My desire z is real jerky (compared to my brother's desire) when scrolling through the app drawer. Especially when it gets to the easing at the end... I have seen a thread about specific desire Z's being a bit more laggy than others, but how is this possible...
OC to 1.2GHz didnt fix it.
Linpack scores = 44
Quadrant = 2100
I dont think these scores are too bad, and scrolling through the homescreens as well as opening and closing apps is really smooth. Its just the scrolling through the app list thats jerky and I think it is pretty annoying.
Which ROM are you running exactly ?
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Which ROM are you running exactly ?
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It is not ROM specific, I had this when the phone came right out of the box. Now im running villainROMZ 1.0 and its the same. I thought it had to do with the launcher (on my good ol' G1 it went a lot smoother when using LauncherPro) but its not on my desire z.
Have you installed tons and tons of extra apps ? I've added about 10, and my app drawer scrolls without any problem (on the original stock UK ROM). I've seen people talking about it lagging on some of the custom ROMs though.
no extra apps. first boot on stock ROM since i unpacked it and it was already laggy.
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no extra apps. first boot on stock ROM since i unpacked it and it was already laggy.
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Was it just setting up initial stuff, syncing with Google etc though ? I think you need to allow it to settle down.
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Was it just setting up initial stuff, syncing with Google etc though ? I think you need to allow it to settle down.
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i did , i let it run for about a day and after settling down its still not as smooth as my little brother's desire. I can live with it though, its just weird it does that. Everything else runs as smooth, if not smoother.
The other thread is about a guy who's Desire Z is made in China and runs slow as well. Mine's made in China too.
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i did , i let it run for about a day and after settling down its still not as smooth as my little brother's desire. I can live with it though, its just weird it does that. Everything else runs as smooth, if not smoother.
The other thread is about a guy who's Desire Z is made in China and runs slow as well. Mine's made in China too.
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I wonder if it's something to do with the Asian ROM ?
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I wonder if it's something to do with the Asian ROM ?
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yeah this was discussed before, but i find it hard to believe. Why would HTC make a ROM for the same phone, but laggier. Makes no sense at all.
Elegy said:
yeah this was discussed before, but i find it hard to believe. Why would HTC make a ROM for the same phone, but laggier. Makes no sense at all.
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Maybe it's a long shot, but it could just be through a mistake, they obviously wouldn't do it deliberately. Like any bugs in the shipping ROMs.
Hey friend,
My DZ is made in Taiwan and I too feel that it lags while scrolling through the apps menu, contacts etc..
I was just going to root my phone inorder to flash the VillainROM.. but now, after reading that it doesn't solve the problem, I will wait for a different solution I guess..
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Hello all,
For the life of me I cannot find the thread that got me started in this direction. Someone in the forums here was talking about how they switched to the default android home vs sense and it sped up the phone.
Well, I tried it for a few days and jesus christ is it fast. I'm not going to rant, but without sense ui, this sprint hero running modaco 1.3a is a completely different phone.
Anyway, this has brought me to one of the toughest decisions in my life. I LOVE the look of sense. We all know it is painfully beautiful, and the widgets are beyond perfect too.
I think I already know the answer to this, but I will ask anyway. Is there ANY way to get the HTC widgets to run on the stock android home, or does sense have to be running? I would kill for the the mail and calendar widgets back. Even if I had to buy them. I was unable to find anything as good in the market. Also, is there anyway to get more than 3 home screens without sense?
I am so torn between using a slow phone that is beautiful, or a plain phone that is quick. Form follows function right?
have you checked "beautiful widgets" in the market? they are made to resemble the htc widgets on non-sense phones, never looked at them myself though.
No, beautiful widgets are only the weatherclock and the switches WiFi,BT etc.
You can't use original sense widgets without sense. There's no way.
I've used Rosie remover. At start the Hero was very fast, but a few days later it was as slow as it was with sense.
Now I'm going with my sense again. The look and feel is awesome and the speed not much slower than without it.
I didn't use rosie remover, I might look into it. I just cleared the defaults on HTC Sense and chose "Home" as my default (and force closed sense). I don't see it starting itself back up again but I will play more close attention to it.
I am kind of curious if there is anything you did after using rosie remover to make it slow. My phone isn't just slightly faster without sense, it is a different beast. I used to scroll through any list on my hero and it would move at a very low framerate and it was REALLY choppy. Since killing sense it is smooth as silk.
I tried everything too. I read the articles about NOT killing apps, I tried killing apps too, I tried installing several class 6 cards, I did all the location fixes and even got rid of anything that wasn't crucial (including widgets i never used). Oh, and also I tried almost every rom. Nothing made it more than just "ok".
Killed sense and other than missing the widgets, it is super fast. The keyboard even rotates about 2 whole seconds faster.
Any suggestions, maybe I did something wrong or am forgetting something. Modaco 1.3a with default android home for a week now and it hasn't even started to slow down. (Not sure why it even would.)
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Modaco 1.3a with default android home for a week now and it hasn't even started to slow down. (Not sure why it even would.)
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i hope this is a typo, modaco is beta testing version 3.1 as we speak, so you should be at 3.0 right now! otherwise this might explain your speed problems...
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i hope this is a typo, modaco is beta testing version 3.1 as we speak, so you should be at 3.0 right now! otherwise this might explain your speed problems...
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1.3a is the latest Modaco rom for the Sprint (cdma) Hero.
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1.3a is the latest Modaco rom for the Sprint (cdma) Hero.
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ok thanks for clearing this up. i thought something like this, but on modaco's page it still says 1.1 is the latest (i actually looked it up before accusing you of typos! ), so this got me confused...
I do that stuff all the time; thinking people are crazy talking about some rom or radio and then I remember that the gsm and cdma heros are completely different in terms of development timeline.
So I think I am going to do this (god i wish there was a benchmark). I am going to run the stock android home for a while and completely remove rosie. I keep hearing that it starts up on its own in the background and I know you can run both at the same time.
Actually, I am running both right now and even with sense running in the background, while I use the android home it is still faster.
It almost feels like my hero is not fast enough for sense. Any suggestions? Maybe I will try the new Fresh 1.1. I had fresh 1.0 and i didnt like it. A lot of force close errors and just felt really "Hot Topic" if anyone catches my drift.
Anyway, we will see. If anyone has suggestions on speeding up sense I would love to hear it. It is almost impossible and USELESS to scroll through my contact list using sense because it is so skippy.
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IIt is almost impossible and USELESS to scroll through my contact list using sense because it is so skippy.
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Then there may be a problem with your phone (or you have many thousand contacts!).
I have a UK (GSM) Hero running stock ROM and sense. My contact list scrolls smoothly - I have probably 250 or so on there and I can give it a flick and watch them speed smoothly by until I get to the one I want when I can stop it with my finger.
Yep, not me. Running the stock rom (and a few modified roms) I was unable to get my contact list to scroll smoothly at all. I think I will make a video of it to see if anyone else can compare.
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Yep, not me. Running the stock rom (and a few modified roms) I was unable to get my contact list to scroll smoothly at all. I think I will make a video of it to see if anyone else can compare.
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Would be worth using the dedicated cdma users forum to ask other cdma phone users whether they have the same problem. My phone is GSM and that might make a difference (although I doubt it). And my son also has a (GSM) Hero and his scrolls well too.
Ok, I will try it. Watch me get accused of double posting now
i think it might be your phone.. has issues....
I am on CDMA Hero...
have it rooted.. and MoDaco 1.3....
Class 6... 8gb sdcard
both my contacts and music.. scroll supper fast.. and does not.. lag....
contacts.. I have over 150
muisic.. I have over 600
NO issues.....
you might want to take it in to vendor for replacement....
I played with a Samsung Galaxy S (Bell phone at a Canadian Best Buy) and I was amazed at how fluid all the menus were. Everything was so smooth. "Smooth" is the word I want to use because I'm not sure how else to explain it.
To use a video game analogy it looked like it was running at 60 fps vs 30 fps. So it wasn't faster...but smoother.
I'm trying to figure out why it's so much smoother than the X10.
Is it the screen? (Super AMOLED)
Is it the A8 processor?
Is it Android 2.1?
Any ideas?
Maybe a combination of the OS 2.1 and the GPU advantage over the X10. I personally think it is mainly the GPU performance over the X10.
Is the 2.1 and Samsung customization.
Is 'fluid' the word you're looking for?
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One of my mates has a galaxy s and another has a nexus one. I find both of these phones to be equally "fluid" and as the nexus one has very similar specifications to the x10 I am more inclined to say that it is all to do with the firmware.
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mainly it's because of 2.1 firmware!
I'm eager to see 2.1 or even 2.2 on X10.especially with SE customizations an UI.
untill you've owned one for a while.
every phone seems great the first time you use it. I used a desire running froyo the other day and found it to be crap. scrolling was jittery, browser was slow when loading flash sites, and the ui was not intuitive in the least.
I really wish the samsung/htc trolls would stop clogging up our x10 thread.
mods, please close this thread, it's pointless
Ya, I think fluid is the right term. It was really nice. Not sure about the phone styling (still prefer the x10) but the "fluidity" was great.
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every phone seems great the first time you use it.
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This is part of it. The X10 was awesome in the store. get home, add a lot of apps, music, widgets, contacts and it tends to slow/studder a bit. I'm not sure if other phones are like that too - but a bare phone in the store always seems to be fast/smooth.
you prob played with an extremely "clean" phone. I mean how many apps? how many contacts? did u happen to try the gps ?
any phone (even my htc s710) runs nice out of the box, but fill it with apps, contacts, background tasks, etc start running it will slow down.
as well, im sure the firmware will have something to do with the speed
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To use a video game analogy it looked like it was running at 60 fps vs 30 fps. So it wasn't faster...but smoother.
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Because that's EXACTLY the case.
Everything on the X10 runs at 30fps max.
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Because that's EXACTLY the case.
Everything on the X10 runs at 30fps max.
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i do not see the relevance?
since a Blu-Ray movie has 1080p res and 24 FPS.
I can tell you from experience that once you've loaded up a decent amount of things on the Captivate that it's not so fast. It plays games well still, but the system gets pretty laggy.
Hmm, well ive used a galaxy s too, i didnt notice a difference, but since the update to 026 my phone has been super smooth anyway. No lag or jitters at all...
I don´t think im the only one who experienced that problem. If i install a new rom, the rom is smooth as butter. But if i use it a few days, it starts to lag. I tried the most Launcher (ADW, ADW EX, Stock, Launcher Pro, and so on) I got only google services running in Background. I´ve also experienced it without installing any new apps on my DZ. I think, if is spend so much money for a device, it has to run fast without any lag (i´m not talking about games, only the gui). I tried with and without overclocking, I tried Sense and AOSP Roms...
At the beginning everything runs like hell, and 4-5 days later its not that snappy as it should be. I always did a full wipe before installing a new rom and dont even restored my apps and settings with titanium backup.
If someone suggest my things i could try to speed my device up it would so great. And no, i dont use a tast-killer.
Thank you
How fast do you keep your phone clocked? If I have mine set where it is able to go below 806 I find it does lag some. So I keep it at 1017.
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How fast do you keep your phone clocked? If I have mine set where it is able to go below 806 I find it does lag some. So I keep it at 1017.
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Ive clocked it always on 806 or higher.
Then I really have no idea my friend. Hmm, no bloatware? No apps using crazy amounts of CPU?
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Am running MIUI and its pretty snappy. I never use task killer and never been slow. Lol I have about 80 apps installed.
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Unusual... I'm running stock with LauncherPro, and the only time I get any real lag is when I'm using a 3D live wallpaper. Switching to a static image fixes that instantly. And that's with Twidroyd, Trillian and Touchdown running in the background. No task killer, they seem to do more harm than good aside from getting rid of outright hung processes.
I know exactly what you mean, man. I will try a ROM and be in love with it then like a week later it starts lagging like a sunuvabitch. Launcher pro has helped a bit.
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I have no lag whatsoever on cm7
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
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I don´t think im the only one who experienced that problem. If i install a new rom, the rom is smooth as butter. But if i use it a few days, it starts to lag. I tried the most Launcher (ADW, ADW EX, Stock, Launcher Pro, and so on) I got only google services running in Background. I´ve also experienced it without installing any new apps on my DZ. I think, if is spend so much m........
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I just bought a G2 and still really fast with Virtuous ROM. Before i use Samsung i5700 (Spica), and almost the same thing, phone became laggy every 2 weeks. What i did is the following:
1. boot into recovery mode (CWM)
2. advanced -> wipe dalvik cache
3. restart
and viola phone start to be fast again. However i read somewhere in this forum that wiping dalvik is not recommended tough.. but hey..it works for me, so why not
Thanks for your Replys
If the rom starts lagging, i wiped dalvik cache alread to see if it helps and it doesn´t
Miui is a Problem for me cause i only can use the old miui from q´n´d cause its the only miui rom i got my german language pack & keyboard working and im not a big fan of miui. I would love to run the stock g2 rom, but it also has no german language built in and the only stock g2 rom wich works w/o problems on dz is the rooted one where my german keychars on hw keyboard doens´t work...
Also i got no process running in background wich uses more than 2-3% cpu at all. my logcat also doesn´t show something that could cause the lagging. I´m not using a live wallpaper, a taskkiller or something that way.
TJBunch1228 <- I got exactly the same
How often are you guys rebooting your phones? I had a similar issue, started rebooting my phone every night, and wa-la, it works awesome with no lag.
I use an app called CT Scheduler. It was free on the market, but I don't think it's there anymore. I'm sure there are others, this one lets me specify a time for the phone to reboot. I chose 2am (while I'm sleeping).
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How often are you guys rebooting your phones? I had a similar issue, started rebooting my phone every night, and wa-la, it works awesome with no lag.
I use an app called CT Scheduler. It was free on the market, but I don't think it's there anymore. I'm sure there are others, this one lets me specify a time for the phone to reboot. I chose 2am (while I'm sleeping).
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I reboot my phone every day. I charge it turnd off and power it on every morning.
Now i found my problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-950250.html
That means android take a lil while to know whether the screen is touched or swiped, this produces a noticable "lag" when swipe between homescreens. Now i have to find a way to reduce the time for android to notice that.
If someone could tell my the path or the variable where this is stored.
Thanks
b1oh4zard said:
Now i found my problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-950250.html
That means android take a lil while to know whether the screen is touched or swiped, this produces a noticable "lag" when swipe between homescreens. Now i have to find a way to reduce the time for android to notice that.
If someone could tell my the path or the variable where this is stored.
Thanks
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Got it fixed now. I pulled HTC Calibration.apk from a Rom and installed it on my DZ and now my screen is much more responsive cm7 with adw runs like a charm again I hope it doesn´t "slow" down anymore
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Got it fixed now. I pulled HTC Calibration.apk from a Rom
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Please be kind and give me a hint.
Where can I find the apk? (Path?)
We all know Android has that 'lag'. Is your phone laggy?
I've done everything and my Play is still laggy
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We all know Android has that 'lag'. Is your phone laggy?
I've done everything and my Play is still laggy
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Just got Xperia play today and I'm dissapointed majorly with it.
I have a Droid X and it never lags
running GummyJAR minimal ROM. 1ghz TI processor 512 ram.
Never misses a beat
I got this loaded crap Xperia and the thing is the slowest android device i have ever messed with. even slower then my friends Ereader. How can this be possible.
I agree the XP is a laggy machine
No lag here, 2.3.4 stock carrier free firmware. Rooted. Nothing frozen. Stock sd card.
I've had it for about 8 months now. Deleted all of the bloatware, deleted the useless apps. Cleared cache every time once in a while and still.
Switching between Sony Home 2.0 and LauncherProPlus(using the two) and still.
Same as swebosdev. No lag on 2.3.4. Everything from menus to transitions to most games have been silky smooth. Especially since I got launcherpro.
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Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
I'm running stock ROM, used root explorer to delete all the bloatware and lag free... things pretty snappy. Then again I'm on Verizon and its running stock vanilla gingerbread, well minus the crapware Verizon installed..... but yup pretty fast. And now that I have it overclocked to 1.4ghz zoom. But it was fast even before. Have you tried deleting the bloatware? Made my phone so much faster. That and supercharger script. Those are the two I would recommend as a must. Bloatware gone and run the supercharger script. World of difference.
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No lag here - using stock launcher.
The stock web browser is pretty slow though, but I use Opera Mobile which is supposed to be hardware accelerated and it is visibly much smoother than stock.
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Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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I have no reason to bs you, im very happy with my phone.
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Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
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Reflashed twice in 3 days. Deleted everything I didn't need. I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if they're experiencing lag on their PLAYs.
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I have no reason to bs you, im very happy with my phone.
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It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
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Reflashed twice in 3 days. Deleted everything I didn't need. I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if they're experiencing lag on their PLAYs.
It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
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My last phone was a Desire HD and my play is much faster and less laggy. Infact the only time it lags is if im installing apps from the market.
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I've tweaked my XPlay's performance a lot, and as long as nothing is downloading in the background, it's super fast (especially because of DooMKerneL)
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It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
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You could be right as phones tend to last years for me. My previous phone was a bb9700, i passed it down to the wife so i could buy this one.
Have had it since may, never been a single issue with errors or lag.
Thats not to say im out of the performance loop as my focus was and still is in tablets. Done alot of work with froyo, webos,Maemo.
Yes my phone does lag occasionally, but for basic functions like Texting, calling, etc.. It's fine. I just installed the v8 supercharger script today so I will see if that helps.
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do you need the bootloader unlocked to install the v8 supercharger script or just rooted?
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do you need the bootloader unlocked to install the v8 supercharger script or just rooted?
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Rooted and with busybox installed (look in android market for busybox installer). Busybox version between 1.16.2 & 1.18.2 are recommended I believe.
EDIT: Pretty sure it's v6 also, not v8. Unless that's a new beta or something
I just installed the script myself, it does seem to make my phone a bit snappier!
No lag here for me. Go to Settings -> Applications -> Running Services and check how many processes are listed there, I only have 4/5.
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Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
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Actually, one has every right to complain that it comes essentially broken out of the box unless you void your warranty. AT&T in particular crippled the phone so much that it became unusable after allowing a few included apps to download their files and installing a couple more apps from the market, assuming you set up Facebook and all the accounts during initial setup like a good little user. It's because they only left 100MB of internal storage available and run an absolute crap-load of processes in the background. Granted, it may not be the phone's fault, but you should not have to void your warranty or be some XDA-guru to use it.
Looks like facebook messenger is the problem
If anyone here is dubious or HATES the offical somewhat intrusive Facebook app should check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-facebook-browser-t2864561
A very well made minimal Facebook brower app - that does away with alot of crap, give it a try :good:
What drew you to this conclusion?
I reset my phone using safe mode everything was uninstalled as soon as I installed messenger lag was back
Funny how everyone complains about lag but I don't have any on my device ... Guess I'm the lucky one
2SHAYNEZ
I have to say I read this post thinking man what a daft suggestion. Turns out uninstalled messenger. Can't get the phone to lag at all.....before I was getting redraw on the homescreen everytime and laggy scrolling always!
Nothing improved. :/
Ya, I don't get the whole complaining of the lag issue. I'm sure it's installed apps that they keep sync on all the time.
I removed the stock keyboard and launcher and it's running as smooth as can be.
Well I was really surprised, my Nexus 5 is massively fast in comparison. Having a said that since removing messenger it's easily as fast as my Nexus if not faster.
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Well I was really surprised, my Nexus 5 is massively fast in comparison. Having a said that since removing messenger it's easily as fast as my Nexus if not faster.
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Stock Android is almost 100% of the time faster than these custom manufacturer shells
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Stock Android is almost 100% of the time faster than these custom manufacturer shells
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Of course! I've been using Nexus devices exclusively for a good while for this reason but just loved the G3 too much!