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Is it worth the extra 500 US Dollars

to purchase the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 instead of the AT&T branded Samsung Captivate?

xhalz said:
to purchase the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 instead of the AT&T branded Samsung Captivate?
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I think it's more like $150-$200 difference without a contract.
With the Galaxy S you get a front-facing camera, as well as an unlocked phone without carrier logos plastered on the front - which alone might be worth it to many.
I also much prefer the large middle button on the Galaxy S, than the 4-button array on the carrier phones.

I understand the front facing camera and I much prefer the design of the I9000 but if I buy Captivate it will be with 2yr contract and I don't know if it is enough to justify the extra cash especially if I cannot upgrade to iPhone 4 and sell for profit.
If my Samsung Captivate is rooted the software on both devices will be the same correct?

xhalz said:
to purchase the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 instead of the AT&T branded Samsung Captivate?
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Do you live in an area with 1900mhz 3g coverage? If not, you will be able to use only edge with the i9000.
I bought the SGS for AT&T because of the front camera, no AT&T tampering, and I prefer the SGS look over the Captivate. Also, I don't live anywhere near 3g, so I'm okay with just edge. But it did cost me an arm and a leg.

Is there a map where I can see 850 mhz v 1900 mhz I found one but it is old

A map would be great.
In my part of Los Angeles, I get 3G/H on AT&T probably 70% of the time, the rest is E.

well I decided to purchase the Samsung Captivate, but would still like a map in case I decide to switch within 30 days

It might also be possible for you to get the dumb phone data plan if you have an international version of the Galaxy S because AT&T probably wouldn't have their IMEI numbers... But then again, I'm not 100% sure on how they do their sweeps so dont quote me on this

Afaik you won't be able to use custom roms, becouse of diffrences that captivate has. So yes its worth to pay more...
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk

where would one buy the unlocked international version?
Does it have all the features that are missing in different versions of this phone? Such as camera flash, front camera etc?
Bell Canada is getting this phone, but it won't have flash. Not sure what other differences it will have.

ogg1e said:
where would one buy the unlocked international version?
Does it have all the features that are missing in different versions of this phone? Such as camera flash, front camera etc?
Bell Canada is getting this phone, but it won't have flash. Not sure what other differences it will have.
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international version is the first version to come out and no it does not have camera flash, but it does have front camera. I got mine from ebay.

INeedYourHelp said:
international version is the first version to come out and no it does not have camera flash, but it does have front camera. I got mine from ebay.
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Is there a version of this phone that has all the features? Sounds like the Bell Canada one will be the same as the international one.

Most importantly, the international model is 900/2100 mhz only while at&t is 850/2100 mhz. So big difference in radios
Sent back in time from my Samsung Galaxy SSS

Confirmed Rogers Galaxy S = AT&T Captivate

Pre-order has begun
http://www.rogers.com/web/content/s...less_0910_Eng-_-SamsungGalaxyS_WIR_LowerBadge
I'm quite sure they'll find them-self most of their own clientèle using a Galaxy S will end up being the i9000m from their rival Bell
LOL

wonder if upload speed will be disabled like att model
also wonder why they didnt pick up the i9000m (better phone) like the bell version?

500 Minutes + 1 GB Data7 + Unlimited Social Networking
$70.00/month
jesus christ thats expensive thats like £44 a month

who knows said:
500 Minutes + 1 GB Data7 + Unlimited Social Networking
$70.00/month
jesus christ thats expensive thats like £44 a month
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Yep, the big 3 tel companies pretty much have the market all to themselves thanks to the CRTC. No competition = crap deals for the consumer.

who knows said:
500 Minutes + 1 GB Data7 + Unlimited Social Networking
$70.00/month
jesus christ thats expensive thats like £44 a month
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You have no freaking idea buddy. A few years ago we were paying activation fees which I believe were around $7. On top of that we have to pay for voice mail and caller ID, a package which you can get for $10-15 and which I believe is already included in US plans. Plus they make you pay to use tethering if you don't have a plan that's > 500MB and you also have to pay for the use of the front facing camera.
Basically the big 3 (Bell, Telus and Rogers) are huge shysters.
Edit: I think my old plan came out to around $50 for 350min + national 10 + VM and CID. That's a Telus plan with system activation fee and all that crap.

Well, I've already got an unlocked Bell Vibrant running on Rogers. Granted, buying it out right was kinda painful but I'd rather get the better hardware.
As for pricing, Rogers does have terrible pricing unless you've been with them for a while. Side note, if you're signing up with Rogers or upgrading, you have until September 30th to get 6GB data as a $30 add-on. The deal also applies to Fido.

why do you guys prefer bells i9000's over the captivate?
I've been waiting for months now for rogers to get the captivate.
no way im going back to bell...

Berserk87 said:
why do you guys prefer bells i9000's over the captivate?
I've been waiting for months now for rogers to get the captivate.
no way im going back to bell...
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you don't need to go to Bell to get the I9000M
you can unlock I9000M and use it with Rogers / Fido / Telus
i'm using it with Fido
the Vibrant I9000M is way better than the Captivate SGH-I897
the Captivate is crippled, the Vibrant is full feature just like the UK version I9000

AllGamer said:
you don't need to go to Bell to get the I9000M
you can unlock I9000M and use it with Rogers / Fido / Telus
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I know that, but I prefer the design of the captivate over the i9000.
the i9000 feels cheap and looks like an iphone.
AllGamer said:
you don't need to go to Bell to get the I9000M
the Captivate is crippled, the Vibrant is full feature just like the UK version I9000
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whats crippled on it?
the only thing I know of is the market which is easily fixed.

It doesnt have the front camera nor video calling for one

KaliKot said:
It doesnt have the front camera nor video calling for one
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I don't care about video calling at all, I can't think of a single time I would use that.
I would't drop $500 on a phone just to have it feel cheap, and have everyone walk up to me saying "is that the new iphone?"

LMAO it happens to me all the time, "wow is that new iphone" then i point to the big silver samsung logo and they are like "OMG what phone is that!"

is not having the front facing camera the only difference?
can the bell version (i9000M) still flash the i9000 firmware from the US models?

I believe the captivate is also missing fm radio, not sure though.
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

Berserk87 said:
is not having the front facing camera the only difference?
can the bell version (i9000M) still flash the i9000 firmware from the US models?
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there are no USA i9000 models
there are UK i9000 models
all USA models are not compatible with I9000M

Berserk87 said:
is not having the front facing camera the only difference?
can the bell version (i9000M) still flash the i9000 firmware from the US models?
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also the u.s. captivate models have 3g upload speed disabled..

lgkahn said:
also the u.s. captivate models have 3g upload speed disabled..
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i hope this is a Network related thing, and not a phone thing
but being ROGERS... they are more than capable
they copy everything from AT&T, unfortunately they don't copy the better price plans offered by AT&T

AllGamer said:
i hope this is a Network related thing, and not a phone thing
but being ROGERS... they are more than capable
they copy everything from AT&T, unfortunately they don't copy the better price plans offered by AT&T
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no we know it is a phone related thing i read some of the threads on it when i was thinking of getting one.. they worked around it with alternate kernels from i9000 but then the rotation and buttons were hosed up.. dont remember if they ever totally worked around it.. i think maybe with a custom kernel

wow! that explains a lot why the I9000M version is so popular down in the south

knowing Rogers they will have Samsung Lock down the phone so its hard to do anything with.. like root. try different roms.

I9000 With 850MHZ 3G

What I9000 models have 850 3g?
I know the I9000m does but what others?

i9000b and i9000t both 8gb internal instead of the 16 of the i9000m but both known to not have flash problems like the i9000m..
i picked up an i9000t at newegg. after sending in my i9000m for repair.. but they seem to be out of stock now..
expansys-usa.com has some of the i9000t in stock

yeah man, go with the i9000t, it's way safer!

newegg is back in stock and price lowered to 584.. can get 8% back from fat wallet also, and an extra 10 off for opening a perfered acct.

just reading about the different i9000 models available, how do i know what one i have? it says on the box GT-I9000

Thanks Guys,
This is a thread for people in the usa who want a unit with the correct radio in it.
As for me.
I have a ATT Captivate and i9000 base roms with the kernel (19000 Kernel) edited to work run better on the Captivate.

steve57925 said:
just reading about the different i9000 models available, how do i know what one i have? it says on the box GT-I9000
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Units like the I9000b and m. I know that there are others.

lgkahn said:
newegg is back in stock and price lowered to 584.. can get 8% back from fat wallet also, and an extra 10 off for opening a perfered acct.
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"lowered" LOL
they are way over charging, the phone should be less than street, price, yet they cost so much more, and you still have to add TAX + Shipping on top of it.
but unfortunately, there are no many choices to buy the I9000T online

steve57925 said:
just reading about the different i9000 models available, how do i know what one i have? it says on the box GT-I9000
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check the SGS wiki
you can find out looking at the sticker in the battery compartment

AllGamer said:
check the SGS wiki
you can find out looking at the sticker in the battery compartment
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nice one thanks

I had no idea there were unbranded unlocked galaxy s phones with the 850mhz wcdma 3g band. The international galaxy s came with 900/1900/2100 3g bands which has the 1900 3g band for at&t.

diffrence between this and the i9000 galaxy S?

hey guys
just wondering what the diffrence is between the galaxy S fascinate and the galaxy S i9000 is?
i cant find any direct comparisons.
can anyone please help me?

The i9000 is a GSM phone. Fascinate is a CDMA phone.

The i9000 also has an FM radio, we don't

Kevin Gossett said:
The i9000 is a GSM phone. Fascinate is a CDMA phone.
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what does that mean? can i still use one here in australia? was thinking of buying one of these, its NextG compatible to, which is what i want.
imnuts said:
The i9000 also has an FM radio, we don't
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i dont care for radios so no big deal there

i9000 has a Front-Facing camera I believe.

From a bit of research (i.e. Googling ) it would appear that Australia's CDMA network was shut down in 2008, and the GSM network became the only option. A CDMA-only phone won't work on a GSM network, and vice-versa. There are a few phones that support both CDMA and GSM (such as the Droid 2 Global), but most only support one or the other. It would appear that the Fascinate would be pretty much useless in Australia, although the i9000 should work fine if it uses the same set of frequencies as they use there.

Product F(RED) said:
i9000 has a Front-Facing camera I believe.
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yeah mine has a front facing camera, reason i want one is my galaxy S isn't NextG so its slow as **** on the internet, i want a NextG one but the fascinate is the only one they have on stick
it says network is GSM to ??
http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/samsung-fascinate-nextg.html

aussiesausage said:
yeah mine has a front facing camera, reason i want one is my galaxy S isn't NextG so its slow as **** on the internet, i want a NextG one but the fascinate is the only one they have on stick
it says network is GSM to ??
http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/samsung-fascinate-nextg.html
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The Fascinate is a CDMA phone. In the US, it's sold on Verizon Wireless. It has 384 MB of RAM in exchange for larger internal storage and camera flash. The Epic is a CDMA phone. It's arguably the best out of all of the US variants. It has a slide-out keyboard and six-axis accelerometer and Front-Facing camera and 5MP camera with single-LED flash. It's sold on Sprint. The Vibrant is closes to the original i9000. It's basically the same except that it has no front-facing camera (although the space to add one is still there) and it has 4 capacitive buttons on the front instead of the original 2. It's GSM. The Captivate is the same as the Vibrant except it's sold on AT&T and, by default, can't sideload applications because of AT&T's stupid restrictions.

The only differences are as many before me have said : Its a CDMA phone, It lacks a front facing camera, and It doesn't have the same amount of internal storage as the i9000 (we do still have 512 megs of RAM, the system only makes 3 something available to android like with all of the S variants). In your situation though it sounds like you'd be better off with an i909. Its basically the 9000 with both CDMA and GSM support but its only for the Chinese market so it may be a bit hard to come across (Ive been hunting for one for the longest myslf to no avail)

What about the Samsung Captivate?
If i got one of them would i be going from good to worse if i sell my Galaxy S i9000?
Really want a NextG and can get a Captivate for $599 ( NextG version )

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Samsung had a gsm model on the market. Isn't that what TelUs in Canada uses?
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CDMA only works in the US. GSM is global. So don't worry about the features. make sure the device works on your network FIRST

If it's being sold in Aus it's probably the Telus Fascinate. OP, is the model # T959D (Telus) or i500 (Verizon)?
Both the Telus Fascinate and the AT&T/Rogers Captivate are GSM phones with the 850 band used for 3g down under. Only the Telus has HSUPA, though, so it may be slightly faster.

takylo said:
CDMA only works in the US. GSM is global. So don't worry about the features. make sure the device works on your network FIRST
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Not true. CDMA is in the US, Canada, and several countries around the world including Japan and even Australia, up until 2008.
However, with CDMA, there is no SIM card to switch and it's a ***** to switch networks and take your phone with you unless the new network doesn't care if you bring outside phones.

ok just called them up and its the TelUS version, so its the GSM version, and NextG will work
fascinate a good pick then after i sell my i9000?
also, they are trying to tell me this phone now
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-vibrant-galaxy-s-16gb.html
is that good after selling my i9000?

Uh, no. The Bell Vibrant (i9000m) would be ok, but that's the T mo one which has different and incompatible bands.

s44 said:
Uh, no. The Bell Vibrant (i9000m) would be ok, but that's the T mo one which has different and incompatible bands.
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it says GSM 850 which is telstra NextG
my god this mobile **** is pee-ing me off, its so hard

No it doesn't: look at the fine print at the link.
Just get the Telus.

The tmobile vibrant does in-fact support the 850 band when its unlocked (just search for tmobile vibrant on AT&T because I cant link it) so either model works
Edit: Or not i suffered from foot in mouth syndrome it only supports the 1900 band

Hitokiri24 said:
The tmobile vibrant does in-fact support the 850 band when its unlocked (just search for tmobile vibrant on AT&T because I cant link it) so either model works
Edit: Or not i suffered from foot in mouth syndrome it only supports the 1900 band
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You can unlock it yourself. There are apps on and off the market that will do it for you. Also, the T-Mobile version supports both T-Mobile's and AT&T's 3G frequencies.

Possible to Enable HSPA+ AWS Bands onSM-N910W8

Wondering if this is possible or am I too early? Surely I'm not the only one in who'd like to use his note on Wind in Canada....

klow7 said:
Wondering if this is possible or am I too early? Surely I'm not the only one in who'd like to use his note on Wind in Canada....
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mot sure but I think all the "w8" have the aws band on hspa+

I am guessing (keyword) that it may be like the Note 3 where Samsung will say no but realistically the phones are all the same regardless carrier. You would just have to unlock a Big 3 phone and you would be good to go.

Squirrel_Master said:
I am guessing (keyword) that it may be like the Note 3 where Samsung will say no but realistically the phones are all the same regardless carrier. You would just have to unlock a Big 3 phone and you would be good to go.
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yeah exactly.....Samsung always stay quiet about this......but they"re all the same phone /same soft in fact... like the international variant...they just didn't write all the compatibility band, but in fact most of them have all the band required to work in north America....guy just bought them and it work perfectly even with lte everything....

klow7 said:
Wondering if this is possible or am I too early? Surely I'm not the only one in who'd like to use his note on Wind in Canada....
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Try this thread and this Qualcomm NV Calculator app.