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Thinking of buying and rooting a Droid X

I may be upgrading to the X soon from a rooted Eris. I've read threads for a couple hours now and keep reading about a sbf. What is it and how do you do it? Also, is Clockwork (I believe Koush modded it somehow) the only recovery available? I currently use Amon Ra recovery on my Eris to wipe and flash roms/updates/themes. Apparently there's a different process for the X that I don't yet understand.
This is how I see the whole rom flashing process working - please correct me if I'm wrong: First you root, then install the recovery app (is it an app? It replaces the recovery partition on the Eris). To boot into recovery you run the app. From there you can wipe data and dalvik, and flash roms/updates. Can you also back up and restore roms? Also, I read something about mounting /system to flash roms. So that means it's really only making changes in the system folder. Is /data affected? If not, are apps carried over from rom to rom?
How high can the X be overclocked?
Are there any CyanogenMod roms available?
Has anyone bricked an X? Is this common or only if you're careless?
I really appreciate any feedback. Like I said, I'm not new to rooting but know very little about the X and from what I've read the process is a bit different than what I'm used to.

The SBF is basically a factory reset, it restores the X to it's factory state
Great if you happen to mess up while flashing a new ROM
The Bootstrap is an application, there is currently no way to flash a recovery to our bootloader.
This said, it still can still wipe cache, /system, /data, davlik, and backup/flash/update ROMs.
There are options to mount certain partitions and some roms need this before you install them such as Fission which needs /system and /data.
Some ROMs suggest clearing /data when you install them, just read their instructions.
If you do not clear /data, then your apps will carry over, since they reside in /data/app/.
I have heard the X overclocked up to 2.0ghz, but I also heard this is unstable.
I have heard of stable clocks of 1.15, 1.2, 1.3.
YMMV, as mine only can go up to 1.1 before it freezes.
There are 2 apps that I know of that make overclocking easy.
They are $0.99 for each.
I prefer the one called Droid 2/X Overclock http://www.appbrain.com/app/droid-x-2-overclock/com.jrummy.droidx.overclock
Cyanogen ROMs are not available on the X due to our locked bootloader
I'm sure many have bricked or bootlooped their X, but in most cases, the sbf can save you.

Zanix,
Thanks for the fast and informative response. Your OC app suggestion is well noted. If I cannot get Setcpu to work I'll probably use it.
How is internal memory on the X? Verizon boasts that it has 8 GB but surely it doesn't have that much left for apps and processes after all is said and done. My phone currently only has 159 MB (depending on the size of the rom I use) so the X will be a nice upgrade for me.

SetCPU works fine on my Droid X; after I rooted it, obviously. However, SetCPU does not overclock. It underclocks. SetCPU is meant to save you battery life by throttling the CPU.
The linked app is specifically for overclocking the Droid 2/X. It serves a different purpose, ie getting more performance out of your phone.
Just wanted to make sure you are aware of that distinction.

joshw0000 said:
Zanix,
Thanks for the fast and informative response. Your OC app suggestion is well noted. If I cannot get Setcpu to work I'll probably use it.
How is internal memory on the X? Verizon boasts that it has 8 GB but surely it doesn't have that much left for apps and processes after all is said and done. My phone currently only has 159 MB (depending on the size of the rom I use) so the X will be a nice upgrade for me.
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The X has 8GB of internal storage (ROM), less space taken for the included system files and applications. Mine shows 7.02GB with 6.67GB free. The Eris has far less space if I recall, only 512MB total. You'll be able to install apps to the X to your heart's content.
The Droid X also has 512MB of RAM for processes to use, vs 288MB that the Eris has.

I'll be talking to Verizon very soon!
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How is the battery life on a rooted Droid X?
I have a HTC Incredible that my wife wants so I am thinking of getting the X as nothing better is out.
Simply afraid the battery will suck or Rooting and such will be way to tough.
Does ROM manager work with the X?

The battery on the X can't be any worse than the Incredible. HTC (I love their phones - had 1 before my X and will be getting one soon) is notoriously bad at battery consumption. I think you can expect to be on e at the end of the night with a day of moderate use.
Rooting is easy. Download "Z4Root" from the market. Hit the "Root me" button. You are good to go.
Rom manager works. But not much in there. I love Rubix. A lot of people are using Fission.
You know that the X has a locked boot loader so there are no custom kernels right? Although they did come up with a way to overclock (and under clock).

What does having a locked boot loader restrict you from doing, other than changing the kernel and adding custom boot images (the splash image displayed before the boot animation)? I know that it's made the custom recovery image difficult but it sounds like you have a work-around. Anything I left off?
...talked to Verizon today. I can transfer my mother-in-law's upgrade to my line and upgrade for $200. One of my buddies wants my Eris for his wife for $150. So for $50 I should be getting an X soon!

joshw0000 said:
What does having a locked boot loader restrict you from doing, other than changing the kernel and adding custom boot images (the splash image displayed before the boot animation)? I know that it's made the custom recovery image difficult but it sounds like you have a work-around. Anything I left off?
...talked to Verizon today. I can transfer my mother-in-law's upgrade to my line and upgrade for $200. One of my buddies wants my Eris for his wife for $150. So for $50 I should be getting an X soon!
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Even with a locked bootloader you can still change the boot logo and the boot animation.
But you cannot change the kernel. Is it that big of deal? Well it means all of the great roms - Cyanogen, Bugles Beast, etc, will never run on the X because they all use a custom kernel.
Oh- and you can never run even a simple AOSP rom - just plain old stock android - because of the motorola kernel. You can run a pretty good imitation of the stock android rom - but it is till just that - an imitation.
It also means that when verizon wireless and motorola abandon the X project (whenever that is) that we will no longer be able to update our OS. We could get stuck on 2.3 gingerbread while the Droid 1 is running 3.5 Lemon Meringue- bc the Droid 1 bootloader is unlocked.
Not really a big deal though to me. I am just going to buy a new phone. And it will not be a motorola. I love my X. But I want to do what I want to do. Just me though.

Coming from the HTC Eris, I can say that I feel the pain but I'm pretty sure the bootloader will one day be unlocked. It only takes one disgruntled Moto employee to slip it and there are no limitations from there. It took several months for the Eris to get an unlocked bootloader. In fact, we thought we'd never even get rooted. It's an EOL phone that never received an official 2.2 OTA. Thanks to the developers, it has vanilla and sense 2.2 roms.
My biggest complaint with the Eris is the physical hardware limitations. The X dominates it so I think I'll be happy on a stock kernel until the bootloader is unlocked.
...should be arriving Tuesday.
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I just came from an Eris myself last week. The things you're used to with the Eris are a little more difficult on the X, but once you get in the swing of it, you get used to it. Also, go with the Certified pre-owned. I got it for $150 and it looks brand new, you literally cannot tell. It's worth the extra $50 off. I sold my Eris on eBay for $162.50 so it was nice getting paid to get a new DX lol. You won't regret switching!

My Droid X came in 2 days ago. I rooted it last night. I'm going to keep the stock rom until I've had enough time to get the feel for the X. I kinda like the Moto Blur. Any rom suggestions? Something semi stock with Blur, only deodexed and OC'ed.
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joshw0000 said:
Any rom suggestions? Something semi stock with Blur, only deodexed and OC'ed.
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rubiX blurry 1.5.2 is a good ROM, leaves the blur in tact but slims it down and speeds it up. I don't beleive there are any kernal tweaks in it though, so you may get jrummy's oc app

1KDS said:
rubiX blurry 1.5.2 is a good ROM, leaves the blur in tact but slims it down and speeds it up. I don't beleive there are any kernal tweaks in it though, so you may get jrummy's oc app
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That's the one I used. Then I updated it to 1.6.3 and themed it with the black and green juice theme. So far I'm happy with it. Idk why he changed the build to read that it's 2.2.1. Scared me at first. I thought I had accidentally flashed a leaked rom....I'm starting to learn my way around the DX.
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Droid X or dinc??

My wife's og Droid took a poop so I bought an Incredible which I'll have in a day or 2. I love my X but am thinking about swapping her to have something new (to me) to play with until I upgrade this summer. Has anyone here had both and prefer one over the other? Decisions decisions....

Droid X all the way. Moto is the way to go, I've expierienced nothing but problems with HTC (all models), not to mention horrible battery life.

I just came from the Dinc a month ago to the X. I have always used HTC devices from the old windows op to their first android to the DInc. I also (as in the post above me) have had issues with the HTC, but, I am brand loyal. I like the development side of HTC over Motorola. THere are MANY more ROMS and custom things available for the HTC devices. That is the one thing I miss. With the Dinc..there are Incredible 2 and S roms available that give you the newer SenseUI. IT IS AMAZING!! along with HTC HUB to download more themes and skins..along with sound sets! It really is amazing, the level of custom things that can be done with HTC devices.
There was talk with HTC and Verizon to be more locked down, however, HTC has agreed to not back root access more difficult..a day after the Thunderbolt was released..it was hacked.
The only reason I went with the Droid X was because of the 29.99 price. I am going back to HTC.
With the Droid X (it appears) everytime you want to go back to stock you have to SBF (which is not a big issue), however, to do that you need access to a computer. THAT IS NOT THE CASE with the Dinc. I have been at work and switched ROMS 5 or 6 times..the back-ups are stored and can easily be re-loaded on the go. The functionality is FAR better than the Motorola in that aspect.
If you are the type to "tinker" constantly with the ROMS and phone, go with HTC, if you are ok with having to have a computer handy to switch out from custom to stock and back..stick with Motorola.
My opinions.
If the HTC SenseUI is not what your looking for..there ARE MANY ROMS that use vanilla and 2.3 operating systems. There are also MIUI ROMS if you want the complete look of the iphone and functionality of android systems.
there really is NO LIMIT to the customization of HTC.
Google "the incredible list"...it is just a brief run down of the custom ROMS and tweaks..about 40 or so..and it is not updated often.
CM7 is my personal favorite ROM for the DInc...ALOT of custom features..
Now technically stuff vs opinion:
I believe the X has more internal storage. Both phones are capable of holding and supporting 32gb memory cards though. Screen size is another difference. The X is 4.3 and the Dinc is 3.7. (I download alot of movies and store them on my SD card so the 4.3 on the X is better). Both have 8mp cameras. The Dinc is a 720p output and does NOT have an HDMI output like the X. However, there are many ROMS that include "TVOut" for the Dinc. Most of the newer ROMS (I could be mistaken, not sure these have been fixed yet) are not capable of running the 720p video, now..ALOT of people were working on getting that fixed.
With the fact the bootoader is unlocked on the Dinc, you can run many different style ROMS that give you the same look and feel of the X. again, the technical differences are still there.
It really comes down to: do you want the true full ability to customize?
EDIT:: Regarding battery life mentioned in the above post. I easily went 24-36 hours with normal use and no need for a charge. Use SETCPU and custom setting to scale cpu by time, battery levels, and screen off and you are good to go.

Well, as much as the X is a better phone... The Incredible, from what I understand, is much easier to modify. Pretty sure the bootloader is unlocked, aswell.
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I answered the dinc side of this topic just a second ago before I came and looked at my "home" section, but I want to add that the DX is better as long as you aren't planning on using a ton of custom roms/kernels.
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Thanks for all the feedback, everyone!
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I answered the dinc side of this topic just a second ago before I came and looked at my "home" section, but I want to add that the DX is better as long as you aren't planning on using a ton of custom roms/kernels.
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Kinda what I was thinking. And yea I had to post in both sections to help weed out the "my phone is better" people.
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[Q] New DX - Root?

Hey Everyone,
I lost my old Eris and getting a Droid X today. I rooted and overclocked my Eris because it was so slow. My question is it worth Rooting a DX? It will be so much faster than my old phone and not sure if its worth risking the warranty on it. Any advice would be appreciated.
I'm guessing I can run CyangenMOD on a DX, overclock it, etc...
Thanks

CM is in a pretty early beta for the DX right now. Haven't been keeping up with what is working and what isn't, but it's supposed to be pretty stable overall.
I've been messing around with overclocking the past few days, but you are right that the phone is pretty fast on it's own. Milestone overclock + SetCPU for profiles.
I've been having stability issues, heat issues, and random reboots. But the troubleshooting and tweaking is what I love about android.
If your on GB already you won't be able to root right away. You'll need to sbf back to froyo and follow one of the stickie tutorials from there.
Good luck.

I think it is worth it cm4dx is amazing work and a great acoplisment by cvpcs. Also if you have trouble rooting one app has always worked for me and that superoneclick if I have that right, just fyi, I had trouble rooting mine with z4root etc.

Well there are several things to read before rooting. The best thing would probably to go to the top of this section (Droid X General) and read the "noob to Droid x" topic, since it has a HUGE HUGE amount of info on rooting, deodexing, etc.
One of the MAIN reasons why people root is to get new roms: mainly because of skins/crap-apps that default on device which cause it to slow down, side loaded apps: such as wireless tethering apps which usually cost $30 a month for FREE, or maybe backup apps like Titanium backup which saves a backup of all your apps + their data to your sdcard incase something goes wrong / up update to a new rom.
People just like to customize their phones to THEIR fancy, not to what a manufacturer tells you is "awesome".
Hope this helps!

Greetings. Moving on from my Incredible...

Just ordered my DX on Ebay to replace my slowly deteriorating, yet faithful, Droid Incredible.
I am trying my best to read through the threads here, but there is a lot to take in (though development does seem to lag considerably behind the Inc). My plan is to stay stock for a few days to see what it is like, and then I will root and have fun. I have used at least 30 ROMS across five different devices, so flashing and rooting is not new to me.
If anyone is willing to distill some information for me, it would be much appreciated. Here are my questions...
1) Are there any reasons not to root the DX? What I mean is, are there any known pitfalls such as hardware failure that are known to be linked to rooting with the DX. I know of the implied dangers with regard to bricking.
2) Are there any others who have come from the Incredible? I have run every ROM available for that phone, and I think MIUI and SkyRaider were my favorites. I liked the Sense 3.0 stuff, but it was fairly unstable (not to mention the DX doesn't have Sense anyway). Any recommendations here for ROMs that are similar in flavor?
3)WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT BLUR?? I put this in caps because there seems to be a lot of hate on this motoblur skin for android, and many people adamantly demand ROMs to be de-blurred. What's so bad about it? How does it compare to Sense? I guess from what I've seen on video comparisons it doesn't seem all that bad.
Anything else I should know about this device before I get started on it? Anything I should definitely do or NOT do as far as modding is concerned?
Thanks!

Epicardium said:
Just ordered my DX on Ebay to replace my slowly deteriorating, yet faithful, Droid Incredible.
I am trying my best to read through the threads here, but there is a lot to take in (though development does seem to lag considerably behind the Inc). My plan is to stay stock for a few days to see what it is like, and then I will root and have fun. I have used at least 30 ROMS across five different devices, so flashing and rooting is not new to me.
If anyone is willing to distill some information for me, it would be much appreciated. Here are my questions...
1) Are there any reasons not to root the DX? What I mean is, are there any known pitfalls such as hardware failure that are known to be linked to rooting with the DX. I know of the implied dangers with regard to bricking.
2) Are there any others who have come from the Incredible? I have run every ROM available for that phone, and I think MIUI and SkyRaider were my favorites. I liked the Sense 3.0 stuff, but it was fairly unstable (not to mention the DX doesn't have Sense anyway). Any recommendations here for ROMs that are similar in flavor?
3)WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT BLUR?? I put this in caps because there seems to be a lot of hate on this motoblur skin for android, and many people adamantly demand ROMs to be de-blurred. What's so bad about it? How does it compare to Sense? I guess from what I've seen on video comparisons it doesn't seem all that bad.
Anything else I should know about this device before I get started on it? Anything I should definitely do or NOT do as far as modding is concerned?
Thanks!
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Welcome to the Droid X community!
In your experiences here you will learn that the Incredible and the Droid X have many differences.
To answer your queries:
1. There are no hardware pitfalls when rooting a Droid X, and our device is virtually brick proof.
2. My personal favorite rom for the Droid X is MIUI, but there are many popular roms. DarkslideX is a stock based rom that is absolute in speed and battery life (giving over fifteen hours).
3. Sense is better than blur in nearly every aspect. Blur slows the phone down incredibly, you won't experience the full capability of your Droid X using blur.
Some things you should know:
1. What a sbf file is. It is what makes this device virtually unbrickable, it will return you to pure stock with only several clicks. Also, SBFing to Froyo is required when flashing roms such as MIUI and CyanogenMod.
2. Don't ever use Droid X Bootstrap. When flashing from Froyo to any Gingerbread rom you must use Droid 2 Bootstrapper or you will have to reSBF your phone.
I'll report back if I think of anything else, good luck! =D
(I'll try to post links to important things later, also)
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infazzdar said:
Welcome to the Droid X community!
In your experiences here you will learn that the Incredible and the Droid X have many differences.
To answer your queries:
1. There are no hardware pitfalls when rooting a Droid X, and our device is virtually brick proof.
2. My personal favorite rom for the Droid X is MIUI, but there are many popular roms. DarkslideX is a stock based rom that is absolute in speed and battery life (giving over fifteen hours).
3. Sense is better than blur in nearly every aspect. Blur slows the phone down incredibly, you won't experience the full capability of your Droid X using blur.
Some things you should know:
1. What a sbf file is. It is what makes this device virtually unbrickable, it will return you to pure stock with only several clicks. Also, SBFing to Froyo is required when flashing roms such as MIUI and CyanogenMod.
2. Don't ever use Droid X Bootstrap. When flashing from Froyo to any Gingerbread rom you must use Droid 2 Bootstrapper or you will have to reSBF your phone.
I'll report back if I think of anything else, good luck! =D
(I'll try to post links to important things later, also)
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Fantastic! This is the kind of information I am fishing for. Thanks a million. I am mashing the 'Thanks' button.....
Also, do you have any real problems with MIUI on the DX? Any annoyances (like haptic not working, etc)?

Epicardium said:
Fantastic! This is the kind of information I am fishing for. Thanks a million. I am mashing the 'Thanks' button.....
Also, do you have any real problems with MIUI on the DX? Any annoyances (like haptic not working, etc)?
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Personally, I don't have issues whatsoever. All I can say is to try it out =D
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Now have an X2 also. Which to keep??
Through an odd set of circumstances, I have now acquired an X2 in addition to an original X. Love the screen on the X2, and the CPu & GPU, but seems like the X might still be the better choice given that it is further along the development cycle. Seems the X2 may never get there because I can't tell that very many great devs are working on it. Could be wrong though. Any thoughts on which phone I should keep?? Have to sell one of them in the next couple of weeks to recoup some costs.

[Q] Latest Version of Android for Continuum

What is the latest version of Android that I can run on my Samsung Continuum assuming I am successful in rooting it?
Also I have seen _many_ tutorials about rooting the Continuum. The problem is most of them are 2 years old. Is there a place to go to find the most recent, simplest, safest, way to root it?
TIA

chuckh1958 said:
What is the latest version of Android that I can run on my Samsung Continuum assuming I am successful in rooting it?
Also I have seen _many_ tutorials about rooting the Continuum. The problem is most of them are 2 years old. Is there a place to go to find the most recent, simplest, safest, way to root it?
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Use super one click. It will do the trick. The best way to understand all the different mods and ROMs is to read the threads and then re-read until you feel like you understand the process. I did that and was ok. I also played around with some of the different flashing techniques because those are super valuable. One recommendation that was made to me was to root and get used to the flashing and mods in EC09. I recommend taking that advice, EC09 is more forgiving, EG04 is touchier and will softbrick or bootloop more often if mods are not flashed properly. Read-Learn-Try-Repeat. When you feel ready GB (EG04) is the lastest. Go to the New Rom Ginger thread and do the config found in the thread and then follow the instructions in the OP. I used Hjsplit to combine the files and Odin to flash. If you need help typically someone is around every day or two. Oh yeah and BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP. If you don't back up a lot of times you will have to reflash a usable ROM through Odin and then rebuild.

Do you think it's worth rooting if the latest OS I can get is GB? I mean that's something like 2 years old and IIRC had a lot of problems. From what my colleagues have told me, the first completely reliable version is JB. They all have newer devices, upgraded, and said all of their problems went away with JB.
If I do root and upgrade to GB, will I lose anything? For example purchased apps? Will the play store still think I have an unrooted SCH-I400 with Froyo and still tell me that an app is incompatible even though it really is?

It's up to you and whether you think it's worth the root and the trouble. Flashing comes with risks and you have to assume that risk for yourself and your phone.
Everyone here has been helpful when issues arise but it's up to the individual what they ultimately decide to do or not do to their phone.
As to what happens to apps, I'm not sure I only run free apps and did not mind re-downloading a few of them. I did not have to reactivate my phone nor did I remember losing anything I thought critical, of course that is where backing up the phone comes into play. I use Titanium backup, sms backup, the standard google contacts sync and cwm, each for different reasons.
As to whether it will recognize GB I don't know I have not noticed anything one way or the other. Really I didn't notice much other than being able to use the GB mods on this forum. But I am still learning basic theming and mod development.

Thanks for your replies. In my opinion its not worth the risk if the best I can do is get to a 2 year old operating system thats already obsolete. I think I need to find a device that's not so limited. Given the problems I've had with it and lack of updates, it won't be another Samsung. I'm thinking perhaps a Motorola Droid. My past smartphone experiences with Motorola products has been very positive. Its been just the opposite with multiple Samsung devices.

NP, this phone is definitely hard to work with sometimes. Great for someone like me who wants to learn development, full of challenges. Good luck to ya.

Any thoughts on the Droid Razr? It's free from Verizon, has LTE, and now comes with Jelly Bean.

chuckh1958 said:
Thanks for your replies. In my opinion its not worth the risk if the best I can do is get to a 2 year old operating system thats already obsolete. I think I need to find a device that's not so limited. Given the problems I've had with it and lack of updates, it won't be another Samsung. I'm thinking perhaps a Motorola Droid. My past smartphone experiences with Motorola products has been very positive. Its been just the opposite with multiple Samsung devices.
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http://www.webpronews.com/latest-an...erbread-still-on-top-but-not-for-long-2012-10
thats of oct '12
ram maybe the real hurdle so ics/jb maynot be in the continuums future at all, like u said u may need a better device for what u do, i have been patching sources from froyo sources (i400 drivers) to gb i500 sources at a shot at aosp, cm7.2 maybe still ahead.

Imo, don't go with anything motorola if you want to be rooting and ROMing. They always tend to have locked bootloaders. Don't let the continuum sour your impression of samsung. This is a rather old phone. Just make sure to get a device that is well supported here at XDA and make sure it's a rather high end handset and you should be all good.

Its not just the continuum. I had a Windows smartphone a few years ago from Samsung and it was junk. It wouldn't even remember my BT pairings for more than 2 weeks before I'd have to start pairing things again.
If I get a phone where they regularly upgrade it to a recent OS I wouldn't even be considering rooting, so a locked bootloader isn't a big concern.
I also don't want to spend a lot of money on the phone so a high-end handset (i.e GS3) is out of the question. I cant help it but I'm a cheapskate. The original razr is being offered free by Verizon.

chuckh1958 said:
Its not just the continuum. I had a Windows smartphone a few years ago from Samsung and it was junk. It wouldn't even remember my BT pairings for more than 2 weeks before I'd have to start pairing things again.
If I get a phone where they regularly upgrade it to a recent OS I wouldn't even be considering rooting, so a locked bootloader isn't a big concern.
I also don't want to spend a lot of money on the phone so a high-end handset (i.e GS3) is out of the question. I cant help it but I'm a cheapskate. The original razr is being offered free by Verizon.
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The Omnia was great minus the touch screen. I'm not sure if that is what you had but it was what I came from. Compared to other smart phones for the money the Omnia wasn't too bad. Same with the Continuum, I got it for free 2 years ago. Was worth it then and this forum really helps keep it interesting.

My two cents:
GB is worth it, is really not much work and does offer some good improvements. There are a few bugs, but nothing that is a deal breaker. And the great thing is, if you do root and go to GB and don't like it is just as easy to go back to stock. It is a two year old phone, and if you think you may upgrade anyway you might as well try it... You may like it and save some money/hassle of upgrading.
And you will still have all the apps that you downloaded/purchased from the market, and the apps that require GB will be a available.
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My two cents:
GB is worth it, is really not much work and does offer some good improvements. There are a few bugs, but nothing that is a deal breaker. And the great thing is, if you do root and go to GB and don't like it is just as easy to go back to stock. It is a two year old phone, and if you think you may upgrade anyway you might as well try it... You may like it and save some money/hassle of upgrading.
And you will still have all the apps that you downloaded/purchased from the market, and the apps that require GB will be a available.
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this is how I felt. I am due for an upgrade, so I upgraded to GB. It makes the phone so much faster. I just rooted it and am in the process of deleting verizon bloatware to free up more ram.