I haven't seen one sense rom thread that doesn't use words like fast, optimized and smooth.
However I've tried randomly some. RCmix, URDroid, mwakiousRUNNINGrom 3.0 and even the latest 6.5.x. Result?
None of them is even remotely as fast as described. Especially if I dare to install more apps than they are already installed. Ram gets eaten up. HTC widgets do their thing and eat most of it.
My only thought is that maybe the devs that state their rom is fast, stable, smooth, flying, vigorous, etc etc just installed the rom, let it settle and that's it.
They didn't try to:
- import 600 contacts
- sync with Facebook
- install facebook
- install yahoo messenger
- sync gmail and one or two more yahoo accounts
- install a few apps (color note, barcode scanner, adobe flash, maps and other utilities as such)
Doing this is a killer combo for all of the mentioned roms.
Some even don't bear with me through the whole proccess and I end up nervously installing a light cyanogen mod rom. They started freezing while receiving a call, the lockscreen sometimes took so much time to load that it passed those 30 seconds until it goes off again, an so on.
So where to now?
Without trying to do another "best rom thread" what is the fastest gingerbread sense rom for you? Please reply only if you have actually used the rom for more than 4 days and synced with facebook, 2-3 email accounts, installed some apps, etc. Bonus points for battery lasting more than one day.
I have seen exactly this problem.. It is mainly sense related.. it's not just on the HD2 either, also on phones that come with android & sense out of the box. Sense just eats a lot of memory.
I used to be a big fan of sense and tried to find a fast stable rom, used to use one made by Mdeejay but he stopped developing it.
After I switched to a CM7 rom and saw the speed of that I never looked back, so for me that is the way to go ^^
Its called ad-ver-ti-sing, where you say good things about your own product regardless of the facts.
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Its called ad-ver-ti-sing, where you say good things about your own product regardless of the facts.
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Hahaha !!
I second that !!
All sense roms, use all the ram but leave you with about 60 MB (which is not enough for regular usage)
If you go to a monitoring app you'll see that the desktop (Sense Launcher) is already eating 86+ MB of your ram, despite the fact that there are other resources running in the background bracing the launcher AND taking memory .
MIUI and CM7 if you want your device to be fast.
I use Dorimanx' rom, it's the fastest thing alive.
Seriously, of all roms for the HD2 this is the fastest and most advanced one.
As for your other questions.
I use it to sync 3 gmail and 1 exchange account, i have around 100+ apps installed.
I don't have anything to do with facebook or yahoo, but do use ebuddy to chat with people on MSN.
Although i wouldn't know of any way how an app for IM'ing could possibly affect your phone's performance.
It's also a real battery saver, i guess it could run for 2 days on a single charge.
But i'm not really sure about that, usually i charge it when i go to sleep and at that point i have around 60% left.
If you want some tips about the ROM or want some troubleshooting, just contact me.
I'm always willing to bring the delight of Dorimanx to people.
I gave up on Sense too. I have been using Hyperdroid for a few months and haven't found a reason to switch to anything else for daily use.
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I used infected rom eternity for the evo 3d for almost a month, had 7 emails (2 Gmail, 2 yahoo and 3 live), facebook sync, around 45 apps and at least 2 Widgets on all screens and mine was so smoothe it made butter look like rocks lol.!
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NRG has put out a LITE version that I'm enjoying.
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I used infected rom eternity for the evo 3d for almost a month, had 7 emails (2 Gmail, 2 yahoo and 3 live), facebook sync, around 45 apps and at least 2 Widgets on all screens and mine was so smoothe it made butter look like rocks lol.!
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Evo 3D has 1GB of RAM, this is HD2.
Sir, what are you doing here?
Ok guys, let's update this thread. Yesterday after failing with most 3.5 sense roms, I started crawling the threads and searching for all of the sense gb 2.3 roms.
I left out all 3.5 roms, all of the sensation xl ones and mostly roms based of newer beasts.
I looked for as stock as possible and also narrowed it down. Then, I found out of a rom that I've never tested before. Haldric's Desire HD Rom:
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1333106
It's a 3.0 Sense Rom that has the 2.0 Unlocker (thus getting rid of that awful ring)
I tweaked it like this:
- removed about 40 mb of useless apps (laputa, widgets I never use, htc loggers and crash report senders, and so on)
- installed latest 0.1.5 kernel for marc (fantastic kernel for sense)
- installed europe gps libs from tytung
- imported my hundreds of contacts, synced with facebook, and my other two yahoo email accounts.
- installed facebook and yahoo messenger apps and configurated them accordingly
- installed apps like maps, barcode scanner, hdr camera, and more than 15 apps
- free memory after running all of these, 97 mb
And so far, it runs like it ran the first time it booted. Fast!
yeah I'm done with Sense ROMs. I was just testing them anyways.
I use the MIUI rom which is fast and better design compare to Cyanogen ROMs. Obviously Cyanogen ROMs are bit faster than MIUI but I love MIUI's UI.
I don't think I'm switching to any other ROM as of right now
hehehehe, best (most honest) thread title i have seen in the last couple of months right in you face baby
well, i am away from sense roms, but everytime i see a sense rom titled "fast, smooth,...." exactly the same thoughts as your thread title are going through my head
greg17477 said:
hehehehe, best (most honest) thread title i have seen in the last couple of months right in you face baby
well, i am away from sense roms, but everytime i see a sense rom titled "fast, smooth,...." exactly the same thoughts as your thread title are going through my head
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lol,
I fell for it and tried the Sensation roms, which were claimed to be Fast & Smooth ...
nowhere near as fast and smooth as a CM7 rom, or a lite AOSP rom such as the one done by Xylograph ...
In my opinion the less EXT/Data2Sd etc partition on a SD card a rom uses the Faster it is.
Access and Read times are both Faster on NAND than any SD Card,
regards
I use a Sense NAND rom on one of my HD2, so far I haven't noticed many lag problems. Of course, it will never be faster than cyanogenmod, but it's fairly close, even when using it to play games.
The SD build on the other hand... I overclocked to 1.2 ghz for best results.
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I use a Sense NAND rom on one of my HD2, so far I haven't noticed many lag problems. Of course, it will never be faster than cyanogenmod, but it's fairly close, even when using it to play games.
The SD build on the other hand... I overclocked to 1.2 ghz for best results.
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oh please.....
btw. we do not mean the lags, but its usability on daily basis.. for example checking mails, checkin facebook, checkin weather etc. simultaneously... while doing this, you can even open your camera quickly (if something is happeing around suddenly) and you can do this in a fiew seconds and your phone won't freeze. And i am not talking about freshly flashed rom doing this on Sense, you need to be a very patient person and have a lot of time
what is also funny, when people say "this sense rom is very stable, i run it for almost 2 days without reboot".. sense is just outdated these days..
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oh please.....
btw. we do not mean the lags, but its usability on daily basis.. for example checking mails, checkin facebook, checkin weather etc. simultaneously... while doing this, you can even open your camera quickly (if something is happeing around suddenly) and you can do this in a fiew seconds and your phone won't freeze. And i am not talking about freshly flashed rom doing this on Sense, you need to be a very patient person and have a lot of time
what is also funny, when people say "this sense rom is very stable, i run it for almost 2 days without reboot".. sense is just outdated these days..
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I personally like the Sense UI, and I do not find the lags and delays that bothersome.
To say it's outdated... well, to each his own.
It depends on your style of using your phone
For me sense ROMs are fine. They aren't the fastest but they sure are pretty
and i think a class 6 SD card should help with speed
Tsumi said:
I personally like the Sense UI, and I do not find the lags and delays that bothersome.
To say it's outdated... well, to each his own.
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It depends on your style of using your phone
For me sense ROMs are fine. They aren't the fastest but they sure are pretty
and i think a class 6 SD card should help with speed
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guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
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guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
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Yes, it is a FACT that some people prefer the features of Sense over raw speed for the HD2 Android.
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greg17477 said:
guys seriously, it not a matter of taste, its a matter of FACT.
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Speed is a matter of fact. Tolerance levels are a matter of opinion.
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hi...
long story short...
my 8gb class 6 card was stolen.. have a 16gb class 6 coming at end of week. i was running DC2.1 last custom ROM. was also using apps2sd and it was working great!
question?
should I go ahead and get Froyo?
will its version of app2sd be as good as the 2.1 version? because with the efficient apps2sd on 2.1.. i am still pushing the limits of the memory.
who the hell steals sd cards?
Is there even a stable release of Froyo yet?
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Is there even a stable release of Froyo yet?
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Stable, yes. Final, no.
Look in the dev forum for CM6 RC1.
@OP:
Yea, get Froyo.
I came from French Toast, and I thought that was fast. Froyo, no lie is lighting quick. The Apps to SD innate seem much better at handling it too.. but that's just what I think. Plus you can see what apps are on your SD card on the phone. I recommend it. Even though it's not final. everything I use the phone for works on froyo, including camera.
I'd definitely recommend using FroYo... it's ridiculously fast, gets good battery life, and you get access to new apps like Voice Actions.
I have a 16g class 6 and i am running the current build of cm6 for the hero. I haven't had a single issue. its fast thank you devs
so yea get froyo.
thanks everyone... i guess I will give Froyo a try..
does it fix the phone lag... staring calls?
Haven't had any problems. Another bonus is that Froyo takes about half the space of 2.1 with Sense.
Is there a froyo with sense? I need it for HTC sync for use with outlook 2010. Also, why do people make up such crazy names for ROMS? I spend too much time trying to figure out what it is, and who made it, what version it is, do all the features work, what radio am I supposed to use. Isn't there a way to simplify this?
the froyo rom here is cyanogenmod6 its named after the cyanogen and is the sixth version of the multi platform android rom he and his team have put out. I do agree that some of the rom names are downright ridiculous and the word art junk I've seen for some of them just seems really lame and immature (think high school class projects with crap word art thrown in)
NO there is no sense 2.2 rom and there may or may not ever be one. Also before it gets asked in this thread, NO CM6 DOES NOT HAVE FLASH!
why are you syncing your phone to outlook? both outlook and the phone should sync to your calandar and email provider, your doing it kinda backwards. outlook is a client, and the phone is a client. why sync one client to another instead of syncing both clients directly to the service provider?
O/T but outlook is a terrible email client, bloated as hell and poorly written. I wouldn't recommend anyone use it unless they have a need to talk to an exchange server.
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Is there a froyo with sense? I need it for HTC sync for use with outlook 2010. Also, why do people make up such crazy names for ROMS? I spend too much time trying to figure out what it is, and who made it, what version it is, do all the features work, what radio am I supposed to use. Isn't there a way to simplify this?
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I came from French Toast, and I thought that was fast. Froyo, no lie is lighting quick. The Apps to SD innate seem much better at handling it too.. but that's just what I think. Plus you can see what apps are on your SD card on the phone. I recommend it. Even though it's not final. everything I use the phone for works on froyo, including camera.
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Everything works yes but it is NOT lightning quick, even with the same 730mhz. 2.1 was ALOT faster
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I'd definitely recommend using FroYo... it's ridiculously fast, gets good battery life, and you get access to new apps like Voice Actions.
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Nope along with performance my battery life is alot worse
Don't get me wrong it is VERY stable for what it is (the only issue being the LEDs being messed up which there's a fix for) but 2.1 was alot faster for me. My GBA emulator is really laggy and useless with 2.2
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Everything works yes but it is NOT lightning quick, even with the same 730mhz. 2.1 was ALOT faster
Nope along with performance my battery life is alot worse
Don't get me wrong it is VERY stable for what it is (the only issue being the LEDs being messed up which there's a fix for) but 2.1 was alot faster for me. My GBA emulator is really laggy and useless with 2.2
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Pics or GTFO.
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Pics or GTFO.
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The cm6 build is good but Ive gone back to fresh. The a2sd isnt as good imo as darks however you can integrate a2sd into cm6 and bypass the froyo version. Battery life was pretty random for me. I caibrated my battery and one use I got about 7 hours of streaming slacker over wifi and using a bluetooth headset to listen. Recharged and the next go around I gout 4 1/2 hours. personally 7 hours of that kind of use is damn good for me but 4 1/2 is a drastic drop. I didnt like the fact that it was ran at 691, I think my phone runs better running around 600. Above that and it can get a bit jumpy (oc widget and setcpu wouldnt maintain a frequency and the battery fix was too involved for my liking). Also I started getting a ton of FC's in launcherpro and the browser.
That being said, I made a nandroid so I can go back to it if I like but for now Im sticking with fresh's rom. The only feature I would like is the new google voice search but I rarely use voice functions anyways.
Edit: Scratch that, I loaded the updated nightly build and alot of my issues seem to be gone and OC Widget is holding at 576 so Im calibrating the battery and gonna test again.
I cannot believe I havent fried this phone after the amount of flashing and crap Ive done on it.
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ipfreelytech said:
O/T but outlook is a terrible email client, bloated as hell and poorly written. I wouldn't recommend anyone use it unless they have a need to talk to an exchange server.
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That. =P
I'm also in the process of calibrating the battery as my CM6 battery performance compared to Fresh 2.3.3 was pretty abysmal, but if it's NOT lightning quick, you're doing it wrong.
(CM6 is f-f-ffAST! Using the decad3nce #7 8/18 uncapped kernel currently, but even the included kernel was perfection)
hi all...
i tried to flash this blue rom...
it did not work.
I lost my SD card. got a replacement 16gb class6.
I also have an old 1gb class2.
i have been rooted since I got the phone in Dec and have flashed many ROMs with no issues. I was last on DC 2.1 custom Rom.
it just gets stuck in "HTC" splash screen. wait 15-30 mins. never comes out. here is what I have done...
each time i wipe the data and Dalvik.
flash the 2.2 ROM.
both from the 1gb and the 16gb.
just stuck in the black screen "htc"
what do I need to do?
As per the title I know that is uses a newer version of sense with new animations, can somebody list me other benefits if any? I have seen some quadrant scores which seem high is that because its a later android build than some of the other ROMS available?
Any advice and info appreciated
ive tried every single desire hd build release over last couple of days and they laggy as hell....how u finding it?
a LOT of times i can tap an icon to open something up and nothing happens for a good 10-12 seconds!!
scrolling through the big list freezes, slow and jerky.
ozroid rom, energy rom....4 different radios, 3 different SD cards, used windows format tool and sd format tool....tried everything.
i see the benefits of hd builds in new widgets and htc-sense connection. further i like the ability to change and download new skins awesome!
i have not such huge slow down problems with hd builds as matthew but it is not as fast as mdj revolution 1.7 with 7.1 kernel...
my main issue now on hd build (also from mdj) is a big battery drain after some hours. first everything works fine with ~5ma, after some hours something raises it to ~50 without changing anything
ive sorted it now...cran ked setcpu to ,max....now, instead of things taking 2-15seconds to open.....its instant now..hehe.
but im down loading what everyone is talking about....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261
seen the quadrant score??!!!!
well, i don't give a rat's ass about quadrant score if everything is running smooth. damn tweakers (just kidding)!
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well, i don't give a rat's ass about quadrant score if everything is running smooth. damn tweakers (just kidding)!
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But i'm a quadrant junky....just one more benchmark to see me through...please...i'll try go cold turkey...ARRGGHH!!!
lol ;-)
Matt
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well, i don't give a rat's ass about quadrant score if everything is running smooth. damn tweakers (just kidding)!
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But i'm a quadrant junky....just one more benchmark to see me through...please...i'll try go cold turkey...ARRGGHH!!!
lol ;-)
Matt
One of my favorite things about the new Sense on HD builds is that when you swipe down the taskbar, it has a list of running/recent apps that you can just click on. It serves similar purpose as longpress the home button, I just like it this way much better since I prefer using the touch screen to the hardware buttons.
It also have access to HTC hub for skins, themes, sound sets etc. It's nice and pretty easy to use, an alternative to hunting for themes through new builds and frameworks etc. There are a lot of skins that have been made for the HD version now in the xda forums that you can download as well.
I don't believe the massive quadrant speeds are in many builds. I've used many HD builds since darkstone first put one up and they generally put up middling numbers around 1500 without oc, and they aren't faster than evo or cm6 builds. The 3000+ numbers you see are from cedesmith's build. He explained it but it's kind over my head something about asynchronous data writes and bypassing the use of rootfs.img. You see the huge green section, that's the quadrant portion that measures I/O. That's where his build gains the speed. The numbers aren't just for show though, that build is super fast.
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ive tried every single desire hd build release over last couple of days and they laggy as hell....how u finding it?
a LOT of times i can tap an icon to open something up and nothing happens for a good 10-12 seconds!!
scrolling through the big list freezes, slow and jerky.
ozroid rom, energy rom....4 different radios, 3 different SD cards, used windows format tool and sd format tool....tried everything.
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Same as me. I'm going to wait til they develop it more.
One of the benefits I like is that it saved most of my previous HD Sense settings so I really didn't have to do much when I reinstalled the ROM. Just to explain, on the 30th I DL'd the first HD Rom that had the camera working. I believe it was MDJ and if not one of the other ROM porters. Well, it was slow and laggy and annoying me so the next day. I noticed the next day that Mcmoon posted a ROM so I downloaded his next. I just deleted everything which I always do when I install a new ROM. Well because I had logged into HTCSense.com under MDJs build it automatically picked up my settings when I logged in using MCCM's build. All my apps were downloaded overnight without me having to search for them (every single app I had previously) whereas sometimes I have to search for the apps. My messages were all saved to HTC Sense so messages I lost from a previous HD build were now stored online and retrieveable with the new build I installed.
Then there is the HTC likes feature which I used today for the first time. It just picked an ereader that was popular by user ratings and I was able to DL that in no time at all. And then the customization. Right now I'm using the Tron Legacy skin which is sexy! Theres other things I like too but this build is sweeet!
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ive sorted it now...cran ked setcpu to ,max....now, instead of things taking 2-15seconds to open.....its instant now..hehe.
but im down loading what everyone is talking about....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261
seen the quadrant score??!!!!
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Can you please share your setcpu settings?
Thanks
Desire HD PDF Viewer
Can someone, please, tell me if the PDF Viewer that comes with a Desire HD Build is the same version as the one that is included in any recent Desire Builds ( version 1.00.1045)?
If there is a new version in the HD Build, does it have the option to "Remember Last Page" viewed when you reopen a document?
Thank you
Hey everyone. So I've been using the Redemption ROMs now for quite sometime. I've been looking lately for another ROM as I want to try something a but different but nothing seems to come close in means of speed and battery life. I tried CM7, Sky Raider, a leaked GB, and another that I forget the name and none of them compare to this ROM. Has anyone else found a better ROM than Redemption? Mainly I would like the ability to overclock as well as Sense 3.0, if that combination is even possible.
Thanks in advance, AT
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Hey everyone. So I've been using the Redemption ROMs now for quite sometime. I've been looking lately for another ROM as I want to try something a but different but nothing seems to come close in means of speed and battery life. I tried CM7, Sky Raider, a leaked GB, and another that I forget the name and none of them compare to this ROM. Has anyone else found a better ROM than Redemption? Mainly I would like the ability to overclock as well as Sense 3.0, if that combination is even possible.
Thanks in advance, AT
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That combination isn't possible yet due to the fact that kernel codes aren't released for the leaked kernel. No overclocking yet my friend on 3.0.
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Try incredibly reengineered, not the Z one.
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Awesome, looking at it now. Question though...since I'm under 10 posts I can't ask him there. Is the 2.4 version downoad link broken for you guys? The latest I can get is the 2.3.1
Last I recall, the download was hosted elsewhere, idk where.
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Yea its hosted at The Mik Mik which is down due to upgrades. I've been using IR 2.3 and 2.4 since I got my incredible back in March but I've recently moved on to the gingersense roms since theyre blazing fast but theyre battery hogs.
I used Redemptive Revolution for a long time, but the interface got old. I started trying the Z roms like WarmZ which I liked a lot. But WarmZ had some stability issues, and a buddy kept talking about his contract being up and getting the Evo 3D. So I started trying Sense 3.0... the Uber Kingdom rom. It looks wonderful, and I'm quite happy with that, but it's definitely not terribly solid yet. It does seem stable, but some stuff is just not working (settings for some apps like weather freeze and FC, text not visible on e-mail widget, etc).
I would follow its progress, as there's only a few spotty issues I've noticed, and the updated interface with Sense 3.0 is really quite nice.
There's always MIUI. It's still in beta, so but is updated weekly. If you're interested head over to http://www.miui.us and check it out. It's what I use and have used for as long as I can remember. I've tried other roms, flashed two today, and yet I keep restoring MIUI within a matter of a couple hours.
Hop on IRC (link at the top of the page), plenty of people around to help out if there's a need for it.
What is the channel? I've been interested in MIUI, but I haven't left CM yet.
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What is the channel? I've been interested in MIUI, but I haven't left CM yet.
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just flashed MIUI its absolutely amazing, ive done cyan, ultimate droid, liquid light, incredibly reengineered z and others MIUI is my fave now then re engineered z
Vote for MIUI as well. I try to go back to other roms, but the really stable ones (SR4, Magnolia, Redemption) are just boring and outdated. Sense 1.0 is boring. Then when I want to try a newer Sense rom, they're either battery hogs (I'm looking at you, GingerSense roms) or slow and laggy (Sense 3.0 roms). Then I go to CM7 and have no issues, but it just doesn't compare to MIUI. MIUI is speedy, and the stock applications (normally I replace them with Go SMS pro, or alternate cameras etc) are amazing. The theme support is amazing. I don't even use the stock launcher (too iPhone-y for me), but with LPP, it truly is an awesome rom.
If you're out to try a new rom, give MIUI a try!
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There's always MIUI. It's still in beta, so but is updated weekly. If you're interested head over to http://www.miui.us and check it out. It's what I use and have used for as long as I can remember. I've tried other roms, flashed two today, and yet I keep restoring MIUI within a matter of a couple hours.
Hop on IRC (link at the top of the page), plenty of people around to help out if there's a need for it.
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Best ROMs for the DINC (I really have tried them all for a at least 4 days each):
Froyo = Sky Raider 4.0 - This one Rocks, and I would love to see it on a GB Platform with Sense 2.0
GB = MIUI - I don't always use (or like) the Mac-like stock MIUI Launcher, but you can use both ADW-ex and Launcher Pro to make it very Sense-like. This ROM makes the DINC last 28 hours with moderate-to-heavy use. It is solid and I have yet to force a reboot. I tried it overclocked, and that does tend to make it FC, but you really don't need to OC it to make it silky smooth. I ran this rom against a Thunderbolt in the Best Buy store, and it beat it in almost every category (screen transitions, app opening/closing, market searches, and even web browsing - what even web-browsing you say? - yes - even web browsing). The rep was scratching his head regarding the web-browsing, but we tried it against a few other phones, and the only one close was a DroidX not the X2 running Gingerbread (from one of the other customers).
My one complaint with all the GB roms is the crappy stock email client with no search functionality (I use Exchange), so I'm waiting with baited breath for a Sense-base GB rom.
Does anyone know if the new Gingerbread with Sense running on the EVO has a better email client than the stock GB mail client (which bites)? I use SkyRaider 4 with Sense 2 on the Froyo platform, but MIUI on the GB platform with LauncherPro to make it as Sense-like as possible. Since the GB mail client neglected the 'Search' functionality, I had to buy the Enhanced Mail client (I'm and Exchange user), but there is no scrolling widget for this. A Sense-based GB rom with a Sense-based mail client would solve all my problems. Bottom line, has anyone seen the Sense Mail client on the new GB-based EVO?
get yourself some miui gingerbread! best thing ive run across. put it on the new tiamat sbc kernel and youll have a fast ass phone thatll last all day
I'm on the Uber Kingdom rom. Still a little rough around the edges, but keep in mind, these sense 3.0 roms are still very young. Give it a few months, now that summer is coming up I'm sure the developers will have a lot more time on their hands to get these running flawlessly
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I'm on the Uber Kingdom rom. Still a little rough around the edges, but keep in mind, these sense 3.0 roms are still very young. Give it a few months, now that summer is coming up I'm sure the developers will have a lot more time on their hands to get these running flawlessly
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Me and incubus and nytergae are going to blow your minds dudring the summer
Just revisited the list of DINC roms on XDA
Just went back to the updated list of roms for the DINC
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=638)
There are a number of GB Sense roms listed that I'm kicking myself for missing. I'll start trying these out and report back. One question about these roms:
Q - Assuming that all these new roms come with their own Kernel, are there any recommended GB with Sense 2/3 kernels for OC, battery life and undervoltage?
Please report any feedback on the new GB Sense ROMs
We have one report back on the Uber Kingdom (rough around the edges), so does anyone else have any 100% stable everything working correctly GB Sense 1/2/3 roms working on the DINC?
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We have one report back on the Uber Kingdom (rough around the edges), so does anyone else have any 100% stable everything working correctly GB Sense 1/2/3 roms working on the DINC?
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Checkout Nils' Business Gingersense:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104883
Now running Kingdom Stock Gingersense
Since they won't let me post on the XDA-Dev forums yet (not sure why not because I have 10 posts now), I'm posting here to see if anyone knows when the Weather app is going to be fixed. The Weather app works fine, except that every day is listed as Sunday. This Kingdom Stock GingerSense is running very well with no problems yet. The Sense 3 UI is very smooth and fast.
I am going to give Nils Business Gingersense a try now to see if there are any cool Rosie mods. I like having a few more than a 3 button dock that comes with the Sense UI.
klugey1 said:
Since they won't let me post on the XDA-Dev forums yet (not sure why not because I have 10 posts now), I'm posting here to see if anyone knows when the Weather app is going to be fixed. The Weather app works fine, except that every day is listed as Sunday. This Kingdom Stock GingerSense is running very well with no problems yet. The Sense 3 UI is very smooth and fast.
I am going to give Nils Business Gingersense a try now to see if there are any cool Rosie mods. I like having a few more than a 3 button dock that comes with the Sense UI.
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I don't mean this to be a threadjack, but I wanted to go into details about my experience with Uber Kingdom.
I tried PMing Joel, but I can't post yet in the dev forum either. (what a lame new user restriction) My biggest issue with Uber Kingdom is the HTC mail widget. The font on the widget is not visible. When you click on a row, you go to a specific mail and inside the app, it reads fine, but the widget itself doesn't display text, which is quite annoying.
Otherwise, as I said earlier, I'm quite happy with the performance, the interface, etc.
Another few things I'd ideally like to tweak is the stupid theme button on the bottom launcher to be a different button. Once you set up your theme it isn't something you change often enough to need it to be so prominent. (also long clicking on the desktop accomplished the same thing, so it really isn't necessary at all) Normally on the roms I've used, rosie settings, or flashable zips let me set it to settings. I'd like to find a way to do that.
I also like seeing numbers on my battery indicator, which Uber kingdom doesn't.
I would also prefer not showing a statusbar indication that GPS ISN'T enabled. It not being there is enough for me.
Otherwise, seems stable for the passed few days, all the apps I've tried are working. Text Messsages failed to restore from titanium from 2 to 4... but I'm not sure why. They restored from WarmZ to Uber Kingdom 2.
I NEED to find the best ROM out there for the G2/Desire Z! let me know what you think it is!!
-Post what rom it is.. INCLUDING Build Number
-Explain why it is the best!
-Post a screenshot of your favorite screen i.e wallpaper..favorite widget etc..
If you could, let me know how good battery life is and stability!
-Looking for an everyday rom.. if possible
-Thanks!
I've tested several ROMs on my DZ and now I use Vision Unity.
It's basicly a 2.1/3.0 Sense hybrid ROM giving you real eye-candy.
In the latest version (1.29.0) I found some bugs/disadvantages:
- the homescreen does not rotate on keyboard open
- sometimes it lags a bit
- it takes about 300 MB ram after start, leaving you just about 70MB free (other roms are much better in this criteria)
- I experienced already few times sudden phone restart (phone just lying on table, no aggresive apps run like 3d games etc, and after few hours I take the phone and it asks for PIN) = pretty critical if you wait for an important call.
but among the roms I've tried, this seems far the best if you decide to have HTC Sense. If you can miss sense, stick to CM7, there are really cool features like finetuning the display auto brightness intensity levels (really killer feature to battery life!)
I enjoy Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 because I find it to be consistently fast and responsive, everything works for me all the time, and I still have enough ram to run a couple of apps in the background, unlike every sense 3.0 rom/hybrid I've tried.
Highly highly recommended.
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aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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LMFAO.
Cyanogen MOD 7 RC 1 or if your so inclined, nightly build #156.
- So far after testing a few ROM I've been back to CM7. Why? Once installed and running and even with keep all my favourite apps open and running in the background, I still manage to keep about 80mb of ram and CPU usage is usually between 2% and 82% with an average of 4 or 5 programs running. Ok a bit excessive I know but it still works.
I have custom memory script running that's available here on XDA and various other gadget. Battery life is usually fairly consistent with 1day 9hours of use. I use the device quite a bit in a day.
Power saving options: Brightness is set to 20% only, Juice Defender installed.
Running background application is limited to my email mostly unless I'm doing some work. Most of the time email, exchange, Facebook and twitter are sync.
I'm using Launcher Pro with the license for my main interface. Here are some screen captures for your pleasure.
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I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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...like, donut, dude? You are my hero
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aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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How would I go about doing that??
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DroidCell said:
How would I go about doing that??
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Successful troll was successful.
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Too bad you're probably right. I would have been pumped if someone ported a G1 rom for the vision XD
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Personally, my favorite ROM is MIUI.us
The stock Music app in it, is my favorite music app by far, I especially love how it not only gets the lyrics, but also scrolls them karaoke style with the song. It also has a nice theming system, and a great built in theme. Everything overall looks nicer than stock Android.
Another great thing about it is the status bar, you can enable/disable USB Mass Storage using an on/off slider in the notifications, and I love the way the switches work in the status bar.
Then there's the stock Launcher, which is much nicer than the stock Android launcher in my opinion, though I still replace it with Go Launcher, again, my personal favorite.
If you're looking for a responsive, nice looking, and user friendly ROM, MIUI.us would be my suggestion. It also has a nice backup feature with their servers. You just need to make an MIUI account. Not sure if it's still necessary, but back when I did it, I had to go to the chinese MIUI website and use Google Translate to make my account <_<
sorgo said:
I've tested several ROMs on my DZ and now I use Vision Unity.
It's basicly a 2.1/3.0 Sense hybrid ROM giving you real eye-candy.
In the latest version (1.29.0) I found some bugs/disadvantages:
- the homescreen does not rotate on keyboard open
- sometimes it lags a bit
- it takes about 300 MB ram after start, leaving you just about 70MB free (other roms are much better in this criteria)
- I experienced already few times sudden phone restart (phone just lying on table, no aggresive apps run like 3d games etc, and after few hours I take the phone and it asks for PIN) = pretty critical if you wait for an important call.
but among the roms I've tried, this seems far the best if you decide to have HTC Sense. If you can miss sense, stick to CM7, there are really cool features like finetuning the display auto brightness intensity levels (really killer feature to battery life!)
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Amen, Brotha
The best rom is hardest to define because it's really up to personally preference. MIUI? Sure if you're into that whole thing,but frankly I have trust issues with Chinese tech companies for reasons that have been in the news here and there.
Cyanogenmod is a great AOSP rom even though it's not 100% AOSP it's quick, intuitive, and has lots of options that would allow you to customize it as you want.
There are other roms such as OTA roms that have been made that are also very quick, but not quite as intuitive and they are not as easily customized as some other roms.
Now we get into Sense. There are ports of great roms from other devices that may have a minor bug here and there. Unity is a great rom but I know it needs work on it simply because of little bugs here and there, lack of ram of the Vision, and the battery drain of 1.31 is not so appealing. These roms do not perform as well as Sense roms made for the Desire Z, how ever you do not have some sense 3.0 features that make Sense so much more enjoyable to use.
I currently run Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 and it's a very quick rom, but it lacks the eye candy that we all would love with Unity. However what I love about the sense community is that there are many themes and many ways to enhance sense with add-ons here and there which I have done.
I want to clearly state that this is just my opinion and you should try out the roms for your self to get your own opinion and know your personal preference what appeals to one person is not always the same as the next.
Virtuous unity 1.31
Just test it , good for daily use
meXdroidmod Pre Ghost Chili rom! Based on CM7 2.3.4. You want speed, eye candy animations, consistent dev support, and great battery life? Look no further! PreGhost features "tweaKr" script which allows for amazing customization. You can easily down volt your voltages to create great battery life. tweakr menu pick below from terminal emulator...
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Super cm7 is still my favorite. I keep trying other roms but I always come back to this one because it is super fast and clean. Mexdroid is pretty good to but it is too themed for me. I think they are working on a more stock version which could be pretty sweet.
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ChristianFS1 said:
Amen, Brotha
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Actually, I'm now running the "Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 :: Enhanced & Optimized Stock ROM (2.42.405.2)". I miss the Sense 3.0 features, but I can try to flash some available mods. Especially the brightness setting in the quick setting.
But it's a small tax for a stable ROM without restarts.
Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
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Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
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If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
Linkies:
- Typhoon
- Dorimanx
- DHD Sense 3 - Dungphp
Moon2 said:
If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
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Not a fan of Sense 3.5 over 3.0 personally.
And just how slow is it compared to CM7? I mean, I understand CM7 will be faster than a sense rom, even CM7 with sense hacked in, but as long as its not laggy or sluggish thats fine, I don't need it to break benchmark records and run the latest 3d software.
I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
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I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
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Im new to NAND HD2, but not new to the HD2 ( sold my 1st one, just got another the other day ) but I just flashed my first Android NAND ROM and I noticed all thse graphic glitches, i thought it was something else. But apparently its a common problem for everyone? No fix Im assuming.
Anyways im curious what you mean by DHD?
GHetting to performance, HD2 isnt bad at all! Im old time Android owner going back to the G1 and myTouch 3G.If you wanna see degraded performance try flashing a Sense rom on a G1 or 32B device. OWwwo
Well I can recommend Rafdroid rom. Its Sense2 stock froyo. Works mostly well.
So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
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there are roundabout fixes yes
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
rzw said:
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
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Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
HyperDroiD CM7 5.3.0 from Pongster ... my actual ROM ... stable, fast, last gingerbread 2.3.7 ... simply fantastic
nystao said:
Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
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Strange, I can't find that one here:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
I've been using Mikhei777's Android 2.2.1 Sense 2.0 rom for quite some time. It works great and haven't had any problems at all with it. The wifi hotspot works also. Not sure about bluetooth and USB tethering stuff. Don't use them. He deleted a lot of the useless system apps but there is a rar file you can download from the first post that has all of the deleted stuff in case there is something you want to put back in it. I've only put on Facebook and the text to speech stuff. I'm not using an ext on my phone since I have a TMOUS HD2 so, I don't have memory issues. Give it a try. If you don't like it you can always flash something else.
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MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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exactly, wise words...
if you want a good rom with everything working, miui is the way to go. If your friend is not a hardcore techie, he better stays away from those Sense roms. try it for yourself and compare.. but seriously feature wise Sense is so outdated compared to miui (except the htc widgets maybe).
cheers
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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That's why I use PAT's MIUI Rom with Sense launcher. It combines the best of the 2 world's. Very fast,customizable and everything is working like in other MIUI rom's and a very good, customizable launcher with the most important sense widget's.
No graphic glitches, not a disabled GPU acceleration and camcorder with full resolution and without lags. And the newest Android 2.3.7 version.
Use this rom since some month's, will never go back to the slow sense rom's. Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co. But there is already an alternative dialer on the market, probably he can also display the actual feelings (posted in facebook) of the incoming caller and such nonsense.
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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now you have surprised me not sure which version of miui you are refering to, but i am on jan-willems miui and there is zero lag (its butter smooth) on the luncher. basically there are no issues at all.
btw installing a 3rd party launcher on miui is a no go, as it decrases the fuctionality.. people no offense, but you need to read the miui bible
@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
marcusloosewire99 said:
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
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I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
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Yes!
There are missing also the hardware switching widgets (WLAN, Mobile Network...) but all is in the top status bar. You have only the contacts and the calendar widget, but it's enough for me.
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car01 said:
I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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But no hardware acceleration or with graphical glitches, only the new sense kernels should solve this problem. I don't know if there already stable.
How many free ram do you have after start with this rom?