development section. But I say just give it some time. The shift is still a fairly new device. And I am sure that when it happens it will be like someone opened the flood gates.lol.
Sent from my dark WiMax infested CM7 Super...Mario...Saiyen...Street Fighter...oh yeah SuperSonic.

caguirr4 said:
Ohhh. I see. Yeah I don't see that kind of a stand still in the rom development for the evo I mean heck we have an influx of roms in our development section. But I say just give it some time. The shift is still a fairly new device. And I am sure that when it happens it will be like someone opened the flood gates.lol.
Sent from my dark WiMax infested CM7 Super...Mario...Saiyen...Street Fighter...oh yeah SuperSonic.
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i do believe the holdup is a fully working recovery. the ones we have are....temperamental....to say the least. but patience. all good things have yet to come
in the mean time, feel free to pick up a .zip and start developing...you never know unless you try

Hang around IRC. Good stuff going on in there. Still some beta stage stuff (which works quite well), but before you know it, they'll be here.

I like a lot of what has been done. When we get to the point of a fully working 2.3 I'll do cartwheels...and I can't do cartwheels...
Either way, you get the point.

I was just about to pose this question as well. I have the Evo and my brother has the Evo shift and I was curious about the rom development support. I hope someone is able to do a One Click Root as well since i'm really not comfortable not using it.
Would love to see Myn's roms on here, cm7 and miui on here. We both would definitely donate.

I also wondered what happened. It was like we got S-OFF and the kernel source and people tinkered with the phone for 2 weeks and just stopped.

yokken said:
I also wondered what happened. It was like we got S-OFF and the kernel source and people tinkered with the phone for 2 weeks and just stopped.
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I posted a link for a kitchen in the general section..you could start there and be the next jesusfreke or bcnice
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The kitchen is nice to play with. Ive tinkered with it a lil bit but dont really have enuff knowledge to try and put out my own rom
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mcarrion78 said:
The kitchen is nice to play with. Ive tinkered with it a lil bit but dont really have enuff knowledge to try and put out my own rom
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There are posts on xda to cover almost everything..of my knowledge there is nothing over coding...but may be a few things about making kernels and the sort..not flaming bout anyone..just a huge peeve of mine to hear people complain without a better suggestion..I did like the idea of contributing an evo to cyanogen to get some dev work out of it but people rush something only a limited people have knowledge over so why not educate yourself
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kinda in the same boat here about the rom develoment. I mean i had an evo since the first day then switched to the shift i was hoping for little more rom support.I mean i geuss the evo had everyone developing for it, Just hopeing bnice can update his work. anybody if hes working on it? his muiu work on the evo wa phenemonal and would love to have a better dezire port

With you attempting to do cartwheels, now I see how you got your screen name. LOL!

wireless.praying.mantis said:
With you attempting to do cartwheels, now I see how you got your screen name. LOL!
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Well played, sir.

willing to test this rom out? i'm still working at it..it's 60% droid x style.I'm currently running it now.
as any other roms you flash.You must wipe to factory settings clear dalvik cache and wipe cache partitions and the rest then flash the rom.
link: DOWNLOAD
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jesusice said:
If you hang out in IRC you may get a different impression. Toastcfh is working his ass off.
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I think the OP is questioning exactly what everyone's been up to. Care to shed some light on where he's heading (Sense 2.0, CM7, etc)

Was wondering the same thing. Keep checking here everyday and nothing.