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I'm half way through my 2nd day using Android on my HD2 and this thread is for me to say what issues i've found. Not to complain, just because most of them may have fixes or other people may have the same issues. These ROMS haven't long been out and i'm sure the developers here will fix many issues.
ROM: NRGZ28 Energy ROM
Radio: .12
Android Build: Desire v5
Battery Life:
Compared with WinMo, Android appears to be less optomised on battery. I put the phone on a full charge at 7pm last night, at this time(10:25am) with very little use, 1 3 minute call and a quick check on Facebook) the battery only has 50% left just over
Unresponsive Screen:
Occasionally the screen will stop responding, however pressing a hardware button usually clears the problem up
Photo Uploading:
I took 2 photos yesturday and went to upload them to Facebook, however the progress bar stays at 0% on the notification bar and no way to remove it
No Mic/Audio:
I've made another thread for this and I found the problem, with my Windows Mobile ROM it doesn't automatically load CLRAD.EXE before HaRAT.EXE, so when starting up the phone, i have to take out SD Card, use File Explorer to start CLRAD.exe, put SD Card in then launch HaRAT.exe
I've heard changing to the Titanium WinMo ROM fixes many issues compared to Energy so I may try that tonight
your rom should be fine to run android.
desire v5 is not the best choice, cause its one of the first builds.
you should take an new build before doing anything else...
if you like sense, give mattc 1.6 a try. if you not like sense take a look at darkstones newest froyostone.
there have been many many kernel updates since desire v5 was released. you will notice a huge difference in speed and response...
Bimme said:
your rom should be fine to run android.
desire v5 is not the best choice, cause its one of the first builds.
you should take an new build before doing anything else...
if you like sense, give mattc 1.6 a try. if you not like sense take a look at darkstones newest froyostone.
there have been many many kernel updates since desire v5 was released. you will notice a huge difference in speed and response...
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Thanks for the tip, I may try Mattc 1.6, is that 1.6 the version of the ROM or is it Android 1.6?
Actually wait a bit on mattc 1.6. It currently has issues. mattc 1.5b is my fulltime build right now. I haven't used WinMo in 2 weeks. As a matter of fact, I'm going to load on a light version of WinMo, like Chucky's. Why have a bloated WinMo when you're not using it?
geon106 said:
Thanks for the tip, I may try Mattc 1.6, is that 1.6 the version of the ROM or is it Android 1.6?
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I said to you to upgrade as desire is an older build. In regards of clfcad it should be on your SD card in the android folder along with haret so why is it stored elsewhere? Plus you always have to click clrcad before running haret unless you use an android launcher like mskips which does this automatically.
So OP other than your experiences with highly known problems. What was your experince with android overall.
Did you like it? Did you use it to is full potential? Did you try out the new voice search? What did you think of qik? or any other note worthy apps?
I know you are probably already aware but I just wanted to say
these things.
The battery life improves with use of setcpu. Considering the phone was never designed to run android I am ok with it.
Unresponsive screen is solved right now by disabling screen rotation.
there is also a slight delay built in I believe.
Uploads were a big problem untill the recent ppp fix.
You shouldnt ever have a problem with sound running aslong
as clrad.exe is being properly ran.
I wanted to address these because I believe android on the hd2 needs a fair chance. If we dont take into account these minor flaws we wont see the greatness.
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I said to you to upgrade as desire is an older build. In regards of clfcad it should be on your SD card in the android folder along with haret so why is it stored elsewhere? Plus you always have to click clrcad before running haret unless you use an android launcher like mskips which does this automatically.
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Those files are in the Android folder on the SD card, but I thought the WinMo ROM as it has a button built in to launch Android would be scripted to run CLFCAD.exe and HaRAT.exe automatically, wrongly assumed on my part though.
hmm, mskips you say? May give that a go.
Yeah i've been told by a few people to upgrade the Android rom i have, the reason I started with this one is because i figured the HTC Desire is a similar phone to HD2. I'll try in a bit a new WinMo ROM and Android ROM but with the same radio
hazard99 said:
So OP other than your experiences with highly known problems. What was your experince with android overall.
Did you like it? Did you use it to is full potential? Did you try out the new voice search? What did you think of qik? or any other note worthy apps?
I know you are probably already aware but I just wanted to say
these things.
The battery life improves with use of setcpu. Considering the phone was never designed to run android I am ok with it.
Unresponsive screen is solved right now by disabling screen rotation.
there is also a slight delay built in I believe.
Uploads were a big problem untill the recent ppp fix.
You shouldnt ever have a problem with sound running aslong
as clrad.exe is being properly ran.
I wanted to address these because I believe android on the hd2 needs a fair chance. If we dont take into account these minor flaws we wont see the greatness.
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Don't get me wrong this isn't me complaining about it. I knew there would be "niggling" issues of course.
Well personally, I love it. I want to use it as my main OS. It is suprisingly stable, it looks good, it runs reasonably well(i.e above issues). I love the Android Marketplace, i've given Layar a go(which runs well and is fun) i enjoy Latitude and using it with Google Buzz.
I am hugely grateful for the work people are putting into these ROMs, its fantastic and as they get improved and issues get fixed well, I can imagine great things
sorry I didnt mean to imply anything. I just wanted to see what you enjoyed. I am glad to see you are enjoying it.
I knew these guys were smart so i bought it even before I knew about the project.
Dreams really do come true lol.
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sorry I didnt mean to imply anything. I just wanted to see what you enjoyed. I am glad to see you are enjoying it.
I knew these guys were smart so i bought it even before I knew about the project.
Dreams really do come true lol.
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I agree, I will be keeping a close eye on the ROMs and as they get improved more and more, our experiences with Android will only get better. Right now i'm experimenting with different builds to see which one suites me best
Hey guys and gals. i'm done with BakedSnack. it started out well, but it's gotten so laggy that it's simply not usable. so i'm looking for suggestions for a new rom.
so far i've tried two OMJ's, three BakedSnack, a real early DamageControl and an early Fresh.
basically i'm looking for all the standard hardware(wifi, 4g, cam, etc) to continue functioning. i'd also like decent battery life(a whole day is more then enough) i don't want to lose my 50fps unlock. i'm also looking for something optimized for performance. apps opening and closing smoothly and quickly, screens animating smoothly and most importantly no lag while using swype(that happens now with BS and it's giving my all kinds of strange phrases when i try to type)
can someone suggest some new roms? and yes, i know i could go read through dozens of postings and look at features, but id much rather hear about their behavior in the real world.
thanks!!
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Hey guys and gals. i'm done with BakedSnack. it started out well, but it's gotten so laggy that it's simply not usable. so i'm looking for suggestions for a new rom.
so far i've tried two OMJ's, three BakedSnack, a real early DamageControl and an early Fresh.
basically i'm looking for all the standard hardware(wifi, 4g, cam, etc) to continue functioning. i'd also like decent battery life(a whole day is more then enough) i don't want to lose my 50fps unlock. i'm also looking for something optimized for performance. apps opening and closing smoothly and quickly, screens animating smoothly and most importantly no lag while using swype(that happens now with BS and it's giving my all kinds of strange phrases when i try to type)
can someone suggest some new roms? and yes, i know i could go read through dozens of postings and look at features, but id much rather hear about their behavior in the real world.
thanks!!
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Calkulin's EViO is what you're looking for. It's located here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745205
that looks really promising! but do i need to install a new kernel? i'm currently running bakedsnacks latest and i'm worried that it's part of my speed problem
Honestly, if Baked Snack is lagging, you might have a different issue. Lag issues are a lot of time related to your kernel. Try flashing Netarchy's latest (not the beta but the stable one...I forget the numbers) and see how that goes. I've tried almost all of the ROMs but haven't found anything as good as BS.
it started out awesome, everything was slick and zippy. now, about three weeks in, it takes nearly 45 seconds to get handcent to open. then when it does open, i have to wait 15-20 seconds for the keyboard to appear. then it takes a bit for the keyboard to get situated cause as soon as i try swipping, the tracer is all over the place :-/
could it be that the kernel didn't flash properly? maybe if i reflash, it'll fix my speed issues?
This is after you reboot the phone every day?
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yessir. i had to, just to get a little relief.
Have you tried a simple wipe of your cache or davlick? You will not lose valued info and it will speed up your system.
Laggy yea ok, not sure what your doing but its not on the rom's end . I ran 1.7 for while and it was rock stable no lag no stuttering etc etc
As other roms go try them all see what one fits the needs you have
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Have you tried a simple wipe of your cache or davlick? You will not lose valued info and it will speed up your system.
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+1 wipe cache and dalvik and switch to a dif kernel either kings or nets would dobjust fine.
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Sounds like a kernel issue to me also. I was running one of his tweaked "best battery" kernels, and started noticing some lag after a while, so I switched to what was the default kernel in 1.5 and the lag disappeared. Also, if you've been running the same bs for a few weeks, then you probably haven't updated recently (like me). Maybe you'll have a better experience with 1.7.
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no i'm up-to-date. i'm running the latest 1.7.
See my sig with all my rom info and scores. Fresh is working lovely for me, and everything works. While some of the processor scores may be lower than what the Evo is capable of, I don't think those scores are bad when you consider I'm running Sense and I have a bunch of apps on my phone that are always hogging up resources (i.e. Facebook and Facebook for Sense, Lookout, eBay, Google Maps, HTC's mail, friendstream, Scoremobile widget, weather channel app, Swype, and a live wallpaper). These scores were achieved with Fresh's 3.1.0.2 rom, and I flashed the 3.2.0.0 which is based on the OTA that has not been released yet, but I lost many features with the new kernel from HTC that saves battery life, so I flashed king's kernel over it until the devs get a chance to play with the new kernel. All my root goodies are fully functional on Fresh 3.2.0.0 with Kings kernel.
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no i'm up-to-date. i'm running the latest 1.7.
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Switch to a dif kernel? I had a similar issue w one of kings kernels builginh a crazy amount of dalvik thus slowing down my phone, switched to a dif one and problem solved.
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no i'm up-to-date. i'm running the latest 1.7.
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whoops, my bad - see that in the third post. I got thrown off when I saw the comment about it being zippy at first but now you're having trouble 3 weeks in...
Try the wiping and maybe another kernel - say what you will about BS, but Hero does you give you kernel options!
fachadick said:
whoops, my bad - see that in the third post. I got thrown off when I saw the comment about it being zippy at first but now you're having trouble 3 weeks in...
Try the wiping and maybe another kernel - say what you will about BS, but Hero does you give you kernel options!
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i agree with the wiping before and choosing the proper kernel, also what resource intensive apps are you running? maybe you should post a list of installed programs, atrackdog allows you to export.
lastly, you can't shop without your wallet. *runs off*
I'm having no problems with BakedSnack 1.7 and kernel #5. It is the best Sense ROM, in my opinion.
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I tried BS 1.7 on a fresh install today and I was not a personal fan. It would bog down and the camera could not focus for squat. Meh.
I really like evio because it does not resize pictures sent using the standard messaging client, a big bonus imo. Paired with BFS#6 and even though I keep trying other roms, I alwasy nand back to my evio.
How do you manage to get 50 FPS on your evo. i am also running the new fresh rom and i am only getting 30 fps. please advise
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See my sig with all my rom info and scores. Fresh is working lovely for me, and everything works. While some of the processor scores may be lower than what the Evo is capable of, I don't think those scores are bad when you consider I'm running Sense and I have a bunch of apps on my phone that are always hogging up resources (i.e. Facebook and Facebook for Sense, Lookout, eBay, Google Maps, HTC's mail, friendstream, Scoremobile widget, weather channel app, Swype, and a live wallpaper). These scores were achieved with Fresh's 3.1.0.2 rom, and I flashed the 3.2.0.0 which is based on the OTA that has not been released yet, but I lost many features with the new kernel from HTC that saves battery life, so I flashed king's kernel over it until the devs get a chance to play with the new kernel. All my root goodies are fully functional on Fresh 3.2.0.0 with Kings kernel.
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hey guys, i just had a thought. when i first installed baked snack i wiped with Clockwork recovery. now i'm reading reports that it may not be clearing the cache's like it's supposed to. could this be a cause??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
What is special about this build?
- What is special about this build is that the entire Android O/S filesystem is stored in RAM before it is booted.
What does this mean?
- Well, RAM is faster than NAND(ROM) and SD Card which in turn will make the build superfast too! Very fast. Very very fast!
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THIS Build as some who have it on their phones will testify is by far and and away the fastest build to date in Android development there is no faster build that im aware of, i can never see myself going back to "normal" Android builds again and credit must go to Darkstone this is a massive advancement in Android technology, my question is though, isn't there other chefs who can cook builds similar to this?
Merry Xmas to you all
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Dude there's another thread for this:
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872587]
superram is amazing, but i cant seem to charge to 100% straight in android (witch annoys me).
other than that i have it fully functional.
dapoharoun said:
superram is amazing, but i cant seem to charge to 100% straight in android (witch annoys me).
other than that i have it fully functional.
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Have you tried charging fully in WM before switching to Android. This should solve your problem.
I like Sense.. i like sense alot.. Sense means beauty and comfort for me .. I would sacrifise a bit of smoothness for a lot of Sense.. thanks..
Few days ago I copied darkstone's RAM build 1.5 to second SD card just to test it. And I was blown away with its speed. Second boot lasted about 10sec. Difference in speed in compare to any other build I tried is huge. Scrolling through the pages, opening and closing apps.....and the lockscreen is very nice
But I got huge data drops, internet in my case was working very badly. Also like Laynee1 I miss some stuff from sence.
But in any case I think that this is the way for me to go. Waiting for further releases. MDJ's gingerbread RAM looks promising. As soon as GPS is working in it I am switching.
Darkstone's build is working flawless for me so far. No data drops whatsoever. People complain Quadrant scores aren't 2000+, but thats not where the speed is at. It's basically just faster load times, and snappyness.
Also, since I hate Sense, there's no problem there
like i once said, ram builds are like sportcars, fast, no luxury, no interior, naked, raw and pure.. sense builds are the bentleys beautifull, full of gimmicks, just comfort and luxury.. besides that, the ram builds are crazy fast at navigating on the phone, but graphics are still choppy, like there are display drivers missing..
I like sense too but you when you have builds as fast aas this it doesn't matter, no data drops here either very happy with the build indeed
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like i once said, ram builds are like sportcars, fast, no luxury, no interior, naked, raw and pure.. sense builds are the bentleys beautifull, full of gimmicks, just comfort and luxury.. besides that, the ram builds are crazy fast at navigating on the phone, but graphics are still choppy, like there are display drivers missing..
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good description there mate
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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I dunno how good a Sense RAM build would be. Sense is huge and it will kinda fill HD2`s whole RAM memory. I need to have at least 150 MB free on my device for it to run smoothly, and somehow I think Sense would take more than that. Same goes for CM builds, way too loaded. The sport-car comparison previously mentioned is a good one, it`s like trying to add extra scrap parts to a car and expecting it to behave as smoothly as it used to before adding anything.
Besides, ADW Launcher has tons of skins (at least it has some interesting ones, worth checking out) and it`s wonderfully fast and stable.
Something which is completely off-topic but still bothers me: if they managed to run Android off the RAM memory, could they perhaps do the same with WP7? I`d really rofl to see the HD2 running WP7 smoother than the Mozart...
Super Ram Contacts...
Hi guys, ive been using Darkstones Super Ram, for a full two weeks now. Awesome!!! Question, with my gmail acount, i have all my contacts in groups. Why cant i see my contancts in groups? I need to message them for meetings and all that stuff, all in one shot. But i cant see this setting in my Phone. Can anyone help??
Thanks in advance.
a Quick Question,
how to get the Sense UI get to work on this Build? i been searching for ever, Everything else seems to be working So Far,
I have LaunchPro Plus Installed,
So if anyone can help me out, appreciated.
thanks
appan said:
a Quick Question,
how to get the Sense UI get to work on this Build? i been searching for ever, Everything else seems to be working So Far,
I have LaunchPro Plus Installed,
So if anyone can help me out, appreciated.
thanks
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Sense wasn't not included in the rom, it was based off of AdamG's Oxygen minimalistic rom. I don't think you would be able to put Sense over the SupperRAM.
I'm using LaunchPro Plus, and liking it, I miss the better sense widgets though...
Been using SupperRAM for only 2 days now, speed has been great.
I did notice some data drops more than usual. A reboot or toggling phone data on/off has helped this problem.
I'm extremly happy with this build have hardly experienced any data drops and it continues to whizz along at great speed, i actually don't miss sense that much to be honest, when a build is as fast as this for me personally that's the main thing, hoping to see other developers follow suit.
I tried the Super RAM build and I absolutely loved the speed. However, I would also like a Sense build with it (if possible) because then I would be able to sync my Outlook via HTC Sync. I need the sync with contacts and calendar between Outlook and HD2. While google has a program released to sync the calendar to gmail and from there to the phone, they are lacking in the contacts department...
anyone any ideas?
it's fast and has good battery life. those are the things I need the most from a build. i don't know why people torture themselves with the slowness of desire hd builds
duke911 said:
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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There is actually a ram version of CM build made. "HD2ONE v3.6 [CM6.1.1 Stable]" you will need to edit the startup.txt to get your RAM ver.
Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
Cyber Akuma said:
Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
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If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
Linkies:
- Typhoon
- Dorimanx
- DHD Sense 3 - Dungphp
Moon2 said:
If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
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Not a fan of Sense 3.5 over 3.0 personally.
And just how slow is it compared to CM7? I mean, I understand CM7 will be faster than a sense rom, even CM7 with sense hacked in, but as long as its not laggy or sluggish thats fine, I don't need it to break benchmark records and run the latest 3d software.
I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
daedric said:
I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
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Im new to NAND HD2, but not new to the HD2 ( sold my 1st one, just got another the other day ) but I just flashed my first Android NAND ROM and I noticed all thse graphic glitches, i thought it was something else. But apparently its a common problem for everyone? No fix Im assuming.
Anyways im curious what you mean by DHD?
GHetting to performance, HD2 isnt bad at all! Im old time Android owner going back to the G1 and myTouch 3G.If you wanna see degraded performance try flashing a Sense rom on a G1 or 32B device. OWwwo
Well I can recommend Rafdroid rom. Its Sense2 stock froyo. Works mostly well.
So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
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there are roundabout fixes yes
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
rzw said:
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
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Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
HyperDroiD CM7 5.3.0 from Pongster ... my actual ROM ... stable, fast, last gingerbread 2.3.7 ... simply fantastic
nystao said:
Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
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Strange, I can't find that one here:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
I've been using Mikhei777's Android 2.2.1 Sense 2.0 rom for quite some time. It works great and haven't had any problems at all with it. The wifi hotspot works also. Not sure about bluetooth and USB tethering stuff. Don't use them. He deleted a lot of the useless system apps but there is a rar file you can download from the first post that has all of the deleted stuff in case there is something you want to put back in it. I've only put on Facebook and the text to speech stuff. I'm not using an ext on my phone since I have a TMOUS HD2 so, I don't have memory issues. Give it a try. If you don't like it you can always flash something else.
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MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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exactly, wise words...
if you want a good rom with everything working, miui is the way to go. If your friend is not a hardcore techie, he better stays away from those Sense roms. try it for yourself and compare.. but seriously feature wise Sense is so outdated compared to miui (except the htc widgets maybe).
cheers
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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That's why I use PAT's MIUI Rom with Sense launcher. It combines the best of the 2 world's. Very fast,customizable and everything is working like in other MIUI rom's and a very good, customizable launcher with the most important sense widget's.
No graphic glitches, not a disabled GPU acceleration and camcorder with full resolution and without lags. And the newest Android 2.3.7 version.
Use this rom since some month's, will never go back to the slow sense rom's. Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co. But there is already an alternative dialer on the market, probably he can also display the actual feelings (posted in facebook) of the incoming caller and such nonsense.
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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now you have surprised me not sure which version of miui you are refering to, but i am on jan-willems miui and there is zero lag (its butter smooth) on the luncher. basically there are no issues at all.
btw installing a 3rd party launcher on miui is a no go, as it decrases the fuctionality.. people no offense, but you need to read the miui bible
@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
marcusloosewire99 said:
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
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I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
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Yes!
There are missing also the hardware switching widgets (WLAN, Mobile Network...) but all is in the top status bar. You have only the contacts and the calendar widget, but it's enough for me.
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car01 said:
I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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But no hardware acceleration or with graphical glitches, only the new sense kernels should solve this problem. I don't know if there already stable.
How many free ram do you have after start with this rom?
I haven't seen one sense rom thread that doesn't use words like fast, optimized and smooth.
However I've tried randomly some. RCmix, URDroid, mwakiousRUNNINGrom 3.0 and even the latest 6.5.x. Result?
None of them is even remotely as fast as described. Especially if I dare to install more apps than they are already installed. Ram gets eaten up. HTC widgets do their thing and eat most of it.
My only thought is that maybe the devs that state their rom is fast, stable, smooth, flying, vigorous, etc etc just installed the rom, let it settle and that's it.
They didn't try to:
- import 600 contacts
- sync with Facebook
- install facebook
- install yahoo messenger
- sync gmail and one or two more yahoo accounts
- install a few apps (color note, barcode scanner, adobe flash, maps and other utilities as such)
Doing this is a killer combo for all of the mentioned roms.
Some even don't bear with me through the whole proccess and I end up nervously installing a light cyanogen mod rom. They started freezing while receiving a call, the lockscreen sometimes took so much time to load that it passed those 30 seconds until it goes off again, an so on.
So where to now?
Without trying to do another "best rom thread" what is the fastest gingerbread sense rom for you? Please reply only if you have actually used the rom for more than 4 days and synced with facebook, 2-3 email accounts, installed some apps, etc. Bonus points for battery lasting more than one day.
I have seen exactly this problem.. It is mainly sense related.. it's not just on the HD2 either, also on phones that come with android & sense out of the box. Sense just eats a lot of memory.
I used to be a big fan of sense and tried to find a fast stable rom, used to use one made by Mdeejay but he stopped developing it.
After I switched to a CM7 rom and saw the speed of that I never looked back, so for me that is the way to go ^^
Its called ad-ver-ti-sing, where you say good things about your own product regardless of the facts.
samsamuel said:
Its called ad-ver-ti-sing, where you say good things about your own product regardless of the facts.
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Hahaha !!
I second that !!
All sense roms, use all the ram but leave you with about 60 MB (which is not enough for regular usage)
If you go to a monitoring app you'll see that the desktop (Sense Launcher) is already eating 86+ MB of your ram, despite the fact that there are other resources running in the background bracing the launcher AND taking memory .
MIUI and CM7 if you want your device to be fast.
I use Dorimanx' rom, it's the fastest thing alive.
Seriously, of all roms for the HD2 this is the fastest and most advanced one.
As for your other questions.
I use it to sync 3 gmail and 1 exchange account, i have around 100+ apps installed.
I don't have anything to do with facebook or yahoo, but do use ebuddy to chat with people on MSN.
Although i wouldn't know of any way how an app for IM'ing could possibly affect your phone's performance.
It's also a real battery saver, i guess it could run for 2 days on a single charge.
But i'm not really sure about that, usually i charge it when i go to sleep and at that point i have around 60% left.
If you want some tips about the ROM or want some troubleshooting, just contact me.
I'm always willing to bring the delight of Dorimanx to people.
I gave up on Sense too. I have been using Hyperdroid for a few months and haven't found a reason to switch to anything else for daily use.
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I used infected rom eternity for the evo 3d for almost a month, had 7 emails (2 Gmail, 2 yahoo and 3 live), facebook sync, around 45 apps and at least 2 Widgets on all screens and mine was so smoothe it made butter look like rocks lol.!
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NRG has put out a LITE version that I'm enjoying.
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ognimnella said:
I used infected rom eternity for the evo 3d for almost a month, had 7 emails (2 Gmail, 2 yahoo and 3 live), facebook sync, around 45 apps and at least 2 Widgets on all screens and mine was so smoothe it made butter look like rocks lol.!
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Evo 3D has 1GB of RAM, this is HD2.
Sir, what are you doing here?
Ok guys, let's update this thread. Yesterday after failing with most 3.5 sense roms, I started crawling the threads and searching for all of the sense gb 2.3 roms.
I left out all 3.5 roms, all of the sensation xl ones and mostly roms based of newer beasts.
I looked for as stock as possible and also narrowed it down. Then, I found out of a rom that I've never tested before. Haldric's Desire HD Rom:
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1333106
It's a 3.0 Sense Rom that has the 2.0 Unlocker (thus getting rid of that awful ring)
I tweaked it like this:
- removed about 40 mb of useless apps (laputa, widgets I never use, htc loggers and crash report senders, and so on)
- installed latest 0.1.5 kernel for marc (fantastic kernel for sense)
- installed europe gps libs from tytung
- imported my hundreds of contacts, synced with facebook, and my other two yahoo email accounts.
- installed facebook and yahoo messenger apps and configurated them accordingly
- installed apps like maps, barcode scanner, hdr camera, and more than 15 apps
- free memory after running all of these, 97 mb
And so far, it runs like it ran the first time it booted. Fast!
yeah I'm done with Sense ROMs. I was just testing them anyways.
I use the MIUI rom which is fast and better design compare to Cyanogen ROMs. Obviously Cyanogen ROMs are bit faster than MIUI but I love MIUI's UI.
I don't think I'm switching to any other ROM as of right now
hehehehe, best (most honest) thread title i have seen in the last couple of months right in you face baby
well, i am away from sense roms, but everytime i see a sense rom titled "fast, smooth,...." exactly the same thoughts as your thread title are going through my head
greg17477 said:
hehehehe, best (most honest) thread title i have seen in the last couple of months right in you face baby
well, i am away from sense roms, but everytime i see a sense rom titled "fast, smooth,...." exactly the same thoughts as your thread title are going through my head
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lol,
I fell for it and tried the Sensation roms, which were claimed to be Fast & Smooth ...
nowhere near as fast and smooth as a CM7 rom, or a lite AOSP rom such as the one done by Xylograph ...
In my opinion the less EXT/Data2Sd etc partition on a SD card a rom uses the Faster it is.
Access and Read times are both Faster on NAND than any SD Card,
regards
I use a Sense NAND rom on one of my HD2, so far I haven't noticed many lag problems. Of course, it will never be faster than cyanogenmod, but it's fairly close, even when using it to play games.
The SD build on the other hand... I overclocked to 1.2 ghz for best results.
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I use a Sense NAND rom on one of my HD2, so far I haven't noticed many lag problems. Of course, it will never be faster than cyanogenmod, but it's fairly close, even when using it to play games.
The SD build on the other hand... I overclocked to 1.2 ghz for best results.
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oh please.....
btw. we do not mean the lags, but its usability on daily basis.. for example checking mails, checkin facebook, checkin weather etc. simultaneously... while doing this, you can even open your camera quickly (if something is happeing around suddenly) and you can do this in a fiew seconds and your phone won't freeze. And i am not talking about freshly flashed rom doing this on Sense, you need to be a very patient person and have a lot of time
what is also funny, when people say "this sense rom is very stable, i run it for almost 2 days without reboot".. sense is just outdated these days..
greg17477 said:
oh please.....
btw. we do not mean the lags, but its usability on daily basis.. for example checking mails, checkin facebook, checkin weather etc. simultaneously... while doing this, you can even open your camera quickly (if something is happeing around suddenly) and you can do this in a fiew seconds and your phone won't freeze. And i am not talking about freshly flashed rom doing this on Sense, you need to be a very patient person and have a lot of time
what is also funny, when people say "this sense rom is very stable, i run it for almost 2 days without reboot".. sense is just outdated these days..
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I personally like the Sense UI, and I do not find the lags and delays that bothersome.
To say it's outdated... well, to each his own.
It depends on your style of using your phone
For me sense ROMs are fine. They aren't the fastest but they sure are pretty
and i think a class 6 SD card should help with speed
Tsumi said:
I personally like the Sense UI, and I do not find the lags and delays that bothersome.
To say it's outdated... well, to each his own.
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Nitro_123 said:
It depends on your style of using your phone
For me sense ROMs are fine. They aren't the fastest but they sure are pretty
and i think a class 6 SD card should help with speed
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guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
greg17477 said:
guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
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Yes, it is a FACT that some people prefer the features of Sense over raw speed for the HD2 Android.
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greg17477 said:
guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
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Speed is a matter of fact. Tolerance levels are a matter of opinion.