This or Milestone 2? - G2 and Desire Z General

Hey guys!I'm currently living in Singapore and will be getting a new phone soon.I'm thinking of getting a Desire Z because its physical QWERTY keypad and the new snapdragon processor is really tempting!Just some question,is the bootloader locked?Because if possible,I'm going to put a new ROM.Can ROM Manager be used on it?What are your opinions?Because I'm also thinking about the Milestone 2.So,please help!Thanks!

AsherChua said:
Hey guys!I'm currently living in Singapore and will be getting a new phone soon.I'm thinking of getting a Desire Z because its physical QWERTY keypad and the new snapdragon processor is really tempting!Just some question,is the bootloader locked?Because if possible,I'm going to put a new ROM.Can ROM Manager be used on it?What are your opinions?Because I'm also thinking about the Milestone 2.So,please help!Thanks!
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You can root the Desire Z and install custom ROMs either manually or using ROM manager. Look in the G2 and Desire Z Android Development forum for more info on rooting and custom ROMs. If I had to choose between the Desire Z and the Milestone 2, I would hands-down choose the Desire Z. The Milestone 2 is not even close, in my opinion.

You have any problem with the hinge?And how is browsing and games on it?

The hinge "issue" is totally overblown, don't worry about it. Mine is fine, and I like how the keyboard opens easily. Games and browsing are smooth and a joy.
I haven't played with the Milestone 2 personally. But I've found every recent Motorola device I've laid my hands on to feel disappointingly cheap, and the keyboards very clunky feeling. Light years away from the high build quality of HTC devices.

Most probably will try out a Motorola Milestone 2 first because its cheaper.If I'm not satisfied with it,will be selling it and getting a Desire Z!But I don mind a few more opinions

Oh yeah,how much can I overclock the Milestone 2 to?Do I use setcpu or Milestone overclock?

HTC had built their brand on solid physical keyboards and this does not disappoint at all. The keyboard on this phone is suburb and you don't have to take my word on it, read some reviews online and they all say the same thing. The milestone keyboard was getting warm and cold reactions to it, so your either going to love it or hate it. Other then that, there really isn't any other differences. Both have solid build quality and have some developer support for custom ROMs and such.
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I had teh Milestone 2, the keyboard is so much better on the G2.... plus Milestone 2 had sluggish performance because of motoblurr...

I'm not too worried about motoblur.But the locked bootloader on the Milestone 2 is truly frustrating!

AsherChua said:
Oh yeah,how much can I overclock the Milestone 2 to?Do I use setcpu or Milestone overclock?
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Not sure... It's fairly high but I don't thinks it's as high as 1.9Ghz
(I've managed to get mine up to 2.2Ghz But it's very buggy and freezes after 'bout 10seconds of use.... )

the locked bootloader alone would prevent me from buying it. I have no complaints with this phone. by far the best phone i have ever used.

Same here, Desire Z is by far the best phone ive ever used! Modding is great on it, a friend of mine had the moto droid (milestone) and modding on it was not as great as on the Desire Z.
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Yeah Motorola really sucks to have a locked bootloader...Looks like I'm now leaning more towards the Desire Z!

You should also take into account the amout of dev support the G2 has, it's probably by far the phone with the most dev support since the G1, in my opinion; just tell me how many phones have a pre RC version of CM7 already out, from what I know, not that many.

never used any moto device, but I'll choose Desire Z over MS2 anytime.
There is one minor issue though: DZ's camera really sucks. Everything else is just perfect.
benchmark below was done @ 1.5GHz.

Wait a minute,I thought the Desire Z has 720p video recording?

AsherChua said:
Wait a minute,I thought the Desire Z has 720p video recording?
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yes, it does! but still picture quality is terrible, blurry and grainy. Video recording is ok.

i dont know why people are complaining about the video recording and picture quality. I have no problems. It takes great pics compared to any phone.

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i dont know why people are complaining about the video recording and picture quality. I have no problems. It takes great pics compared to any phone.
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I've sold my Nexus One already so I can't post side by side comparison shots. Below are a few ones take by Nexus One built-in camera app, untouched at all, click and zoom to see full resolution size.
Desire Z camera is nowhere nearly as good as Nexus One.
I realize that this is just a phone, not a camera. But coming from Nexus One which is also by htc, I am very disappointed at the picture quality of Desire Z.

Well I don really take pictures as much so that may not be too big a problem.What I really want is ability to play high end games and developers support!

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legend worth it to skip desire?

asking few questions to legend owner.
between legend and desire, i'm leaning towards legend because of its design.
but snapdragon on desire sounds very tempting...
what do you say legend users? do you experience any lag because of lack of cpu or ram compare to desire?
The desire is more powerful but don't forget that its screen has a higher resolution, in other words it needs more power...
Why I've chosen the legend over the desire?
- First of all the legend has a much better finish than the desire, that looks too "nerd" for me. It looks more like a small computer than a cell phone..
- The legend is very smooth and do not really need more power
-The legend can almost do everything the desire can do but with a better pocket size.
- With a 3,2 screen instead of 3,7 screen, and a worse processor, it think the battery is better.
However, you should take the desire if:
- You really want to watch videos on your device
- You like playing a lot with your device because i think that games are going to require more and more config to run...
Look at the price for both desire & legend, its nearly the same: there is no best phone between them...
=> The legend has one of the best design for a smartphone
=> The desire is the more powerful
Allow me to offer a few pointers. I've got both devices. Desire for myself and the Legend for my wife.
Performance-wise, there's no doubt the Desire edges out the Legend. But the Legend is not 40% slower as the CPU clockspeeds may suggest. You'll encounter the occasional hiccup with the Legend when compared to the Desire, but you probably won't notice it unless you have both devices like I do. I would call this round a draw.
Aesthetically, it's very subjective. When you pull your Legend out, people will be drawn to the aluminum unibody enclosure. When you pull your Desire out, people will be drawn to the large 3.7" screen. I think the Legend looks nicer, but the Desire is in no way "geeky". It looks better in real life than on photos/videos. I'd describe it as more sophisticated looking while the Legend is more sexy.
Surely, you've read/seen reviews of both. See here for my review on the Desire and here for my review on the Legend. I tried to only put down things that were not mentioned or covered extensively by others. And I mentioned a couple of differences that may or may not matter to you.
Personally, I think it comes down to your screen/device size preference.
every time I pull out my legend I always get asked about it. it stands out from the crowd especially being in a country where you cannot buy it in store.
as for lag on the legend, it gets a little bit of lag if you quickly switch between lots of applications but other than that its fine
also if lag is a problem then disabling HTC sense is always an option but then you are limited to 3 home screens
it is a very good looking device tho.
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just thought is ask is any one else's home button feel loose like the actual button is on the far left of the key ?
I think mine might be broken but I don't want to send it back to the UK and it still works ok was just curious
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big help from all of you guys......love the look of legend and i think i will go with legend instead of desire unless htc decides to make a legend looking phone with snapdragon processor
i think you will be very happy with it , especially once it is rooted and we can save apps to the sdcard :
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Everytime I pull out my Legend in public I get a fine for indecent exposure. But that's for a different forum.
I love my Desire both how it looks and how it performs. Just needs a better battery to really make it the best phone period.
I haven't touched the Desire, so I can only write about the Legend.
In my own opinion:
The Legend looks GREAT, ATTRACTIVE & CLEAN design, & feels SOLID. I get so much compliments about the phone, even old folks, who don't care about phones, think the my phone is very nice looking.
However, the sharp edge on top of the earpiece sometimes hurts my ear.
It performs very well & smooth.
I use the phone MAINLY for calls & text messages. & I don't play & care for games on the phone. Therefore, the Legend's SIZE is PERFECT for me.
The phone has GREAT audio quality, which is nice & clear, & has good battery life.
I read somewhere that says because of the Legend's aluminum case, it doesn't get excellent signal. However, the reception has not let me down yet.
I'm also using HTC Touch Diamond 2, & HTC HD. My house has really bad signal & I have NO PROBLEMS with the Legend, whereas the other 2 get drop calls constantly.
It has 4 plastic buttons that feel REALLY CHEAP. You'll be disappointed with these buttons.
It has some other Cons, but you'll get that with the Desire too, so I won't go there.
I think you should also go to the Desire's board & ask what they like & dislike about the Desire & then make your own decision.
For now, I'm keeping the Legend until I can find a phone suitable for my need.
Cheers,
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yeah the only real problem with it are the cheap feeling buttons which is a shame but the rest is of a very high quality
legend or desire
i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.
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i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.
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Agreed, traded my nexus for the Legend.
It's a bit slower but nothing that ruins the Android experience.It's till very quick.
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i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.
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nexus one being almost identical to desire, every piece of info helps! thanks
... and something important too: Nexus one is due to be the "first in class" android, so is the most expensive one. Desire is cheaper than Nexus one to avoid confusions in the market. Legend need to be cheaper than Desire due to processor speed. I believe Legend would be more expensive if Nexus and Desire would not be available in the market. So, Legend has a competitive price with an excellent hardware and software configuration.
no doubt you are right. Best device I ever had
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week with legend
I been using Legend just about a week.. first phone ever that don't make any kind of hardware sound.. almost every phone that I had and tested even with HD2.. make those hardware movement noise.. this phone is rock solid.. by the look and design.. it's phone, fit in ur hand perfect.. one of the best sound quality phone that I had.. HTC sense and Android.. sense work great.. since this is my first android phone.. I can't tell much about it..I used my bro's Hero about a week. Legend is much faster.. here in US.. 3G service don't work.. but even with Edge,, it's much faster and smoother internet experience than any other phone that I had or tested.. only thing that I don't like about the hardware is the 4button key.. I wish HTC made this with capacitive touch key like the Nexus one or touch HD..
buy the Legend.. it's cheaper than Desire.. also more phone factor than Desire..
if u need super PDA+ huge phone.. buy the Desire..
LOL.. just buy either one.. u'll like it anyhow..
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asking few questions to legend owner.
between legend and desire, i'm leaning towards legend because of its design.
but snapdragon on desire sounds very tempting...
what do you say legend users? do you experience any lag because of lack of cpu or ram compare to desire?
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I have used google nexus one and legend (I dumped the nexus one in favour of the legend).
i challenge anyone to say there is a difference in speed
the 7227 is a much improved cpu over the hero/touch pro 2/diamond 2 one etc.
its not just the speed.
I think the cpu is a side issue
the real difference between these two is just the screen resolution.
my 2 cents:
1. most android apps just scale up, so actually look worse on 800x480 (no doubt will get better)
2. you can't actually browse at 800x480 on such a small screen, so its benefit is mostly in smoothing
3. 480x320 video will be smoother. very little the human will gain over 800x480 at this size and 320x480 video files will be smaller.
4. 800x480 screeen uses slightly more battery
5. lower resolutions are here to stay, e.g. HTC Tatto, Sony X10 Mini, etc. only have 240x320 !!!
In summary, whilst 800x480 would be theoretically nicer to have, it makes no difference to me at the moment. the biggest thing I wanted was amoled, which I have got.
You will LOVE the Legend. Its a keeper.
I've got the Legend, because my X10 got swiped.
(Risking OT Compared to the X10, the Legend is much smoother.
However, for me, I may consider the Desire strongly, but simply because I am using a Mac and that the WiFi teether on the Desire makes things a snap for me, especially when I am out of the office.
But otherwise, I do agree that the Legend is a keeper... maybe I'll hand it over to the wife, or to one of my kids.
legend looks super awesome in comparison to the staid desire ..
i want to thank everyone on the great informative reply. i just ordered mine at htcperida can't wait to play with this bad boy!! once again, thanks a lot everyone!!!!

[DISCUSSION] Choice between Galaxy S or HTC Desire Z

Hey guys,
I am torn between these 2 phones. Which one should I get, HTC Desire Z or Samsung Galaxy S?
In terms of future updates (Gingerbread or Honeycomb if there is), which one is more likely to be updated?
In terms of web browsing, is Galaxy S with stock froyo good enough to be compared to HTC Desire Z?
Need your guys inputs for battery life too.
Thanks and really appreciate any response.
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Hey guys,
I am torn between these 2 phones. Which one should I get, HTC Desire Z or Samsung Galaxy S?
In terms of future updates (Gingerbread or Honeycomb if there is), which one is more likely to be updated?
In terms of web browsing, is Galaxy S with stock froyo good enough to be compared to HTC Desire Z?
Need your guys inputs for battery life too.
Thanks and really appreciate any response.
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Do you email, text, tweet and IM a lot? Enough to justify a hardware keyboard?
Get the Z.
For web browsing alone, the Galaxy S will probably be better with it's larger and AMOLED screen.
Regarding future updates, I'd go for the Z. At least HTC update their flagship phones (the Z is not, but the Galaxy S has still not been updated).
I don't know anything about the batteries.
Hope I helped you bro.
Certainly bro, thanks!
The speed of the web browsing as compared to Galaxy S (froyo stock), which one is faster?
bryant_16 said:
Certainly bro, thanks!
The speed of the web browsing as compared to Galaxy S (froyo stock), which one is faster?
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Don't know, have neither phone
Although I think they'd be about the same. And whichever phone has the faster CPU would probably render the pages faster.
Why not visit a phone shop and test both out. Just say to someone (who works there) that you don't know which phone to pick, and would like to test them side by side.
And be sure to ask them to put a SIM in.
"WHY WON'T IT LOAD ANY PAGES!!?!"
I see. Thanks for the inputs. Is the multi-touch resolved for the HTC Desire Z?
And also, one thing that is bothering me is the hinge. Is it that bad?
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I see. Thanks for the inputs. Is the multi-touch resolved for the HTC Desire Z?
And also, one thing that is bothering me is the hinge. Is it that bad?
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I think the hinge just depends on the individual phone. Some people get a stiff (and therefore better) hinge than others. Otherwise, if you get a looser hinge, it *should* only affect you if you lie down or use the phone upside down. Or tweet on a rollercoaster.
I'm going to try and find a shop with a Z to play with it before it is purchased, so if you want, when I come back I'll tell you about the multitouch. Although it'd be better for me if I could install Multi-Touch Visualiser or something on it..
Yeah sure, let me know if the multi-touch is fixed for this phone.
Seems like the hinge is only happening to certain users.
Remind me, what was the multi touch problem?
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The z is a better phone by far its built better, its sexier , it can be over clocked to up to 1.9 gigahertz!! And the keyboard feels great and the hinge is pretty stable. And sense is amazing too. the galaxy is an okay phone its got a big screen and its really bright but the amoled makes the colors look off a bit but its still nice but that's not enough to convince me to buy it. Plus htc just makes the best smartphones. Oh and the z has an fm radio
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And I think it comes with 2.2 wich has flash and that makes for amazing web browsing. I think the samsung has only 2.1 I don't think that has flash. But you could always just get skyfire
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The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
Ah cool. How could i look for that on a stock z? Browser?
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Yeah, you can try that on a browser or picture.
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The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
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Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, could you explain please ? Then I could tell you what the results is on the DZ. Though as I understand it the DZ has full multi-touch, unlike, say, the Desire.
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Remind me, what was the multi touch problem?
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Am not aware of any multi touch issues but the z has true multi touch, it can register up to 4 points at any given time meaning it's also great for gaming. It took me a while to finally purchase the z after hearing alot of discontentments about the sheer weight of the phone and the hinge. I thought that nothing could beat the n1 but after only a couple of me time with my new z, I knew that I'd made the right choice, it has alot to offer and now that permanent root has been obtained it's only gonna be a matter of time before more custom roms are available, we already have cyanogen, evil, paul and villainrom on board.
I'd say the z/g2.
z and hd has true multitouch.
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The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
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This is not desire z or galaxy s specific. This was a big problem on the n1.
Cool~~ what's holding me back from buying desire z is the hinge man!
I don't know how bad is the hinge.
Is the processor speed of 800mhz different from the HTC Desire snapdragon of 1ghz?
Because currently I'm using HTC Desire.
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Cool~~ what's holding me back from buying desire z is the hinge man!
I don't know how bad is the hinge.
Is the processor speed of 800mhz different from the HTC Desire snapdragon of 1ghz?
Because currently I'm using HTC Desire.
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What I've heard about were the potential damage to the hinge and not damaged hinges. The new processor is indeed a 2nd generation snapdragon. I did a comparison against my n1 both running at 1ghz. You'd be pleased to know that the z blew the n1 out of the water on linpack and quadrant tests.
How's the GPU in HTC Desire Z as compared to Galaxy S?

so far....would you change your desire HD for a motorola Atrix?

hello comunity, a friend of mine is insisting in changing me his atrix for my desire hd... my phone is in perfect conditions, i am very happy with my phone because it a great support, and the big screen is something i love, i like how it takes the pictures, and my battery life has been ending from the morning to the night with 20% left...
the plus of the atrix is that it has FFC, its dual core, QHD screen, fingerprint unlocker, and bigger battery, but it has a smaller screen, and the UI is so ugly, i dont know hows the camera, and how it performs with the games...
so what do you thin guys... is it a good deal or should i keep my DHD?
in case of UI, that is not a problem. you can always install a custom AOSP rom or a second launcher and modify your system to your wish. Small screen is only concern. I wouldn't change my DHD for anything with smaller screen. Actually only phone I would be able to change my DHD for is Samsung Galaxy Note, which I'm getting in January
But in performance do you guys think atrix is better than DHD..? Maybe with ics coming? And what about camera?
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Heard the atrix has okay specs, but I love my inspire/dhd. love it so much I got 2, the inspire and a euro DHD w/ a dead TS . Like that I have more ram then the atrix and looove the solid build that HTC does. If they made this phone a duel core, shot in 1080p, bumbed the 8mpx to atleast 10-12mpx, changed the lcd screen to something more crisp and kills apples retna display then I'd be even more happier and never change this phone
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Motorola? NEVER!
I have both of these phones. I gotta say, the atrix is a better phone. It has way more power, battery lasts me two days using Homebase rom and I love the lapdock. Fingerprint scanner is also awesome. Games like Shadowgun run perfect on it. DHD has a way bigger developing community though and I do like sense. I currently am using runnydroid on my dhd and can barely make a day on the battery. I did just calibrate it last night though, so we'll see how today goes.
Atrix also has the option for a docking station.
I know it sounds a bit mad but for business users this could be a great advantage.
I can get my Windows work desktop to appear on the DHD but if only there was a way to hook up and external monitor and use a bluetooth kb and mouse. I could then ditch all other devices and only have my DHD for everything.
I think the DHD is perfect other than this (battery capacity maybe too) .
no still loving my DHD until 4 core processor release...
maybe i would, given its amazing battery life and the HD dock... pretty neat features. The quality of the phone is also superb. Motorola makes the most solid phones( hardly surprising given its expertise).
BUT BUT BUT.
their after-sales support fails, outside of the USA. ( if you want to keep it stock ROM,unrooted )
and despite grand claims by nvidia, tegra 2 kinda sucks. No neon instruction support and guess what, MOST HD mp4 videos cant be played(some 480p videos too) unless you re-encode the video/use rock player(may be choppy).
Pretty irritating for me given that i love watching videos.
Well I have just gone the other way Atrix back to DHD.
For music with poweramp Atrix is a fab machine beats the DHD.
Battery life too.
Screen looks better on DHD & it's batter to use.
The Atrix is over rated & the software is kak. Not that many Roms out there either.
I'd avoid the Atrix, or any Motokak handset.
It's your choice but I had Atrix for 3 months & got shut & glad I did so
Don't even mention MOTOROLA. I had the worst experience with motorola services. I own a motorola defy and it's been an year since motorola announced FROYO for my eu phone but it's been more than a year and they are still rolling out. I highly doubt if they're even working on it now but it never came...
And why atrix? you've got droid bionic, you've got RAZR so why atrix....but don't even consider buying motorola. You'll have to survive on custom roms...
I like my DHD, and i don't want motorola
Just ask yourself a question: if Atrix is better than DHD, then why does your friend insist in the exchange?
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[Q] Its upgrade time! Help me decide...

Due for an upgrade - been holding out for the HTC Desire Z as I love my keyboard, but have been offered the HTC Desire S.
I want some feedback in helping me decide...
Do you have a Desire Z? Is it aw awesome as it looks?
If you had the same choice, which would you choose?
Right now, neither.
i am using the desire z as my main phone now and it is a very good phone. the hardware keyboard is working fine and the hinge problem isn't such a problem as everybody says.
But...
if i would buy a new phone now it wouldn't be a desire z or a desire s. i would go for a phone with more power like the SG II. Don't get me wrong, the desire z is a awesome phone, but it lacks at raw power nowadays.
hope it helped
dz is kinda dying... people (talking about me) buy dz and overclock it, becausse its getting kinda slow (relatively to other phones)
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Get something with at least 1.5ghz+ to see something with moderate improvement over the DZ/DS. The era of ~1GHz phones is going to get phased out eventually when the devs are moving on to what is hot.
In Jan 2012 right now, that'd be the HTC/Tmobile Amaze, SGS2, Or the Optimus 4G, but dev support for that is limited.
I wouldn't pick either Desire Z or Desire S unless I knew I was going to get a good resale value. They're both pretty much the same hardware-wise.
Thanks
Thanks guys, but now I am confused.
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
It is all subjective by what you mean is 'better'.
Yeah, there are a few out there:
- Motorola Milesone/Droid 4 : Dual 1.2Ghz, PowerVR SGX540, 1GB RAM
- HTC/Tmobile MyTouch 4g Slide: Dual 1.2Ghz, Adreno 220, 768MB RAM
- Samsung Captivate Glide: Dual 1.0Ghz, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM
Are they better than a Desire Z speedwise? Marginally, I don't think most of us will notice the mhz difference especially if we overclock the DesireZ which most roms do to ~1.0Ghz.
If you need more RAM for what you're doing, then it's definitely better. However if you ask which is better development wise? It's just left to the Desire Z and Mytouch4G now.
LadyUK said:
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
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It depends on what you want to use it for.
If it just making phones calls, listening to music, writing e-mail and playing games then the Desire Z will be good enough for you (or alternatively Motorola Milestone 2).
Getting a dual core phone is not essential if you just want to do the above. On this forum, we like our specs. So in our eyes the better the specs, the more impress we are. But if you just want something practical and functional, then the Desire Z will be good enough for you.
As a Desire Z user, I'm happy with my phone and there isn't a phone out there at this point of time that is a worthy successor to it.
LadyUK said:
Thanks guys, but now I am confused.
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
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I agree with the previous poster... I've been using the G2/DZ for a year now and it still runs brilliantly (in part due to the fantastic ROM I'm running, ILWT CM7). I actually just bought the HTC Sensation for a family member. I rooted it and flashed a custom ROM... so I've spent some time with it, and I can say that despite the Sensation's Dual Core 1.2GHz processor, my G2 seemingly runs just as fast and smoothly (my G2 is overclocked just a bit at 1.1GHz). This is to say that I would still recommend this device to someone who was interested in a hard keyboard. It's been the most dependable phone I've owned to date.
I agree with others, had the desire, the desire hd and now i got the z with the weakest cpu. But if you're writing a lot it's very nice, i can write nearly bling with the keyboard meanwhile. I'm using ilwt-rom and it's much faster than the desire hd with sense. But if u got the decision, i'd advice you the galaxy s2 or the galaxy s plus because of amoled and the better batteryperformance. Bought a mugenakku for 30€/45$ and i'm very happy with my phone now. I think i'm gonna use until it won't work anymore. For the dailystuff eg youtube/sms/whatsapp and other stuff it's enough and very fast in my opinion. If you would like to play with your phone you should take the galaxy s2.
All in all it's the perfect phone to me
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The Desire Z is a great phone! I've had mine about a year and while I was tempted inially when the Sensation came out, the lack of a hw keyboard made me think twice.
DZ has a few limitations, though. It has no front camera, which is not a deal breaker for me but would have been nice.
It has 512 MB RAM. If you're planning to root it and run a custom ROM based on Sense 3.0/3.5 I would recommend another phone with at least 768 MB RAM.
Sense is just too memory-heavy for DZ to run it smoothly and fast. Eventually you will have apps that you want to keep running falling out of memory, maybe soft reboots and hang ups all around.
It does run AOSP based ROMs perfectly well, be it CM, MIUI or other.
I love my DZ and will probably keep it at least until fall running some ICS ROM.
If hw keyboard is important to you it's a no-brainer.
The Desire Z is a great QWERTY entry level phone even if it has old specs. I still have it since it came out. It has great support from the Dev community as well

[Q] Just a random question: Switch to Galaxy S3 or One X?

hi guys, ive been on my HTC Desire Z for almost a year. since 21-07-11 to be exactly, after a lot of stressing to root this thing( it was my first time) what took me about 4 days, and a lot of new roms, and flashing, im starting to look for another phone. I prefer the Samsung Galaxy S3 over the HTC, because its a little faster, has a MENU button, and isn't rebooting when you are running all apps( happend to me when i was testing the HTC) The HTC becomes laggy if you run all apps at the same time even without live wallpaper. The S3 can run smootly if you run all apps at the same time, even with a live wallpaper.
But what do you guys think? Do you prefer the HTC one X or de S3?
For me none of those phones have a physical keyboard, which is a problem for me. I'd go with HTC though, cause I have relatives who've had random problems with the Samsung S2. We've had to exchange the phone twice. Once cause it didn't want to charge, and another time the phone wouldn't turn on. I'd consider HTC to be the better quality manufacturer.
Also my G2 is the result of two broken G2's I found on Ebay for cheap, which resulted in one working G2. These phones very resilient, considering one phone was ran over by a car and the other was water damaged. I'm holding off until my contract ends, in which I now have a bargaining chip against T-Mobile.
Samsung is much easier to root compared to HTC usually. HTC usually has much better community support then Samsung, but I think it's nearly equal nowadays. Don't know what problems you have with your G2, but I haven't found myself wanting a new phone yet. Haven't found a situation where the phone slows down, especially if you overclock the phone. The only time the G2 would be slow is if you're using ICS roms. Once the Desire HD gets ICS, the speed for ICS on G2 should dramatically improve.
After countless hours of reading articles, opinions and spec sheets I'm opting for the S3. The only drawback I see is the lack of physical keyboard. The S3 out performs the HOX in almost every aspect. Although....my contract isn't up till January so maybe there will be other contenders by then.....
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I can't stand Samsung's build quality, so I would vote for HTC One X.
Samsung devices are all plasticky and cheap-ish in quality (my sister has an S2, my uncle has an S, and oh golly I hate using them).
Also, TouchWiz is the ugliest thing ever. Sense (4.0 especially) is beautiful and IMO adds a lot of needed tools (maybe it's just me being used to it).
Anyway, try them both for a while if you can and then decide on which one to buy. Read reviews and search YouTube for videos of both and see how they perform in different conditions.
That's how I ended up with my Desire Z. Cheers!
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Also, TouchWiz is the ugliest thing ever. Sense (4.0 especially) is beautiful and IMO adds a lot of needed tools (maybe it's just me being used to it).
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Sense? TouchWiz? Oh yeah, those are things like motoblur that I get rid of the first day lol
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HTC sense is using way too much memory, thats why my is desire z is so slow, ICS is the fastest version of android for me, i lags but not as much as android 2.3.X with htc sense 2.1 - 3.5, i can even normally play dead space
I think go get the S3.
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I'm going to be getting my new One X in the next few days. I chose the One X over the SIII for a few different reasons:
1) The One X is much cheaper on contract here in Australia.
2) The One X has much much much better build quality than the SIII. I saw a bunch of drop test videos for the SIII and it seemed to break as easily if not easier than an iphone, which is just shocking for a flagship. I even saw this post in the One X forums where someone dropped their One X out of a window from a first storey building and it survived with just a scuff on the back!
3) I think the One X actually looks like a proper flagship phone. I'm still not impressed with how the SIII looks and feels.
4) I personally prefer Sense to Touchwiz.
5) I don't have any use for the many gimmicky features that touchwiz offers.
When i get my One X, i'm going to post a full review with initial impressions, which i will then update after using it for a few weeks. I will also compare it to my experience with my Desire Z.
Actually, i don't mean to take over the thread here, but is there anything specific that anyone would like me to include in my review about the transition from the Desire Z to the One X? I wanna give back as much useful feedback as possible, so let me know what you guys want to know for when i post my review. You guys can pm me about this so that this thread doesn't get clogged up.
I came from a desire z to the one x, miss the keyboard but the speed improvement is great and the bigger screen is a blast.
Can't go wrong with either though, s3 is a beast as well
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What do you guys think about the LG P880 Optimus 4x HD ?
Did you guys forget about the Wi-Fi thing with the HTC One X? About it being a manufacturing problem which should have been corrected by now but its nice to keep it in mind if you're gonna get a One X
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I'm going to be getting my new One X in the next few days. I chose the One X over the SIII for a few different reasons:
1) The One X is much cheaper on contract here in Australia.
2) The One X has much much much better build quality than the SIII. I saw a bunch of drop test videos for the SIII and it seemed to break as easily if not easier than an iphone, which is just shocking for a flagship. I even saw this post in the One X forums where someone dropped their One X out of a window from a first storey building and it survived with just a scuff on the back!
3) I think the One X actually looks like a proper flagship phone. I'm still not impressed with how the SIII looks and feels.
4) I personally prefer Sense to Touchwiz.
5) I don't have any use for the many gimmicky features that touchwiz offers.
When i get my One X, i'm going to post a full review with initial impressions, which i will then update after using it for a few weeks. I will also compare it to my experience with my Desire Z.
Actually, i don't mean to take over the thread here, but is there anything specific that anyone would like me to include in my review about the transition from the Desire Z to the One X? I wanna give back as much useful feedback as possible, so let me know what you guys want to know for when i post my review. You guys can pm me about this so that this thread doesn't get clogged up.
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I would be very keen to hear your review. Any reason why youre going with the one x over the one xl with Telstra?
Personally when my contract is up in October I will be going with the one xl with Telstra as the 4g speeds are so fast, i tested one down at my local telstra shop and was very impressive. Also I'm currently using my desire z on the optus network and I'm just over optus's crappy 3G speeds, it hangs too much.
if you want to play games better, get one x. lots of games has nvidia support right now and the graphics difference on games with tegra support are really big between s3 and one x.
if you dont want to play games, get one x anyway.
magic_android said:
I'm going to be getting my new One X in the next few days. I chose the One X over the SIII for a few different reasons:
1) The One X is much cheaper on contract here in Australia.
2) The One X has much much much better build quality than the SIII. I saw a bunch of drop test videos for the SIII and it seemed to break as easily if not easier than an iphone, which is just shocking for a flagship. I even saw this post in the One X forums where someone dropped their One X out of a window from a first storey building and it survived with just a scuff on the back!
3) I think the One X actually looks like a proper flagship phone. I'm still not impressed with how the SIII looks and feels.
4) I personally prefer Sense to Touchwiz.
5) I don't have any use for the many gimmicky features that touchwiz offers.
When i get my One X, i'm going to post a full review with initial impressions, which i will then update after using it for a few weeks. I will also compare it to my experience with my Desire Z.
Actually, i don't mean to take over the thread here, but is there anything specific that anyone would like me to include in my review about the transition from the Desire Z to the One X? I wanna give back as much useful feedback as possible, so let me know what you guys want to know for when i post my review. You guys can pm me about this so that this thread doesn't get clogged up.
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1 im not going to buy this with an contract
2 the S3 is better than a iphone in drop tests, thats what i want
3 while testing, i could still experience some lag, and i dont like sense, uses way to much memory
4 and i want to try another launcher
5 the S3 offers an removable battery and a SD card slot, those are the main reason i dont want a one x
btrst said:
if you want to play games better, get one x. lots of games has nvidia support right now and the graphics difference on games with tegra support are really big between s3 and one x.
if you dont want to play games, get one x anyway.
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i still want the S3 because the processor is still a little bit better
Hey, and what about Galaxy Nexus? Maybe hardware is not as good as in GS3 or OneX but think about software updates.
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Hey, and what about Galaxy Nexus? Maybe hardware is not as good as in GS3 or OneX but think about software updates.
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galaxy nexus doesn't have a menu button
jessv3 said:
I would be very keen to hear your review. Any reason why youre going with the one x over the one xl with Telstra?
Personally when my contract is up in October I will be going with the one xl with Telstra as the 4g speeds are so fast, i tested one down at my local telstra shop and was very impressive. Also I'm currently using my desire z on the optus network and I'm just over optus's crappy 3G speeds, it hangs too much.
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I would love to get the xl but for me, it's too expensive. Telstra's idea of a "small" plan isn't exactly small for all people haha. I did try and win the One XL in a couple of competitions though haha, needless to say, I didn't win xD. I was also very impressed when I first tested telstra's 4g speeds at one of their stores. On an HTC Velocity 4g, i saw 3mb/s download speeds :O.
For me though, the issues that others have with the One X don't really bother me. I'm not fussed about using a micro sim, or having a non-user replaceable battery and no expandable storage. Also, development is already massively active for the One X and as such, if Sense doesn't work out for me, then i can just use Slim ICS or one of the many CM9/AOKP ROMs.
The main reason that i'm choosing the One X over the SIII is the build quality though. I dislike using cases and to me, the SIII feels far to flimsy. Otherwise, the SIII is a very admirable phone which I wouldn't hesitate to recommend. That's my own opinion though.
So yeah, keep an eye out for my review of the One X that i will post and then update in the following weeks.
One X
If you have the option of holding both devices in your hands, you will probably like the look and feel of X much better.
Please note that both X and SIII have different revisions (Hardware, cpu)
You might want to check which one is available in your area.
Unless you want to root your SIII, touchwiz will be a torture for most sense users.
Sense 4 is lightweight and is running on monster hardware.
so +1 for X
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galaxy nexus doesn't have a menu button
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AOKP.

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