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here my machine with vga and running phone skin
http://amd.co.at/anti/?pocket/pics/Ameo/AMEO_VGA/
1. vjbigphonev0.91.cab
2. Resco.Keyboard.PRO 4.36
3. SdkCerts.cab
4. MvRTrueVGA_v1.3.cab
full packet here
http://amd.co.at/anti/pocket/pics/Ameo/soft/vga.zip
install 1-4
reboot .
thats all
regards
Hi thanks for the link and downloads.
Just a question: after installing all 4 of them, do you still have problems in using truevga with Athena? i.e. the smartdial phonepad doesnot work correctly. Also what about SPB Windows Mobile new user interface application for PocketPC? Does it work properly with truevga? i.e. will it work properly with the map and GPS functions?
Any drawback at all after using this truevga?
thanks for the info.
Same questions for me. Thanks in advance for your answers.
ameo vga
SPB run perfect , maps and gps too, tested with last tomtom6.x ,
smartdial run perfect too, start vjbigphonev0.91 in autostart for smartdial phonepad ... then run correct .-> http://amd.co.at/anti/pocket/pics/Ameo/AMEO_VGA/PICT1867.JPG
you can toggle between old and new . with VGAtoggle.exe in folder
regards..
Mine did a reset while installing MvRTrueVGA_v1.3
Looks to work, some icons not working quite right and top line with phone signal etc messed up.
If you want to use VGAtoggle.exe to set back, run it, even though it crashes, just then do a soft reset and all is fine.
Can somebody confirm whether Opera Mini (not Opera browser) work properly in VGA mode ?
i notice the icons for 3G, connected to 3.5G etc dont seem to be working in each of your pictures...i.e. it shows that disconnected icon only, just like whats happened on mine.
been through that Universal 'vga files' thread, which hasnt helped, though one of the files linked to doesnt exist anymore...which may have contained the answer.
Also nice to see im not the only one with scratches on the metal edge of the screen, just to the left of the VueFlo button. is that caused by rubbing against keyboard when closed??
scratches
i havent scratches on ameo.
i dont know why PPL have this..
i use it every day 10 hours..
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whose ameo did you use in the original post then? scratches are visible in two of the pix posted where the metal body tapers to the screen, just to left of vueflo button.
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whose ameo did you use in the original post then? scratches are visible in two of the pix posted where the metal body tapers to the screen, just to left of vueflo button.
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I thought those are machine marks! You have to ask HTC about their cause
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with trueVGA. I think it is worth it. I hope it will also increase the resolution of movies played on Athena so it can handle files with higher resolution than that of 640x480 pixels.
I'll give it a try!
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i notice the icons for 3G, connected to 3.5G etc dont seem to be working in each of your pictures...i.e. it shows that disconnected icon only, just like whats happened on mine.
been through that Universal 'vga files' thread, which hasnt helped, though one of the files linked to doesnt exist anymore...which may have contained the answer.
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yeah, the 3G icon never ever appeared on mine. just the normal G icon, also i had 3G reception.
and the reception bars aren't working properly, too.
that's the only problem i had with truevga (as i don't use phonepad or connection manager that much, both are qvga and therefore look strange).
spb mobile shell (spb's new interface) definetely DOESN't work with realvga and spb doesn't seem to care. they said, i'd just have to remove the realvga app for it to work... well, good answer lol. maybe the realvga app is way more important to me than stupid mobile shell?!
i had to hardreset my device, cause it was stuck at the today-screen each time i did a SR after installing spb mobile shell.
xandergk2007 said:
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with trueVGA. I think it is worth it. I hope it will also increase the resolution of movies played on Athena so it can handle files with higher resolution than that of 640x480 pixels.
I'll give it a try!
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i don't think there will be much of a difference, just that the athena will get slower.
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Also nice to see im not the only one with scratches on the metal edge of the screen, just to the left of the VueFlo button. is that caused by rubbing against keyboard when closed??
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I`ve also a lot of scratches on the metal edge of the screen at the area of the VueFlo Button and near the camera.
I´am sure that the keyboard is rubbing against when it is closed.
I trie to change my Ameo next week.
Maybe we should start a new thread about this problem than i (and anyone else) can show the members of stuff at the shop that i (we) are not "the only one" with this problem.
Hi, I have started a separate thread, could you possibly repost this in there? Yours looks more serious than most
I have damage in a different place, below the vueflow button. This is from the raised edge between themetal and clear plastic on the KB.
The ONLY time the damage could happen above the vueflow button is if the kb doesnt sit on top of the plastic retainers. The two plastic clips that hold the Athena in its case also hold the KB away from the screen.
If the kb slides slightly left or right it falls off the plastic clip and rests on the screen edge. That is when major damage happens.
Clearly, a better case is needed.
Pyrofer said:
I have damage in a different place, below the vueflow button. This is from the raised edge between themetal and clear plastic on the KB.
The ONLY time the damage could happen above the vueflow button is if the kb doesnt sit on top of the plastic retainers. The two plastic clips that hold the Athena in its case also hold the KB away from the screen.
If the kb slides slightly left or right it falls off the plastic clip and rests on the screen edge. That is when major damage happens.
Clearly, a better case is needed.
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Amen to that!
I thought about some sort of plastic case that clips over ameo and has kb contacts inside it that connect to the KB at ALL times. sort of a plastic version of the existing wallet but connects the kb so you dont have to do the fiddly thing with the wallet to connect the kb. Basically, just make it like the universal so the kb just folds out and works at any angle.
Maybe even have it so that when fully out it would slide back to mount as its meant to with the magnets.
I just installed the supplied screen protector and am going to try being KBless for a couple of days, just have the ameo in my pocket with no case.
I used to have XDA2 and Uni in my pocket unprotected and despite some case wear on the back of the XDA 2 and minor wear on the edge of the uni hinges they both lasted a long time.
Hi, My Ameo has almost lost the word "Ameo" on the top due to keyboard/cover wear!!
Also, I've not used TrueVGA, Wisbar Advanced and Wisbar Desktop....although I have downloaded the demos of each.... Would you advise me to install the programs even though there are some compatibility errors??? Is it worth it and why?? Sorry if this is a repeat question!!
Many Thanks
Tim
ehm, really offtopic now (why don't u use the other thread?). can you please post only ontopic (realvga) stuff. thx.
Has anyone opted to use the supplied case and leave the keyboard at home? If so does it lighten the load, reduce the bulk, and work pretty well? I realize it removes the ability to view the secondary screen, but for those who don't use the keyboard for much this seems like a way to mitigate the "pain" of carrying the thing around, especially if a bluetooth headset with caller id is used. Anyone?
Thanks
Tref said:
Has anyone opted to use the supplied case and leave the keyboard at home? If so does it lighten the load, reduce the bulk, and work pretty well? I realize it removes the ability to view the secondary screen, but for those who don't use the keyboard for much this seems like a way to mitigate the "pain" of carrying the thing around, especially if a bluetooth headset with caller id is used. Anyone?
Thanks
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Do you have a different supplied case than the one with the Ameo?
I can't use the secondary screen with mine as the case isn't transparant.. :-/
Stock case is fine....for the moment!
Yeah ive opted to use the case without the keyboard, im finding im getting on with it well (especially since I purchased a Jabra 8010 headset, with caller id and vibrate)
This is great (altho im still getting used to 'whats that vibrating noise? oh its the headset, oops!' hehe!)
I find these work well together, it doesnt matter that I cant see the caller display thats there when the keyboards there.
As regards to typing, ive tried all of the options that are available Resco Keyboard, SPB Keyboard, the lot, and they are all ok, but i still go back to the standard keyboard on the bigger setting so the keys are easy to push. 90% of the time, with fast typing im fine, and happy not to be carrying the keyboard round, which i find worse than the onscreen keyboard.
Its not because of the feel of the keys on the hardware keyboard, its the layout. I just cant get used to it, and ive tried. I dont find it impossible to type, and I guess if i used it more then id get used to it, but the benefits of not carrying it around, outweigh the benefits of having the keyboard with me.
Id prefer a 'Skin' type of case, but even then, id be worried about the screen getting damaged, so for now, im happy to stick with the standard case that came with the Ameo.
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Do you have a different supplied case than the one with the Ameo?
I can't use the secondary screen with mine as the case isn't transparant.. :-/
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I don't have an Advantage yet. I'm in the market for a replacement for my Wizard and have it narrowed down to either the Advantage x7501 or the Nokia E90. But there are so many production problems appearing with the E90 that I'm leaning heavily toward the 7501. Plus the OS (M$), is a known evil and my software for the Wizard will mostly work fine on it. If I do buy one I will likely carry it without the keyboard so long as I can do so while keeping the screen 100% protected, just as tomchap is concerned about.
I rarely use the keyboard on my Wizard and I suspect I would not use it much with the 7501 either, mostly because I don't need to compose much on my phone, and don't browse the web much either while I'm out and about. So for me the trick will be to find a way to carry it without the kb yet keep it protected while still being able to access the it quickly when I need to look something up in a rush. I have a BlueAnt v12 with caller id, so the phone can stay cased while I'm answering calls. FWIW my idea of an ideal case would be a crystal case with a flip up screen cover.
Thanks for the replies
I am putting the phone in my pants pocket without the keyboard. With the keyboard it is too thick. Without, it 'just' fits! W/O the KB the form factor is now in that sweet spot where I don't notice the bulk as much.
Plus, I am used to graffiti text input with my old Sony Clie, Palm OS, so leaving behind the kb is not a big deal for me.
Keith Walker
Are you pocketing it while it is cased, or without? If cased, are you using the case that came in the box?
I think he puts the phone in his pocket without any case.
If so, in which direction does your screen point ?
mojo2000 said:
I think he puts the phone in his pocket without any case.
If so, in which direction does your screen point ?
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I do the same and the screen is on my body/leg.
I found that this causes a lot of wear on the screen protector (you DO have one right?)
But i was too scared to have the LCD face outward just in case of a bump.
Yes I use the leather case that the 7501 came with.
I am more worried about the camera port getting scratched than the screen, which I have a screen protector on.
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Are you pocketing it while it is cased, or without? If cased, are you using the case that came in the box?
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Hi Guys,
I bought one of these and as "good" as it may seem, just warning you off, or at least giving you notice.
The magnet affects the phone and operates the screen by it's self.
Well, that's a little miss leading. What it does is I think, is tell the phone that you have opened the slide.
So depending on your settings, whenever you attach the phone it will either unlock it, open the dialer, read your sms messages or start pressing the soft keys.
Apart from the ridiculously poor delivery (1st class postage arrive 7 days after shipping. A parcel from US came quicker" ) that I don't know whether to blame on them or Royal Mail, I must of got the one adapter with no bloody adhesive on the back! Industrial sticky tape needed, that's if I decide I can live with the unlocking!
*mods* Really sorry, I didn't notice the "accessories" thread. I only hang out in this one, I've only just noticed it.
Sorry to hear you are not very happy with this, i've had one for a while and i reckon its one of the best i've had. as well as being small and discreet the magnet holds the pda even when driving down dirt tracks and over speed bumps.
The magnet does occasionally set off the quick list but it has already been mentioned on this forum that it is activated by magnet it just depends where you put the adapter
i dont know about you guys but im keeping magnets well away from my device.
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The magnet does occasionally set off the quick list but it has already been mentioned on this forum that it is activated by magnet it just depends where you put the adapter
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Do you have a Dual then? Where is your strip to attached the magnet?
After a bit of experimentation, if you place the strip horizontal just underneath the camera (in the center) then the magnet wont set off the phone!
Now I've fixed it with my own tape I'm really happy with it!
i've got mine right in the middle, covering the orange logo, after playi g with it a bit last night it seems to depend a lot on how quickly you move the dual towards the magnet and whether you go staraight towards it or come in from an angle. one thing i havent tried is disabling the quick menu, will give it a go later as i never use it anyway
Has anyone seen a horizontal desktop cradle for the raphael? Essentially something that would allow the keyboard to stay open.
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d
Found this one on the net.. looks cool.
http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/V7/_AD_HTC_Touch_Pro_Rotation_Cradle
eiskoud said:
Found this one on the net.. looks cool.
http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/V7/_AD_HTC_Touch_Pro_Rotation_Cradle
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oooooo.....that looks pretty slick!
eiskoud said:
Found this one on the net.. looks cool.
http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/V7/_AD_HTC_Touch_Pro_Rotation_Cradle
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Yea I wouldn't recommend this one. I bought one since I figured the $10 was an acceptable risk. Fuze was a VERY tight fit with my Bodyguardz installed. The rotate was cool but less useful than I thought. 2 days later my Fuze stopped being recognized while sitting in the cradle. I've spent more for stupider stuff so I'm over it. Time to order a new cradle. Something more conventional this time.
Mine
I had a cradle laying around from my 8125. I just had to rework the plug due to different orientation. It works great when I use it because I like to keep keyboard open. Will post a pic later.
How about this?
rd27 said:
Has anyone seen a horizontal desktop cradle for the raphael? Essentially something that would allow the keyboard to stay open.
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d
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Why not buy a cheapie $5. windsheild car mount. They swivel, adjust angle, work with an open or closed device. You can use your wall charger or sync cable and even mount it up out of the way, like on the side of your computer!
I have extended battery and the phone stays on the side with screen slided out and usb cable connected. No need for cradle at all.
I just ripped some magnets out of an old hard drive and want to use them to make a car dock from a DIY I saw (http://forum.androidcentral.com/evo...completely-invisible-phone-vehicle-mount.html)
I am worried about putting a magnet on phone as it always been common sense that magnets + electronics = broken ****. Though, isn't it magnets in the commercial car docks that trigger car mode to pop up on the phone?
small magnets will not hurt - many phones have magnets as sensors - the blackberry determines holstered or not via a magnet in the holster. Other Moto phones determined if they are docked or not via magnets in the dock.
But, any magnet strong enough to keep the phone from bouncing loose could cause interference issues. I don't think you can do any permanent damage, but if things start acting wonky, it may be the magnet.
ok I ran a magnet over, stuck on a few points but car mode never came up. Know the right location/method?
be very careful of the speakers. I have a friend who tried to do the same thing and his speaker sounded really bad after that
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ok I ran a magnet over, stuck on a few points but car mode never came up. Know the right location/method?
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As far as I've read, magnets trigger no dock on the Atrix.
It's thought to be resistances on the USB connectors that trigger different docks to come up.
Worst case scenario is that you create a shortcut on one of your homescreens that manually opens the car dock interface, which is extremely easy to do.
Speaker is ok. Plus I still have warranty and what not, thought id actually take some kind of risk considering all the hard work devs do.
So, FOR ME, rubbing the magnet over the back of the phone did not cause any noticeable harm yet. The magnet would center about an inch above the speakerphone speaker in the center.
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As far as I've read, magnets trigger no dock on the Atrix.
It's thought to be resistances on the USB connectors that trigger different docks to come up.
Worst case scenario is that you create a shortcut on one of your homescreens that manually opens the car dock interface, which is extremely easy to do.
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Hmmmm, saw that for the multimedia dock. I dont see where to find the car dock program. I looked in apps and dont see it. Is it accessed from somewhere else?
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Hmmmm, saw that for the multimedia dock. I dont see where to find the car dock program. I looked in apps and dont see it. Is it accessed from somewhere else?
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I don't have my phone on me at the moment (managed to forget it along with some other stuff as I left my house for class this morning).
I think its something like (this is with Launcher Pro):
Long press home
Create custom shortcut
Activities
Select Car Dock -> Cardock.main.cardockmainactivity
Name shortcut
If that doesn't work, I'll try it when I get home tonight.
SG Pillar said:
I don't have my phone on me at the moment (managed to forget it along with some other stuff as I left my house for class this morning).
I think its something like (this is with Launcher Pro):
Long press home
Create custom shortcut
Activities
Select Car Dock -> Cardock.main.cardockmainactivity
Name shortcut
If that doesn't work, I'll try it when I get home tonight.
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I tried it myself and it works great, thanks.
Yup that works great. Thanks! Now to figure out how it turns on when put in a dock.
Wait so for the mount to work, you would have to setup the charger? that blows, the magnet turning on the phone is better.
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Yup that works great. Thanks! Now to figure out how it turns on when put in a dock.
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well, you would press the shortcut
What's really weird to me is that the other day Cardock was showing up in my app list all the time, now it has disappeared and I have to add it the way you listed above. What caused it to disappear?
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well, you would press the shortcut
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I meant figure out how putting the phone in the car dock makes the phone turn on. I understood pushing the button would start dock mode
The old flip phones (StarTac) would typically use a magnet to sense if they were open/closed. AFAIK there's nothing in the new phones that understands magnetism at all, much less is harmed by it.
The microUSB standard provides for "sensing" by means of placing a fixed resistance across the new fifth wire. Devices see a set resistance, look it up internally, and determine what device has been attached. I suspect Moto is using this sensing to signal what dock a phone is plugged into--all part of a standard.
FWIW, cell phones going back at least to the original Palm Treos have done something similar, they look at the impedance of whatever is plugged into the ear/mic socket, and then configure themselves for earbuds, mono ear/mic, and other different devices all plugged into the same socket. This is mature and invisible technology by now.