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so who runs sense and who deosn't?

personally i like the look of sense but it seems to kill the battery and slow the phone down, also chews up ram. i actually don't mind running vanilla with a droid or nexus themed launcher. im hoping when we do get the official 2.1 some of the devs here will not include sense in their roms.
so do you run sense or not?

I like vanilla android.. (darkstar theme) but currently using helix launcher..with weather widgets donate.. better cut for icons.. I do like sense.. but agree i think it does chew up ram and slow the phone down alot worse then my combo above.

I run Sense..................

havent ran sense since darchstar v1

I like Sense.

Sence is the reason i bought the Hero and not the Moment.

I like Sense, despite any performance drains. It's the main reason that I got a Hero.
But my last phone was a Touch Diamond, and the Hero is pretty much a Diamond with android; at least in a general form-factor/interface sense.

Sense was one reason I got this phone over the moment, and I only heard bad review about the moment.
I general don't use sense. I like the music app for it and the lockscreen, but thats about it.
Waiting for v2 of darchdroid to be a daily then i ditch legend again

jesuspgt said:
I like Sense, despite any performance drains. It's the main reason that I got a Hero.
But my last phone was a Touch Diamond, and the Hero is pretty much a Diamond with android; at least in a general form-factor/interface sense.
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you fail, the hero is not even close to the diamond. the diamond had a great form factor but it was slow, battery hog and winmo sucks!
i also don't run sense, slows the hero down way too much.

troyboytn said:
Sence is the reason i bought the Hero and not the Moment.
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Exactly, I bought the Hero for Sense UI.

I bought ther Hero because of Sense UI. I wonder why people got the Hero if the moment is basically the same without sense. Could be because the styling is better, IMO. I just like the look of sense.
To each, his own.
However with all the apps out there you can almost get vanilla to look like sense. But, the setup I have on my phone it's pretty damn quick. Every once in a while there is a quirk here or there, but overall I fell it is better.

Noiro said:
Exactly, I bought the Hero for Sense UI.
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kinda pointless as every current winmo rom has sense anyways, it's not just android specific now. i bought the hero because it's android, i hated winmo and of course the android market is pure win! the hero without sense is super fast.

Sense is nice with all the widgets, but it bogs the hell out of a phone that already is stingy on RAM to begin with... honestly i don't use all that social network ingtegrated Sense stuff which is HTC's claim to fame for Sense cuz it's easier for me just to get on the mobile version of the website nd view everything from there. Nd like someone else said, vanilla can be practically customized to like almost like Sense so the looks definitely don't woo me. Also remember Sense is the reason why we don't have 2.1 yet... i wish they would release the vanilla version for those who chose to run it instead.

I've had the moment and the the hero now, i prefer the hero, but use helix. seems a bit faster and i like the fact the home screen rotates. Hell with swype ya dont even need a keyboard anymore.
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fixxxer2008 said:
kinda pointless as every current winmo rom has sense anyways, it's not just android specific now. i bought the hero because it's android, i hated winmo and of course the android market is pure win! the hero without sense is super fast.
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HTC Sense was on Android before Windows Mobile, I bought the Hero on the day it was released.
Besides, HTC Sense on Windows Mobile 6.5+ is not like HTC Sense on Android.

Noiro said:
Besides, HTC Sense on Windows Mobile 6.5+ is not like HTC Sense on Android.
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Exactly. Windows Mobile Sense UI is a glorified build of touchflo 3d lol

fixxxer2008 said:
you fail, the hero is not even close to the diamond. the diamond had a great form factor but it was slow, battery hog and winmo sucks!
i also don't run sense, slows the hero down way too much.
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I think you somehow managed to completely miss my point. Please attempt to improve your reading comprehension skills, thank you.

I have never had that bad of a problem with lag besides the stock rom. Once you put on almost any custom rom most if not all of the issues are gone. I got the phone for sense and never turn it off.

I use Sense
Partially because I really like the look over stock boring Android, I mean really, it looks like early linux gui's or old versions of windows, boxy and plain. I also am a salesman by profession right now, I have to sell the silly thing, and coming up this summer, I will hopefully be selling the Evo too, which I'm quite excited about.
I normally would be one to trim everything for speed. I don't run ANY of the 'windows xp look' stuff on my XP based laptop because its too slow, I shut off most of the eye-candy in Linux because its too slow, but on a phone.. I kinda like it to look nice, the HTC widgets are downright schmexy.
I use sense, because its much sleeker to demo for a customer, and because it is smooth enough (on custom ROM's at least...) and visually appealing enough to use on a daily basis.

I dont use sense because it doesnt seem to like JIT at all. Nothing htc likes it.

Gingerbread SDK details

Here it is!
http://d.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html

Someone please port this to the Nexus One.
Thanks!

chetanthaker said:
Here it is!
http://d.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
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Went to through the details there. Although there are some interesting upgrades on the developer's side, the end user side looks YAWNnnn.
If you take into consideration that it was advertised as an sizeable upgrade of the UI. Which is not.

agovinoveritas said:
Went to through the details there. Although there are some interesting upgrades on the developer's side, the end user side looks YAWNnnn.
If you take into consideration that it was advertised as an sizeable upgrade of the UI. Which is not.
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It wasn't advertised as such. That was way back when gingerbread was still 3.0.
Obviously that changed and so did most of the UI changes.

i particularly enjoy
One-touch word selection and copy/paste
When entering text or viewing a web page, the user can quickly select a word by press-hold, then copy to the clipboard and paste. Pressing on a word enters a free-selection mode — the user can adjust the selection area as needed by dragging a set of bounding arrows to new positions, then copy the bounded area by pressing anywhere in the selection area. For text entry, the user can slide-press to enter a cursor mode, then reposition the cursor easily and accurately by dragging the cursor arrow. With both the selection and cursor modes, no use of a trackball is needed.
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iphone-esque

mojonation1487 said:
It wasn't advertised as such. That was way back when gingerbread was still 3.0.
Obviously that changed and so did most of the UI changes.
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Actually it was. They made a point of it.
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/google-works-on-gingerbread-ui.xhtml
Well, there are tons of different sites that state the same. They all come from statements made by Google, granted a while back. However once they changed it to 2.3 instead of 3.0 which was like a month ago through a tweet of all things, they never changed their stance on the UI issue. So yes, it was advertised as such, and they rode that horse, among other things, until pretty much up to the video that was released for their voice app less than week ago.

agovinoveritas said:
Actually it was. They made a point of it.
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/google-works-on-gingerbread-ui.xhtml
Well, there are tons of different sites that state the same. They all come from statements made by Google, granted a while back. However once they changed it to 2.3 instead of 3.0 which was like a month ago through a tweet of all things, they never changed their stance on the UI issue. So yes, it was advertised as such, and they rode that horse, among other things, until pretty much up to the video that was released for their voice app less than week ago.
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ahem notice the date. was still considered 3.0 then.

sn0warmy said:
Someone please port this to the Nexus One.
Thanks!
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wow read much?

agovinoveritas said:
Actually it was. They made a point of it.
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/google-works-on-gingerbread-ui.xhtml
Well, there are tons of different sites that state the same. They all come from statements made by Google, granted a while back. However once they changed it to 2.3 instead of 3.0 which was like a month ago through a tweet of all things, they never changed their stance on the UI issue. So yes, it was advertised as such, and they rode that horse, among other things, until pretty much up to the video that was released for their voice app less than week ago.
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All rumors.
From the first sentence in the second paragraph:
Citing multiple unnamed sources...
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Edit: Having looked at the first pictures in the link posted by OP, I can't imagine how you think those are ui improvements. It's not like they were gonna mimic sense ui or miui lol.
The user interface is refined in many ways across the system, making it easier to learn, faster to use, and more power-efficient. A simplified visual theme of colors against black brings vividness and contrast to the notification bar, menus, and other parts of the UI. Changes in menus and settings make it easier for the user to navigate and control the features of the system and device.
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This was Android 1.0:
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This was Android 2.2:
This was Android 2.3:
These are just homescreens but if you compare other areas, 1.0 to 2.2 wasn't such a big visual change but 2.2 to 2.3 is. We might just be looking at that "huge" UI change. And IMO it (or whatever it is or you want to call it) ain't that great.

Award Tour said:
These are just homescreens but if you compare other areas, 1.0 to 2.2 wasn't such a big visual change but 2.2 to 2.3 is. We might just be looking at that "huge" UI change. And IMO it (or whatever it is or you want to call it) ain't that great.
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You don't HAVE to use it

wdfowty said:
You don't HAVE to use it
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What am I supposed to use then? A amateur made theme? I think it's okay to expect a little (a lot?) more from the creator (who is loaded with talent) of the OS itself especially since Froyo looked way better. Anyway, this type of discussion doesn't really belong in this forum so I'll stop here.

nexus14 said:
i particularly enjoy
iphone-esque
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That it is, but you have to say the iPhone cut / paste really works.
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I like it. It's still pretty basic, but the white status bar I'm glad to see go. I usually have it set to black now in CM 6.1 anyway, but it's nice that it's the standard. From previous links it looks like the pop up windows are slightly tweaked as well. It's not a huge departure form the previous versions, but it's significant. Not sure about the green icons though.

agovinoveritas said:
Actually it was. They made a point of it.
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There were reports a month or so ago that the UI designer they got from Palm was still working on stuff, so the Gingerbread UI updates got pushed back.

If you want MASSIVE UI changes, MIUI is your friend
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does gingerbread allow you to stream your itunes music to your PC like they showed at Google IO or is this a later feature or do we still have to rely on 3rd party apps?

Dai323 said:
If you want MASSIVE UI changes, MIUI is your friend
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+1 for MIUI! UI overhaul.
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Dai323 said:
If you want MASSIVE UI changes, MIUI is your friend
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ditto
but i want to see features from gingerbread

To those saying that this isn't "the big UI overhaul" we've been hearing about, I don't know but it seems like Google thinks it is. As part of the Nexus S youtube introduction they highlight the "refreshed UI" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBMrauRSX0) on a dedicated video. I'm pretty sure that this is it. Disappointing really.
I don't even care about a whole new user experience (sure some maybe some new things which I guess 2.3 does kind of brings) but realistically I just wanted it to be a visual improvement from Froyo. What I see is just a bunch of sub par design choices that destroys the original identity of Android (white, matte, simplistic design with orange highlights). 2.3 brings a lot of visual inconsistency, loud/ugly/clashing neon color combinations, black void, and a whole lot of ugliness in terms of graphic design.
Man, I just can't get over how bad the design/graphics/visuals are in 2.3.

[Q] New Sense with Gingerbread?

Does anyone think HTC will give us the new sense with the gingerbread release?
I'm really hoping so. any word on the due date for us Proud EVO owners?

I heard somewhere that it'll be mid February
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It's certainly possible we'll get it. HTC and Sprint have been treating the Evo very well. It's still a flagship device for Sprint.

At the very least, any minor annoyances, lag, or general feeling of choppiness will be phased out (im looking at you, bottom of app drawer) due to gingerbread finally allowing the launcher, as well as pretty much every other native app to use the phones gpu for hardware acceleration. Im hoping this works out well for us, but since we know the EVO's gpu isn't exactly a monster... oh well, I have an upgrade anyway

baloniman612 said:
At the very least, any minor annoyances, lag, or general feeling of choppiness will be phased out (im looking at you, bottom of app drawer) due to gingerbread finally allowing the launcher, as well as pretty much every other native app to use the phones gpu for hardware acceleration. Im hoping this works out well for us, but since we know the EVO's gpu isn't exactly a monster... oh well, I have an upgrade anyway
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That's actually not true. 2.3 still doesn't have full HW acceleration.

baloniman612 said:
At the very least, any minor annoyances, lag, or general feeling of choppiness will be phased out (im looking at you, bottom of app drawer) due to gingerbread finally allowing the launcher, as well as pretty much every other native app to use the phones gpu for hardware acceleration. Im hoping this works out well for us, but since we know the EVO's gpu isn't exactly a monster... oh well, I have an upgrade anyway
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Yeah Gingerbread does not use HW acceleration. I know when Android does, it will make the experience even better then it already is.

That would be nice.
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I'm running sense 2.0 with a gingerbread theme on my Evo.
Not the actual gingerbread, but atleast I have the new sense
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apheonixboy said:
I'm running sense 2.0 with a gingerbread theme on my Evo.
Not the actual gingerbread, but atleast I have the new sense
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apheonixboy:
which rom are you using? i've tried Echo's rom, but it just lags too much for me.

stchandler82 said:
apheonixboy:
which rom are you using? i've tried Echo's rom, but it just lags too much for me.
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It is virus's HD port
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is there somewhere we can all spam htc about it? i doubt sprint has much of a say in sense 2.0 or no sense 2.0. it might be pretty good to get like a number or an email or even a board we can roll out our posting .sh's on. everybody join in the spam htc for gingerbread sense 2.0 fun!

dxearner said:
It is virus's HD port
No, its BOS HD
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Sent from my Evo 4G HD

dkdude36 said:
is there somewhere we can all spam htc about it?
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I really don't think it's appropriate to "spam" a manufacturer for something you want.

hahah ok yea just trying to help.... and relieve my boardom.
so IS there any way we can try to get it? i want actually considering spamming, but is there any alternative method?

I spoke with an HTC rep about three weeks ago, and their indication was that we would be getting both Gingerbread and the new Sense 2.0, likely in the same update, around the end of January/beginning of February. They said the update was ready to go before Christmas, they were just waiting on Sprint for the all-clear to push the OTA. Here's hoping!

Pierceye said:
I spoke with an HTC rep about three weeks ago, and their indication was that we would be getting both Gingerbread and the new Sense 2.0, likely in the same update, around the end of January/beginning of February. They said the update was ready to go before Christmas, they were just waiting on Sprint for the all-clear to push the OTA. Here's hoping!
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A Sprint rep told me that the sense 2.0 update would be coming soon without me even asking. Lol. Everything sounds promising.
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I would like gingerbread with sense 2.0, but I would even take just the new sense. Tried it on Echos rom and loved it.
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i'm very exited for this new update. does anybody know what we will be getting from gingerbread? or is the update solely 2.3 and sense 2.0?

Gingerbread
Last time I checked, 2.3 WAS Gingerbread. Maybe you are thinking of 3.0 which is Honeycomb for tablets?
dkdude36 said:
i'm very exited for this new update. does anybody know what we will be getting from gingerbread? or is the update solely 2.3 and sense 2.0?
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i meant what things would come with the update. like froyo came with a flashlight app etc. or will we just get gingerbread coding and sense 2.0 (which would still be very nice)

[25-FEB-2011][DISCUSS[Q]HTC Sense UI

Ok, let me start out by saying my knowledge is minimal as I'm currently an iPhone user. However, I plan on picking up an HD2 and modding the hell out of it. So, my question would be: Is there a way to use HTC Sense UI on HD2? Or is it only the new phones labeled with an S? Like HTC's new lineup coming out I believe there is three phones, which I could care less about at the moment. Meaning, I wouldn't jump to it to have the Sense UI work I'll stick with HD2 because of it's modding capabilities. Thanks.

The HD2 has sense as standard.
In either WM 6.5 or Android flavour if you want it........
6.5 is better though.... but shhhhhh you cant get away with saying things like that anymore

conantroutman said:
The HD2 has sense as standard.
In either WM 6.5 or Android flavour if you want it........
6.5 is better though.... but shhhhhh you cant get away with saying things like that anymore
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Thanks for the reply. I can't wait to get this phone! W00t W00t. I saw an article from a search I did referencing XDA forums to UNLOCK the HD2. I have AT&T currently that's why.

android
You can have HTC Sense "V1" which is what the Evo, Desire, Incredible come with. It's got the Sense clock and animated weather and big sleek HTC widgets.
there are also HTC Sense "V2" which is Desire HD/Z and Incredible S. This is the Sense where you can change the skin whenever you want and there are a bunch of awesome ones, support for more widgets, access to HTC hub, flip clock, and really nice eye candy.
WM6.5
also has "sense" which is the sense flip clock, animated weather, and a really nice UI experience, especially if you flash a custom ROM with cookie home tab where you can really modify things and basically add widgets.
iOS.
don't forget on iOS you can jailbreak it and have a nice Sense theme going, and even animated weather just like HTC sense, this is if you plan to keep your iPhone while you rock the HD2.

orangekid said:
android
You can have HTC Sense "V1" which is what the Evo, Desire, Incredible come with. It's got the Sense clock and animated weather and big sleek HTC widgets.
there are also HTC Sense "V2" which is Desire HD/Z and Incredible S. This is the Sense where you can change the skin whenever you want and there are a bunch of awesome ones, support for more widgets, access to HTC hub, flip clock, and really nice eye candy.
WM6.5
also has "sense" which is the sense flip clock, animated weather, and a really nice UI experience, especially if you flash a custom ROM with cookie home tab where you can really modify things and basically add widgets.
iOS.
don't forget on iOS you can jailbreak it and have a nice Sense theme going, and even animated weather just like HTC sense, this is if you plan to keep your iPhone while you rock the HD2.
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I'm going to keep both and switch simcards as I feel necessary. IF everything goes according to plan that is. The version 2 is able to be install / used on HD2? I want the ability to flip my phone upside down and it turn to vibrate mode. That's so neat. And of course other things that is may have to offer. So my thinking is, maybe you could put it on HD2, but that the new phones will have it to begin with. Or, it will only be available on new phones, which would suck.

Ambush083 said:
I'm going to keep both and switch simcards as I feel necessary. IF everything goes according to plan that is. The version 2 is able to be install / used on HD2? I want the ability to flip my phone upside down and it turn to vibrate mode. That's so neat. And of course other things that is may have to offer. So my thinking is, maybe you could put it on HD2, but that the new phones will have it to begin with. Or, it will only be available on new phones, which would suck.
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yeah the Desire HD and the Incredible S come with this stock, but we have custom ROMs for the HD2 which do the same thing and more;
here's an example of a ROM you can flash on your HD2, check out the screenshots and video
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528

Ambush083 said:
Ok, let me start out by saying my knowledge is minimal as I'm currently an iPhone user.
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Quote of the year!

TheATHEiST said:
Quote of the year!
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Knowledge as in Winmo and Android. Oh, and God doesn't believe in Athiests.

Ambush083 said:
I did referencing XDA forums to UNLOCK the HD2. I have AT&T currently that's why.
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not that sort of unlocking. There is no free way to network unlock a hd2, other than by getting a code from the network it came from, or buying one online.
You will have read about rom unlocking, meaning you can flash, but that would still be network locked.

Well off topic, but I like you. You can read.
Majority of new users in this forum can't read, and it annoys the hell out of me. But you're different, you're willing to read and abide by the rules. So I think modding the HD2 won't be hard for you since you're able to read. So best of luck, hope you enjoy WP7, android and winmo.
Hope you continue reading.

Kailkti said:
Well off topic, but I like you. You can read.
Majority of new users in this forum can't read, and it annoys the hell out of me. But you're different, you're willing to read and abide by the rules. So I think modding the HD2 won't be hard for you since you're able to read. So best of luck, hope you enjoy WP7, android and winmo.
Hope you continue reading.
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Thanks. It's good to follow the rules.
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Ice Cream Sandwich UI leaks

Earlier RootzWiki and AndroidPolice both received leaks from a "extremely reliable source" and they both obtained 2 different pictures of the new Ice Cream Sandwich interface running on the Nexus S.
You can read the whole article here:
http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/11/delicious-android-ice-cream-sandwich-images-leak-online/
Here are the leaks:
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ICS is also to include:
Brand-new launcher and app drawer, with screenshots of both featured exclusively on RootzWiki - with what appears to be a task switcher icon on the homescreen, though it could be something else.
Camera now has a panorama mode (not pictured)
Gmail has been totally re-themed to go with the new OS (not pictured)
Nexus S will be receiving ICS via update, but the "Nexus Prime" will be getting it first
Mostly UI changes - many older devices (< 1 year old) should be able to run it
Personally, I feel like these are fake. However, the AndroidPolice writers were heavily defending the credibility of their source in the comments section of the original post.
My reasons for being skeptical include:
At Google IO, they announced ICS would get a complete UI overhaul. This is the same basic layout we've been seeing for a long time.
The phone icon is the same as from eclair. A phone icon inside a sqaure, while the newest phone icon in gingerbread is just a phone with no square. Why would google use "new" icons for most of gapps but not the phone?
All the icons are the exact same ones from the Honeybread T-Mobile theme (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gfxandroid.honeybreadtheme&feature=search_result) I'm not sure what the original source of the icons were, but I do know the same icons were "released" way before these leaks.
The signal bar icon is rotated, as is in honeycomb (a tablet thing). The honeybread theme also rotates the signal bar. I don't think google would get rid of the standard bars that's been the same on (as far as I know) every cell phone ever.
To me these just look like a gingerbread build themed with a modified build.prop.
Those are just my 2 cents as of now. There are a couple other things that just don't fit, but then again there are a couple of things that haven't been seen before. I do know that icons can just be used as placeholders when developing and that this is not nearly finished so the final product could (and hopefully) be completely different. What are your opinons?

hmmm... interesting...

why not consider it is still work in progress? at least that is what i would consider it is...

so the same kernel as Gingerbread?

I vote fake as well.
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Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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xzr3b0rnzx said:
Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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I have to disagree. I can't speak for Google video as I don't use it, but Music and the new Market work damn near flawlessly on my device

Not sure of the source of the icons? Have you heard of something called Android 3.0?
Anyway, it looks like the interface is extremely WIP graphics wise, but this definitely seems like the real deal. I just want to know what's going to happen to phones that have softkeys with this release and if ICS phones will have virtual ones as has been speculated.
Also, I feel that the nexus won't be getting an official release of this, especially with the weak GPU.

Fake--
NO real changes, I have blue items in status bar too
That is a Nexus S, this is an N1 thread--
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO

rugmankc said:
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO
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lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.

GldRush98 said:
lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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The N1 thus far has been able to handle everything even better than most phones that have come out in the past year. The custom kernels and oses for the N1 are incredible.

GldRush98 said:
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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attacking people like this is what makes this place worse...
Everyone can have his own opinion mate....
Anyways am sure whatever changes are coming will mostly be ported out to our lovely N1 via custom roms thanks to the awesome devs around here!

If wp7 can make good use if the adreno 200, I am pretty sure google can make ics work well on the same gpu.

GldRush98 said:
lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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Thanks for the mature post
A better comment would have been telling me why it will and educating me not chastising me. It is only an opinion as pointed in my "IMHO" comment. I for one hope it will as I am only into 6 months of a 2 year contract with TMO. Brought the N1 to TMO from another carrier. I should have said that I didn't think it would work thru a normal OTA, but that with devs like Cyanogen, it may. Also, I don't know if anyone knows how much is being changed and if hardware will come into play. If you already know the source code enlighten us. I am no programmer, just a flasher. If this article is accurate it should work and seems to be little changed to a laymen. But, who knows yet?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2101386/android-ice-cream-sandwich-leaked
Either way, it is my opinion at some point the N1's hardware or internal memory won't handle the newer OS's. ICS may not be that point yet. Hopefully never. We are running sense roms, thanks to folks like evil etc, but not without issues for a lot of folks. Bad blocks seem to hamper the N1 in some of these roms and the touch screen is not the best.
Another thread with varying opinions, albeit two months old--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137301
Either way I have thick skin and let's hope it works great
Ken

Don't know if these links have been posted before or their accuracy, but they seem to support our HOPE for ICS and talk about Nexus Prime. If this is old news sorry! Two pages.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/compa..._nexus_one_vs_google_nexus_prime_rumours.html

If that's ics than its atrocious.
This will be the third straight dud out of Google.
I can't fathom "most work we've put into a release" and "total ui overhaul" result in that.
Seriously if that's real might as well hand over the reigns to crapple.

Quick thought,
Where it says android version, instead of sayin ICS shouldnt it say 2.4? To me it looks like somesones just recolored and renamed bits of CM7 I reckon this is fake but i guess we'll just have to wait and see

Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.

rugmankc said:
Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.
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Shouldnt be that hard to track down. Since every single android release has had "leaks". Im sure whoever did this would have done that as well (if it were fake)

Agreed, having ICS means nothing
But, all I remember on pics is 2.3--
or, the GR122 or whatever the number is. It dosen't show on the MIUI rom I am on atm. Think it does on Cyan.
Either way after further research and faith in Cyan, I think we may see ICS on the N1. Unless some new info comes out. It would be nice because GB has reached it's wow factor to me at this time.
Flashing was more exciting 6-12 months ago