Take this for what it is, it could mean the EVO is going to get support for EVDO rev. B & LTE or it could just be leftover unused code but I did find these references in the leaked gingerbread init.rc.
My guess is that it's leftovers but I guess we won't know for a while
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setprop net.tcp.buffersize.lte 4094,87380,196608,4096,16384,196608
setprop net.tcp.buffersize.evdo_b 4094,87380,262144,4096,16384,262144
Lte with the evo would be sooo tight
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No ones sure about rev b ... so we can only hope! Not so hopeful about lte tho.
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Much more likely to be left over code from other devices. The sense code is most definitely shared between devices.
A while back I also looked into Rev b support, and while the snapdragon has support, it lacks the transmitter. Likely to be similar with LTE and authorization will likely be done with SIMs.
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Much more likely to be left over code from other devices. The sense code is most definitely shared between devices.
A while back I also looked into Rev b support, and while the snapdragon has support, it lacks the transmitter. Likely to be similar with LTE and authorization will likely be done with SIMs.
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I thought the radio on the EVO would not be compatible with LTE... AFAIK, only the towers can be upgraded by changing a few pieces of equipment to make them LTE-compatible. As far as the phone goes... well it won't connect to LTE since the radio was not designed for it.
At least that was my understanding around the EVO and its compatibility with LTE.
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Take this for what it is, it could mean the EVO is going to get support for EVDO rev. B & LTE or it could just be leftover unused code but I did find these references in the leaked gingerbread init.rc.
My guess is that it's leftovers but I guess we won't know for a while
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setprop net.tcp.buffersize.lte 4094,87380,196608,4096,16384,196608
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HTC builds a basic sense firmware, so this could be in there for verizon. I believe in the incredible people found wimax logos buried in the about phone HTC area
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Lte with the evo would be sooo tight
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pretty silly statement. LTE is no better than WiMax in any way. Just b/c the Evo gets LTE doesn't mean it solves all the problems WiMax has given people. And by all the problems I mean the 1 and only problem in that is has provided poor coverage. This is mainly because of the freq its on. Just swaping over to LTE on the same freq will do nothing to help us.
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pretty silly statement. LTE is no better than WiMax in any way. Just b/c the Evo gets LTE doesn't mean it solves all the problems WiMax has given people. And by all the problems I mean the 1 and only problem in that is has provided poor coverage. This is mainly because of the freq its on. Just swaping over to LTE on the same freq will do nothing to help us.
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Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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Are you stupid? WiMax is not even running at it's full potential. Coverage and building penetration is the only issues I see with WiMax.
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Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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wayy faster? not the thread for that debate but your flat out wrong. please dont compare the 5 thunderbolt users speeds versus the thousands of thousands of evo users speeds.
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Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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Doesn't matter how fast it is if it's 2.5Ghz and won't propagate or penetrate walls. That freq range is only slightly lower than military satcom. It's best suited for circular polarized line of sight type
communications, or short range only.
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I think when people say LTE would be better it's because Sprints LTE implementation would almost definitely be done over their old Nextel frequencies. Which basically means better penetration than Clears WiMax.
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Are you stupid? LTE is wayy faster then wimax
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There is no saturation on Verizon's LTE networks so to make that statement makes you appear stupid. Please, next time, think before you speak.
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I think when people say LTE would be better is because Sprints LTE implementation would almost definitely be done over their old Nextel frequencies. Which basically means better penetration than Clears WiMax.
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that or they simply don't understand what they are talking about to begin with fully. Regardless anything being used on that freq will not take place till 2013 since thats when they said they plan to have iden shut off and switched over to using cdma.
btw Great to see you around Calk! Hows the kid doing? gotten a chance to check out the Sensation Port at all?
Unused code: LTE requires a new radio, Rev b most likely would too, but it doesn't matter as no carrier supports EVDO rev b anyway.
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Coverage and building penetration is the only issues I see with WiMax.
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You say that like it's trivial. Those two factors make the 4G network unusable even in areas where it's supposed to exist.
The EVO already has built in support for Rev. B, LTE would be impossible as it is in the GSM family and would require a SIM card.
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The EVO already has built in support for Rev. B, LTE would be impossible as it is in the GSM family and would require a SIM card.
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Correct even the tbolt uses a sim card to access lte.
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The EVO already has built in support for Rev. B, LTE would be impossible as it is in the GSM family and would require a SIM card.
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You sure? The first gen Snapdragon chipset does, but the transmitter doesn't.
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Is Droid x capable of this? I have a feeling not... just saw the commercial for the first time.
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My understanding is absolutely not.
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Correct. To my knowledge, Verizon hasn't launched any device capable of that yet. I know the service is on track for a December launch.
I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Houston, etc., you won't get LTE until around 2013. We'll all have new phones by then.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Houston, etc., you won't get LTE until around 2013. We'll all have new phones by then.
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Tru. By then will have 12inch screen phones. 4 core processor and 3d options.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Houston, etc., you won't get LTE until around 2013. We'll all have new phones by then.
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I thought it was launching in all the football cities...
Expect 4g start to roll out in the first quarter of 2011. From what I understand, February. Once rolled out, it will be the most comprehensive 4g available in the US. Verizon has more more towers and are being retro-fitted.
i thought i saw somewhere that the software updates WOULD make the droid x capable with 4G LTE. i could be wrong. will try to find where i saw this
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i thought i saw somewhere that the software updates WOULD make the droid x capable with 4G LTE. i could be wrong. will try to find where i saw this
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Ya find this info because im very interested
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i thought i saw somewhere that the software updates WOULD make the droid x capable with 4G LTE. i could be wrong. will try to find where i saw this
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thats impossible, as 4G LTE will be based off a sim cards...
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thats impossible, as 4G LTE will be based off a sim cards...
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Is this a for sure fact? I thought I saw a blurb about this but said it would just be for broadband devices like tablets... Could be wrong tho =)
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It's true, plus a device would need the LTE radio chip as well
http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/02/sprint-close-to-20-billion-network-deal-with-lightsquared/
Great news
Wowee
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morrreee GGGGGGGGGGG's now now please !!!
Except Lightsquared is still having issues getting their LTE to work out and NOT effect GPS sat.'s.........
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/lightsquareds-lte-breaks-gps-in-new-mexico-trial-angers-john-d/
Great news
via EVO
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Except Lightsquared is still having issues getting their LTE to work out and NOT effect GPS sat.'s.........
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/lightsquareds-lte-breaks-gps-in-new-mexico-trial-angers-john-d/
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Dumb ****
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Dumb ****
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Its been a pretty known fact that they have had issues with interference from the get go but keep saying they know how to fix it. Funny that still now they haven't gotten it worked out.
yeah those GPS are a real issue
I were Sprint I wouldn't sign a deal until they can prove those are fixed
They will fix it. They have plenty of spectrum to do trial and error.
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Sprint gets almost 2 billion a year because of this deal...interference or not Sprint wins.
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Its been a pretty known fact that they have had issues with interference from the get go but keep saying they know how to fix it. Funny that still now they haven't gotten it worked out.
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If this deal goes through they will use Sprints spectrum which will not affect GPS.
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I just want 4G readily available from Sprint in every major city! Now, right now!
IIRC That doesn't do a damn thing for us EVO owners. Im pretty sure We cant run on LTE. I could be wrong.
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IIRC That doesn't do a damn thing for us EVO owners. Im pretty sure We cant run on LTE. I could be wrong.
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Your not wrong. Evo does not have a LTE radio to recieve LTE signal. But, by the time LTE is up all us phone nerds will be drooling over the new Evo 5d with quad core proccessor, 7.1 surround sound, adreno 2,000 and LTE/Wimax radio's. ( A boy can dream right ;p)
Anything 2 get rid of craptastic wimax
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Anything 2 get rid of craptastic wimax
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This, Wimax is quite the joke in terms of building penetration and connection. When I look on the Sprint map I have 4g service available, I can't even connect to the **** outside let alone inside. Hell it's so bad I don't even care if custom roms/ports don't have 4g because I can't use it.
End of rant.
Jfree3000 said:
This, Wimax is quite the joke in terms of building penetration and connection. When I look on the Sprint map I have 4g service available, I can't even connect to the **** outside let alone inside. Hell it's so bad I don't even care if custom roms/ports don't have 4g because I can't use it.
End of rant.
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If LTE was on the same frequency you would say LTE sucks.
It's not the technology its the FREQUENCY!!!!
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If LTE was on the same frequency you would say LTE sucks.
It's not the technology its the FREQUENCY!!!!
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DING DING DING!!!!
I pray for the day when people will finally realize this!
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If LTE was on the same frequency you would say LTE sucks.
It's not the technology its the FREQUENCY!!!!
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You are correct sir, left that out but I know its the frequency. Hence it sucks (for me at least).
Jfree3000 said:
This, Wimax is quite the joke in terms of building penetration and connection. When I look on the Sprint map I have 4g service available, I can't even connect to the **** outside let alone inside. Hell it's so bad I don't even care if custom roms/ports don't have 4g because I can't use it.
End of rant.
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I know exactly how u feel, check out my rant here
I still do use a 4G rom but I hardly every use 4G but it CAN be nice when it actually works which is hardly ever unless I'm on top of a mountain 50ft away from the wimax tower
http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=2211
It says LTE is still coming but the termination of the agreement with Lightsquared how will tis affect LTE? I just curious and figured i'd get better answers from a comunity full of smart people .
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It means LTE will not be in lightsquared's 1600mhz band, and instead will be in Sprint's 1900 and 800(former iden) bands which they would have been using anyway. So it means Sprint may be looking for additional spectrum to increase capacity down the line.
There was already a thread about this, must have died. Anyway their Lightsquared deal was to allow them faster deployment of LTE iirc. And also different spectrum.
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There was already a thread about this, must have died. Anyway their Lightsquad deal was to allow them faster deployment of LTE iirc. And also different spectrum.
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There were threads about the possibility
of this happening, it explained what it ment for sprint as A company and whether they would get lte or not but not what it ment for us, the lte users.
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It means LTE will not be in lightsquared's 1600mhz band, and instead will be in Sprint's 1900 and 800(former iden) bands which they would have been using anyway. So it means Sprint may be looking for additional spectrum to increase capacity down the line.
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Thanks.
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There was already a thread about this, must have died. Anyway their Lightsquared deal was to allow them faster deployment of LTE iirc. And also different spectrum.
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So there rollout is going to be slower now?
If so:
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So there rollout is going to be slower now?
If so:
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I think being a sprint customer, by now we all should be use to slow/partial roll outs of any kind that sprint has their hands on. But I highly doubt they would drop a contract or whatever without having some sort of plan. That would just be horrible business to kill something like that and just stand there and go "now what."
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So there rollout is going to be slower now?
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No. Lightsquared's LTE was to be an addition to Sprint's LTE; same with Clearwire's LTE.
Materially, however, we will have less 4G LTE coverage/spectrum due to the loss of this agreement, and Sprint lost a lucrative revenue source (billions of dollars).
sprint have lost one, but gained an new one.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Cric...Clearwire-in-providing-4G-LTE-service_id28049
sprint also say, if lightsquared's service gets ok'd one they are open to work with them
Looks like Orange County, CA and San Diego (all of it) in the second wave of LTE roll out...
http://s4gru.com/
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Looks like Orange County, CA and San Diego (all of it) in the second wave of LTE roll out...
http://s4gru.com/
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SAN ANTONIO is getting it first
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
Lol that Baltimore deployment it looks like i'll be right OUTSIDE the LTE coverage area >_<
FML
Aah, I missed the L.A. in first tier. I will probably still wait until the May 22nd announcement of the S3 to see if these specs and design are real..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-photo-of-the-galaxy-s-iii-the-plot-thickens/
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Virgin Mobile has now rolled out a 4G phone. For us Epic 4G users running on Virgin Mobile, I was wondering if it was possible to call up Virgin, find a nice support technician, and squeeze some info out of them. Perhaps get them to add our mac addresses to the system and clear us for 4G use.
Since the price points aren't changing, I don't see what the problem would be. All they have to do is add our mac address to the system and we should be able to pick up the networks.
I'm not expert at this, and I may be missing something. However, that's what I at least think should fix the problem.
I may give this a spin sometime, just have to get an understanding technician.
What are your theories? Any ideas? Something you have been working on?
I doubt they use WiMax
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I doubt they use WiMax
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Boost does. It may be how Sprint is trying to make up for it's losses on Wimax since they switched to LTE.
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Is it LTE or Wimax?
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It's sprints Wimax... They invested too much in Wimax to just toss it out the window so they opened it up to us boost Virgin users to get some extra life out of it since sprint will be rolling out it's LTE soon.
And don't trust sprint or boost or Virgins site for Wimax coverage... They have switched on a bunch of Wimax towers that don't show up unless you look on clear.com
Like here in Lincoln Nebraska!
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Yes, they are using Wimax..
If you go to epic's virgin Mobile tut, Brooksysx talks about the whole she-bang in length, it's possible to use, but tedious to the average noob nonetheless.
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...and not they are getting the iPhone as well.
SEE POST 30 TO CHANGE YOUR PRIORITY BAND COVERAGE!
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...ark-4g-network-problems-phone-calls/index.htm
I asked the store rep if Sprint is working on a fix, but we all know the Sprint reps are usually useless answering these questions (by this I mean at the store they are only trying to make a sell). Her answer was that Sprint is working on a fix that will fix all phones with an OTA. My next question was is this a hardware or software problem which she responded that it is a tower problem. I looked online for an answer but all I could find is that Sprint responded with a weird kinda lame answer that didn't really say if they are working on a fix or not. On Sprint's Forum a rep says they are, but they say a lot of things on the forum that aren't correct also. This seems to be a very frustrating situation actually.
Does it matter to you?
It does to me, but at the same time it isn't a function I use all the time. My only reason that it has helped me, is that it has greatly helped me with work a few or more times.
I am kinda forced to buy a new phone for framily / billing reasons... huge bill without it. I am sorta thinking that I will upgrade the phone but at the same time keep my S4 handy in case I hate the S5. I went to the store today and I have to say it actually surprised me with it's new version of Touchwiz- even though I usually hate Touchwiz.
The only real reason I can see me upgrading is the camera and battery algorithms for power saving.
I call crap!
I've had none of these issues personally, and you can just turn off Spark.
I spoke with sprint today and they said it would be fixed when spark opens up nation wide.
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Spark is crap!!!
The reason you can only use one at a time is the triband antenna in the phone it can only use one signal at a time. It may be fixed once sprint starts using voice over LTE. Plus spark is just a unborn baby right now, not even full deployed. The sprint map says spark coverage is in certain areas on the sprint coverage map on the website. This is not true, the sprak network is 2.5Ghz radio head on the the already existing towers(have not be built or not on-air yet). According to sprint Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung towers are the only companies that are contracted to work on spark networks. Ericsson is looking like they will not be apart of the upgrade. This means there will be 1/3 of the sprint market that will not have spark. Sprint has the the companies split by markets and only two of them have contracts to build in their area.
Here is an article that will cover a good about of that info.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...dors-absence-sprints-spark-program/2013-10-30
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The reason you can only use one at a time is the triband antenna in the phone it can only use one signal at a time. It may be fixed once sprint starts using voice over LTE. Plus spark is just a unborn baby right now, not even full deployed. The sprint map says spark coverage is in certain areas on the sprint coverage map on the website. This is not true, the sprak network is 2.5Ghz radio head on the the already existing towers(have not be built or not on-air yet). According to sprint Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung towers are the only companies that are contracted to work on spark networks. Ericsson is looking like they will not be apart of the upgrade. This means there will be 1/3 of the sprint market that will not have spark. Sprint has the the companies split by markets and only two of them have contracts to build in their area.
Here is an article that will cover a good about of that info.
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NSN will be the contractor for the Areas served by Ericsson for NV 1.0. The reason you can not get SVLTE is because they do not have multiple pathways for 1x and LTE. Here it talks about it. The S5 was not the first phone to have this happen, All tri-Band Phones will most likely be without SVLTE from now on.
S4gru has a few pages explaining it better.
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NSN will be the contractor for the Areas served by Ericsson for NV 1.0. The reason you can not get SVLTE is because they do not have multiple pathways for 1x and LTE. Here it talks about it. The S5 was not the first phone to have this happen, All tri-Band Phones will most likely be without SVLTE from now on.
S4gru has a few pages explaining it better.
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Yes, I forgot to mention it is not only the S5, but all Triband phones. I mostly wanted to put this out here in the open for feedback and other peoples knowledge when contemplating the S5 as an update. I would have been absolutely pissed if I found out after the fact.
It's being discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712240
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They have to enable it on the network side to allow dual channels on a single LTE channel
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pro_granade said:
I've had none of these issues personally, and you can just turn off Spark.
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How do you turn off Spark?
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How do you turn off Spark?
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You can't
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This is really confusing to me. I thought Atlanta was a spark location...now I have a brand new phone and only see 3g on it
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This is really confusing to me. I thought Atlanta was a spark location...now I have a brand new phone and only see 3g on it
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Read this. It will explain it much better.
It's a long read, but well worth your time
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
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Now that Sprint has wifi calling it seems like it would be easy to use the same service over LTE. Then 1X voice wouldn't be needed and you could use data+voice simultaneously.
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Now that Sprint has wifi calling it seems like it would be easy to use the same service over LTE. Then 1X voice wouldn't be needed and you could use data+voice simultaneously.
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How do we use wifi calling?
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Where can u find what areas/towers has this completed on? I'm really thinking about upgrading but don't want to be with out 4G when I have strong 4G in my area with my S3.
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BubZX said:
Where can u find what areas/towers has this completed on? I'm really thinking about upgrading but don't want to be with out 4G when I have strong 4G in my area with my S3.
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I had 4G on my S3 in New Orleans and I currently have 4G with my S5
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I don't have an S5 yet but I have a Mega with Spark and I have no issues whatsoever.
Well I got the sprint spark friday when it came out and jus like my s4....I still got crappy coverage at my house but suppose to have best signal
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soufdallas said:
Well I got the sprint spark friday when it came out and jus like my s4....I still got crappy coverage at my house but suppose to have best signal
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Having sprint spark doesn't mean your going to have best speeds unless your connected to band 41 or band 26 which is the newest bands. With those speeds you have there i wouldn't be surprise if your connected to band 25 which is the 1900mhz which yea its loaded with majority of sprint customers which is going to give you real slow speeds.
Here some speed test on band 41 i took yesterday morning when i was heading to go play some basketball.
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Having sprint spark doesn't mean your going to have best speeds unless your connected to band 41 or band 26 which is the newest bands. With those speeds you have there i wouldn't be surprise if your connected to band 25 which is the 1900mhz which yea its loaded with majority of sprint customers which is going to give you real slow speeds.
Here some speed test on band 41 i took yesterday morning when i was heading to go play some basketball.View attachment 2686876
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WOW @ THOSE SPEEDS....Fukin incredible.............so im guessing they have to turn on that band 41 for me
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WOW @ THOSE SPEEDS....Fukin incredible.............so im guessing they have to turn on that band 41 for me
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Where do you live? And also what i did was i went into my settings ##data# and made band 41 as my primary. My list is #1 band 41 as primary, #2 is band 25 and #3 is band 26 since its not active here in Miami yet but band 41 is doing great so far as you can see.
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