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Buying Vario II OR SPV m3100 Advice PLS

Hi guys I have the choice of getting a vario II on a flext 20 with web n walk @ £22.50 and pay £95 for the handset. Or get a spv M3100 with orange on dolphin 19 with £10 cashback every month(which i can buy some data or a package) thus only £9 line rental and free handset. Both are 18 months contract. Which represents the best value and which package would you guys reccommend I go for??
Cheers folks

Hi shabba007, off topic, do you mind telling me where you managed to get these deals? One of my mates in interested in the Orange one. Thanks.

shabba007 said:
Hi guys I have the choice of getting a vario II on a flext 20 with web n walk @ £22.50 and pay £95 for the handset. Or get a spv M3100 with orange on dolphin 19 with £10 cashback every month(which i can buy some data or a package) thus only £9 line rental and free handset. Both are 18 months contract. Which represents the best value and which package would you guys reccommend I go for??
Cheers folks
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depends on what you are going to be using the device for.
If Data (web, email, etc) is the main driver then go for the Tmob as this is unlimited data use. Orange aren't great for Data costs and that might penalise you in the long run. Never used Dolphin but a mate used to work for them and they were a shambles....

I like the VARIO II because of the Looks!

WhiteLightning said:
Hi shabba007, off topic, do you mind telling me where you managed to get these deals? One of my mates in interested in the Orange one. Thanks.
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Hi mate this was a special offer due to the fact that i've been with them for a few years and my bills have been quite high never below £60 and I threatened them with leaving for T-Mob.

MDACompact said:
depends on what you are going to be using the device for.
If Data (web, email, etc) is the main driver then go for the Tmob as this is unlimited data use. Orange aren't great for Data costs and that might penalise you in the long run. Never used Dolphin but a mate used to work for them and they were a shambles....
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Hi mate, well thats just it, I dont really know exactly how much data i'l be using. Admittedly the first month or couple of months I'l probably bash it good a a novelty, but when the novelty factor wears off............ dont really know it'l be email, ebay a maybe the odd bit of browsing I think.
For the price I think the SPV cant be beaten, but the data is the only snag, not just the amount of data but the speed too... until orange decide to release HSPDA in the uk. I'm aware they're testing it out in France.

Will XDA Exec work with tmobile web n walk? tmobile say it wont..

Hi All,
I've just been on to tmobile about getting one of there unlimited internet access jobbies for £15/m.. all sounded great then I mentioned it was an o2 xda handset I was planning on using and they informed me that it wouldn't work.. I said well I'm sure I could just flash the mda rom onto it and it would run and they replied with "Voice and texts will work fine but the internet access will definately not work on a htc handset that that originated from o2" Then she said something about the internet settings are not compatible between the two phones..
Surely this is incorrect??
If anyone can shed any light on this please do! (or if you know of any better deals!)

mate it will work if you enable the tmob rom but i doubt it can work as a 02 for texts and calls & as tmob for web,
maybe your answer is flash rom and twin sim holder so you can flip between the two

as long as the Exec is (sim) unlocked, no problem. In fact, I'm using exactly that setup, with the current O2 ROM. You just need to change the GPRS/UMTS settings to
Access Point: general.t-mobile.uk
and iirc, username, password and domain all blank. If you have any problems, PM me or post here.

jaceuk said:
mate it will work if you enable the tmob rom but i doubt it can work as a 02 for texts and calls & as tmob for web,
maybe your answer is flash rom and twin sim holder so you can flip between the two
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Thanks for the reply! I think you misunderstood, I don't want o2 on my exec atall .. I just want tmobile with the tmobile web n walk.. they are trying to tell me that I cant which I find hard to believe because at the end of the day its a jasjar the same as the badged up tmobile version.. know what I mean?

xiasma said:
as long as the Exec is (sim) unlocked, no problem. In fact, I'm using exactly that setup, with the current O2 ROM. You just need to change the GPRS/UMTS settings to
Access Point: general.t-mobile.uk
and iirc, username, password and domain all blank. If you have any problems, PM me or post here.
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Hi there, thats just the confirmation I was looking for
I've not unlocked my exec because I was under the impression that o2's badged up jasjar arn't locked to begin with where as tmobiles mda's are.. I will take you up on the pm'ing when my sim card arrives if thats ok! I'm gunna order it now

vbJoe said:
Hi there, thats just the confirmation I was looking for
I've not unlocked my exec because I was under the impression that o2's badged up jasjar arn't locked to begin with where as tmobiles mda's are.. I will take you up on the pm'ing when my sim card arrives if thats ok! I'm gunna order it now
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My Uni is o2 Exec too, now with T-Mob sim and working on Web'n'Walk fine.
I belive that if your o2 Exec was baught from o2 on line then it arrived unlocked (as mine did); if bought from high street o2, it came sim locked.
Mav

I've had three online (all o2 online business shop), all unlocked. Also, the early high street-bought units were, iirc, unlocked too.

Hmm .. Uh Oh.. Is there anyway to check? I don't have another sim card I can try in it.. Mine was high street bought but it was one of the early ones (or so I believe.. Jan 2006).

Ignore that last post, just done some searching and spotted the unlock tool created by buzz and the team.. great work guys

Is T-Mobile really offering unlimited internet for the total sum of £15 per month? I've had a look on their website and I can't find this offer! Could someone post the link for this offer, sounds too good to be true!
I'm also quite sure I could have been totally oblivious to this offer, so apologies for asking a very obvious question!

Hi there! this offer isn't on there site. I called them and asked what they could do for me ..
sim card only
monthly contract rather than yearly (only tied to 1month each time)
unlimited data (fair use of 3gb/month)
50mins anytime
not bad eh!

davidfeltham said:
Is T-Mobile really offering unlimited internet for the total sum of £15 per month? I've had a look on their website and I can't find this offer! Could someone post the link for this offer, sounds too good to be true!
I'm also quite sure I could have been totally oblivious to this offer, so apologies for asking a very obvious question!
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I have an o2 xda exec which I bought on Ebay slightly second hand and I am using it on tmobile with a prepay tarrif. All I needed to do was put in the correct settings which I got from here
http://www.manuals.t-mobile.co.uk/start.asp?manual=1217
Just go to the GPRS 3g topic in the 'choose subject box' and they take you through it step by step.
On the prepay tarrif, I get charged a pound for any day when I connect, but there is supposedly no limit during that day. It works great, but maybe I'd be better off at a £15 month tarrif if that's available.
By the way, can I just let people know of this link to google search which reformats all pages for the PDA. It makes a very useful portal:
www.google.com/xhtml
If you don't want to search, but want the pages reformatted for your pda try this one which also works pretty well.
www.google.com/gwt/n?q=
The above url will present you with a box to enter the url you want to visit. After that, all pages will be formatted without frames and made suitable for your screen.

vbJoe said:
Hi there! this offer isn't on there site. I called them and asked what they could do for me ..
sim card only
monthly contract rather than yearly (only tied to 1month each time)
unlimited data (fair use of 3gb/month)
50mins anytime
not bad eh!
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Thanks for your reply! Sounds like a great deal! What number did you ring, and any special tricks for getting them to offer you that deal?
Cheers,

No tricks to get it matey just call them on the number on the website. Cant remember what the number is now and the paper I wrote it on is on my desk in the office. Just ask for the following:
Sim Only, Web and walk unlimited internet tarrif thingy. Make sure they dont try and tie you to a 12 month contract as this is a sim only deal with NO PHONE and thats why its so cheap. Best thing about the deal is that its month to month.. so if you decide you don't want it anymore or they change the terms and conditions you can cancel with no 12 month contract to pay off

evilv said:
I have an o2 xda exec which I bought on Ebay slightly second hand and I am using it on tmobile with a prepay tarrif. All I needed to do was put in the correct settings which I got from here
http://www.manuals.t-mobile.co.uk/start.asp?manual=1217
Just go to the GPRS 3g topic in the 'choose subject box' and they take you through it step by step.
On the prepay tarrif, I get charged a pound for any day when I connect, but there is supposedly no limit during that day. It works great, but maybe I'd be better off at a £15 month tarrif if that's available.
By the way, can I just let people know of this link to google search which reformats all pages for the PDA. It makes a very useful portal:
www.google.com/xhtml
If you don't want to search, but want the pages reformatted for your pda try this one which also works pretty well.
www.google.com/gwt/n?q=
The above url will present you with a box to enter the url you want to visit. After that, all pages will be formatted without frames and made suitable for your screen.
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Cheers for the info evilv! that will come in handy.. especially the google web reform jobby!

Just to add to this lot, I tried a T Mobile PAYG sim in my O2 XDA-Exec and it works fine connecting to the net with full UMTS speed, max cost per day is £1 capped according to the chaps card we were messing with.
I have also used a contract T Mobile card in the device and simply works - No Sim Lock on the O2 XDA-Exec, so no messing around put the card in, configure the access names etc and away you go - Mike

Cheers mike, can't to get the tmobile simcard now!.. I'll actually have a use for my universal atlast!

o2 beats even that: unlimited data £10/month bolt on for pay monthly
not sure of the fair use limit. see my reply in thread 'best internet plan' or something like that for more details

r3bel said:
o2 beats even that: unlimited data £10/month bolt on for pay monthly
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That's new!
Only thing is, it'd be more expensive than WnW.
I'm on the £15 a month tariff too - it's actually £7.50 a month, minimum term of a month (not a year!) for 50 minutes each month, with the £7.50 unlimited data WnW add-on.
I use my data all the time and have never been pulled - Push Email, constant RSS feed updating, decent amount of pics on downloads, radio streaming, msn messenging, no limits for me.

you just need to request the sim only 30 day contract (can cancel anytime just give 30 day notice) which is £7.50 a month, then simply ass web n walk £7.50 a month, job done! completley normal tarriff no scams or deals

Not yet available on Orange UK

I've just tried Orange UK and been told it's not yet available and to try again this aftenoon. If anyone else is succesful with Orange please post on here as soon as you are able to order a Touch HD.

thanks for, the heads up. you have saved me a phone call. My contract is up and i am just waiting for this to come in stock

i called 10 mins ago and got told the same thing
I called last week, and the guy said they wont appear on the system till 2pm
looks like its a late lunch
i'll call about 1:30 and try my luck!
please let me know what deals they offer you (retention or not)

I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?

I already have an ancient unlimited data package for £3 plus vat, so i'm ok with orange

CPhoenix said:
I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?
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Yes, what do i need to know?

m.r.davies said:
Yes, what do i need to know?
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are you a long standing customer? i'd probably want to talk to someone other than the droid that will answer the initial call. then say that the package is too inflexible.
i'm wanting more data this time myself, i'm a long standing customer and they helpped me out last time.

CPhoenix said:
I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?
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250m for £6 and a free phone. Or £500 for the phone, another mobile provider and cheaper data.
No i'm not too worried plus i have heard that there might be a better data option in the wings. Also i have the 250 bundle and never get near it.

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are you a long standing customer? i'd probably want to talk to someone other than the droid that will answer the initial call. then say that the package is too inflexible.
i'm wanting more data this time myself, i'm a long standing customer and they helpped me out last time.
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Yes, 12 years on contract
So what do i need to do? go through retentions dept, and then say the data package is not flexible? and speak to someone else?
oh btw, unlimited data is 500mb not 250mb

donbronzi said:
...Also i have the 250 bundle and never get near it.
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yeah but you havent had a phone that you can really use on the t'internet. The browser/screen has always been too pants to use it effectively.

frustin said:
yeah but you havent had a phone that you can really use on the t'internet. The browser/screen has always been too pants to use it effectively.
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What are you suggesting ?

Forgive me, I had heard that the 250mb data allowance only came into play if you signed up for a 24month contact (which seemed completely bonkers compared to other providers).
I'm personally tempted by expansys' offer of the 12month T-Mob contract @ £35p/m inc 1GB w&w, for £170ish... but now I'm not so sure. If I can get a similar contract with Orange, I'd happily go with them.

On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?

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What are you suggesting ?
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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.

Meza1 said:
On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?
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Not quite sure how you got that on the 02 1200 package (or more likely my basic maths is failing me).
I thought it was £38.88 (£45p/m * 18mnts - £110cashback / 18month)
even with Quidco it only brings it down to £36.66 a month.
Plus with the absence of any definite literature confirming that you can swap your unlimited bolt-on, seems a bit of risk considering the price and length of the contract.
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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.
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After spending 2 days solid on trains trying to use my TytnII for internet using GPRS (on T-Mobile), I'd suggest people think twice before buying a data package for this purpose. I was barely able to hold connections for more than a few minutes making browsing completely unusable - let alone using HSDPA for streaming (which isn't allowed under 02, Orange & T-Mobile's basic data tarrifs anyway).
That said, I haven't looked into using iPlayer to cache your TV content to take with you.... Is this possible?

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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.
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sorry, i meant what are you suggesting as an alternative to orange?

k3v said:
I already have an ancient unlimited data package for £3 plus vat, so i'm ok with orange
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DO you have a 3g phone at present?
I was on one of those unlimited data tariffs until I upgraded to a 3g phone were they insisted on removing it.
Now I am on the 500MB one

Meza1 said:
On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?
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Orange have the exclusive of this handset but for how long>>>

tonyblack said:
I've just tried Orange UK and been told it's not yet available and to try again this aftenoon. If anyone else is succesful with Orange please post on here as soon as you are able to order a Touch HD.
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Hello..Long time reader..1st post n all
Just spoke to 'Lindsey' at Orange who did not know what the Touch HD was. She kept on yapping about the Diamond.
She went and spoke to her manager who insisted there were no new HTC phones scheduled to be released this month:|

m.r.davies said:
sorry, i meant what are you suggesting as an alternative to orange?
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'friad i dont have one. i've been with orange for quite a few years now and i've always managed to wangle something more from them each year. this year i am supposed to get a free handset (whichever one i choose). i am suspecting when the HD is available the droid at the end of the phone will want to charge me because he wont know i've been told this. so i'll have to kick up a fuss.

Dilema

Hi guys and gals - I really want to get the Touch HD as my next phone (first smart phone). My contract with O2 ends at the end of June but i can get an upgrade as of 20th May.
I would like to stay with O2 as the coverage is excellent in my area but am open to changing networks if I have to. I see that mobiles.co.uk are doing some good things for the HD on O2.
Would mobiles upgrade me through O2 if i changed my tariff to a 24 month?
I really want to get this phone asap as it looks the mutts nuts.
Any input would be cool.
Thanks

As far as I know from my experience with Orange you can only upgrade once you are about 3 months from the end of your contract...anything earlier will be possible but you'll be charged extra.
The best thing to do is call mobiles.co.uk and they can check and tell you

Restrictedbeef said:
Hi guys and gals - I really want to get the Touch HD as my next phone (first smart phone). My contract with O2 ends at the end of June but i can get an upgrade as of 20th May.
I would like to stay with O2 as the coverage is excellent in my area but am open to changing networks if I have to. I see that mobiles.co.uk are doing some good things for the HD on O2.
Would mobiles upgrade me through O2 if i changed my tariff to a 24 month?
I really want to get this phone asap as it looks the mutts nuts.
Any input would be cool.
Thanks
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Have you considered expansys option:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=173502

Noony said:
Have you considered expansys option:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=173502
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I want to get the phone for free so paying £500+ is not an option really and the tariffs on there are not that appealing to be honest.

Restrictedbeef said:
I want to get the phone for free so paying £500+ is not an option really and the tariffs on there are not that appealing to be honest.
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Of course I wasn't suggesting you pay £500! it's FREE or heavily discounted with various tariffs, but yes I understand if they aren't offering the right tariff for you...

Thanks for your reply, I had not thought of that site before.

Best deal in UK for HD2?

Hi
I am currently trying to find the best deal in the UK for the HD2. I dont really want to pay more than £30 a month, and hence am happy to a point to pay some money upfront.
So far, I think its mobile phones direct, with t-mobile combi 30 with web and walk over 18 months. I just have to pay £54.99 up front plus I can get £30 cashback off topcashback.
I wondered though if anyone gas found a better deal?
I tried o2, and even with a open discount I have through my work, I have to stump up alot of money. Vodafone deals dont seem so great.
Thoughts?
Scott

Im doing expansys and then simplicity, it's cheaper in the end!

Buying direct from T-Mobile may be a good option. I've found that if you ring them up you can usually get better terms than they advertise on their website. I've just ordered an HD2 from them; £36 a month for 18 months, but the phone is free, and that includes 1000 minutes, 500 texts, and their Web'n'walk Plus internet service (which has a 3GB per month limit rather than the standard 1, and permits tethering). If I'd gone with the standard Web'n'walk package I could have got unlimited texts.
And I'm not very good at haggling - you could probably get a better deal than I did!

I'm on an 18 Month contract with o2 35 a month
600 mins
1000 texts
unlimited 3G internet
95 for the phone

@onisuk, was that through the carphone warehouse though?

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I'm on an 18 Month contract with o2 35 a month
600 mins
1000 texts
unlimited 3G internet
95 for the phone
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I've just had my "unlimited internet" from O2 cut off for hitting 1GB of data in a month.

Shasarak said:
I've just had my "unlimited internet" from O2 cut off for hitting 1GB of data in a month.
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kinda makes you wonder how they're allowed to get away with describing something as "unlimited" doesn't it!

slewis1972 said:
Hi
...So far, I think its mobile phones direct, with t-mobile combi 30 with web and walk over 18 months. I just have to pay £54.99 up front plus I can get £30 cashback off topcashback....
Scott
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Thanks for the heads up on the topcashback Scott - Tmobile are really gonna have to take a beating to match this when I come to upgrade from my Diamond (MDA IV)!!!
I'll be offloading the Diamond to Mazuma too - £103 cash or £113 in Argos vouchers. Probably easier than TeaBAy!

pympster said:
@onisuk, was that through the carphone warehouse though?
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nope direct from O2 !

I'll be offloading the Diamond to Mazuma too - £103 cash or £113 in Argos vouchers. Probably easier than TeaBAy![/QUOTE said:
exactly what i've just done £97 for mmy old N82 ... it payed for my HD2 upgrade ....nice !
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onisuk said:
nope direct from O2 !
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But it's not on their site!? I'm very confused how to find out where to buy it, my iPhone is out of contract in a couple of days and so not sure to hold out and see if they can give me a better deal with the phone rather than haggling over simplicity!

they're available to existing customers, just call up o2 and speak to upgrades or retentions. It probs won't be available for new customers for a while so won't be on the website for a while.
Hope that helps!

pympster said:
But it's not on their site!? I'm very confused how to find out where to buy it, my iPhone is out of contract in a couple of days and so not sure to hold out and see if they can give me a better deal with the phone rather than haggling over simplicity!
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yep like stated above speak to retentions ( say youre going to leave) and they have the power to offer you a deal, the usual sales guys dont !

onisuk said:
yep like stated above speak to retentions ( say youre going to leave) and they have the power to offer you a deal, the usual sales guys dont !
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Tried this several times but each time I get "we cant give you a deal yet as untill its in stock we cant work out the cost to us..." exasperated doesn't quite cover it!