Database Users

Bragging Rights: WIP-XDA-Dan Wager-UnRevoked-Sebastian Krahmer, Rooted OTA 2.2

Seems that the Droid 2 method will work on EVO fryo 2.2.
Please wait to have it verified. The second link is a guide.
As always, be aware of the potential to damage your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764950
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
Imagine... Notoriety, Respect, Recognition of your work, all because YOU found the way. Your work will result in rooting thousands of phones. Mention of you in the Android wiki. Forever revered in the Android Hall of Fame.
People who have waited to join the ranks of rooted EVO users, will now be able to fully enjoy their purchase (my son amongst them).
Your Forum of choice recognized as the vehicle of android development, for all to see. Sprint's customer base increased, as people recognize that they aren't dead headed.
Everyone wins, especially Sprint, but YOU will be the Super Hacker !

What the hell are you talking about bro ?
Just be patient. LOL
I have 2.2 also, but it really is not the end of the world.
Man you guys are really impatient, but then again this is america. People wany everything to be a quick fix. And every one thinks they deserve everything and they are the most important person in the world.
After all the threads I have read, you EVO guys are the funniest.
Sent from my phone bone

and I wonder why it takes 5 minutes to find a thread I want to check up on.......

Rocafellanerd said:
What the hell are you talking about bro ?
Just be patient. LOL
I have 2.2 also, but it really is not the end of the world.
Man you guys are really impatient, but then again this is america. People wany everything to be a quick fix. And every one thinks they deserve everything and they are the most important person in the world.
After all the threads I have read, you EVO guys are the funniest.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would you say he is being impatient? If you really did read threads you would know that the evo was hacked (rooted) before it even got released to the general public. So i would have to say that he is not being impatient, but rather curious as to why 2.2 hasnt been rooted yet considering how fast it was hacked in the first place.

Rocafellanerd said:
What the hell are you talking about bro ?
Man you guys are really impatient, but then again this is america. People wany everything to be a quick fix. And every one thinks they deserve everything and they are the most important person in the world.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree ^_^b

Rocafellanerd said:
What the hell are you talking about bro ?
Just be patient. LOL
I have 2.2 also, but it really is not the end of the world.
Man you guys are really impatient, but then again this is america. People wany everything to be a quick fix. And every one thinks they deserve everything and they are the most important person in the world.
After all the threads I have read, you EVO guys are the funniest.
Sent from my phone bone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank You!
This is for my son who recently contracted EVO-itis and every other EVO user who is not able to fully use their purchase.
I kept my 2.1 root through Netarchie and KingX (BFS #3).

willy900wonka said:
Imagine... Notoriety, Respect, Recognition of your work, all because YOU found the way. Your work will result in rooting thousands of phones. Mention of you in the Android wiki. Forever revered in the Android Hall of Fame.
People who have waited to join the ranks of rooted EVO users, will now be able to fully enjoy their purchase (my son amongst them).
Your Forum of choice recognized as the vehicle of android development, for all to see. Sprint's customer base increased, as people recognize that they aren't dead headed.
Everyone wins, especially Sprint, but YOU will be the Super Hacker !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will happen! I think the delay is because of all the focus going towards perfecting the cyanogen mod, unrevoked forever, and not to mention the crazy kernel battle that is going on. It will happen, who knows maybe you will be the superstar that cracks the code...

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

dustindavidson900 said:
It will happen! ... maybe you will be the superstar that cracks the code...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! I couldn't hack my way out of a wet paper bag. Though I do think I have the God given right to. LMAO

willy900wonka said:
Thank You!
This is for my son who recently contracted EVO-itis and every other EVO user who is not able to fully use their purchase.
I kept my 2.1 root through Netarchie and KingX (BFS #3).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
fully use their purchase? are you kidding me?
i dont want to generalize, but what? skinz? themez?
does your son NEED to flash roms? NEED root? Doubtful. im sure the majority of the people here dont NEED root, but more so WANT it, myself included.
Before i go off on a rant about the general populus. Just wait. The phone was rooted before it was released to the general public because it was released at a DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE.
Meaning, a ton of generally smart people were together in a small space for a few days and they wanted root. They got it. the root was probably a oversight on the development side of HTC.
Just because you can get root once or twice very quickly doesnt mean it'll always happen that way.
POR EJEMPLO: Sonys ps3 still hasnt been hacked. Ive been waiting a very long time.
Its been hacked. now thats just a ****ing pisser for my analogy. Hackaday-Link
Patience, most people need to learn it.

dhMassacre said:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Incredible OTA was postponed :
gbhil roid Incredible Froyo update not coming today, Verizon says on Twitter | Android Central http://t.co/Esbvksv

nenn said:
fully use their purchase? are you kidding me?....
Patience, most people need to learn it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SO Who's phone is it? Sprints or the owner? OOPS by definition the owner. Sprint sells access rights to their network.
You are right, in that choosing the Sprint EVO was not wise?

willy900wonka said:
SO Who's phone is it? Sprints or the owner? OOPS by definition the owner. Sprint sells access rights to their network.
You are right, in that choosing the Sprint EVO was not wise?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im not about to get into a pissing contest.
my point is, without the WONDERFUL people we have here developing MANY people wouldnt have root.
If you want root so damned bad then learn the operating system/programming/debugging/tracing/exploting/system calls/kernel development and find the damn exploit yourself or STFU.
Im thankful there are great people here making this phone better and better. If you cant wait then GTFO.
Im off to read about how the ps3 was hacked. Have a wonderful day.

nenn said:
im not about to get into a pissing contest.
... STFU.
...If you cant wait then GTFO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK? Have a wonderful day. LMAO!!
Do I need to justify my non-sprint POV where I feel that the owner owns. The network provider provides access.
Now I don't know much about exploits, but the issue is the checksum code which prevents users from flashing known exploits which will work. The superuser mode is built in to the processor. DUH!

nenn said:
fully use their purchase? are you kidding me?
i dont want to generalize, but what? skinz? themez?
does your son NEED to flash roms? NEED root? Doubtful. im sure the majority of the people here dont NEED root, but more so WANT it, myself included.
Before i go off on a rant about the general populus. Just wait. The phone was rooted before it was released to the general public because it was released at a DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE.
Meaning, a ton of generally smart people were together in a small space for a few days and they wanted root. They got it. the root was probably a oversight on the development side of HTC.
Just because you can get root once or twice very quickly doesnt mean it'll always happen that way.
POR EJEMPLO: Sonys ps3 still hasnt been hacked. Ive been waiting a very long time.
Its been hacked. now thats just a ****ing pisser for my analogy. Hackaday-Link
Patience, most people need to learn it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the ps3 analogy is still legit i would say. i guess technically its been hacked, it still cannot run backups which would be the only reason to hack it in the first place. plus the hacker, geohot, has given up on the project. (supposedly)

yea though this is kinda hijacking the thread. I dont consider the ps3 hacked until you can burna g ame and play it from disk or hdd with out having to have had the origonal disc to put it on the hdd.
as for the root stuff. no one said you didnt owner your phone. i think he was scoffing at the fully use his purchase aprt as he can use every feature of the phone stock ... you just cant get all the extra goodies like better battery faster speeds etc.
anyway i am sure it will happen. people dont understand that the way root happens is that an exploit or ug has to be found to get by security. this changes and each new one found is ussually fixed in the next OTA. as time goes on it becoems harder and harder. it can take weeks and months to find an exploit that lets you use get the ability to root. I know every oen is anxious but give it time. I mean droid X has been out how long and you cant install custom roms yet on it ... we are lucky with evos.

I have 2.2 rooted, guess you shouldn't have did the ota!!!

omegasun18 said:
yea though this is kinda hijacking the thread. I dont consider the ps3 hacked until you can burna g ame and play it from disk or hdd with out having to have had the origonal disc to put it on the hdd.
as for the root stuff. no one said you didnt owner your phone. i think he was scoffing at the fully use his purchase aprt as he can use every feature of the phone stock ... you just cant get all the extra goodies like better battery faster speeds etc.
anyway i am sure it will happen. people dont understand that the way root happens is that an exploit or ug has to be found to get by security. this changes and each new one found is ussually fixed in the next OTA. as time goes on it becoems harder and harder. it can take weeks and months to find an exploit that lets you use get the ability to root. I know every oen is anxious but give it time. I mean droid X has been out how long and you cant install custom roms yet on it ... we are lucky with evos.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually the ps3 can now play back up games off the hard drive or a fat32 external with the introduction of this new mod chip. It's just a usb stick that plugs in, no soldering or opening the ps3

...Another pointless and bickering laden thread. XDA used to be a decent place, but now? All I see is *****ing and moaning everywhere.
Some minor points of etiquette:
1. If you don't like the post, don't comment in it.
2. If you are making a post, make it in the proper section (this barely qualifies)
3. If you MUST comment, make it constructive, and topical, rather than whining.
4. Always use that search key prior to posting.
If people would follow those simple steps (and they used to, I have no idea what happened around here in the last 4-5 months, to be honest) XDA could go back to being a decent place to collaberate. But I don't really expect it to happen.

smw6180 said:
...Another pointless and bickering laden thread. XDA used to be a decent place, but now? All I see is *****ing and moaning everywhere.
Some minor points of etiquette:
1. If you don't like the post, don't comment in it.
2. If you are making a post, make it in the proper section (this barely qualifies)
3. If you MUST comment, make it constructive, and topical, rather than whining.
4. Always use that search key prior to posting.
If people would follow those simple steps (and they used to, I have no idea what happened around here in the last 4-5 months, to be honest) XDA could go back to being a decent place to collaberate. But I don't really expect it to happen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not XDA's fault for the *****y, whiny Android users that come here. Got to the Windows side of things and you'll find a MUCH more professional atmoshpere...
Now stay on topic, or we'll just close the thread for being useless...

Is the epic development thread dead?

We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening

Maybe we need to pony up the cash and buy a dev an epic.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

Quit your yappin. Its not dead, devs are just waiting for a better working Froyo leak.
Android Central: We know everyone out there is waiting on Froyo for their Fascinates, Epics, Captivates, and Vibrants. Samsung has given the carriers their code, and the carriers are testing. We are waiting on them now.

Are you serous? There are devs still here, and they are busy. The only true dev? were you using andromeda before froyo came out? Why don't you be patient until the official froyo is out, the work is coming! Its hard to develop a rom without thee source code and no one is putting their time into 2.1 this late?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

It's not that the dev community is dead. It's more like the calm before the storm. the anticipated official release of froyo is what everyone preparing for. Some are busy cooking roms for the leaked releases while some are digging into other similar official releases to hopefully get a jump start for the epic release.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

orpheostelos said:
We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why are you even posting this here? This should be in General!! You posting this here alone tells me you dont know what the heck your talking about!!! The only "true" Dev? What the hell are you talking about? Theres plenty of awesume Dev's here!! A lot more than you think!

I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.

ragnarokx said:
I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah people dint apriciate his work enough,sht I would leave too if people were saying that im withholding roms,so what if i am witholding roms?arent they mine to begin with?and sharing them on xda is a privilege.

Ok I may be wrong about "the only true dev thing"...I just want to understand why our community is isolated from each other...just take a quick peak at the facinate thread,a phone that came out almost a month after the epic...the development area its going smothly there. Even our own carrier has left us on the backdoor...how many updates had we have ...2....compare to 8 0r 7 on the EVO.

ragnarokx said:
I've been worried about this as well. While "the only true dev" might be an exaggeration, noobnl was one of our greatest assets. Isn't his Eclair ROM what basically all other ROMs are based off of? How about his Andromeda kernel? One-Click Root? His work with ClockworkMod Recovery? CyanogenMod? I'm hoping collectively all our amazing devs can fill his ginormous shoes. His innovations gave us so much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One-Click Root: A script. Very simple. The hack on the adb daemon (rageagainstthecage) that it uses works on every > 2.1 Android phone and was done by a brilliant dev at c-skills.blogspot.com I believe.
Andromeda: Another kernel. Mine wasn't based of his at all. Devins is based off mine, and possibly a few of noobs tweaks haven't checked. Hero's wasn't based on it. Not sure about fluffkernel or any of the others.
Clockwork: Point for you. He did get the ramdisk working with it, but koush did most of the work on the final version.
Cyanogenmod: WesGarner's work for the Vibrant, but with an Epic kernel & ramdisk.
Not saying he didn't do anything, but I AM saying that people blow everything out of proportion without realizing how simple some of it is, either from ignorance or just misunderstanding.

It's the holidays. Cut them some slack.

orpheostelos said:
We have lost our only true developer...we probably have about 2 or 3 working roms in total....and everytime someone tries to add something new they either get trashed or treated like crap by this so called "community"..i really wish this was more like vibrant or captivate threads...but i guess its not happening
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are lots of great developers/modders on the EPIC forum including noobl. Right now, without the final release of FROYO and without FROYO sources, everyone is on a standby.
For the 2.1 ROMS, EPIC Exp and Syndicate are both great 2.1 ROMS. There are several great 2.1 kernals as well. With so many great 2.1 options, not much more that can be tweaked that is truly interesting.
If you're interested in playing with beta 2.2 roms, there are few great options there as well. In fact, within 24 hours of the DK18 leak, there were three ROMS to choose from. Not bad.
Regardless, you'll see this forum pick up pretty quick after the final release of 2.2 and 2.2 sources.
Of course by the time 2.2 comes out for EPIC, google will release gingerbread and everyone will be asking when gingerbread will be coming out for EPIC. Not going to hold my breath for that one.

I came from the hero and that dev community was amazing. The debs here are great but it definitely isn't as exciting as I feel the hero rout experience was. I recall thread suggestions and devs quickly entering with an affirmative answer or why it wasnt possible. I made a simple request about the vanilla lock screen and never heard anything. I do love what the devs have done though.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

OP = Chicken Little

While this community is great it seems deadcompared to the evo community but I blame samsung for this and them taking there sweet ass time pushing out 2.2...if its not out by december 5th I'm selling my epic for good and will stick with my evo
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

imtjnotu said:
if its not out by december 5th I'm selling my epic for good and will stick with my evo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Might as well get a head start now. Not trying to spread doom and gloom, but that date will sadly come and go before we see Froyo.

entropism said:
Might as well get a head start now. Not trying to spread doom and gloom, but that date will sadly come and go before we see Froyo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please tell us the reason for that is Samsung is actually trying to fix all the issues..and not them implementing say bloat ware or being slackers,,right?

Selling your EPICs or switch them back for the EVO won't help minimize the problem that we have here....we need to think of a way to get the drama out of this forums ....to keep it clean of negativate things, come on pleople...this isn't the place to start whining cus your girlfriend dumped you or cuz you personal issues with yourself....we all have different reason to be here....beta testing, developing, to improve our phones or even to mess with it up to point we either break our phone or make them better than anybody else's

A lot of what you guys are seeing is vert similar to the moment community. When I had my moment things always got dramatic. I think it was mainly out of frustration towards sprint. You see it even now there are rumors that froyo is being pushed back but sprint won't say a damn word either way and in the end they will conduct themselves in a way that will make epic owners feel slighted their pr dept must suck. I say e ask ban together and make this pioneer great because like with rhett moment spring isn't going to make out great our dev's are going too. And fyi i don't think noob will ever be gone he just went underground. He's working behind the scenes he loves deving too much
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

orpheostelos said:
We have lost our only true developer...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Rage Against the Carrier and Samsung Machine

Hey Guys,
Just wanted to share a pretty heated thread over on the Captivate Forum.
Please post your comments and show your support!
We need to band together and stick it to the man!!!
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958214
Thanks in advance

I really hope you get what your looking for, but I am not sure what that is exactly... I must decline though.. I have a life, and have already wasted about 20 seconds of it typing this.
Thanks for thinking of us though.
jcabibi said:
Hey Guys,
Just wanted to share a pretty heated thread over on the Captivate Forum.
Please post your comments and show your support!
We need to band together and stick it to the man!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=704
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

What's the thread you want us to see...?
You just posted the link to the Captivate's General Section, not any thread.

He probably means the "Communicate with Samsung" thread over there. There's a lot of Samsung hate flying around in there.
I hope Samsung really is trying to move in the right direction. Only time will tell how it pans out, though. The best thing we can all do is use the communicate with samsung page to ask as many good serious non-trolling questions as possible to try to impress upon Samsung what we think is important.

Yeah sorry about the wrong link. edited OP

We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

It's not about froyo... It's about the bs PR stunt they are pulling and the possible loss of XDA credibility!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

jcabibi said:
It's not about froyo... It's about the bs PR stunt they are pulling and the possible loss of XDA credibility!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, well thats just stupid then. You need to wait and see what SamsungJohn brings with "phase 2" and beyond. Then pass judgement. I dont like how he went about what he is doing and I have voiced that fairly well, but to call it a bs PR stunt is probably premature. And what credibility is XDA going to lose even if this is a PR stunt? Developers are going to stop using XDA because they got hoodwinked? Not likely.

muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been curious about the timing of all this. Is Sprint trying to save face because they've been the hold up? Or is Samsung trying to steal Sprint's thunder on xda? Or is it simply a coincidence?

DiGi760 said:
I've been curious about the timing of all this. Is Sprint trying to save face because they've been the hold up? Or is Samsung trying to steal Sprint's thunder on xda? Or is it simply a coincidence?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.

But they do feel the pressure... XDArs may only be 2% of consumers, but we are the ones that family and friends come to for advice. Our voice carries a lot further than one would think!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

muyoso said:
Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lets not forget, t-mo users at xda forced their froyo update with threat of class action lawsuit...
Sent from my last samsung phone using tapatalk.

muyoso said:
Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're right. I just told my wife she might get an update next week called FroYo and she said what's that I'm not gonna lose my contacts am I. LOL
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now

ungovernable1977 said:
Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I doubt very highly that they'd offer us free anything, except maybe a kick in the behind. Also, discounts on sgs2 just doesn't seem very likely either. I'm just hoping for transparency regarding source code and MAYBE drivers, but not holding my breath.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't hold your breath! The Captivate crowd had Froyo released today only to have it pulled about an hour later.
.

ungovernable1977 said:
Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like you. You think EXACTLY like I do!!!

aleph23 said:
Lets not forget, t-mo users at xda forced their froyo update with threat of class action lawsuit...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. Just taking a logical guess, I'd wager the more likely scenario is that T-Mo's GS phone had less proprietary carrier 'issues' such as TouchWiz on our side to have to work the kinks out & 'play nice' with. I'm relatively newer with Sprint from that angle, but in my AT&T history I know all too well how they like to cater things to how they want them and/or limit them.

Closed thread encouraging flaming and a duplicate of many other threads.

You guys are awesome.

Whats up guys ...
Hope you all enjoy Gingerbread it seems to be close to release and comming along pretty good ...
I also want to thank the Devs and all of the people who's hard work goes into making Kernels, Themes, Roms,How to videos ...
This has been my favorite forum (even with its ups and downs -_- )on XDA all of you guys are awesome
Thanks!! for making the epic a truly Epic phone.
Keep up the good work guys hope you guys enjoy what time you have left here.
before i leave though ...
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I got one for each of you

Thanks! ................

Great post
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

Where you going? There are still treats to be had!

I approve this post.

The Root said:
Where you going? There are still treats to be had!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...

iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol I'm sorry your going to have a hard time there, so many trolls heading that way
Sent from my SPH-D700

iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stay here! We know you here. Lol
Sent from my Epic 4G, awaiting official gingerbread

I won't be going to the Within, but I'll be sending decent people there.
Sent from Godot's place.

The Root said:
I won't be going to the Within, but I'll be sending decent people there.
Sent from Godot's place.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its amazing the maturity of the people on the Epic forums compared to the Evo forums ... it's ridiculous

woot woot!

Ditto on the Within. I haven't truely made up my mind just yet (although I hate the screen, cams and battery life on the evo3d). I don't get my upgrade til September (epic release date) after calling Sprint about premier gold vs silver (thanks again guys!) and my plan is to wait about a month (if necessary) to see what Cyanogenmod prospects look like on both platforms. If the within has good progress at least being made, within for sure. But if it's a small dev community (don't get me wrong, ours is certainly quality over quantity ) again working on a very different us variant with issues, it may be enough to make me take the Evo3D. I love its resolution like you wouldn't believe, but I think the screen looks like crap because of the 3d surface on top of it. Plus qualcomm crappy battery life, 720p 5mp only cameras... should be interesting!
I don't think I'm alone in saying though the epic taught me a very valuable lesson. Never buy on release day. Its hard I know but the epic is great, we've STILL got great devs hard at work, and gingerbread and flash look better than on a mac (which almost always suck with fash). I'll wait it out a bit. If I upgrade it'll be mostly for software support, mods and a bit more running ram for multitasking.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

This is basically my thoughts ... i think im going to wait ... but you can order the Evo 3d online now ...
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onli...es?phoneSKU=APX515CKT&ECID=vanity:ftbredbud29

compuw22c said:
Ditto on the Within. I haven't truely made up my mind just yet (although I hate the screen, cams and battery life on the evo3d). I don't get my upgrade til September (epic release date) after calling Sprint about premier gold vs silver (thanks again guys!) and my plan is to wait about a month (if necessary) to see what Cyanogenmod prospects look like on both platforms. If the within has good progress at least being made, within for sure. But if it's a small dev community (don't get me wrong, ours is certainly quality over quantity ) again working on a very different us variant with issues, it may be enough to make me take the Evo3D. I love its resolution like you wouldn't believe, but I think the screen looks like crap because of the 3d surface on top of it. Plus qualcomm crappy battery life, 720p 5mp only cameras... should be interesting!
I don't think I'm alone in saying though the epic taught me a very valuable lesson. Never buy on release day. Its hard I know but the epic is great, we've STILL got great devs hard at work, and gingerbread and flash look better than on a mac (which almost always suck with fash). I'll wait it out a bit. If I upgrade it'll be mostly for software support, mods and a bit more running ram for multitasking.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mystery's ability to do what he did with froyo makes me wonder what we'll get from ACS regarding GB. This release was sick. It's the froyo we were all seeking. I think we're on track to see our phones rise as their reliability continue to cruise. I know people still joining older phones for cost reasons. We'll have another wave enter our community down the road. It's all cyclical. The Within crowd will be demanding before they learn patience. Be strong, grasshoppers.

That reminds me, in preparation for my trip to Amsterdam and Germany I was updating my old TP2 (for the sim card slot, last year I got 6.5-7mbps on vodafone germany, for ten euros for the month prepaid! Way faster than 3g sprint, kinda funny). They still have active development going on! Its awesome, I love the community! June 6th for the rom, then they've got a very nice froyo (and somewhat unstable gingerbread) in both nand flash or haret boot. Amazing. That and the wpa-supplicant ad-hoc hack for the epic and I'll be tethering my epic to the tp2, google voice and skype, ten euros prepaid internet and I'll be good to go! Did I mention I love the community?!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya, getting the 3d on friday. But I've noticed to, to many a-holes on evo threads.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw that post... I think everyone there will be a lot nicer once they actually get their phones.

readingkeeper said:
I saw that post... I think everyone there will be a lot nicer once they actually get their phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They're already backordered (gives me an excuse not to be with them)... so im not getting it Samsung Within it is then ...

iSaint said:
They're already backordered (gives me an excuse not to be with them)... so im not getting it Samsung Within it is then ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would wait, a little longer for better phone

davidrules7778 said:
I would wait, a little longer for better phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea i don't really have a choice now ... my mom spent the money i saved up for it ...
She said she'll pay for the Within.. so $200 and im guessing the Within will be more .. so im making interest

SamsungJohn is back

So SamsungJohn is back and since the Vibrant has not received an update to Gingerbread I think we might get a final answer as to whether not we are getting it.
(I honestly couldn't care less I'm happy with my phone but it would be nice to know for sure).
So SamsungJohn, do you have any information like you did with Froyo?

vibrant gets ICS in 2 days

reuthermonkey said:
vibrant gets ICS in 2 days
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
screw ics, we're jumping straight to honey bun

bfranklin1986 said:
screw ics, we're jumping straight to honey bun
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Errr.... We're getting Mold Bread
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

sahil04 said:
So SamsungJohn is back and since the Vibrant has not received an update to Gingerbread I think we might get a final answer as to whether not we are getting it.
(I honestly couldn't care less I'm happy with my phone but it would be nice to know for sure).
So SamsungJohn, do you have any information like you did with Froyo?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wait how do you know he's back has he been posting lately?

xriderx66 said:
Wait how do you know he's back has he been posting lately?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291758

sahil04 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291758
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea sorry to burst your bubble, but im pretty sure his big announcements are going to be to announce upcoming nexus devices.
I doubt we are going to see an official Gingerbread release for the vibrant because it doesnt just pop up over night, an official release require extensive testing, the likes of which usually result in leaks or at the very least somewhat substantiated rumors. If you recall in our wait for Froyo we saw countless leaks over the span of several months.
I for one cannot wait to see the announcement for the prime and other nexus devices. Im through with carrier branded devices.

shreddintyres said:
Yea sorry to burst your bubble, but im pretty sure his big announcements are going to be to announce upcoming nexus devices.
I doubt we are going to see an official Gingerbread release for the vibrant because it doesnt just pop up over night, an official release require extensive testing, the likes of which usually result in leaks or at the very least somewhat substantiated rumors. If you recall in our wait for Froyo we saw countless leaks over the span of several months.
I for one cannot wait to see the announcement for the prime and other nexus devices. Im through with carrier branded devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh I already know that the big announcement is probably in relation to the upcoming Nexus device. What I was talking about is post #15 where he says:
Thanks Chainfire, please do stay in touch. As for me, I'm going to check out some of the XDA Samsung forums and see what's been going on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Vibrant is a Samsung device so I thought he'd come in here and people might be interested in getting a definitive answer whether or not the Vibrant will be getting updated or not from a legit source.

sahil04 said:
Vibrant is a Samsung device so I thought he'd come in here and people might be interested in getting a definitive answer whether or not the Vibrant will be getting updated or not from a legit source.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah my bad, i only read the first page :x lol

I got his attention:
SamsungJohn,
I'm not meaning to harrass you at all, but is there any way you could shed some light on whether or not the Samsung Vibrant will be getting a gingerbread update?
It has been in question for a long time now, seeing as the other SGS devices got it... we are all kind of wondering why it was left in the dust. I mean, Gingerbread improves on the CPU the Vibrant is equipped with, bringing it to its full potential more-so than Froyo.
I, and many others purchased the phone on a 2 year contract with updates in mind. Its only a year old phone, it seems kind of rude that it has already been abandoned (if that is the case) I know you don't make all the decisions there at Samsung, but If you can see it from our point of view, could you maybe speak with someone that does have control over the situation?
I love the Hardware, beautiful screen, and Samsung in general... But please John, tell them they are going to lose future customers if they drop phones after such a short amount of time. It irritates people who bought a phone with the SGS label, and already people are seeing it as inferior to device to those of the same timeframe, such as the G2... Because HTC has kept the phone updated and their customers happy, Many of them will return to HTC for their next device.
Thanks for your time, and being a part of this community.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
His Response:
Hello imitebewrong,
I haven't heard anything about the update for the Vibrant. As soon as I get some valuable information I will let you know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Seriously I'm not hoping anymore, I'll just be disappointed anyway.
I just hope we'll be have a port of custom rom ICS.

Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).

SamsungVibrant said:
Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Way to contradict yourself.

SamsungVibrant said:
Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol! Samsung is quality and there notches above everyone else and everyone knows that. Plus we have XDA for updates in my opinion
Sent from my SGH-T959 using xda premium

Maybe your energy should be focused at Tmobile, who had proven track record of not providing updates.
I do believe that going with non carrier based phones is the correct track.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium

SamsungVibrant said:
Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No.
Sent from my SPH-D710 Galaxy S II [suck it]

I am not sure what SamsungJohn's official title or job is but he is certainly not in customer relations. He has never given a decent straight forward answer. I almost think I would rather have a lower quality phone that gets updates than a high quality hardware phone that never gets updated.
I love my phone but not releasing updates has made me think my next phone and tablet will not be a Samsung device. I have a 2.2.1 wifi Galaxy Tab that has never seen an update and a Vibrant with only one update. And to be fair, the update to FroYo on the Vibrant was something that it should have shipped with to begin with. To compound the issue we get no response or time frames on any updates. That is just horrible customer service.

Thanks for the hardworking of T-mobile or Samsung,
I wont get any Android products without "Nexus" in their ass

I will stay with T-mobile because it suits my current needs. 2 lines $130, unlimited un-throttled data on both; but I will never buy another phone that is not Nexus.
I almost rather be the douche with an Iphone, know it's being locked down, have less features, etc, but know I will have a working gps and support in 6 months. Being able to make calls....well they are all just holding the phone wrong anyway.

adamcooks said:
Maybe your energy should be focused at Tmobile, who had proven track record of not providing updates.
I do believe that going with non carrier based phones is the correct track.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm really not sure when people are going to get it. It's Tmobile to blame, not Samsung.