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Ok - time to take the plunge to put away my trusty P900 and get a Wizard in what ever guise it is in the UK - either with T-mobile/O2 etc. Currently with orange but can move anythime I want,
Anyway - wondering if anyone has found a really good deal on it - and if so - care to tell me /us where - so I can order one. Looking at cheapest option over a 12 month period preferably but may go for a 18month contract is the deals really good.
Scott
Depends what kind of usage you intend on. For example, you can get it on O2 online 100 for £99.99. That's £25 per month with 500 texts and 100 anytime cross network calls.
T-Mobile is similar though with around 100 texts i think.
Anyone know of any other good deals or perhaps have any idea of how much an upgrade on this thing costs? I am currently on the tariff above and am worried that it'll cost me loads to upgrade :-(
Dr Doom said:
Depends what kind of usage you intend on. For example, you can get it on O2 online 100 for £99.99. That's £25 per month with 500 texts and 100 anytime cross network calls.
T-Mobile is similar though with around 100 texts i think.
Anyone know of any other good deals or perhaps have any idea of how much an upgrade on this thing costs? I am currently on the tariff above and am worried that it'll cost me loads to upgrade :-(
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I just took out a new Web and Walk contract on T-Mobile, you get 200 minutes, 5 picture messages and 40mb GPRS to use per month. Its 16 quid a month for 9 months then 29 a month for another 9, over 18months. The Vario is free so to speak, I could not believe how cheap it was, because on their site the only way to get phone for free is to have 1000 mins contract at 80 a month and thats not including any GPRS.
I did this in the T-Mobile shop, they said its an introductory offer for Web and Walk and its very cheap indeed. But you need to go to your local T-Mobile shop, in Chester we have two, one is not very good the other is excellent, so just find a good shop with decent staff.
Have a look here
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/t-mobile/8264.htm
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Have a look here
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/t-mobile/8264.htm
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The third one down says £38, web and walk 200, but you get some 1/2 price line rental at £19. I'm paying 16 and it goes up to 32 for 9 months, not 29 as i said before, which is cheaper than that if you go direct to T-Mobile shop.
I'm on the same T-Mobile deal.
200 mins, 40MB of GPRS. "Self service" knocks a few quid off, too. Phone is free, and it's 9 months half price line rental, 6 months full price, then the last 3 months half price too.
You can change tariff after 11 months.
it is an 18 month contract, and there's no 14 day "cooling off" period.
Cheers for that. Am i right ref change of tariff, anyone know if you downgrade the tariff after 11 months - do they claw back any money?
Scott
I'm on Web and Walk 200 mins 40mb
Half price line rental for 12 months normal price for last 6
Self service for extra cheapness.
Free handset.
I can't tell you the exact costs because i was a little hungover when i ordered it (from tmobile telesales which was a better deal than the tmobile store) and i haven't had a bill yet
P.S i had a 7 day cooling off.
Cheap vario
http://www.scancom.co.uk/product.php/1202/330//244cc65073bacb35ea31039e26c4d0ad
This is the cheapest package I found to get a Vario, on Ufix 15. I wasn't interested in the contract, just the phone.
Is the Self service option only available if I order via T-mobile shop - as not seen it yet on a website. Handy to save a few quid
Scott
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Is the Self service option only available if I order via T-mobile shop - as not seen it yet on a website. Handy to save a few quid
Scott
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Not sure, you could ring them on 0845 412 2401 and ask.
Don't ring 150 from your phone if/when you get it to speak to customer services its 50p a minute, I think even to check the automated minutes remaining bit, I registered on the website and check it from there.
This is the deal on the t-mobile website:-
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=webnwalk200_mda_vario
and thinks thats not bad. Will call them tomorrow because if I can then downgrade tarrif in Month 11, its a pretty good deal but no self service discount I rekon as its full price £35 in months 10 -15.
Scott
slewis1972 said:
This is the deal on the t-mobile website:-
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=webnwalk200_mda_vario
and thinks thats not bad. Will call them tomorrow because if I can then downgrade tarrif in Month 11, its a pretty good deal but no self service discount I rekon as its full price £35 in months 10 -15.
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Yes thats the one I'm on 16 a month for 9 months etc, self service, you still get a paper bill, but its not itemised, you don't need a paper bill unless you are a complete luddite because its all online, otherwise if you were bothered you'd not be having self serve. Hell they could reduce it even more if they did not send you a bill and the other crap each month like promotions. That would knock at least another £2 a month off !!!!
Half price line rental for 12 months normal price for last 6
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Just a small correction - it's half price for 9 months, then full price for 6, then half price for the last 3...
You can definitely change tariff after 11 months, yes
Best Deal Yet on O2
Hey Scott
O2 are doing the deal of the year totally by mistake. have just put a post up about it. (Check it out).
Although be prompt they will have to put a stop to it soon.
Best Regards - Ash'e
AKA - SION
Posted it in another thread but seems it fits here as well.
http://www.mobileswizard.co.uk/display.asp?hs=xdaminis&tariff=none
to compare O2 plans and how much you will end up paying if bought online
and this for T-Mobile
http://www.mobileswizard.co.uk/display.asp?hs=mdav&tariff=none
I like the info on the right saying "Min Term Cost"
gives you an idea of how much you will end up paying.
There are rumors about O2 tradein offer (if you get phone in 25 quid) it is cheaper making it. £217
Or even if you dont get trade in and have an offline tariff for £16 you will be paying £291. (£99 for phone)
Think anyone can beat that??????
let me know I am after the phone.
I've just tried Orange UK and been told it's not yet available and to try again this aftenoon. If anyone else is succesful with Orange please post on here as soon as you are able to order a Touch HD.
thanks for, the heads up. you have saved me a phone call. My contract is up and i am just waiting for this to come in stock
i called 10 mins ago and got told the same thing
I called last week, and the guy said they wont appear on the system till 2pm
looks like its a late lunch
i'll call about 1:30 and try my luck!
please let me know what deals they offer you (retention or not)
I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?
I already have an ancient unlimited data package for £3 plus vat, so i'm ok with orange
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I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?
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Yes, what do i need to know?
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Yes, what do i need to know?
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are you a long standing customer? i'd probably want to talk to someone other than the droid that will answer the initial call. then say that the package is too inflexible.
i'm wanting more data this time myself, i'm a long standing customer and they helpped me out last time.
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I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?
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250m for £6 and a free phone. Or £500 for the phone, another mobile provider and cheaper data.
No i'm not too worried plus i have heard that there might be a better data option in the wings. Also i have the 250 bundle and never get near it.
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are you a long standing customer? i'd probably want to talk to someone other than the droid that will answer the initial call. then say that the package is too inflexible.
i'm wanting more data this time myself, i'm a long standing customer and they helpped me out last time.
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Yes, 12 years on contract
So what do i need to do? go through retentions dept, and then say the data package is not flexible? and speak to someone else?
oh btw, unlimited data is 500mb not 250mb
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...Also i have the 250 bundle and never get near it.
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yeah but you havent had a phone that you can really use on the t'internet. The browser/screen has always been too pants to use it effectively.
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yeah but you havent had a phone that you can really use on the t'internet. The browser/screen has always been too pants to use it effectively.
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What are you suggesting ?
Forgive me, I had heard that the 250mb data allowance only came into play if you signed up for a 24month contact (which seemed completely bonkers compared to other providers).
I'm personally tempted by expansys' offer of the 12month T-Mob contract @ £35p/m inc 1GB w&w, for £170ish... but now I'm not so sure. If I can get a similar contract with Orange, I'd happily go with them.
On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?
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What are you suggesting ?
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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.
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On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?
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Not quite sure how you got that on the 02 1200 package (or more likely my basic maths is failing me).
I thought it was £38.88 (£45p/m * 18mnts - £110cashback / 18month)
even with Quidco it only brings it down to £36.66 a month.
Plus with the absence of any definite literature confirming that you can swap your unlimited bolt-on, seems a bit of risk considering the price and length of the contract.
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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.
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After spending 2 days solid on trains trying to use my TytnII for internet using GPRS (on T-Mobile), I'd suggest people think twice before buying a data package for this purpose. I was barely able to hold connections for more than a few minutes making browsing completely unusable - let alone using HSDPA for streaming (which isn't allowed under 02, Orange & T-Mobile's basic data tarrifs anyway).
That said, I haven't looked into using iPlayer to cache your TV content to take with you.... Is this possible?
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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.
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sorry, i meant what are you suggesting as an alternative to orange?
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I already have an ancient unlimited data package for £3 plus vat, so i'm ok with orange
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DO you have a 3g phone at present?
I was on one of those unlimited data tariffs until I upgraded to a 3g phone were they insisted on removing it.
Now I am on the 500MB one
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On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?
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Orange have the exclusive of this handset but for how long>>>
tonyblack said:
I've just tried Orange UK and been told it's not yet available and to try again this aftenoon. If anyone else is succesful with Orange please post on here as soon as you are able to order a Touch HD.
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Hello..Long time reader..1st post n all
Just spoke to 'Lindsey' at Orange who did not know what the Touch HD was. She kept on yapping about the Diamond.
She went and spoke to her manager who insisted there were no new HTC phones scheduled to be released this month:|
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sorry, i meant what are you suggesting as an alternative to orange?
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'friad i dont have one. i've been with orange for quite a few years now and i've always managed to wangle something more from them each year. this year i am supposed to get a free handset (whichever one i choose). i am suspecting when the HD is available the droid at the end of the phone will want to charge me because he wont know i've been told this. so i'll have to kick up a fuss.
Anyone got any price / tariffs for the hero on these networks?
Let's be honest, an educated guess is going to be pretty near the money.
I would imagine free to buy on a 40/month for 24 months.
60 quid to buy on a 40/month for 18 months
120 quid to buy on a 40/month for 12 months
170 quid to buy for a 30/month for 12 months.
I bet those are pretty close to the actual numbers. I have done no real analysis so take the numbers as pure conjecture but they are bound to be close.
If you Google the hero then you do get a number of 3rd party sites which give details of the tarrifs.
e.g. http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobi...unt/85,13642?gclid=CMOQz7-z4JsCFZ4A4wodDTsOAA
Dont quote me on the validity of this site as I just took it from a Google search.
as far as I'm aware it is free on 40+ on orange who are releasing it tomorrow, just confirmed few moments ago.
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as far as I'm aware it is free on 40+ on orange who are releasing it tomorrow, just confirmed few moments ago.
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how do you know? where has this been confirmed? SOURCE? Im gonna burst if this is true!
Orange HQ definitely have stock of the Hero, but the retails shops don't (yet).
I phoned in about 2 weeks ago, and asked to be notified when the handset was available. I've just had a call back, and mine is out for delivery tomorrow.
Got a stunning deal as well. Was offered the following two tariffs:
Free Hero, 12 month contract, 600 minutes, 500 texts, 200 landline - £37.19/month
Free Hero, 18 month contract, 900 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited landline - £34.26/month
Those prices include VAT and two months free internet. Internet is a £5/month bolt on after that.
Went for the 12 month deal, as I hate to be tied in for too long.
By my reckoning, I'll be paying £446.19 over 12 months, which seems pretty good given that the handset is £399.
I phoned my local Orange shop, and they can't get anywhere close to that deal. On their price book, a free Hero was only available on a £40/month, 24 month contract. Expansys could match the monthly price, but not the number of minutes, and it would have been on T-Mobile as well (the handset would been SIM free, though). As I'm not a fan of white phones, I went with Orange.
Bagpuss.
There is a issue with the database so cant get one just yet just try later
Sorted - Orange just rang back and I should have mine with in 3 days? but should be tomorrow.
Tariff Details - Panther 45 (1200Mins, Unlimited Text and 500MB data) with £5 web save and 25% discount for 18 month contract. So about £27 per month (NICE)
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how do you know? where has this been confirmed? SOURCE? Im gonna burst if this is true!
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Spoke to orange online might have mine probably Wednesday 23rd
I do have the HD at the moment not sure if it's much different other then the interface
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Orange HQ definitely have stock of the Hero, but the retails shops don't (yet).
I phoned in about 2 weeks ago, and asked to be notified when the handset was available. I've just had a call back, and mine is out for delivery tomorrow.
Got a stunning deal as well. Was offered the following two tariffs:
Free Hero, 12 month contract, 600 minutes, 500 texts, 200 landline - £37.19/month
Free Hero, 18 month contract, 900 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited landline - £34.26/month
Those prices include VAT and two months free internet. Internet is a £5/month bolt on after that.
Went for the 12 month deal, as I hate to be tied in for too long.
By my reckoning, I'll be paying £446.19 over 12 months, which seems pretty good given that the handset is £399.
I phoned my local Orange shop, and they can't get anywhere close to that deal. On their price book, a free Hero was only available on a £40/month, 24 month contract. Expansys could match the monthly price, but not the number of minutes, and it would have been on T-Mobile as well (the handset would been SIM free, though). As I'm not a fan of white phones, I went with Orange.
Bagpuss.
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was hero free with 12month
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I do have the HD at the moment not sure if it's much different other then the interface
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Trust me this handset WILL blow you away! I will never go back to windows now....
One of my WM friends also said he will never get WM again after spending nearly a year with a G1.
Lets I I agree with him.
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was hero free with 12month
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Yep. That's why I went for it.
R3PUBL1K said:
There is a issue with the database so cant get one just yet just try later
Sorted - Orange just rang back and I should have mine with in 3 days? but should be tomorrow.
Tariff Details - Panther 45 (1200Mins, Unlimited Text and 500MB data) with £5 web save and 25% discount for 18 month contract. So about £27 per month (NICE)
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So how did you get 25% discount?
Vince
I had 20% until the upgrade - for being a good customer
I would advise everyone to wait tbh, Orange are quite possibly THE Worst Mobile Phone Network in the UK.
That and ONLY 500mb of data?
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I would advise everyone to wait tbh, Orange are quite possibly THE Worst Mobile Phone Network in the UK.
That and ONLY 500mb of data?
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i have unlimited data.....i got it when i got my diamond last year....and its carrying on with my hero
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i have unlimited data.....i got it when i got my diamond last year....and its carrying on with my hero
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You are one of the lucky ones. When I was with Orange and had "Unlimited" data, I went over 500mb one month and they charged me. When querying with them, they advised of the "fair usage policy" which is written into all the terms and conditions and unlimited actually means within reason.
Apparently
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i have unlimited data.....i got it when i got my diamond last year....and its carrying on with my hero
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Me too
Great for using the handset as a modem on my MacBook Pro !
Well mine states unlimited data too and unlimited text- each having a limit of 500MB and 3000 txt- all the networks have a similar policy, so its not really unlimited.
All providers states that the allowance does not include the use of the phone for tethering - but this still goes mostly undetected by the provider if you set it up right on the laptop.
I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Personally, I bought mine outright from Expansys.com, SIM free. I've got a monthly contract with O2 where I get enough minutes and texts with a web bolt-on for less than £20 a month. It suits me, but then I had £500 to spare (ish )
I always like the idea of going SIM free, in case something comes out that I really want but can't afford it. I'll just get an 18 or 24 month contract in that situtation, and probably try and get something like a PS3 with it, so I can sell my current phone and the console, so I'll end up with a new phone and a wad of cash. That should help make me feel better about signing up to a contract
Since I went the SIM free route, I can't really advise on who has them and who doesn't, as far as contracts go.
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I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Bad news on the O2 front, they finally had some in store yesterday so I could go over and find out what they will be costing on contract. To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
I will be waiting til vodafone get new stock (with an updated rom) on 11th December. Free phone for £35/month and you get 900mins UNLIMITED texts (3000 FUP), UNLIMITED landline calls (3000mins FUP), UNLIMITED internet (500MB FUP). Plus the vodafone HD's seem to be unlocked and unbranded so in my opinion thats a winning deal and well worth the wait
Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Yeah actually the 300 extra minutes is available online or over the phone. Over the phone the order gets processed right away for next day delivery so I think im gona be doing it that way lol. Waited long enough for it I figure my patience will stretch to a few more days
Could have got it from a vodafone store 2 weeks ago but they dont offer the internet package and I guess im a tight git I want the most value for my money haha.
we're singing from the same book there buddy..I'm hoping to get one on something like the palms tarif and preferably as a business customer..unltd 02 calls,10 unltd land lines and ultd www would do me nicely at £35 ish a mnth even over 24mths as you can upgrade at the 12mth point and get whtaevers hot then
You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
Just try some different vodafone stores, I went to 20 different and one could tell me 2 weeks ago that they would get one that afternoon so I directly reserved it. If you can't find any on stock the next shipment will come in on 17th of december (north ireland).
Its free with a 35 pounds bussines plan it includes 1000 minutes, Unlimited texts, Unlimited Landlines, Unlimited Internet and Vodafone Passport.
Good luck!
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To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
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Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
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You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
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he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
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which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
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which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
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Yes, but I'd rather pay a little bit extra to avoid Vodafone as I think they're an awful network.
As for the deal you mention, as I never go over my 600 minutes anyway, the extras you speak of mean little to me even if they do only cost £5 more. 1000 texts is effectively unlimited to the vast majority of people and O2's unlimited web deal is better for reasons I pointed out above and that is something I use a lot.
No, I'll stick to O2 thanks and I suggest you do the same.
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Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
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Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
You are right that you can get a free bolt on with O2 but with only 500 texts available instore (I think its doubled to 1000 online) its still not enough for me in business use and I would need that bolt on to upgrade to unlimited texts. That of course means I need to pay extra for the data bolt on
Also with vodafone giving unlimited landline calls it means I can do most of my business calls for free and leave my included minutes for family and friends
I know everyone has their prefered network but for everything they are including and the much cheaper tarif I think my only option is vodafone I just hope the stock comes in on the 11th after putting it back 2 times . When I rang htc yesterday they said the delay was because they are putting extra software on for vodafone so im assuming thats the 360 software.
I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
spastik said:
You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
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Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
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I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
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2 texts a month you CRAZYYY person haha I think my average with sending out quotes and texting clients and friends is about 2500 a month
Mithrandir007 said:
Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
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OMGG thats madd I dont think I would have a mobile phone if I had to fork out that every month ontop of paying full whack for it as well
You should move to the uk lol
mskip said:
Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
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Indeed. I don't think the HD2 is available to new customers on O2 yet, it certainly isn't listed as being available on their website. Which is ridiculous considering I have had it for over two weeks.
mskip said:
I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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I'm glad you mentioned that actually..my first "chats" with o2 to get this on a business account led me to inquire about the cost of 3gb data allowance..I was quite prepared to stump up £15/mth so I could ditch the dongle from 3 that I use only to be told that 3gb of data would cost me £405/mth,yes,thats right £405.00 a month! so what if all the sharers on the account get to share it,its still £405 and there's only me on the contract! and to cap it all the woman in question wanted me to pay towards the phone as well!!!
Got a few days ago a update from a friend that works at a vodafone store, just after I got mine they were all called from the vodafone warehouse to HTC because they wanted to fix first some (in my eyes minor) bugs like the pink camera problem...
just like we were told o2 did then...
Just in case you hadn't noticed (well I hadn't anyway!) the HD2 is now available on Virgin Mobile in the UK
http://bit.ly/6tBFFr
The deals seem to blow some of the established ones away
Hardly blown away, to get the free phone you need to sign up for a 2 year tariff and the £35, 18 month tariff isn't much better than what I got from O2. Except I got the phone for less than £2 and they want £20.
Still, some good deals on there, especially if they have good stock levels.
Fair comment. I haven't seen that deal on O2.
It's just that I was about to commit to either a £35 18 month contract or £45 12 month (handsets £free - £90). So £25/m (+£80) seems ok.
But as you say, let's see what the stock levels are like.
this IS the best priced company out there, i ordered mine last night.
18 months, virgin £25, 500 mins, unlimited text and internet to 1gb fair usage, phone cost £80 + £5 postage. with this i got 2 months free so £50 because i am a virgin media customer.
you can get £30 cashback through quidco.com or another cashback site.
even the customer service at tmobile couldn't believe it (when i was getting my PAC) and had to go online to check lol.
25*18 = 450 - 50 = 400 + 85 = 485 for 18 months.
that about the same cost if you took this on vodafone through a third party company (dial-a-phone) but here you can port your number (which i think is an important thing).
iandooley said:
Just in case you hadn't noticed (well I hadn't anyway!) the HD2 is now available on Virgin Mobile in the UK
http://bit.ly/6tBFFr
The deals seem to blow some of the established ones away
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Thanks for posting this. It is a good deal.
Sunil_237 said:
this IS the best priced company out there, i ordered mine last night.
18 months, virgin £25, 500 mins, unlimited text and internet to 1gb fair usage, phone cost £80 + £5 postage. with this i got 2 months free so £50 because i am a virgin media customer.
you can get £30 cashback through quidco.com or another cashback site.
even the customer service at tmobile couldn't believe it (when i was getting my PAC) and had to go online to check lol.
25*18 = 450 - 50 = 400 + 85 = 485 for 18 months.
that about the same cost if you took this on vodafone through a third party company (dial-a-phone) but here you can port your number (which i think is an important thing).
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You are right. It's the best deal I've seen so far and I haven't seen anything close from anyone else with those minutes and Internet included. Add the 2 months free and cashback and it's an outstanding deal.
Do you have your phone yet? If so can you use Skype on it to chat and talk?
Any issues with it?
Also, did it come with the case and an SD card?
Thanks.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!
my virgin contract was up this month aswel!
I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.
Pagnell said:
Hardly blown away, to get the free phone you need to sign up for a 2 year tariff and the £35, 18 month tariff isn't much better than what I got from O2. Except I got the phone for less than £2 and they want £20.
Still, some good deals on there, especially if they have good stock levels.
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Hardly a reason to say the Virgin offer isn't a good deal - show me where O2 advertise a HD2 for £2 on a £20 per month contract? I'm going to say that you can't because it was a retention offer which they probably only offered you because you spent £30+ the previous 18 months with O2.
To concentrate on getting a 'free' phone also shows your naivety in thinking - no handset is offered for free as they are all subsidised according to how much you are paying over the term of the contract (it's funny how the handset becomes 'free' when the monthly price is £35+ over 18+ months isn't it?).
The Virgin mobile tarrifs are extremely good value in comparison to everyone else especially when you compare the overall costs. Now if someone can find out if they are sim unlocked directly from Virgin this will become a stonking deal.
kai_ said:
Now if someone can find out if they are sim unlocked directly from Virgin this will become a stonking deal.
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I'll let you know later. Mine's due to be delivered today
arfster said:
I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.
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I don't think it's way more expensive. In fact I think that it will still be cheaper on Virgin.
How many minutes and texts does your deal come with and what network is it on? Is the Internet "unlimited" on that network and could you please let us know how much you actually paid for the phone? £98, £120, £101?
Thanks.
My deal with T-Mobile was
16GB SD -
£25.00 cashback
Free phone
900 Mins / Unlimited txts and internet
18th Month contract.
£35.00 per month
I moved from 3 to T-Mob to get this phone..
arfster said:
I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.
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Virgin Mobile Tariff (best value/cheapest that I can see):
500 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited internet:
18 months x £25 + £79.99 for handset = £529.99 total cost.
Your tariff:
12 months x £34 + £100-'ish' for handset = £508'ish'
No idea how much 'ish' is and also no idea how many minutes or texts you are getting either for your £508'ish'. Neither can it be said that £22 for 6 extra months usage is 'way more expensive'.
When I was looking for my HD2 I think at the time MobilePhonesDirect were offering the best value for me, can't remember the exact pricing and tariff but overall cost was something in the region of £520 but with only 300 minutes and 200 texts, unlimited data on T-Mobile. That was over a 12 month term I think and also required £102 up front for the handset.
Now considering that the cheapest you're going to get a HD2 outright for is about £450 from Carphonewarehouse (reported by someone, but no idea if it's sim free or not) you can't say that the value of calls/texts/data isn't worth £80? After all, even if you buy the handset outright you've still got to pay for a phone plan of some kind.
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Hardly a reason to say the Virgin offer isn't a good deal - show me where O2 advertise a HD2 for £2 on a £20 per month contract?
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And show me where I said it wasn't a good deal. Take your time.
kai_ said:
To concentrate on getting a 'free' phone also shows your naivety in thinking - no handset is offered for free as they are all subsidised according to how much you are paying over the term of the contract (it's funny how the handset becomes 'free' when the monthly price is £35+ over 18+ months isn't it?).
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You're talking to someone who worked for O2 IT for four years, I'm well aware how this works thanks and that phones are subsidised. And I'd wouldn't say I 'concentrated' on anything, merely talked about something that was relevant.
Still, feel free to continue being patronizing, I'm sure you feel a whole lot better for it.
but ....
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me
kevb said:
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me
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Thanks, now I'm very interested.
If possible could you let me know what your fastest download rate is when you have good coverage. Also if possible could you test out Skype (if you use it).
Thanks again.
DuoM said:
Thanks, now I'm very interested.
If possible could you let me know what your fastest download rate is when you have good coverage. Also if possible could you test out Skype (if you use it).
Thanks again.
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I don't use skype, never felt the urge, i never max my tariff out as is
don't have any any other apps loaded on it yet except for resco explorer and sbp backup.
this is only my 2nd day with it, ordered it online from virgin at about 2:30pm and it was delivered next day by DHL
it was my intention to run the phone "as is" for a while to make sure there are no problems, which means i will not be installing any other software just yet.
if i download any large files files i will try and time it manually if thats any good to you?
any other info you need feel free to ask.
apart from getting used to a (very)sensitive screen compared to my last resistive screen i am still feeling the love for it
kevb said:
I don't use skype, never felt the urge, i never max my tariff out as is
don't have any any other apps loaded on it yet except for resco explorer and sbp backup.
this is only my 2nd day with it, ordered it online from virgin at about 2:30pm and it was delivered next day by DHL
it was my intention to run the phone "as is" for a while to make sure there are no problems, which means i will not be installing any other software just yet.
if i download any large files files i will try and time it manually if thats any good to you?
any other info you need feel free to ask.
apart from getting used to a (very)sensitive screen compared to my last resistive screen i am still feeling the love for it
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Well, you could try and time it manually or you can use the website: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
which should allow you to test the download speed.
The only thing is that I'm not to sure about how accurate it is and their servers seem to be in the USA so that's probably not too good.
I was going to ask about the keyboard but it sounds like it's super sensitive, like others I've tried on the HD2. Can you type on it?
Oh, perhaps you could tell me which ROM version you have and if it came with an SD card and a case (not that I normally use one)?
Thanks.
EDIT: Oh, just saw the ROM in your sig. Did it come with that one?
I was really tempted but then realised you cannot downgrade tariffs at anytime. I personally think going via mobilephonesdirect with topchashback and vf maybe the better option.
Scott
kevb said:
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me
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Perfect!
My T-Mob contract is up in a week, and Virgin was by far the best deal I could find.
Virgin £25pm 18mths + £79.99phone = £529.99
The closest I can get is:
TMob £22.50pm 18ths + £169.99 = £574.99
Virgin give more 300 more minutes and unlimited texts (versus 200), both having unlimited web. I can't find a better deal really. I would perfer O2, but I can't get anywhere near Virgin for mins/txts and phone price. Closest is £20pm + £7.50Web 18mths + £250 phone, making it £745 in total! And you only get 75 minutes!
I was worried about being locked into operator provided updates only (my Diamond was bought from Expansys, so fully unlocked), but this is great news! Thanks!
Quick question: Do I need my PAC code when I order, or can I do it after ordering? I was able to do so when I moved to T-Mob...
I was close to considering...
Tried to coerce O2 into getting near to the Virgin offer but the best they could offer was £35/month 18 month contract, 600 mins, 1000 texts, unlimited wi-fi (after I forced the issue) and unlimited internet with £90 for the phone.
Total cost £720 over the life and although Virgin is £190 cheaper I have broadband with O2 so leaving them would increase my monthly payment by £5 and therefore £90 over the life so Virgin only worked out £100 cheaper for me (though I could've got £30 from Quidco).
£100 is a lot of money but I have no experience of Virgin whereas O2 have always been good to me (and normally very generous with my renewals) and I know I get good reception wherever I need it.
Ordered it around 18.45 and supposedly should receive tomorrow according to the email and text they sent me - weather permitting - though I was told Friday by the guy on the phone.