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SMS recvd from O2: GPRS charging from 31st March

I've just received a text message from O2:
"We hope you enjoyed the mobile internet free promo. Charging begins from 31Mar but remember it is only £3/MB inc VAT. For money saving Bolt Ons see o2.co.uk"
Like many others, I've had the 'Welcome browse and email' item on my bills for the last few months, and never been charged for GPRS.
I guess all good things come to an end... ?

matzie said:
I've just received a text message from O2:
"We hope you enjoyed the mobile internet free promo. Charging begins from 31Mar but remember it is only £3/MB inc VAT. For money saving Bolt Ons see o2.co.uk"
Like many others, I've had the 'Welcome browse and email' item on my bills for the last few months, and never been charged for GPRS.
I guess all good things come to an end... ?
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3 quid a MB, very expensive

I haven't received that SMS yet, but I'm a fairly new customer on Online 200.
Could you post what type of contract/PAYG rate you are on.

ratclj01 said:
3 quid a MB, very expensive
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I know - I wish they would do something about that. If I were PAYG, I could buy a bolt on to make it cheaper, but as a contract customer, there doesn't seem to be a lot I can do about it.
Cheers,
Steve.

I am being charged for GPRS on Data 5. I did for a few weeks get it free but then got charged. I am now limited to my 5MB a month which sucks. I have been in contact with o2 and they have told me that there has been no free mobile web deal. Now they have sent a text saying it's stopping. Should I be getting free GPRS until March 31st?
Euan

I'm with O2 on the Carphone Warehouse and they charge £2.38 per MB I had quite a heated discussion with one of their CS people who seemed to think I was getting a good deal. Needless to say I somehow didn't agree with him.
I'm on the £35 a month tarrif with 200 mins and 100 text.

its been free up untill now??
Ah well, i'm not fussed, plenty of wifi points at uni
JAmes

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Yeah, but if you use data, you're not going to pay that.
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html
Even if you're a low user, the £8/5Mb bunlde with £1 per Meg after that is better than £3 per meg.

I just got the dreaded message as well. I'm on Online 200.

Not got a message myself, but my mate even got a phone call last night from customer services telling him the same.

I just got this message at lunchtime today... Bastards! :?
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted... 8)
Of course, we need to wait and see if they actually do start charging then...

belfast-biker said:
ratclj01 said:
3 quid a MB, very expensive
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Yeah, but if you use data, you're not going to pay that.
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html
Even if you're a low user, the £8/5Mb bunlde with £1 per Meg after that is better than £3 per meg.
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Yeah, but as far as I can see - once you are on a tarrif where they try and charge £3/Mb there's no mechanism of getting any bolt ons or anything (unlike PAYG).
Cheers,
Steve.

I am starting to think PAYG is the way to go for data
How frustrating that Orange will let me have unlimited GPRS (not 3g) for £1 per day - but are not prepared to let me have anywhere near as good a "bolt on" on my contract with them
How long before we catch up with the rest of the world and offer a flat rate (at a reasonable price ) ?

Yeah, buy a PAYG SIM for your Exec and use a real phone (that won't let you down by not ringing or whatever )as a phone!

riite got the message today, I got my exec out of the o2 shop free on £45 a month, 400min 100 txts, (double for the first 6 months) been with the contract from 24th of december, I think that if we could play with settings or just wait it out they will do the deal again in a couple of months, they usually do

StevePritchard said:
belfast-biker said:
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3 quid a MB, very expensive
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Yeah, but if you use data, you're not going to pay that.
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html
Even if you're a low user, the £8/5Mb bunlde with £1 per Meg after that is better than £3 per meg.
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Yeah, but as far as I can see - once you are on a tarrif where they try and charge £3/Mb there's no mechanism of getting any bolt ons or anything (unlike PAYG).
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That makes no sense - are you saying I can't simply add on say, the O2 Data 75Mb bundle for £18.50?

belfast-biker said:
StevePritchard said:
belfast-biker said:
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3 quid a MB, very expensive
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Yeah, but if you use data, you're not going to pay that.
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html
Even if you're a low user, the £8/5Mb bunlde with £1 per Meg after that is better than £3 per meg.
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Yeah, but as far as I can see - once you are on a tarrif where they try and charge £3/Mb there's no mechanism of getting any bolt ons or anything (unlike PAYG).
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I called, and asked, and they told me that there was no way I could purchase any cheaper data allowance on my O2 Online 200 tariff. It's possible that I got through to somebody who didn't know what they were talking about - it's happened before.
Cheers,
Steve.
That makes no sense - are you saying I can't simply add on say, the O2 Data 75Mb bundle for £18.50?
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I have already looked into this. The best bundle we can buy is £5 per month for 4 extra MB's if you want one of the special data tariff's (eg £18.50 for 75 MB's per month) you will have to phone up pretend to be a business and get an additional sim with that Data bundle on it, then you need to get a dual sim holder and switch beteween the 2 every time you want to use data or make a call.

ok, a fiver a month is a good deal - what is it you ask for then? As I said, when I called, I was told there wasn't anything I could have, and that Bolt Ons were only for PAYGO customers.
Cheers,
Steve.

its called browse and download 4 MB's £5 per month

What UK network works best for the Touch HD?

Sorry if this has already been discussed, tried searching but couldn't find the answer I was looking for! Basically, I shall be purchasing this within 24 hours. My friend showed me this phone at the weekend and i was blown away!
Ok been searching and found some good deals for all networks, but what have you guys got and does it effect the phone in anyway? Any networks better that others in regards to the general running of the phone?
I am currently with Voda, and have found http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk are selling it on voda along with a T mobile contract.
Also Orange and O2 on another site. But have bad history with both in regards to signal/customer service etc.
The frustrating thing is why are O2 and Vodafone not selling direct from their website?? Instead need to go though a third party?

That's not a frustrating thing for me...I don't want Vodafone branding over my nice new Touch HD thanks....I got mine from mobilephonesdirect on a Voda contract and they were first class.

Thats true. Ill probably order that tomorrow. Quick stupid question......... im getting one with unlimeted mobile web but then under it, it states web browsing £1 per 15MGB per day? im confused!

Neo187 said:
Thats true. Ill probably order that tomorrow. Quick stupid question......... im getting one with unlimeted mobile web but then under it, it states web browsing £1 per 15MGB per day? im confused!
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www.buymobilephones.net
They have some very good offers - Orange do unlimited (500mb fair usage) data for 5 pounds a month I am quite a heavy data user yet always been okay with the amount.
You can get a free web-book, lcd tv, ps3 or xbox 360 or cashback... and the tariffs are very good.
I have used them time and time again excellent service etc.

Neo187 said:
-The frustrating thing is why are O2 and Vodafone not selling direct from their website?? Instead need to go though a third party?
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That's because Orange have an exclusive distribution deal with HTC in the UK.
So the only way to get it on any network but Orange is through a third party supplier.
Personally I'd say T-Mobile are your best bet.
Their Combi 30 tariff is excellent value (700 mins & unlimited texts) and you can add on their unlimited (1GB fair use policy) W'n'W package for an extra £5.
When I took the phone on that package, it was through eXpansys and I had to pay towards it but the site you've linked to in the first post is offering it on the same package for free, so I wouldn't hesitate if I were you.

I got mine from mobiles.co.uk, network O2, 600 mins, 500 texts, Unlimited texts bolt on for 30 pounds per month, with £75 auto-cash-back. Right after the phone arrived, changed the bolt-on (by requesting O2) to Unlimited data, so ended up with 600 mins, 500 texts, unlimited data for £30 per month. I think its a good deal with an unbranded Touch HD. There's a great thread about buying from mobiles.co.uk. Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443462

o2
I was on voda for years and never had a single problem with connectivity, customer service was always good and I could get through to them when i called every time. I wanted this phone and as i was an early adopter i had to go voda, mistake... where i have not really had any connectivity issues there is a problem with my bill and i havent been able to get through to them in 2 weeks, every time i call i am left waiting 30 mins and then some idiot picks me up and cuts me off and i go back to the beginning again, sometimes i just get bored of waiting and try again later. i have tried about 15 times.

pings to google.com from t-mobile are over a second, thats pretty bad in the modern world.

where to get a HD2 and how...

I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder

terrytpot said:
I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Personally, I bought mine outright from Expansys.com, SIM free. I've got a monthly contract with O2 where I get enough minutes and texts with a web bolt-on for less than £20 a month. It suits me, but then I had £500 to spare (ish )
I always like the idea of going SIM free, in case something comes out that I really want but can't afford it. I'll just get an 18 or 24 month contract in that situtation, and probably try and get something like a PS3 with it, so I can sell my current phone and the console, so I'll end up with a new phone and a wad of cash. That should help make me feel better about signing up to a contract
Since I went the SIM free route, I can't really advise on who has them and who doesn't, as far as contracts go.

terrytpot said:
I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Bad news on the O2 front, they finally had some in store yesterday so I could go over and find out what they will be costing on contract. To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
I will be waiting til vodafone get new stock (with an updated rom) on 11th December. Free phone for £35/month and you get 900mins UNLIMITED texts (3000 FUP), UNLIMITED landline calls (3000mins FUP), UNLIMITED internet (500MB FUP). Plus the vodafone HD's seem to be unlocked and unbranded so in my opinion thats a winning deal and well worth the wait

Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it

terrytpot said:
Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Yeah actually the 300 extra minutes is available online or over the phone. Over the phone the order gets processed right away for next day delivery so I think im gona be doing it that way lol. Waited long enough for it I figure my patience will stretch to a few more days
Could have got it from a vodafone store 2 weeks ago but they dont offer the internet package and I guess im a tight git I want the most value for my money haha.

we're singing from the same book there buddy..I'm hoping to get one on something like the palms tarif and preferably as a business customer..unltd 02 calls,10 unltd land lines and ultd www would do me nicely at £35 ish a mnth even over 24mths as you can upgrade at the 12mth point and get whtaevers hot then

You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...

Just try some different vodafone stores, I went to 20 different and one could tell me 2 weeks ago that they would get one that afternoon so I directly reserved it. If you can't find any on stock the next shipment will come in on 17th of december (north ireland).
Its free with a 35 pounds bussines plan it includes 1000 minutes, Unlimited texts, Unlimited Landlines, Unlimited Internet and Vodafone Passport.
Good luck!

mskip said:
To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
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Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
mskip said:
You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone.
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You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months

Pagnell said:
he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
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which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.

terrytpot said:
which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
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Yes, but I'd rather pay a little bit extra to avoid Vodafone as I think they're an awful network.
As for the deal you mention, as I never go over my 600 minutes anyway, the extras you speak of mean little to me even if they do only cost £5 more. 1000 texts is effectively unlimited to the vast majority of people and O2's unlimited web deal is better for reasons I pointed out above and that is something I use a lot.
No, I'll stick to O2 thanks and I suggest you do the same.

Pagnell said:
Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
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Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
You are right that you can get a free bolt on with O2 but with only 500 texts available instore (I think its doubled to 1000 online) its still not enough for me in business use and I would need that bolt on to upgrade to unlimited texts. That of course means I need to pay extra for the data bolt on
Also with vodafone giving unlimited landline calls it means I can do most of my business calls for free and leave my included minutes for family and friends
I know everyone has their prefered network but for everything they are including and the much cheaper tarif I think my only option is vodafone I just hope the stock comes in on the 11th after putting it back 2 times . When I rang htc yesterday they said the delay was because they are putting extra software on for vodafone so im assuming thats the 360 software.

I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)

spastik said:
You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
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Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive

terrytpot said:
I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
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2 texts a month you CRAZYYY person haha I think my average with sending out quotes and texting clients and friends is about 2500 a month

Mithrandir007 said:
Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
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OMGG thats madd I dont think I would have a mobile phone if I had to fork out that every month ontop of paying full whack for it as well
You should move to the uk lol

mskip said:
Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
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Indeed. I don't think the HD2 is available to new customers on O2 yet, it certainly isn't listed as being available on their website. Which is ridiculous considering I have had it for over two weeks.
mskip said:
I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.

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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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I'm glad you mentioned that actually..my first "chats" with o2 to get this on a business account led me to inquire about the cost of 3gb data allowance..I was quite prepared to stump up £15/mth so I could ditch the dongle from 3 that I use only to be told that 3gb of data would cost me £405/mth,yes,thats right £405.00 a month! so what if all the sharers on the account get to share it,its still £405 and there's only me on the contract! and to cap it all the woman in question wanted me to pay towards the phone as well!!!

Got a few days ago a update from a friend that works at a vodafone store, just after I got mine they were all called from the vodafone warehouse to HTC because they wanted to fix first some (in my eyes minor) bugs like the pink camera problem...

just like we were told o2 did then...

Best deal in UK for HD2?

Hi
I am currently trying to find the best deal in the UK for the HD2. I dont really want to pay more than £30 a month, and hence am happy to a point to pay some money upfront.
So far, I think its mobile phones direct, with t-mobile combi 30 with web and walk over 18 months. I just have to pay £54.99 up front plus I can get £30 cashback off topcashback.
I wondered though if anyone gas found a better deal?
I tried o2, and even with a open discount I have through my work, I have to stump up alot of money. Vodafone deals dont seem so great.
Thoughts?
Scott

Im doing expansys and then simplicity, it's cheaper in the end!

Buying direct from T-Mobile may be a good option. I've found that if you ring them up you can usually get better terms than they advertise on their website. I've just ordered an HD2 from them; £36 a month for 18 months, but the phone is free, and that includes 1000 minutes, 500 texts, and their Web'n'walk Plus internet service (which has a 3GB per month limit rather than the standard 1, and permits tethering). If I'd gone with the standard Web'n'walk package I could have got unlimited texts.
And I'm not very good at haggling - you could probably get a better deal than I did!

I'm on an 18 Month contract with o2 35 a month
600 mins
1000 texts
unlimited 3G internet
95 for the phone

@onisuk, was that through the carphone warehouse though?

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I'm on an 18 Month contract with o2 35 a month
600 mins
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unlimited 3G internet
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I've just had my "unlimited internet" from O2 cut off for hitting 1GB of data in a month.

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I've just had my "unlimited internet" from O2 cut off for hitting 1GB of data in a month.
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kinda makes you wonder how they're allowed to get away with describing something as "unlimited" doesn't it!

slewis1972 said:
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...So far, I think its mobile phones direct, with t-mobile combi 30 with web and walk over 18 months. I just have to pay £54.99 up front plus I can get £30 cashback off topcashback....
Scott
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Thanks for the heads up on the topcashback Scott - Tmobile are really gonna have to take a beating to match this when I come to upgrade from my Diamond (MDA IV)!!!
I'll be offloading the Diamond to Mazuma too - £103 cash or £113 in Argos vouchers. Probably easier than TeaBAy!

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@onisuk, was that through the carphone warehouse though?
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nope direct from O2 !

I'll be offloading the Diamond to Mazuma too - £103 cash or £113 in Argos vouchers. Probably easier than TeaBAy![/QUOTE said:
exactly what i've just done £97 for mmy old N82 ... it payed for my HD2 upgrade ....nice !
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onisuk said:
nope direct from O2 !
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But it's not on their site!? I'm very confused how to find out where to buy it, my iPhone is out of contract in a couple of days and so not sure to hold out and see if they can give me a better deal with the phone rather than haggling over simplicity!

they're available to existing customers, just call up o2 and speak to upgrades or retentions. It probs won't be available for new customers for a while so won't be on the website for a while.
Hope that helps!

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But it's not on their site!? I'm very confused how to find out where to buy it, my iPhone is out of contract in a couple of days and so not sure to hold out and see if they can give me a better deal with the phone rather than haggling over simplicity!
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yep like stated above speak to retentions ( say youre going to leave) and they have the power to offer you a deal, the usual sales guys dont !

onisuk said:
yep like stated above speak to retentions ( say youre going to leave) and they have the power to offer you a deal, the usual sales guys dont !
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Tried this several times but each time I get "we cant give you a deal yet as untill its in stock we cant work out the cost to us..." exasperated doesn't quite cover it!

HD2 available on Virgin Mobile UK

Just in case you hadn't noticed (well I hadn't anyway!) the HD2 is now available on Virgin Mobile in the UK
http://bit.ly/6tBFFr
The deals seem to blow some of the established ones away

Hardly blown away, to get the free phone you need to sign up for a 2 year tariff and the £35, 18 month tariff isn't much better than what I got from O2. Except I got the phone for less than £2 and they want £20.
Still, some good deals on there, especially if they have good stock levels.

Fair comment. I haven't seen that deal on O2.
It's just that I was about to commit to either a £35 18 month contract or £45 12 month (handsets £free - £90). So £25/m (+£80) seems ok.
But as you say, let's see what the stock levels are like.

this IS the best priced company out there, i ordered mine last night.
18 months, virgin £25, 500 mins, unlimited text and internet to 1gb fair usage, phone cost £80 + £5 postage. with this i got 2 months free so £50 because i am a virgin media customer.
you can get £30 cashback through quidco.com or another cashback site.
even the customer service at tmobile couldn't believe it (when i was getting my PAC) and had to go online to check lol.
25*18 = 450 - 50 = 400 + 85 = 485 for 18 months.
that about the same cost if you took this on vodafone through a third party company (dial-a-phone) but here you can port your number (which i think is an important thing).

iandooley said:
Just in case you hadn't noticed (well I hadn't anyway!) the HD2 is now available on Virgin Mobile in the UK
http://bit.ly/6tBFFr
The deals seem to blow some of the established ones away
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Thanks for posting this. It is a good deal.
Sunil_237 said:
this IS the best priced company out there, i ordered mine last night.
18 months, virgin £25, 500 mins, unlimited text and internet to 1gb fair usage, phone cost £80 + £5 postage. with this i got 2 months free so £50 because i am a virgin media customer.
you can get £30 cashback through quidco.com or another cashback site.
even the customer service at tmobile couldn't believe it (when i was getting my PAC) and had to go online to check lol.
25*18 = 450 - 50 = 400 + 85 = 485 for 18 months.
that about the same cost if you took this on vodafone through a third party company (dial-a-phone) but here you can port your number (which i think is an important thing).
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You are right. It's the best deal I've seen so far and I haven't seen anything close from anyone else with those minutes and Internet included. Add the 2 months free and cashback and it's an outstanding deal.
Do you have your phone yet? If so can you use Skype on it to chat and talk?
Any issues with it?
Also, did it come with the case and an SD card?
Thanks.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!
my virgin contract was up this month aswel!

I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.

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Hardly blown away, to get the free phone you need to sign up for a 2 year tariff and the £35, 18 month tariff isn't much better than what I got from O2. Except I got the phone for less than £2 and they want £20.
Still, some good deals on there, especially if they have good stock levels.
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Hardly a reason to say the Virgin offer isn't a good deal - show me where O2 advertise a HD2 for £2 on a £20 per month contract? I'm going to say that you can't because it was a retention offer which they probably only offered you because you spent £30+ the previous 18 months with O2.
To concentrate on getting a 'free' phone also shows your naivety in thinking - no handset is offered for free as they are all subsidised according to how much you are paying over the term of the contract (it's funny how the handset becomes 'free' when the monthly price is £35+ over 18+ months isn't it?).
The Virgin mobile tarrifs are extremely good value in comparison to everyone else especially when you compare the overall costs. Now if someone can find out if they are sim unlocked directly from Virgin this will become a stonking deal.

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Now if someone can find out if they are sim unlocked directly from Virgin this will become a stonking deal.
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I'll let you know later. Mine's due to be delivered today

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I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.
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I don't think it's way more expensive. In fact I think that it will still be cheaper on Virgin.
How many minutes and texts does your deal come with and what network is it on? Is the Internet "unlimited" on that network and could you please let us know how much you actually paid for the phone? £98, £120, £101?
Thanks.

My deal with T-Mobile was
16GB SD -
£25.00 cashback
Free phone
900 Mins / Unlimited txts and internet
18th Month contract.
£35.00 per month
I moved from 3 to T-Mob to get this phone..

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I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.
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Virgin Mobile Tariff (best value/cheapest that I can see):
500 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited internet:
18 months x £25 + £79.99 for handset = £529.99 total cost.
Your tariff:
12 months x £34 + £100-'ish' for handset = £508'ish'
No idea how much 'ish' is and also no idea how many minutes or texts you are getting either for your £508'ish'. Neither can it be said that £22 for 6 extra months usage is 'way more expensive'.
When I was looking for my HD2 I think at the time MobilePhonesDirect were offering the best value for me, can't remember the exact pricing and tariff but overall cost was something in the region of £520 but with only 300 minutes and 200 texts, unlimited data on T-Mobile. That was over a 12 month term I think and also required £102 up front for the handset.
Now considering that the cheapest you're going to get a HD2 outright for is about £450 from Carphonewarehouse (reported by someone, but no idea if it's sim free or not) you can't say that the value of calls/texts/data isn't worth £80? After all, even if you buy the handset outright you've still got to pay for a phone plan of some kind.

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Hardly a reason to say the Virgin offer isn't a good deal - show me where O2 advertise a HD2 for £2 on a £20 per month contract?
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And show me where I said it wasn't a good deal. Take your time.
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To concentrate on getting a 'free' phone also shows your naivety in thinking - no handset is offered for free as they are all subsidised according to how much you are paying over the term of the contract (it's funny how the handset becomes 'free' when the monthly price is £35+ over 18+ months isn't it?).
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You're talking to someone who worked for O2 IT for four years, I'm well aware how this works thanks and that phones are subsidised. And I'd wouldn't say I 'concentrated' on anything, merely talked about something that was relevant.
Still, feel free to continue being patronizing, I'm sure you feel a whole lot better for it.

but ....
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me

kevb said:
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me
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Thanks, now I'm very interested.
If possible could you let me know what your fastest download rate is when you have good coverage. Also if possible could you test out Skype (if you use it).
Thanks again.

DuoM said:
Thanks, now I'm very interested.
If possible could you let me know what your fastest download rate is when you have good coverage. Also if possible could you test out Skype (if you use it).
Thanks again.
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I don't use skype, never felt the urge, i never max my tariff out as is
don't have any any other apps loaded on it yet except for resco explorer and sbp backup.
this is only my 2nd day with it, ordered it online from virgin at about 2:30pm and it was delivered next day by DHL
it was my intention to run the phone "as is" for a while to make sure there are no problems, which means i will not be installing any other software just yet.
if i download any large files files i will try and time it manually if thats any good to you?
any other info you need feel free to ask.
apart from getting used to a (very)sensitive screen compared to my last resistive screen i am still feeling the love for it

kevb said:
I don't use skype, never felt the urge, i never max my tariff out as is
don't have any any other apps loaded on it yet except for resco explorer and sbp backup.
this is only my 2nd day with it, ordered it online from virgin at about 2:30pm and it was delivered next day by DHL
it was my intention to run the phone "as is" for a while to make sure there are no problems, which means i will not be installing any other software just yet.
if i download any large files files i will try and time it manually if thats any good to you?
any other info you need feel free to ask.
apart from getting used to a (very)sensitive screen compared to my last resistive screen i am still feeling the love for it
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Well, you could try and time it manually or you can use the website: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
which should allow you to test the download speed.
The only thing is that I'm not to sure about how accurate it is and their servers seem to be in the USA so that's probably not too good.
I was going to ask about the keyboard but it sounds like it's super sensitive, like others I've tried on the HD2. Can you type on it?
Oh, perhaps you could tell me which ROM version you have and if it came with an SD card and a case (not that I normally use one)?
Thanks.
EDIT: Oh, just saw the ROM in your sig. Did it come with that one?

I was really tempted but then realised you cannot downgrade tariffs at anytime. I personally think going via mobilephonesdirect with topchashback and vf maybe the better option.
Scott

kevb said:
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me
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Perfect!
My T-Mob contract is up in a week, and Virgin was by far the best deal I could find.
Virgin £25pm 18mths + £79.99phone = £529.99
The closest I can get is:
TMob £22.50pm 18ths + £169.99 = £574.99
Virgin give more 300 more minutes and unlimited texts (versus 200), both having unlimited web. I can't find a better deal really. I would perfer O2, but I can't get anywhere near Virgin for mins/txts and phone price. Closest is £20pm + £7.50Web 18mths + £250 phone, making it £745 in total! And you only get 75 minutes!
I was worried about being locked into operator provided updates only (my Diamond was bought from Expansys, so fully unlocked), but this is great news! Thanks!
Quick question: Do I need my PAC code when I order, or can I do it after ordering? I was able to do so when I moved to T-Mob...

I was close to considering...
Tried to coerce O2 into getting near to the Virgin offer but the best they could offer was £35/month 18 month contract, 600 mins, 1000 texts, unlimited wi-fi (after I forced the issue) and unlimited internet with £90 for the phone.
Total cost £720 over the life and although Virgin is £190 cheaper I have broadband with O2 so leaving them would increase my monthly payment by £5 and therefore £90 over the life so Virgin only worked out £100 cheaper for me (though I could've got £30 from Quidco).
£100 is a lot of money but I have no experience of Virgin whereas O2 have always been good to me (and normally very generous with my renewals) and I know I get good reception wherever I need it.
Ordered it around 18.45 and supposedly should receive tomorrow according to the email and text they sent me - weather permitting - though I was told Friday by the guy on the phone.