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AT&T 850 MHz 3G

I've been searching around and I can't get a definite answer...
Can the vibrant pick up the AT&T 850 MHz 3G network? Is there any way to turn on this feature?
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Yes. The 1900mhz I believe as well. Idk what you search but Google "Vibrant on at&t 3G"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...vibrant+on+att+3G&aq=f&aqi=g-s1g-ms1&aql=&oq=
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Use SGS Tools. Select secret codes. Scroll down to band selection and it will give you all the options.
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I've turned every band on, but I'm still only on edge...
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wearmaize said:
I've turned every band on, but I'm still only on edge...
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Are you using the correct APN settings?

Don't really know what mine is set on but im running bionix v and my vibrant is unlocked and it works perfectly on 3g att so it will run on 3g
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I can get 3G in other areas, but not here, which leads me to believe it's just a 850 MHz band.
I can take out the SIM and put it in an iPhone and it picks up 3G just fine, whereas the vibrant is stuck on edge. It's frustrating to keep having to reboot the phone to pop out the SIM
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wearmaize said:
I can get 3G in other areas, but not here, which leads me to believe it's just a 850 MHz band.
I can take out the SIM and put it in an iPhone and it picks up 3G just fine, whereas the vibrant is stuck on edge. It's frustrating to keep having to reboot the phone to pop out the SIM
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Its got to be unlocked doesn't it to work on att 3g network don't it?

Here we go again...
Here we go again. If you are referring to the T-Mobile USA Vibrant, it does not have support for 850Mhz UMTS bands. Period. The FCC says so. That is pretty definitive as far as I am concerned. It does not matter what some piece of software shows you. The hardware is not capable as it sits in the T-Mobile USA Vibrant. Search the FCC database for the Vibrant. GSM 850Mhz ≠ UMTS 850Mhz.

Pretty sure it's just 1900MHz. The FCC documents would have included the 850MHz band if it was really there.
Edit: Lol, yeah what he said.
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Thanks for clearing it up now comes the dilemma of deciding whether to use the vibrant or an iPhone that uses the 3G speeds...
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Tmobile Vibrant does have capability to operate on ATT 3G network.
I could get it working with iphone sim card.
Specification also includes ATT frequencies.
Att is using two frequencies for 3G.

If it don't run on 3g then why does my vibrant have a 3g data icon and is blazing fast on it?
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It runs on 3G in areas where AT&T uses 1900MHz for 3G. It runs on Edge in areas where AT&T only uses 850MHz for 3G.
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joe3681 said:
Yes. The 1900mhz I believe as well. Idk what you search but Google "Vibrant on at&t 3G"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...vibrant+on+att+3G&aq=f&aqi=g-s1g-ms1&aql=&oq=
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No. No it can't.
Jesus Christ. Is it really that hard to not respond when you clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about?

Yes yes it can like I said I have a us vibrant and it switches between e witch is edge and 3g don't know how but it has a 3g icon that tells me that its on 3g if it not then why does it say 3g? And it is a beast on 3g on every once in a while it will have a H icon most of the time it SAYS 3G!!!!
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jlg19753 said:
Yes yes it can like I said I have a us vibrant and it switches between e witch is edge and 3g don't know how but it has a 3g icon that tells me that its on 3g if it not then why does it say 3g? And it is a beast on 3g on every once in a while it will have a H icon most of the time it SAYS 3G!!!!
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because of this:
inconceeeivable said:
It runs on 3G in areas where AT&T uses 1900MHz for 3G. It runs on Edge in areas where AT&T only uses 850MHz for 3G.
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Precisely.
The Vibrant does not have 850mhz 3g support. Only AWS(1700)/PCS(1900)/IMT(2100) 3g support.

Wow...just wow. Seriously, the FCC does not generally lie about things like this. And no, I don't think it is a big conspiracy in this case...lol

kmdub said:
Wow...just wow. Seriously, the FCC does not generally lie about things like this. And no, I don't think it is a big conspiracy in this case...lol
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I'm not sure what this is about. Maybe it's just wishful thinking run amok...seems like most of these people either want to switch to AT&T or bought the phone intending to use it on AT&T, have since found out that it won't work in their area, and are refusing to ultimately admit to themselves that it won't work.
People like to think to themselves, "Well, maybe the FCC screwed up and I DO have a pentaband (or quadband?) 3G phone." The slightest bit of uncertainty encourages such thoughts...there are threads with jokers enabling the fake 850MHz menu selection and exclaiming, "OMG, I have AT&T 3G on 850MHz" when they already had it on 1900MHz. People who bother googling the question ahead of time will no doubt find some older, confusing threads.(Albeit they will hopefully find more and more threads with people like us saying "No, it's not in the FCC docs," etc.)
We should have a sticky or something about this lol.

Yes, I googled it and found conflicting reports which is why I came here to clear it up.
Thanks again
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EVDO rev. B & LTE support coming to the EVO?

Take this for what it is, it could mean the EVO is going to get support for EVDO rev. B & LTE or it could just be leftover unused code but I did find these references in the leaked gingerbread init.rc.
My guess is that it's leftovers but I guess we won't know for a while
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setprop net.tcp.buffersize.lte 4094,87380,196608,4096,16384,196608
setprop net.tcp.buffersize.evdo_b 4094,87380,262144,4096,16384,262144

Lte with the evo would be sooo tight
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No ones sure about rev b ... so we can only hope! Not so hopeful about lte tho.
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Much more likely to be left over code from other devices. The sense code is most definitely shared between devices.
A while back I also looked into Rev b support, and while the snapdragon has support, it lacks the transmitter. Likely to be similar with LTE and authorization will likely be done with SIMs.
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Award Tour said:
Much more likely to be left over code from other devices. The sense code is most definitely shared between devices.
A while back I also looked into Rev b support, and while the snapdragon has support, it lacks the transmitter. Likely to be similar with LTE and authorization will likely be done with SIMs.
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I thought the radio on the EVO would not be compatible with LTE... AFAIK, only the towers can be upgraded by changing a few pieces of equipment to make them LTE-compatible. As far as the phone goes... well it won't connect to LTE since the radio was not designed for it.
At least that was my understanding around the EVO and its compatibility with LTE.

Calkulin said:
Take this for what it is, it could mean the EVO is going to get support for EVDO rev. B & LTE or it could just be leftover unused code but I did find these references in the leaked gingerbread init.rc.
My guess is that it's leftovers but I guess we won't know for a while
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setprop net.tcp.buffersize.lte 4094,87380,196608,4096,16384,196608
setprop net.tcp.buffersize.evdo_b 4094,87380,262144,4096,16384,262144
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HTC builds a basic sense firmware, so this could be in there for verizon. I believe in the incredible people found wimax logos buried in the about phone HTC area

alainater said:
Lte with the evo would be sooo tight
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pretty silly statement. LTE is no better than WiMax in any way. Just b/c the Evo gets LTE doesn't mean it solves all the problems WiMax has given people. And by all the problems I mean the 1 and only problem in that is has provided poor coverage. This is mainly because of the freq its on. Just swaping over to LTE on the same freq will do nothing to help us.

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pretty silly statement. LTE is no better than WiMax in any way. Just b/c the Evo gets LTE doesn't mean it solves all the problems WiMax has given people. And by all the problems I mean the 1 and only problem in that is has provided poor coverage. This is mainly because of the freq its on. Just swaping over to LTE on the same freq will do nothing to help us.
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Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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davidc23 said:
Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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Are you stupid? WiMax is not even running at it's full potential. Coverage and building penetration is the only issues I see with WiMax.

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Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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wayy faster? not the thread for that debate but your flat out wrong. please dont compare the 5 thunderbolt users speeds versus the thousands of thousands of evo users speeds.

davidc23 said:
Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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Doesn't matter how fast it is if it's 2.5Ghz and won't propagate or penetrate walls. That freq range is only slightly lower than military satcom. It's best suited for circular polarized line of sight type
communications, or short range only.
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I think when people say LTE would be better it's because Sprints LTE implementation would almost definitely be done over their old Nextel frequencies. Which basically means better penetration than Clears WiMax.
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davidc23 said:
Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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There is no saturation on Verizon's LTE networks so to make that statement makes you appear stupid. Please, next time, think before you speak.

Award Tour said:
I think when people say LTE would be better is because Sprints LTE implementation would almost definitely be done over their old Nextel frequencies. Which basically means better penetration than Clears WiMax.
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that or they simply don't understand what they are talking about to begin with fully. Regardless anything being used on that freq will not take place till 2013 since thats when they said they plan to have iden shut off and switched over to using cdma.

btw Great to see you around Calk! Hows the kid doing? gotten a chance to check out the Sensation Port at all?

Unused code: LTE requires a new radio, Rev b most likely would too, but it doesn't matter as no carrier supports EVDO rev b anyway.

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Coverage and building penetration is the only issues I see with WiMax.
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You say that like it's trivial. Those two factors make the 4G network unusable even in areas where it's supposed to exist.

The EVO already has built in support for Rev. B, LTE would be impossible as it is in the GSM family and would require a SIM card.

jackjumper85 said:
The EVO already has built in support for Rev. B, LTE would be impossible as it is in the GSM family and would require a SIM card.
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Correct even the tbolt uses a sim card to access lte.
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The EVO already has built in support for Rev. B, LTE would be impossible as it is in the GSM family and would require a SIM card.
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You sure? The first gen Snapdragon chipset does, but the transmitter doesn't.
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Clearwire adding 120Mbps 'LTE Advanced-ready' technology to its holdings

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/03/clearwire-adding-lte-advanced-ready-technology-to-its-holdings/

I'm confused. Are they talking about running their LTE over the 2.5 ghz spectrum? That seems ridiculous
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HTC's new beast

Has anybody heard of the HTC edge and the zeta 2.5ghz with qad core processor
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mkjsr757 said:
Has anybody heard of the HTC edge and the zeta 2.5ghz with qad core processor
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No but hopefully its out by February when i can upgrade

We won't hear about the Edge til February or March at that Mobile World or whatever event. The Zeta doesn't exist.
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I haven't heard of it, but if it's out around April when I can upgrade, it sounds like it could be awesome. I'm going to look for some info on it now.
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From the pictures I've seen I know ill be getting it to retire the evo
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There were a few things that might make me think it wont be for sprint. :'(

really no sprint?

According to Pocketnow, the device will supposedly offer a quad-core 1.5GHz CPU, 4.7-inch 720p HD display, 1GB of RAM, an 8MP rear camera with f/2.2 lens and Beats Audio. Curiously, no LTE capability was mentioned specifically, though 21Mbps HSPA+ appears to be good to go, and there's a slight possibility of Sense 4.0 being included
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Isnt HSPA+ for at&t or tmobile, can't remember exactly.

oOflyeyesOo said:
Isnt HSPA+ for at&t or tmobile, can't remember exactly.
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T-Mobile
Just like most beast I'm sure we'll get it's counter part or a CDMA version.

Korean Note to be released on 11-29

To All who are interested (TMO ppl) The South Korean Note is scheduled to be released on 11-29-11. This will be a variant of the Euro version and is scheduled to have penta-band capability (1700/2100) It also is a LTE version capable of 42 mb d/l (theoretically) You can read more here:
http://sammyhub.com/2011/11/24/sk-telecom-to-release-galaxy-note-in-south-korea/
This will be the version that is supposed to be compatible with T-Mobile USA.

No exynos though.

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No exynos though.
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They are using the snapdragon?
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xandermpls said:
They are using the snapdragon?
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The article says 1.5 ghz dual core, Exynos doesn't make 1.5. Take a look at the Galaxy Skyrocket...
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They are using the snapdragon?
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Yeah its the same Crapdragon as the one found in the AT&T ****rocket.

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Provided by SK Telecom, wiki says they are CDMA based provider not GSM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Telecom

If some people think there is lag on the Note with the 1.4Ghz Exynos they'll really think it lags with the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon.

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No exynos though.
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Which means it uses Qualcomm S3 which means will likely support T-Mobile band. Great.
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If some people think there is lag on the Note with the 1.4Ghz Exynos they'll really think it lags with the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon.
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I doubt it'll be a problem if you root and get rid of the bloats and after developers get rid of Carrier IQ.

Questions is who's selling their 1.4hz to get the new 1.5hz. I know Im really looking at getting this one as soon as it becomes available in the us. EBAY here i come...
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Questions is who's selling their 1.4hz to get the new 1.5hz. I know Im really looking at getting this one as soon as it becomes available in the us. EBAY here i come...
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Unless your in an LTE market that this Korean Note will work on and you have an Unlimited data plan there's no reason to get it. The 1.5Ghz Snapdragon is slower than the 1.4Ghz Exynos in the current non-LTE Note. It's slower than the 1.2Ghz Exynos in the SGS2 and people have commented on how the AT&T Samsung Galaxy Skyrocket which also uses the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon isn't as snappy as the SGS2.

Hold on you know what we should try first, the modem file. Lol
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Unless your in an LTE market that this Korean Note will work on and you have an Unlimited data plan there's no reason to get it. The 1.5Ghz Snapdragon is slower than the 1.4Ghz Exynos in the current non-LTE Note. It's slower than the 1.2Ghz Exynos in the SGS2 and people have commented on how the AT&T Samsung Galaxy Skyrocket which also uses the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon isn't as snappy as the SGS2.
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I know but Im looking at the fact that Im a t-mobile user with 3 phones on a family plan and Wish my note worked on t-mobile 4g. And I didn't have to run to at&t for service.
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oka1 said:
To All who are interested (TMO ppl) The South Korean Note is scheduled to be released on 11-29-11. This will be a variant of the Euro version and is scheduled to have penta-band capability (1700/2100) It also is a LTE version capable of 42 mb d/l (theoretically) You can read more here:
http://sammyhub.com/2011/11/24/sk-telecom-to-release-galaxy-note-in-south-korea/
This will be the version that is supposed to be compatible with T-Mobile USA.
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If it is Korean wont it be 29-11-11?

seepage said:
If it is Korean wont it be 29-11-11?
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Cute Touche' Does anyone Know a Korean a website in English they have run into for ordering from the USA
As far as the snapdragon being slow, remember I have tried both chips and unless you are a gamer it is not that noticeable of an issue especially, when new roms start rolling out.

Has anybody found out what bands this new Galaxy Note from Korea will support I can't find anything.

I heard all bands, 1700 aswell.
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anyone know if it'll come with nfc?

Not really worried about NFC yet until more stuff works with it I just want it to work with T-Mobile
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Another problem I just thought of is that Korea is kinda locked down its going to be hard as hell trying to get a phone internationally shipped but I may be wrong
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