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Legend to Desire

Hey all !
i was wondering about selling my legend and buy the htc desire ?
but i thought the htc desire looked pretty big.. ?
but is this a good replacement ?

The desire has better specs but a little lower build quality.
I'd say over all its a great replacement though
On a side note, how much would you be selling your legend for? I'm looking to grab one if its the canadian version

I'm from Faroe Islands (check google or something if you want to know more about it)
im not sure how i could send it to you from here.. :S

and.. i know that the specs are better on the htc desire, but i was thinking about the size.. for me the htc desire looks pretty big, but am i wrong ?

TheTmac said:
and.. i know that the specs are better on the htc desire, but i was thinking about the size.. for me the htc desire looks pretty big, but am i wrong ?
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The best comparison I could find is here http://www.omio.com/phones/compare/htc_desire+htc_legend
It seems the desire is just a few millimeters bigger length and width wise, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
How much are you looking at selling it for? As for the islands your at, I'm really not sure how it would work anyways, international mail or something maybe?

kylecore said:
The best comparison I could find is here http://www.omio.com/phones/compare/htc_desire+htc_legend
It seems the desire is just a few millimeters bigger length and width wise, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
How much are you looking at selling it for? As for the islands your at, I'm really not sure how it would work anyways, international mail or something maybe?
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my mail is [email protected]

Haha I didn't mean your email I meant to send would have to be through international mail

ooh, loool XD

I know this isn't what you asked but...
Have you considered the Nexus One rather than the desire? Same spec but the N1 runs froyo...
On paper the desire/N1 is faster, in reality the gap, as far as I can tell in my research is non existent (although I have heard claims that the legend is much faster due to lower res screen). The legend has less memory however and therefore could run fewer apps at the same time? This has never been a problem for me personally.
Build quality of course is a big change, the N1/Desire feel quite sturdy but the Legend is made of frikkin metal.

TheTmac said:
ooh, loool XD
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just an update, legend should get froyo
BUT
flash 10.1 most likely wont run due to the phones processor, it is not capable of running it, as of now anyways...
however, i'm sure after some time flash may get officially released or the modding community may try and do something about it but thats not something to rely on

desire is actually a reallllly good phone, i say sell the legend and get it!

The legend is hot to look at but like most phones it will get damaged. I had an HTC Hero and using a Desire is great for the bug screen and browsing. That extra half inch has made a good mobile experience great! Gaming wise you probably won't notice a big deal due to the higher resolution. Neocore demo actually was on par and sometimes better than my Desire. The only thing would be the number of apps you could have running at once. Build wise I think the Desire is great, mine is anyway though being machine out of a single block of aluminium certainly gives it a feeling of solidity.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

i actually just found out that you can use the htc evo flash 10.1 on the legend running froyo with a small work around and it apparently works near flawlessly so it should take much for a full unhacked version to become released. if not the hack version will do just fine

I have one question about the Nexus One..
if i want trackball light on it, do i need to take in half, and install a LED to it, or is this already done ? so i only need boot the phone to get custom LEDs ?

TheTmac said:
I have one question about the Nexus One..
if i want trackball light on it, do i need to take in half, and install a LED to it, or is this already done ? so i only need boot the phone to get custom LEDs ?
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not to sure about this, you may want to check out the nexus one forums.
for the price of a nexus one there are many other phones that can and will do a better job.

kylecore said:
not to sure about this, you may want to check out the nexus one forums.
for the price of a nexus one there are many other phones that can and will do a better job.
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like which phones ?

anything without a trackball, my curve 8330 has a trackball and it always gets stuck. go with a trackpad or nothing.
the new evo is nice along the the droid x, also the htc incredible is amazing.
maybe even the samsung galaxy s?
there are tons of phones out there that are equal if not better then the nexus, just do a little research for what you like best
i'm still probably going to grab a legend either way though

[Q] Desire or Desire HD?

Hi dear,
I own galaxy s and I like it.
After I saw HTC desire hd, I've changed my mind though.
I'm about to sell my phone and going to get the phone ot desire.
Do you think if I will get desire(not hd), is it too late to get it?
Should I wait for desire hd?
I'm tired of the laggy on galaxy s...

13 days till HD is released, thats nothing honestly.
I've been waiting for months =X

@jorkobe23 The only reason you're considering buying a DHD is because of the lag issues on the SGS? If so, why not wait until the end of the month for the SGS update to 2.2 to see if it fixes the lag issues?
It may save you a lot of money to wait, especially since from your post it seems that other than the lag you're happy with your SGS.

nono,
I love sense ui and I want to have bigger screen.
I heard android froyo is optimized for snappgon cpu not hummingbird.
So many people guess even though froyo will release for galaxy s,
the laggy and gps problem will not be solved.

Idree: Haha,
did you sell your galaxy s?

wait for the DHD, its will be on stock very soon, until the 22th.
dono, for me anyway the SGS is not the real thing, no cm for that device yet, and dono, its made like plastic.

jorkobe23 said:
nono,
I love sense ui and I want to have bigger screen.
I heard android froyo is optimized for snappgon cpu not hummingbird.
So many people guess even though froyo will release for galaxy s,
the laggy and gps problem will not be solved.
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if you want a bigger screen i wouldn't go for the desire because that has a 3.7" screen which is smaller than your current phone, which is 4" the desire hd will have a screen of 4,3"

Desire HD advantages:
- updated graphics GPU (faster 3d games performance)
- bigger screen 4.3 vs 3.7inch
- 8MP camera with real 720p recording vs 5MP and broken 720p
- more RAM and more internal storage (internal is no issue on desire with A2SD+)
- Full aluminum body
- new sense
Desire advantages
- Slimmer, lighter and easier to operate in one hand
- Higher screen density (252dpi vs 233dpi)
- AMOLED or SLCD (Sexier colors and blacks then standard LCD on the HD with better viewing angle)
- semi aluminum frame
- new sense is on the way (either officially or by xda)
i'm personally in love with my dense SLCD screen and slim body, so i wait for the next desire, praying for 4inch version

Haha Thanks for useful information, hamdir.
Hm... I think I should go desire HD cos I heard desire has had multi touch problem, right?

jorkobe23 said:
Haha Thanks for useful information, hamdir.
Hm... I think I should go desire HD cos I heard desire has had multi touch problem, right?
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a slight multi touch problem, the desire is dual touch, i'm not facing any issues with games like hero of sparta and emulators
the issue appears with FPS like games for example where you might keep one finger still on the movement buttons and aim with the other
in games like heavy gunner where you have to dual control both left and right guns i faced no issues and i've enjoyed that game
as for the interface no problems, pinch to zoom works perfectly
but yes your right if that is a concern go with the HD (i'm not sure if multi touch is confirmed), the HD is more suited to games anyway because of the much faster GPU
for me i compared the HD2 usage to Desire usage and the size was unfortunatly an issue for me

Ok.. so I'm in the same situation here... and I can't make up my mind between the 2 phones ....
I've read this whole forum and also looked at the 20 best mobile phones at techradar - The original desire is still at number 1.
I like the big screen. I am basically in front of a pc the whole day .. So I can pretty much charge the phone anytime.
So I would like some input from fellow xda users ... which is the best to go for? Desire or Desire HD?

Cranzy said:
Ok.. so I'm in the same situation here... and I can't make up my mind between the 2 phones ....
I've read this whole forum and also looked at the 20 best mobile phones at techradar - The original desire is still at number 1.
I like the big screen. I am basically in front of a pc the whole day .. So I can pretty much charge the phone anytime.
So I would like some input from fellow xda users ... which is the best to go for? Desire or Desire HD?
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I have a Desire and just got the DHD last week. The DHD doesn't seem like a big enough upgrade over the Desire for me personally and I prefer the more compact size of the desire.
If I didn't already have the Desire, I would be happy with the DHD on it's merits.

@Cranzy: my opinion is that if you don't mind the extra 4mm height and 8mm width, if you don't mind the touch buttons and don't need the optical trackball, if you don't mind the maybe little lower battery life (on other side, on first run i still have 52% battery after nearly 12 hour run, so it looks like a full day with a bit higher usage than usual for me), then go for Desire HD. I got it yesterday, and it's impossible to compare with my old Milestone, the speed is like from a different planet .

Thanks for the info... Think I'm much more leaning towards the Desire HD ...

Ok... the more i read the forum here .. the more I'm thinking Im gonna make the wrong choice by moving to the desire HD and that I should rather be moving to the normal desire ... maybe I should go start reading the normal desire forums ...
Each phone has probably got their own problems...
Will future firmware updates fix most of these little nagging problems ..?
I am upgrading here from HTC diamond .. so both desire or desire HD is a major upgrade ...
Is everybody still saying I should go for the desire HD?

It all depends what you want, but don't forget that graphical performance of HTC Desire is ~50% of the Desire HD or Z.

I really like the big screen and htcsense feature ... i don't mind the battery ... just been reading about the sensor and camera issues ...
Im still leaning towards the Desire HD though

I'm on my second day of my dhd not totally sure if I'm keeping it . Love the screen size and battery life . But its not that much of an upgrade from my desire and I do like the amoled screen better on the desire .
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I gathered from the forums that if you are coming from the desire .. the upgrade isn't really worth it... but for me coming from htc diamond ... it will be

To be honest they are both great phones . Very tempted to keep the hd but will live with my desire till something a bit better comes along or my desire goes faulty . But never the less the hd is a class phone if your coming from something totally different .
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

[Q] 'Original' Desire vs. Desire Z

Hi guys,
I'm about to choose a new phone and the Desire Z seems like a good option for me. I'm also considering the original Desire. The Desire HD is too big for me, so this phone isn't an option.
I know the Z has faster hardware, but is the Z really noticeable faster in everyday use? Gaming isn't important to me, because I rarely do it. And does the original Desire also get the Gingerbread update? Thank in advance
Greetz!

Yes the Desire Z is much faster (especially overclocked).
Not sure if the Desire will be able to get Gingerbread, but I doubt it.

Smartphone technology evolves quickly. Don't buy outdated phones unless you are on a budget.

Pickx is absolutely right:
never buy an outdated phone, otherwise I'd be recommending the HD2
The Desire Z is currently the latest and newest android phone, it has the most up-to-date SoC (system on chip), and the latest HTC Sense software.
PS: As a plus, it also has a hardware QWERTY keyboard
So... why would you ever consider picking the "old" Desire if you can get the new one ??

Well, the original Desire is more pocket friendly and I´m not entirely sure I need a hardware keyboard

Dakota85 said:
Well, the original Desire is more pocket friendly and I´m not entirely sure I need a hardware keyboard
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obviously it is more pocket friendly because it doesn't have a keyboard
it depends on your needs
I can't live without a keyboard

Dakota85 said:
Well, the original Desire is more pocket friendly and I´m not entirely sure I need a hardware keyboard
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I'm with you on this, in exactly the same position! Have you had any more thoughts on this?
I am considering the Desire Z for the improved spec but am also considerinig the Galaxy S (purely for the better sound and the fact I don't need a keyboard).
Incidentally, just how usable IS the DZ keyboard? Is it really worth having?

Get a real Desire HD, slip it in your pocket (or where ever you store your phone) then decide if its too big or not. It has an extremely slim profile for the amount of phone you get.
I thought the same about the HD, but it really is not that big. Its on the verge of being too big, i.e the Dell Streak has 0.7" more screen and is not really a pocket friendly device.

xspyda said:
Incidentally, just how usable IS the DZ keyboard? Is it really worth having?
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It's very nice, best keyboard I've used on a phone so far personally. Keyboard is a must-have item for me though, if you know you definitely won't use it..well it does add a bit of bulk but not as much as you'd think. It's about 2mm thicker than the Desire and D HD and about 15-20g heavier.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA App

Thanks xerawx - that's good to know but I am still a little undecided. That said, I am tempted to buy and if I am not happy with it I cam return. Seems the best way to me

xspyda said:
Incidentally, just how usable IS the DZ keyboard? Is it really worth having?
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I found the DZ keyboard too big for my hands. I have average sized hands, but found that I had to stretch from the normal holding position to reach the middle keys. I ended up just using the on-screen keyboard after a few hours as it was much quicker than the hardware keyboard.
With that in mind, coupled with the loose hinge, I returned the DZ for a refund. What is the point in lugging round a 180g phone which is pretty brick like if I'm never going to use the hardware keyboard?
Now I'm back with my HD2 running Android until I can find something else that I like.
I grudge paying £350ish for a Desire when its a 6 month old phone... and I'm not really wanting a Desire HD as its bigger (fractionally) than my HD2 - which I already think is too big!
Every HTC phone thats been reviewed lately has been critisized for its speakeer and camera... is it time to change manufacturer? I've had 3 HTC's in a row and been happy with them all.

This or Milestone 2?

Hey guys!I'm currently living in Singapore and will be getting a new phone soon.I'm thinking of getting a Desire Z because its physical QWERTY keypad and the new snapdragon processor is really tempting!Just some question,is the bootloader locked?Because if possible,I'm going to put a new ROM.Can ROM Manager be used on it?What are your opinions?Because I'm also thinking about the Milestone 2.So,please help!Thanks!

AsherChua said:
Hey guys!I'm currently living in Singapore and will be getting a new phone soon.I'm thinking of getting a Desire Z because its physical QWERTY keypad and the new snapdragon processor is really tempting!Just some question,is the bootloader locked?Because if possible,I'm going to put a new ROM.Can ROM Manager be used on it?What are your opinions?Because I'm also thinking about the Milestone 2.So,please help!Thanks!
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You can root the Desire Z and install custom ROMs either manually or using ROM manager. Look in the G2 and Desire Z Android Development forum for more info on rooting and custom ROMs. If I had to choose between the Desire Z and the Milestone 2, I would hands-down choose the Desire Z. The Milestone 2 is not even close, in my opinion.

You have any problem with the hinge?And how is browsing and games on it?

The hinge "issue" is totally overblown, don't worry about it. Mine is fine, and I like how the keyboard opens easily. Games and browsing are smooth and a joy.
I haven't played with the Milestone 2 personally. But I've found every recent Motorola device I've laid my hands on to feel disappointingly cheap, and the keyboards very clunky feeling. Light years away from the high build quality of HTC devices.

Most probably will try out a Motorola Milestone 2 first because its cheaper.If I'm not satisfied with it,will be selling it and getting a Desire Z!But I don mind a few more opinions

Oh yeah,how much can I overclock the Milestone 2 to?Do I use setcpu or Milestone overclock?

HTC had built their brand on solid physical keyboards and this does not disappoint at all. The keyboard on this phone is suburb and you don't have to take my word on it, read some reviews online and they all say the same thing. The milestone keyboard was getting warm and cold reactions to it, so your either going to love it or hate it. Other then that, there really isn't any other differences. Both have solid build quality and have some developer support for custom ROMs and such.
Sent from my HTC Vision

I had teh Milestone 2, the keyboard is so much better on the G2.... plus Milestone 2 had sluggish performance because of motoblurr...

I'm not too worried about motoblur.But the locked bootloader on the Milestone 2 is truly frustrating!

AsherChua said:
Oh yeah,how much can I overclock the Milestone 2 to?Do I use setcpu or Milestone overclock?
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Not sure... It's fairly high but I don't thinks it's as high as 1.9Ghz
(I've managed to get mine up to 2.2Ghz But it's very buggy and freezes after 'bout 10seconds of use.... )

the locked bootloader alone would prevent me from buying it. I have no complaints with this phone. by far the best phone i have ever used.

Same here, Desire Z is by far the best phone ive ever used! Modding is great on it, a friend of mine had the moto droid (milestone) and modding on it was not as great as on the Desire Z.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Yeah Motorola really sucks to have a locked bootloader...Looks like I'm now leaning more towards the Desire Z!

You should also take into account the amout of dev support the G2 has, it's probably by far the phone with the most dev support since the G1, in my opinion; just tell me how many phones have a pre RC version of CM7 already out, from what I know, not that many.

never used any moto device, but I'll choose Desire Z over MS2 anytime.
There is one minor issue though: DZ's camera really sucks. Everything else is just perfect.
benchmark below was done @ 1.5GHz.

Wait a minute,I thought the Desire Z has 720p video recording?

AsherChua said:
Wait a minute,I thought the Desire Z has 720p video recording?
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yes, it does! but still picture quality is terrible, blurry and grainy. Video recording is ok.

i dont know why people are complaining about the video recording and picture quality. I have no problems. It takes great pics compared to any phone.

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i dont know why people are complaining about the video recording and picture quality. I have no problems. It takes great pics compared to any phone.
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I've sold my Nexus One already so I can't post side by side comparison shots. Below are a few ones take by Nexus One built-in camera app, untouched at all, click and zoom to see full resolution size.
Desire Z camera is nowhere nearly as good as Nexus One.
I realize that this is just a phone, not a camera. But coming from Nexus One which is also by htc, I am very disappointed at the picture quality of Desire Z.

Well I don really take pictures as much so that may not be too big a problem.What I really want is ability to play high end games and developers support!

[Q] Its upgrade time! Help me decide...

Due for an upgrade - been holding out for the HTC Desire Z as I love my keyboard, but have been offered the HTC Desire S.
I want some feedback in helping me decide...
Do you have a Desire Z? Is it aw awesome as it looks?
If you had the same choice, which would you choose?

Right now, neither.

i am using the desire z as my main phone now and it is a very good phone. the hardware keyboard is working fine and the hinge problem isn't such a problem as everybody says.
But...
if i would buy a new phone now it wouldn't be a desire z or a desire s. i would go for a phone with more power like the SG II. Don't get me wrong, the desire z is a awesome phone, but it lacks at raw power nowadays.
hope it helped

dz is kinda dying... people (talking about me) buy dz and overclock it, becausse its getting kinda slow (relatively to other phones)
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Get something with at least 1.5ghz+ to see something with moderate improvement over the DZ/DS. The era of ~1GHz phones is going to get phased out eventually when the devs are moving on to what is hot.
In Jan 2012 right now, that'd be the HTC/Tmobile Amaze, SGS2, Or the Optimus 4G, but dev support for that is limited.
I wouldn't pick either Desire Z or Desire S unless I knew I was going to get a good resale value. They're both pretty much the same hardware-wise.

Thanks
Thanks guys, but now I am confused.
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?

It is all subjective by what you mean is 'better'.
Yeah, there are a few out there:
- Motorola Milesone/Droid 4 : Dual 1.2Ghz, PowerVR SGX540, 1GB RAM
- HTC/Tmobile MyTouch 4g Slide: Dual 1.2Ghz, Adreno 220, 768MB RAM
- Samsung Captivate Glide: Dual 1.0Ghz, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM
Are they better than a Desire Z speedwise? Marginally, I don't think most of us will notice the mhz difference especially if we overclock the DesireZ which most roms do to ~1.0Ghz.
If you need more RAM for what you're doing, then it's definitely better. However if you ask which is better development wise? It's just left to the Desire Z and Mytouch4G now.

LadyUK said:
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
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It depends on what you want to use it for.
If it just making phones calls, listening to music, writing e-mail and playing games then the Desire Z will be good enough for you (or alternatively Motorola Milestone 2).
Getting a dual core phone is not essential if you just want to do the above. On this forum, we like our specs. So in our eyes the better the specs, the more impress we are. But if you just want something practical and functional, then the Desire Z will be good enough for you.
As a Desire Z user, I'm happy with my phone and there isn't a phone out there at this point of time that is a worthy successor to it.

LadyUK said:
Thanks guys, but now I am confused.
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
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I agree with the previous poster... I've been using the G2/DZ for a year now and it still runs brilliantly (in part due to the fantastic ROM I'm running, ILWT CM7). I actually just bought the HTC Sensation for a family member. I rooted it and flashed a custom ROM... so I've spent some time with it, and I can say that despite the Sensation's Dual Core 1.2GHz processor, my G2 seemingly runs just as fast and smoothly (my G2 is overclocked just a bit at 1.1GHz). This is to say that I would still recommend this device to someone who was interested in a hard keyboard. It's been the most dependable phone I've owned to date.

I agree with others, had the desire, the desire hd and now i got the z with the weakest cpu. But if you're writing a lot it's very nice, i can write nearly bling with the keyboard meanwhile. I'm using ilwt-rom and it's much faster than the desire hd with sense. But if u got the decision, i'd advice you the galaxy s2 or the galaxy s plus because of amoled and the better batteryperformance. Bought a mugenakku for 30€/45$ and i'm very happy with my phone now. I think i'm gonna use until it won't work anymore. For the dailystuff eg youtube/sms/whatsapp and other stuff it's enough and very fast in my opinion. If you would like to play with your phone you should take the galaxy s2.
All in all it's the perfect phone to me
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

The Desire Z is a great phone! I've had mine about a year and while I was tempted inially when the Sensation came out, the lack of a hw keyboard made me think twice.
DZ has a few limitations, though. It has no front camera, which is not a deal breaker for me but would have been nice.
It has 512 MB RAM. If you're planning to root it and run a custom ROM based on Sense 3.0/3.5 I would recommend another phone with at least 768 MB RAM.
Sense is just too memory-heavy for DZ to run it smoothly and fast. Eventually you will have apps that you want to keep running falling out of memory, maybe soft reboots and hang ups all around.
It does run AOSP based ROMs perfectly well, be it CM, MIUI or other.
I love my DZ and will probably keep it at least until fall running some ICS ROM.
If hw keyboard is important to you it's a no-brainer.

The Desire Z is a great QWERTY entry level phone even if it has old specs. I still have it since it came out. It has great support from the Dev community as well