Tmo sent me a refurb - should I send back? - Vibrant General

I have a early version of the Vibrant that I have rooted and installed Roms over.. T-Mo sent me a refurb because I was complaining about the poor GPS locks.. we wanted to see if another Vibrant would do better... unfortunately it doesnt...
Today I started adding a ROM to the new phone and it went haywire on me... wouldnt go into Recovery, hard time going into Download mode... literally 2 hours later after a scary Orange explanation mark on the screen did it finally cooperate and I ODIN'd the stock rom back on... turns out the stock rom wouldnt get passed the Galaxy S screen... so then I was about to get into recovery and reinstalled Obsidian since the zip was still on the card... now I can go in and erase everything off the internal memory... should I just return it and keep my early version... my original phone never acted up like this

if you wanna sell it... PM me

JD76 said:
I have a early version of the Vibrant that I have rooted and installed Roms over.. T-Mo sent me a refurb because I was complaining about the poor GPS locks.. we wanted to see if another Vibrant would do better... unfortunately it doesnt...
Today I started adding a ROM to the new phone and it went haywire on me... wouldnt go into Recovery, hard time going into Download mode... literally 2 hours later after a scary Orange explanation mark on the screen did it finally cooperate and I ODIN'd the stock rom back on... turns out the stock rom wouldnt get passed the Galaxy S screen... so then I was about to get into recovery and reinstalled Obsidian since the zip was still on the card... now I can go in and erase everything off the internal memory... should I just return it and keep my early version... my original phone never acted up like this
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Tell them to send you a new one. I'd be fine with a refurb phone if everything worked. but if it doesn't then what's the point of the exchange?

JD76 said:
I have a early version of the Vibrant that I have rooted and installed Roms over.. T-Mo sent me a refurb because I was complaining about the poor GPS locks.. we wanted to see if another Vibrant would do better... unfortunately it doesnt...
Today I started adding a ROM to the new phone and it went haywire on me... wouldnt go into Recovery, hard time going into Download mode... literally 2 hours later after a scary Orange explanation mark on the screen did it finally cooperate and I ODIN'd the stock rom back on... turns out the stock rom wouldnt get passed the Galaxy S screen... so then I was about to get into recovery and reinstalled Obsidian since the zip was still on the card... now I can go in and erase everything off the internal memory... should I just return it and keep my early version... my original phone never acted up like this
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Change it, it could be defective

Since the replacement didn't show improvement on gps, If you still have your original phone, keep it and send the refurb back...
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They sent me refurb unit too. I sent it back. xP

Thanks everyone.. Im back to my old one... I went back to stock J16 with a lag fix and a MobileAP mod on it...

If you didn't flash JFD you're doing it wrong. All you will get is a refurbished phone. They're not giving out new ones.

I have 7 days to return it so im testing out every froyo ROM out before I give it back squeeky clean...lol

Blame people who get replacements for issues that exist in every phone at the software level for the refurbs.
I got two brand new exchanges in a row, though.

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Vibrant no longer for sale at Tmobile?

The Vibrant looks to have been completely removed from TMobile's website. What the hell?
IT is gone, but the stores are still selling it. It just got replace by the 4g that is coming out, nothing new. It is still a good phone and wont trade it in for less. I dont live in a 4g area so whats the point of having a 4g phone.
I'm just worried that I won't be able to get the Vibrant for a warranty replacement or insurance claim. I don't want the 4g.
mrsbelpit said:
I'm just worried that I won't be able to get the Vibrant for a warranty replacement or insurance claim. I don't want the 4g.
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you'll either get a refurb (business as usual), which i'm sure they have plenty of or an option for a new phone (like maybe the sgs4g). i wouldn't worry about it, either way.
I read somewhere that a guy was given a 4G in exchange for his broken Vibrant. It's not like they will tell you that you're SOL. If you're under warranty they'll give you a refurb or something comparable.
i just messed up my phone big time... this sucks so bad... i flashed this rom and it wiped my whole internal sd and my external and i cant use my usb to flash back to stock because none my computers can reconigize my phone... AND it wont let me download any apps cuz it says the internal one is too full... WTF!!! I Knew in my heart i should of never flashed tha rom =(
What rom was it?
rayz8701 said:
i just messed up my phone big time... this sucks so bad... i flashed this rom and it wiped my whole internal sd and my external and i cant use my usb to flash back to stock because none my computers can reconigize my phone... AND it wont let me download any apps cuz it says the internal one is too full... WTF!!! I Knew in my heart i should of never flashed tha rom =(
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Rockin that Bionix V 1.2.1 w/ Androdena V5.1
Wrong thread to report ur flashing problems. There is a lot of how to get it back. I had the same issue when i updated my rom to the tmobile rom and not knowing how to get back to root. ODIN is your friend. Search it.
that could be good or bad. I need to go to the stop and ***** about the GPS on both my Vibrants since after dealing with the executive response team and getting them replaced once before they said next time I'll have to go to a store to prove I have a GPS problem. So one of these days I better flash back to stock and go show them before they don't have any refurbs or new ones to give me. I don't want to 4G either. I get just as fast downloads here as the people I know with the Mytouch 4G and the G2.
That's good news to me, my Vibrant's GPS is terrible.
I heard some good comment of the 4G's GPS.
They get rid of the vibrant but keep Samsung Behold II how smart is that
rayz8701 said:
i just messed up my phone big time... this sucks so bad... i flashed this rom and it wiped my whole internal sd and my external and i cant use my usb to flash back to stock because none my computers can reconigize my phone... AND it wont let me download any apps cuz it says the internal one is too full... WTF!!! I Knew in my heart i should of never flashed tha rom =(
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This is the second thread I've seen this exact same post in and I'll say the same thing I said last time. Read the noob guide and learn to use ODIN.
no more vibrants for sale ? ? ? awwwwhhhh few less nobs asking questions

[Q] Getting a replacement..

Hello,
My HTC EVO 4g keeps randomly restarting and when the phone is under heavy usage is reboots. I'm going to go into a Spring store today and try and get a new phone as I have the TEP plan.
I currently have CM7 installed on my device. When I bring it in to the Sprint store, should I have the stock ROM installed on there? Or does it not matter?
Thanks for your time and answers!
Regards, th3gh05t
th3gh05t said:
Hello,
My HTC EVO 4g keeps randomly restarting and when the phone is under heavy usage is reboots. I'm going to go into a Spring store today and try and get a new phone as I have the TEP plan.
I currently have CM7 installed on my device. When I bring it in to the Sprint store, should I have the stock ROM installed on there? Or does it not matter?
Thanks for your time and answers!
Regards, th3gh05t
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Well that would suck... you're going to end up getting a phone that cannot be rooted (for now) and won't be installing CM7. What you really should do is instal the rooted OTA and see if you can hack that for a couple of days first... If not, debate how long you can put up with the reboots.
Thanks for the reply, but at this point, I really just need a phone that works.
Playing games, surfing the web, or using Maps will restart the phone.
I just need to know if they won't take the phone cause it's been "rooted".
Just in root leave s off for someone in the future
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Is anyone at the Sprint store going to freak out and not take the phone back if I don't have stock ROM?
It's ALWAYS recommended to unroot and return to stock before going into a sprint store. Yes, SOME people have gotten lucky and not got caught. But if you do get caught being rooted, they will flag your phone and you will NEVER get it fixed. It literally takes 5 minutes to unroot, just do it just to be safe.
On a side note, are you sure your problems aren't related to the CM7 rom you have? ANY custom rom will have problems. You should try flashing back to stock rom, or at least a Sense rom and see if you still have the same problem.
Okay, thanks for the advice!
Yes, I have tried other ROMs, and I still experience the issue. I've tried Fresh and will be flashing stock ROM to see if that helps.
I've gotten 3 replacements, I leave them s-off and they never check that. I do however flash a stock rom first just so they don't give me any sh*t. And I got lucky last week, my replacement phone came with 2.3 on it but it was s-off. You may get lucky too
We're comin from a pure power source.
Since you're going to be stuck on the stock ROM anyway if you replace it, you might want to first try installing the stock rooted ROM from here and run it for a few days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133379
It's quite possible that something in your setup on CM7 is causing the phone to overheat. Or it could be any number of things that might have nothing to do with hardware. Before you give up a rootable phone for one that can't be, you might as well try the stock ROM first. If that clears things up, you can experiment to find the culprit.
bkrodgers said:
Since you're going to be stuck on the stock ROM anyway if you replace it, you might want to first try installing the stock rooted ROM from here and run it for a few days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133379
It's quite possible that something in your setup on CM7 is causing the phone to overheat. Or it could be any number of things that might have nothing to do with hardware. Before you give up a rootable phone for one that can't be, you might as well try the stock ROM first. If that clears things up, you can experiment to find the culprit.
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EXACTLY! If you're having software issues and you're running a custom ROM, before even considering exchanging the phone you should revert to stock to see if the problem truly lies within the hardware itself or the ROM you are using. As far as unrooting, I would not unroot before taking it to Sprint should you have to resort to that. Just flash a stock rooted ROM and you should be fine.
th3gh05t said:
Hello,
My HTC EVO 4g keeps randomly restarting and when the phone is under heavy usage is reboots. I'm going to go into a Spring store today and try and get a new phone as I have the TEP plan.
I currently have CM7 installed on my device. When I bring it in to the Sprint store, should I have the stock ROM installed on there? Or does it not matter?
Thanks for your time and answers!
Regards, th3gh05t
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i am having the same problem when i went into the sprint store they looked at me like i was lien then took it to the back did a hard reset and told me it was fixed after i told them i did a hard reset over the phone with the teck and when i got home started up my google beta and started playing cut the rope it restarted on me so i called like 3 days later and thet gave me a hard time trying to get a new phone told me that they dint do replacement that i had to call HTC wow my wife had i epic and got 4 replacements no problem so i snaped and thery are now sending me a new phone they said that it will take a week or two cuz they are on back order and yes i unrooted the phone b4 i went in but i had to let you know the BS you might havr to go through
dino1342 said:
i am having the same problem when i went into the sprint store they looked at me like i was lien then took it to the back did a hard reset and told me it was fixed after i told them i did a hard reset over the phone with the teck and when i got home started up my google beta and started playing cut the rope it restarted on me so i called like 3 days later and thet gave me a hard time trying to get a new phone told me that they dint do replacement that i had to call HTC wow my wife had i epic and got 4 replacements no problem so i snaped and thery are now sending me a new phone they said that it will take a week or two cuz they are on back order and yes i unrooted the phone b4 i went in but i had to let you know the BS you might havr to go through
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Is your period key broken?
mlin said:
EXACTLY! If you're having software issues and you're running a custom ROM, before even considering exchanging the phone you should revert to stock to see if the problem truly lies within the hardware itself or the ROM you are using. As far as unrooting, I would not unroot before taking it to Sprint should you have to resort to that. Just flash a stock rooted ROM and you should be fine.
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Thanks for the advice! I will let you know how the stock ROM is working!
th3gh05t said:
Hello,
My HTC EVO 4g keeps randomly restarting and when the phone is under heavy usage is reboots. I'm going to go into a Spring store today and try and get a new phone as I have the TEP plan.
I currently have CM7 installed on my device. When I bring it in to the Sprint store, should I have the stock ROM installed on there? Or does it not matter?
Thanks for your time and answers!
Regards, th3gh05t
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Are you running a CM7 nightly? After build 132 everyone has been having reboot problems.......
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No, I am (was) running the latest RC.
Just unroot and take it back. Shouldn't be a problem.
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Got the Update notice, now stuck on "Samsung"

I Can't believe this. I run a stock rom.
I got the update notice on my phone about 5 hours ago. I said, sure why not, I haven't modded my phone, shouldn't be any issues. WRong. Now its stuck on the black "Sumsung" boot screen. won't move!
suggestions...
Odin
10char
Have you tryed pulling the battery out and restarting
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I second! That! Odin back?
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You should pull battery and try again.
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i've pulled the battery, try to restart. stays stuck on "Samsung" screen.
I can't get into recover (volume down + camera + power) either.
collegedude10 said:
i've pulled the battery, try to restart. stays stuck on "Samsung" screen.
I can't get into recover (volume down + camera + power) either.
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Then you will have to Odin back to stock.
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I had the same problem. Running stock and received the update notice and upon installing was stuck on the samsung screen. ODINed back to stock and tried the manual update with the same result, stuck on samsung screen.
Took the phone to sprint and got a replacement, said they couldn't get it to work on my phone either. Not only did they give me a new phone but I also got the box of goodies that comes with it too.
ToiletDuck555 said:
I had the same problem. Running stock and received the update notice and upon installing was stuck on the samsung screen. ODINed back to stock and tried the manual update with the same result, stuck on samsung screen.
Took the phone to sprint and got a replacement, said they couldn't get it to work on my phone either. Not only did they give me a new phone but I also got the box of goodies that comes with it too.
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You might be on to something there.....
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Sounds like the stock update failed to install your Kernel. Nice going sprint ^-^
You have two options; One. Follow this guide here. Or, go to sprint and tell them what happened and they should do odin flash it for you =)
Similar thing happened to my wife's Epic 4G yesterday morning. Instead of the stuck logo there was a bunch of error messages and finally I realized that there was some kind of backup program running. It was frozen and since I'm not up on Samsung I took it to the nearby Sprint service center. They futzed around with it for about an hour and said they had tried everything and there was nothing they could do since it was rooted - it was bricked and I should buy a new phone.
Not so fast Kimosabe!
I looked closer and figured out that the stuff I was looking at was a menu that could be scrolled with the volume keys and selected with the power button. That got it to reboot to the Samsung logo and no amount of battery removal or other manipulation would change that. So, off I went to another Sprint Repair facility a little further away. Success! After about 90 minutes they had it working with 2.3.5 loaded and my wife is very happy, the way wives should be.
I haven't checked but I doubt it's rooted anymore which is fine as she doesn't need any of the extended functions rooting offers anyway.
brobin111 said:
Similar thing happened to my wife's Epic 4G yesterday morning. Instead of the stuck logo there was a bunch of error messages and finally I realized that there was some kind of backup program running. It was frozen and since I'm not up on Samsung I took it to the nearby Sprint service center. They futzed around with it for about an hour and said they had tried everything and there was nothing they could do since it was rooted - it was bricked and I should buy a new phone.
Not so fast Kimosabe!
I looked closer and figured out that the stuff I was looking at was a menu that could be scrolled with the volume keys and selected with the power button. That got it to reboot to the Samsung logo and no amount of battery removal or other manipulation would change that. So, off I went to another Sprint Repair facility a little further away. Success! After about 90 minutes they had it working with 2.3.5 loaded and my wife is very happy, the way wives should be.
I haven't checked but I doubt it's rooted anymore which is fine as she doesn't need any of the extended functions rooting offers anyway.
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If you can't flash your phone back to stock from a soft brick, you shouldn't be downloading things from here.
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Same thing happened to my wifes Epic. It was stocked but rooted. Same as described in the first post. She got the text or message that her upgrade was ready, but after following the steps, her phone said it was up to date. After powering it off and then back on, it wouldn't get past the Samsung screen.
I tried everything. It wouldn't boot to recovery, only download mode. I had to odin it back to EC05. Then I upgraded it manually to Gingerbread with the official update.zip. Working great.
I never got the text on my phone that my upgrade was ready. I just manually updated to Gingerbread.
BTW. Battery on both phones has never been better.
Hope you got your phone working too.
Smoke.007
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Then you will have to Odin back to stock.
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Agree with Kenny! You should odin back to stock.
I to can verify . I had just gotten a new replace 3days before the update. When the update came out I ran it and bam stuck at the sammy screen . I tried to odin and that wouldn't even work . So took it to sprint service center and they said it was a no go for them . Would have to be replaced would even go to download . Called sprint and *****ed up a storm . They over nighted me another phone . 2 phone in 1 week. Pretty sure they hate me now but screw it . This was in no way user error . I've been seeing a few other case of similar issue.
On a side note . I've found that the best way to odin if it won't go into dl is by removing battery and sd plug in to usb with odin up and then press 1 and power button at the same time . But I think it only works on soft bricks in this case it might work not sure but worth a try.
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I looked around if I'm correct some epics have a hardware reset just under the camera according to mystery emotions he has a post to restore it even on a solid brick. However it's. Been known to not be on every epic. I happen to have one woot!
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screen goes off and won't come back on Please help

boot phone, screen is on, hit power button or just let screen go off and then it won't come back on with the power button, phone is working, everything is working but screen won't come back on, on froyo it works fine, on gingerbread, won't work, this is wifes phone completely stock.
I odined to stock froyo, works fine, did the update on the phone, then it doesn't work, tried the rooted ei22 on here, odined it and screen won't come back on. has anyone else had this problem?
i put her back to froyo for the time being, but really need to fix this for her.
Did u try changing the cpu settings to were it won't go into 100
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its the wifes phone, its completely stock, no root, nothing. was working fine for the past month or so with the gingerbread update from samsung/sprint, now won't work with ei22. i'd like to just take it back to sprint and say fix it. but i don't know if its hardware or software, can't understand how it would be hardware if its working with froyo, but doesn't make sense that it could be software since it works on everyone elses phone.
Its more than likely a bad update id say take to sprint after you odin back to stock and install the update in front of them and show them the screen won't come on they will more than likely help you and if they can't fix it they'll give you a new phone free since its their fault.
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Even with phone out of warranty? And do I tell them I odined back after it happened the first time?
I wouldn't tell them that you've odined back.. When I went in to get my phone fixed I just acted dumb. Tell them you just updated it, and the screen won't turn back on..
Not sure about the out of warranty bit though. I have insurance on mine
But all phones were updated a month ago or so, so i'm not sure playing dumb would work
Just take it in on gb and tell them you decided to update that day and that's what happend
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i know, but my point is, since the update went out like a month ago, doesnt it force you at some point to update? wouldn't she have had to update already? We got the phones right when they came out and mine has been rooted since day 2, so I really don't know. just don't want to go look like a moron.
robl45 said:
i know, but my point is, since the update went out like a month ago, doesnt it force you at some point to update? wouldn't she have had to update already? We got the phones right when they came out and mine has been rooted since day 2, so I really don't know. just don't want to go look like a moron.
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No they'll believe you if you just recently "decided" to update. Its an error on their part and are forced to fix it or replace it.
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took it back today, they wanted to charge me 37.10 to warranty the phone. I asked if we could get sprint to waive it as it was their software update that botched the phone. The guy said he would do it since he is in a good mood. but really I left feeling that sprint might as well close up shop, everything is all about the insurance, insurance insurance. why would I need insurance to cover them bricking my wifes phone??
funny thing is, it was working on gingerbread just fine for a month or so until it didn't. now I just odined the phone back to stock froyo and its working fine again until she gets the new phone.

Have I just hard bricked my note? Read first post please

My note is dead, no joke...its not turning on at all now. I flashed my rom as its the first rom I ever created...it didn't work as it came up with an error, then I flashed Criskelo 5.0 rom and it flashed...no problems. So then, I thought i'd try flashing my rom again and it failed then...then I tried flashing Criskelo 5.0 rom again and it came up with an error and it said (bad) in brackets, then I tried flashing another rom called ParanoidAndroid and it was on the 3rd line for 5 minutes and then screen just went black after that and my phone never woke up again.
When I put the battery into my note, there is no life at all, I get a constant back screen, however...the phone gets warm with battery inserted. I've took out battery and put it back in with same problem. I've tried PC odin but the cable connection does not show a yellow or green light on the PC odin software.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
SealsNavie said:
My note is dead, no joke...its not turning on at all now. I flashed my rom as its the first rom I ever created...it didn't work, then I flashed ParanoidAndroid rom and it flashed, I thought i'd try flashing my rom again and it failed then...I tried flashing ParanoidAndroid rom again and it came up with an error and it said (bad) in brackets, have I just bricked my note?
When I put the battery into my note, there is no life at all, I get a constant back screen, however...the phone gets warm with battery inserted. I've took out battery and put it back in with same problem.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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Tons of HardBrick Warnings and Help threads getting Posted on a Daily basis Mate, and You still managed to Brick your Note by Installing ICS. However heard it for the first time on a XXLQ2 Rom.
Anyhow, Confirm It's a Brick first, My Experience is not enough to help you with that, Wait for a dev or a mod and Then Follow the Guide here
Go t dawnload mod and flash whit Odin GB stock room
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I can't flash anything because PC Odin will not detect my phone
SealsNavie said:
I can't flash anything because PC Odin will not detect my phone
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Where you on ics before?
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Yeah...i'll modifiy my original post to go over everything so people are aware of what exactly went wrong and to determine if I do have a super brick.
Can I use the information in this post for my situation?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667886&page=11
However, my phone is fully bricked.
Yep. You flahed a rom on a bad kernel.
So its bricked. This is why you should always read as much info as you can. It says quite clearly in every rom posted to not do what you did.
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Yep, sorry but the phone is bricked. Had the same problem with my S2 a couple of weeks ago. Have had plenty of experience flashing firmwares but this time half way through the phones screen went black, & phone would not restart. Tried everything, usb jig etc., but no luck. Phone would get hot with battery inserted.
Sent the phone to the link below, simply telling them that the firmware installation had stopped half way through. They could not repair it themselves & had to return it to Samsung, this took about seven days. Now have the phone back working perfectly, all I had to pay was the return postage.
http://www.freesamsungrepairs.com/
bidboy said:
Yep, sorry but the phone is bricked. Had the same problem with my S2 a couple of weeks ago. Have had plenty of experience flashing firmwares but this time half way through the phones screen went black, & phone would not restart. Tried everything, usb jig etc., but no luck. Phone would get hot with battery inserted.
Sent the phone to the link below, simply telling them that the firmware installation had stopped half way through. They could not repair it themselves & had to return it to Samsung, this took about seven days. Now have the phone back working perfectly, all I had to pay was the return postage.
http://www.freesamsungrepairs.com/
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If I bought my phone from Carphone Warehouse does that mean I have Samsung warranty, sorry for stupid question. Your from the Uk right?...where are the services centres or did you send abroad?
SealsNavie said:
If I bought my phone from Carphone Warehouse does that mean I have Samsung warranty, sorry for stupid question. Your from the Uk right?...where are the services centres or did you send abroad?
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Yes, it will be covered by Samsung warranty, just send it to the company in the link, they will send it on to Samsung.
Carphone warehouse should honour your warranty... If their at all problematic, try with your operator. Either Carphone warehouse will take it at a store, or your provider will do a next day collection, and usually replace there and then.
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SpyderTracks said:
Carphone warehouse should honour your warranty... If their at all problematic, try with your operator. Either Carphone warehouse will take it at a store, or your provider will do a next day collection, and usually replace there and then.
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I'll take it to Carphone Warehouse, they probably will take longer...that's what I feel
No worries you'll get new Note soon and then version 0.2 will be released :]
Parano1k said:
No worries you'll get new Note soon and then version 0.2 will be released :]
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Well...I just presumed that I could follow a rom development thread and everything would be okay, its not the same as app development...I know that now, however...I will still continue developing
The funny thing is that I never realised that it could brick my device as I was happy it wasn't the LPY stock rom.
If anyone knows a thread that I can refer to about script then please link me to it as it would help alot, thanks.

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