[Q] 'Original' Desire vs. Desire Z - G2 and Desire Z General

Hi guys,
I'm about to choose a new phone and the Desire Z seems like a good option for me. I'm also considering the original Desire. The Desire HD is too big for me, so this phone isn't an option.
I know the Z has faster hardware, but is the Z really noticeable faster in everyday use? Gaming isn't important to me, because I rarely do it. And does the original Desire also get the Gingerbread update? Thank in advance
Greetz!

Yes the Desire Z is much faster (especially overclocked).
Not sure if the Desire will be able to get Gingerbread, but I doubt it.

Smartphone technology evolves quickly. Don't buy outdated phones unless you are on a budget.

Pickx is absolutely right:
never buy an outdated phone, otherwise I'd be recommending the HD2
The Desire Z is currently the latest and newest android phone, it has the most up-to-date SoC (system on chip), and the latest HTC Sense software.
PS: As a plus, it also has a hardware QWERTY keyboard
So... why would you ever consider picking the "old" Desire if you can get the new one ??

Well, the original Desire is more pocket friendly and I´m not entirely sure I need a hardware keyboard

Dakota85 said:
Well, the original Desire is more pocket friendly and I´m not entirely sure I need a hardware keyboard
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
obviously it is more pocket friendly because it doesn't have a keyboard
it depends on your needs
I can't live without a keyboard

Dakota85 said:
Well, the original Desire is more pocket friendly and I´m not entirely sure I need a hardware keyboard
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm with you on this, in exactly the same position! Have you had any more thoughts on this?
I am considering the Desire Z for the improved spec but am also considerinig the Galaxy S (purely for the better sound and the fact I don't need a keyboard).
Incidentally, just how usable IS the DZ keyboard? Is it really worth having?

Get a real Desire HD, slip it in your pocket (or where ever you store your phone) then decide if its too big or not. It has an extremely slim profile for the amount of phone you get.
I thought the same about the HD, but it really is not that big. Its on the verge of being too big, i.e the Dell Streak has 0.7" more screen and is not really a pocket friendly device.

xspyda said:
Incidentally, just how usable IS the DZ keyboard? Is it really worth having?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's very nice, best keyboard I've used on a phone so far personally. Keyboard is a must-have item for me though, if you know you definitely won't use it..well it does add a bit of bulk but not as much as you'd think. It's about 2mm thicker than the Desire and D HD and about 15-20g heavier.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA App

Thanks xerawx - that's good to know but I am still a little undecided. That said, I am tempted to buy and if I am not happy with it I cam return. Seems the best way to me

xspyda said:
Incidentally, just how usable IS the DZ keyboard? Is it really worth having?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I found the DZ keyboard too big for my hands. I have average sized hands, but found that I had to stretch from the normal holding position to reach the middle keys. I ended up just using the on-screen keyboard after a few hours as it was much quicker than the hardware keyboard.
With that in mind, coupled with the loose hinge, I returned the DZ for a refund. What is the point in lugging round a 180g phone which is pretty brick like if I'm never going to use the hardware keyboard?
Now I'm back with my HD2 running Android until I can find something else that I like.
I grudge paying £350ish for a Desire when its a 6 month old phone... and I'm not really wanting a Desire HD as its bigger (fractionally) than my HD2 - which I already think is too big!
Every HTC phone thats been reviewed lately has been critisized for its speakeer and camera... is it time to change manufacturer? I've had 3 HTC's in a row and been happy with them all.

Related

Legend to Desire

Hey all !
i was wondering about selling my legend and buy the htc desire ?
but i thought the htc desire looked pretty big.. ?
but is this a good replacement ?
The desire has better specs but a little lower build quality.
I'd say over all its a great replacement though
On a side note, how much would you be selling your legend for? I'm looking to grab one if its the canadian version
I'm from Faroe Islands (check google or something if you want to know more about it)
im not sure how i could send it to you from here.. :S
and.. i know that the specs are better on the htc desire, but i was thinking about the size.. for me the htc desire looks pretty big, but am i wrong ?
TheTmac said:
and.. i know that the specs are better on the htc desire, but i was thinking about the size.. for me the htc desire looks pretty big, but am i wrong ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The best comparison I could find is here http://www.omio.com/phones/compare/htc_desire+htc_legend
It seems the desire is just a few millimeters bigger length and width wise, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
How much are you looking at selling it for? As for the islands your at, I'm really not sure how it would work anyways, international mail or something maybe?
kylecore said:
The best comparison I could find is here http://www.omio.com/phones/compare/htc_desire+htc_legend
It seems the desire is just a few millimeters bigger length and width wise, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
How much are you looking at selling it for? As for the islands your at, I'm really not sure how it would work anyways, international mail or something maybe?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my mail is [email protected]
Haha I didn't mean your email I meant to send would have to be through international mail
ooh, loool XD
I know this isn't what you asked but...
Have you considered the Nexus One rather than the desire? Same spec but the N1 runs froyo...
On paper the desire/N1 is faster, in reality the gap, as far as I can tell in my research is non existent (although I have heard claims that the legend is much faster due to lower res screen). The legend has less memory however and therefore could run fewer apps at the same time? This has never been a problem for me personally.
Build quality of course is a big change, the N1/Desire feel quite sturdy but the Legend is made of frikkin metal.
TheTmac said:
ooh, loool XD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just an update, legend should get froyo
BUT
flash 10.1 most likely wont run due to the phones processor, it is not capable of running it, as of now anyways...
however, i'm sure after some time flash may get officially released or the modding community may try and do something about it but thats not something to rely on
desire is actually a reallllly good phone, i say sell the legend and get it!
The legend is hot to look at but like most phones it will get damaged. I had an HTC Hero and using a Desire is great for the bug screen and browsing. That extra half inch has made a good mobile experience great! Gaming wise you probably won't notice a big deal due to the higher resolution. Neocore demo actually was on par and sometimes better than my Desire. The only thing would be the number of apps you could have running at once. Build wise I think the Desire is great, mine is anyway though being machine out of a single block of aluminium certainly gives it a feeling of solidity.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
i actually just found out that you can use the htc evo flash 10.1 on the legend running froyo with a small work around and it apparently works near flawlessly so it should take much for a full unhacked version to become released. if not the hack version will do just fine
I have one question about the Nexus One..
if i want trackball light on it, do i need to take in half, and install a LED to it, or is this already done ? so i only need boot the phone to get custom LEDs ?
TheTmac said:
I have one question about the Nexus One..
if i want trackball light on it, do i need to take in half, and install a LED to it, or is this already done ? so i only need boot the phone to get custom LEDs ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not to sure about this, you may want to check out the nexus one forums.
for the price of a nexus one there are many other phones that can and will do a better job.
kylecore said:
not to sure about this, you may want to check out the nexus one forums.
for the price of a nexus one there are many other phones that can and will do a better job.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
like which phones ?
anything without a trackball, my curve 8330 has a trackball and it always gets stuck. go with a trackpad or nothing.
the new evo is nice along the the droid x, also the htc incredible is amazing.
maybe even the samsung galaxy s?
there are tons of phones out there that are equal if not better then the nexus, just do a little research for what you like best
i'm still probably going to grab a legend either way though

[DISCUSSION] Trying to decide between Desire Z and Desire (not HD)

I am looking to ditch Symbian and have decided that Android is the way to go (despite the downfalls along the lines of camera and sound quality).
It might seem a no brainer but I am not sure I have use for the qwerty offered by the Desire. That said, I like the latest and greatest but I am trying to convince myself that the Desire Z with its extra bulk is worth the extra if I am not going to use the qwerty much.
I might find that I grow to like the keyboard on the other hand (which is what I am hoping as I have almost convinced myself to go with the Z).
Any arguments for forgetting the Desire entirely?
If you hold back i will have both devices here once my Z arrives.....my gf has just got a desire and i wasnt sure if she would be ok with the s/w keyboard....its not too bad actully but i still prefer hardware qwerty keyboards.
Watch this space.
before owning the a desire i had a nokia e71 and i gotta say the keyboard on it was amazing. After realizing the desire z is getting released soon I decided to sell my desire. I just never got used to using a touch keyboard after using one with real hardware keys. I'd say go for the desire z if having a hardware keyboard is your thing. But otherwise the desire is pretty decent and I was extremely satisfied with it except for the fact it didn't have a keyboard.
IMO the display should not be obtruded by the input (even not my own fingers)
I use the web intensively from my phone (news, blogs, mil, etc)
so I can't imagine using internet without a keyboard
I'm using the X10 now and I've made my best to adapt, but I really miss the keyboard
Again, just IMO, but a physical keyboard makes me more productive
Well, I was holding out for the Desire Z, but needed to get a new phone, as I couldn't live with my old phone anymore. So, I got a San Francisco (SF) on Orange PAYG (it's a rebranded zte blade). Anyway, I didn't think that I would get on without a hardware keyboard, as I moved away from a touch pro 2...
Anyway, installed swype on the SF, and really getting on quite well with it. It's not as bad as I thought it would be to live without a physical keyboard.
Obviously a physical keyboard is much better to use, but for the time being, I cancelled my pre-order (did so a while back), and am just using the SF for a bit. Will give me time to see how well the Desire Z does, and whether I wanna buy one in the future, or just stick with the SF for a bit longer...
But, I would say that if you are not desperate for a hardware keyboard, and have used touch screen keyboards before and got on ok with them, then it's your choice as to whether the extra money is worth it?! I think most of the differences between the two is the physical keyboard, the internal available rom (1.5gb vs 0.5gb I think), a few differences in the network capabilities and the new sense ui and htcsense.com. So, if you put a custom rom on the phone, then you will have basically the same phone, but without the keyboard and the extra rom...
@lovelldr: are you serious ? Android 2.1, only 600MHz CPU and missing QWERTY keyboard is more than small difference. You are comparing one of the lowend models to the highend.
If we go with your analogy, HTC Dream is pretty much same phone as HTC Desire HD. Except the display size, display resolution, CPU speed, RAM, ROM, other features...
faugusztin said:
@lovelldr: are you serious ? Android 2.1, only 600MHz CPU and missing QWERTY keyboard is more than small difference. You are comparing one of the lowend models to the highend.
If we go with your analogy, HTC Dream is pretty much same phone as HTC Desire HD. Except the display size, display resolution, CPU speed, RAM, ROM, other features...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
WTF, I'm saying I'm staying with that phone until I've seen whether the Desire Z is as good as stated...
I'm stating to the OP the differences between the Desire Z and original Desire... It's then his decision whether he chooses. I was merely stating a software issue (so it doesn't matter which version of android or the hardware differences). I found that swype (again, can be used on any phone, so it doesn't matter) is a good means of input, and that the hardware keyboard isn't so much of a big deal breaker to me any more (after trying it out on the SF).
Where did I say to him to forget either of those phones, and go with an SF?! I didn't...
Then i misunderstood your post, it sounded like you are comparing Desire Z and the Orange SF.
In my experience, physical keyboard is impossible to replace. I had HTC Touch HD, it was a nightmare to type on it (and i had it for a year, so don't try to argue that i didn't tried). Even a bad physical keyboard (like the one on my Milestone) is miles ahead of any virtual keyboard.
yes, physical keyboard is better than a virtual keyboard, hands down...
But, I'm saying that if the user is thinking they can get on with a virtual keyboard (I think that swype is the best virtual keyboard I've tried, works much better than any of the other virtual keyboards, and without swype I probably wouldn't be recommending this), wants to save some money, and isn't too bothered with the small differences between the two (i.e. the internal ram, network offerings etc), then the desire z will be good to go.
If you have someone you know who has an android device, and are able to get swype for that device, then give it a go, and see how you get on... If all works well, and you're happy to save some cash, then go for the original desire I would say... But, at the end, it's your choice, and you might be unable to get on with virtual keyboard, or be a user that must have the latest and greatest...
Problem with Swype is that beta is closed, and i'm not in a mood to explore grey areas of internet . On other side, Swype still doesn't solve the biggest problem of all virtual keyboards - they take up big part of screen, so you have a keyboard instead of content.
faugusztin said:
On other side, Swype still doesn't solve the biggest problem of all virtual keyboards - they take up big part of screen, so you have a keyboard instead of content.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But it's all swings and roundabouts... When using the physical keyboard on a device, it means that the size of the device is almost twice as big... hehe. OK, enough of my argumenting
Thanks for your comments folks... a couple of things to consider but I think I am leaning more towards the Desire Z.
As I understand it, as well as the other points mentioned, the cpu in the Desire Z is a later generation than the Desire so the device runs a lot faser and smoother. I am not too bothered about the qwerty as originally stated but If the qwerty doesn't make the handset all that much bigger than the Desire then I may just take a punt - I may even grow to like the qwerty and I am sure it will be far in advance of the others I have used in the past - namely the Qtek 9100 and the Vario 3.
Price wise I don't think there is a huge difference with current UK prices for sim free handsets so I may be better just shelling out the extra £60-70 for a cutting edge device (Desire Z)?
What I am anxious to avoid is ending up with a new handset that has a qwerty that is never used. That said, apart from the HD which is too big for me I don't see that I have much alternative.
Thanks again for your thoughts ...
Desire Z, for the simple reason that it uses a next generation processor compared to the Desire. The clock speed is a bit lower, but the much faster graphics make up for it. I'm sure there will be overclocking available once the phone is rooted too.
One of the main shortcomings of the Desire's Snapdragon is its graphics capabilities. It's just not up to par with other top players like the Milestone and the Galaxy S series. The Z addresses that.
Soaa- said:
Desire Z, for the simple reason that it uses a next generation processor compared to the Desire. The clock speed is a bit lower, but the much faster graphics make up for it. I'm sure there will be overclocking available once the phone is rooted too.
One of the main shortcomings of the Desire's Snapdragon is its graphics capabilities. It's just not up to par with other top players like the Milestone and the Galaxy S series. The Z addresses that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is rooted and overclockt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=DVORX-ZFblA
Another plus point of the Z over the desire is that the multitouch screen actually works perfectly, I will dig up the video which demonstrates both the desire and Z screens showing off the multitouch hardware........
The thread HERE highlights this topic.
You're doing a good job of convincing me guys, thanks
I looked at some HD videos last night and it seems that thing is even bugger (marginally) than the HD2! Too big for me for sure so back to the Z I think.
mrvanx - I assum this is the video you were referring to?
http://pocketnow.com/android/does-the-g2-suffer-the-same-multi-touch-problems-as-the-nexus-one-video
Demo's the multi-touch differences of the DZ and the N1 very well. I assume the Desire uses the same panel as the N1.
Gone for the Desire Z and ordered from Amazon.co.uk
Delivery stated as between 3rd and 5th Nov (I ordered using Free Super Saver Delivery) but I am sure this will be delayed.
At least they don't take payment prior to dispatch so nothing to lose really.
stian230 said:
it is rooted and overclockt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=DVORX-ZFblA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not actually rooted yet, that's a temp root.
LickTheEnvelope said:
It's not actually rooted yet, that's a temp root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah but he was answering the guy that was saying once the phone is rooted, then it will be able to be overlocked. And he's correct in saying that it has been rooted now, and it is able to be overclocked. It's just semantics, it's not a permanent root, but it's still been rooted.
It's not semantics. I believe we can't flash custom ROMs, which to many people is the best thing about rooting.

[DISCUSSION] Choice between Galaxy S or HTC Desire Z

Hey guys,
I am torn between these 2 phones. Which one should I get, HTC Desire Z or Samsung Galaxy S?
In terms of future updates (Gingerbread or Honeycomb if there is), which one is more likely to be updated?
In terms of web browsing, is Galaxy S with stock froyo good enough to be compared to HTC Desire Z?
Need your guys inputs for battery life too.
Thanks and really appreciate any response.
bryant_16 said:
Hey guys,
I am torn between these 2 phones. Which one should I get, HTC Desire Z or Samsung Galaxy S?
In terms of future updates (Gingerbread or Honeycomb if there is), which one is more likely to be updated?
In terms of web browsing, is Galaxy S with stock froyo good enough to be compared to HTC Desire Z?
Need your guys inputs for battery life too.
Thanks and really appreciate any response.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you email, text, tweet and IM a lot? Enough to justify a hardware keyboard?
Get the Z.
For web browsing alone, the Galaxy S will probably be better with it's larger and AMOLED screen.
Regarding future updates, I'd go for the Z. At least HTC update their flagship phones (the Z is not, but the Galaxy S has still not been updated).
I don't know anything about the batteries.
Hope I helped you bro.
Certainly bro, thanks!
The speed of the web browsing as compared to Galaxy S (froyo stock), which one is faster?
bryant_16 said:
Certainly bro, thanks!
The speed of the web browsing as compared to Galaxy S (froyo stock), which one is faster?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't know, have neither phone
Although I think they'd be about the same. And whichever phone has the faster CPU would probably render the pages faster.
Why not visit a phone shop and test both out. Just say to someone (who works there) that you don't know which phone to pick, and would like to test them side by side.
And be sure to ask them to put a SIM in.
"WHY WON'T IT LOAD ANY PAGES!!?!"
I see. Thanks for the inputs. Is the multi-touch resolved for the HTC Desire Z?
And also, one thing that is bothering me is the hinge. Is it that bad?
bryant_16 said:
I see. Thanks for the inputs. Is the multi-touch resolved for the HTC Desire Z?
And also, one thing that is bothering me is the hinge. Is it that bad?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the hinge just depends on the individual phone. Some people get a stiff (and therefore better) hinge than others. Otherwise, if you get a looser hinge, it *should* only affect you if you lie down or use the phone upside down. Or tweet on a rollercoaster.
I'm going to try and find a shop with a Z to play with it before it is purchased, so if you want, when I come back I'll tell you about the multitouch. Although it'd be better for me if I could install Multi-Touch Visualiser or something on it..
Yeah sure, let me know if the multi-touch is fixed for this phone.
Seems like the hinge is only happening to certain users.
Remind me, what was the multi touch problem?
Sent from a Pulse. Yes, a Pulse.
The z is a better phone by far its built better, its sexier , it can be over clocked to up to 1.9 gigahertz!! And the keyboard feels great and the hinge is pretty stable. And sense is amazing too. the galaxy is an okay phone its got a big screen and its really bright but the amoled makes the colors look off a bit but its still nice but that's not enough to convince me to buy it. Plus htc just makes the best smartphones. Oh and the z has an fm radio
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
And I think it comes with 2.2 wich has flash and that makes for amazing web browsing. I think the samsung has only 2.1 I don't think that has flash. But you could always just get skyfire
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
Ah cool. How could i look for that on a stock z? Browser?
Sent from a Pulse. Yes, a Pulse.
Yeah, you can try that on a browser or picture.
bryant_16 said:
The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, could you explain please ? Then I could tell you what the results is on the DZ. Though as I understand it the DZ has full multi-touch, unlike, say, the Desire.
DanWilson said:
Remind me, what was the multi touch problem?
Sent from a Pulse. Yes, a Pulse.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Am not aware of any multi touch issues but the z has true multi touch, it can register up to 4 points at any given time meaning it's also great for gaming. It took me a while to finally purchase the z after hearing alot of discontentments about the sheer weight of the phone and the hinge. I thought that nothing could beat the n1 but after only a couple of me time with my new z, I knew that I'd made the right choice, it has alot to offer and now that permanent root has been obtained it's only gonna be a matter of time before more custom roms are available, we already have cyanogen, evil, paul and villainrom on board.
I'd say the z/g2.
z and hd has true multitouch.
-- sent from htc z using xda app
bryant_16 said:
The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is not desire z or galaxy s specific. This was a big problem on the n1.
Cool~~ what's holding me back from buying desire z is the hinge man!
I don't know how bad is the hinge.
Is the processor speed of 800mhz different from the HTC Desire snapdragon of 1ghz?
Because currently I'm using HTC Desire.
bryant_16 said:
Cool~~ what's holding me back from buying desire z is the hinge man!
I don't know how bad is the hinge.
Is the processor speed of 800mhz different from the HTC Desire snapdragon of 1ghz?
Because currently I'm using HTC Desire.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What I've heard about were the potential damage to the hinge and not damaged hinges. The new processor is indeed a 2nd generation snapdragon. I did a comparison against my n1 both running at 1ghz. You'd be pleased to know that the z blew the n1 out of the water on linpack and quadrant tests.
How's the GPU in HTC Desire Z as compared to Galaxy S?

Thinking of trading the Desire Z for the Desire S.. should I?

I have had the desire Z for 2 months now.. love it really.
Except a few things..:
1) it's weight.. this is just the biggest turn-off for me. I like traveling lightweight and I thought I'd get used to it but right now I really just prefer a lighter phone..
2) Do i really need the keyboard? it feels good to use the keyboard to type, yes, but there are times where I tried the onscreen keyboard and it worked too, and I don't think I was much slower.
3) The hinge just feels too loose.. makes the device feel cheap. I dont like having the feeling that my front screen will fall out anytime.
4) No frontfacing camera. I will be traveling abroad next semester, and the option to be able to see my family while I'm outside is nice.
Now there are things I really like and will miss if I trade this phone in:
1) the trackpad. I just love it! I use it to wake up my phone now. I use it to slide across my screens on launcherpro just because it's so fun. I really am thinking of keep it just for the safe of the trackpad. I also find the trackpad to be the easiest button for picture taking.
2) the keyboard allows you to see the screen while inputting, instead of the white input screen.
3) camera button for quick access to camera!
Well i'm currently still deciding.. the lightweight desire S is really attractive to me right now.. but I want the trackpad so bad.. sigh.. anyone here experienced how moving away from this phone is like?
I have thought about this as well, I really like the look and feel of the desire s. But and its a big but, I wouldn't only get one when the bootloader has been cracked. I don't like sense very much, so cm7 or another aosp build is a must for me.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App
Well it is a more powerful phone, and it looks like it may meet more of your needs.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2
Ya Trade it.
If keyboard is not important then get the Desire S.
I hate how heavy my Desire Z is with 1800 battery but i need keyboard....
thunder9111 said:
I have had the desire Z for 2 months now.. love it really.
Except a few things..:
1) it's weight.. this is just the biggest turn-off for me. I like traveling lightweight and I thought I'd get used to it but right now I really just prefer a lighter phone..
2) Do i really need the keyboard? it feels good to use the keyboard to type, yes, but there are times where I tried the onscreen keyboard and it worked too, and I don't think I was much slower.
3) The hinge just feels too loose.. makes the device feel cheap. I dont like having the feeling that my front screen will fall out anytime.
4) No frontfacing camera. I will be traveling abroad next semester, and the option to be able to see my family while I'm outside is nice.
Now there are things I really like and will miss if I trade this phone in:
1) the trackpad. I just love it! I use it to wake up my phone now. I use it to slide across my screens on launcherpro just because it's so fun. I really am thinking of keep it just for the safe of the trackpad. I also find the trackpad to be the easiest button for picture taking.
2) the keyboard allows you to see the screen while inputting, instead of the white input screen.
3) camera button for quick access to camera!
Well i'm currently still deciding.. the lightweight desire S is really attractive to me right now.. but I want the trackpad so bad.. sigh.. anyone here experienced how moving away from this phone is like?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will answer your question, how does it feel moving away from this phone? - Miserable - Simple one word... Well... I haven't 100% moved away from my G2/DZ, I just needed one thing which this phone doesn't have, a Front Facing Camera, it was more important to me than to have a physical keyboard... and hence I purchased Moto Atrix. Great phone and all the goodies as higher res screen, dual core processor, etc... but nothing as much fun as owning a G2/DZ.
You can mod your G2/DZ, you get the sturdy and rock solid feel holding this phone in your hand, you have the DLNA support and also you can OverClock your phone...
I don't know how Desire S really feels so no comments.
If you don'r really like the heft, you don't really need the keyboard, go for any other phone, I am sure all the new phone have some or the other advantage over G2/DZ.
Note : Since I love this phone too much, i haven't let it go, i have it as my other phone, which I don't carry with me, but I usually play with my phone as soon as I get home... it becomes primary
GF's Desire S is a nice piece of kit. If you don't want a keyboard, I'd trade it. it's definitely zippier. Not enough to make me want to upgrade out of contract, though.
How about the htc sensation... that looks nice its a bit bigger though lol
I'm not sure if I can wait that long for the sensation though
Plus even the desire Z's cpu has been enough for my needs.. I don't really know why i would need duo-core.. unless it improves the battery dramatically which will be a different story.
Today I will meet someone who may want to buy my desire Z.
If it's sold today then I shall move to the next phone. If not, then I'll just keep it.
Just wish it was a bit lighter..
Getting a Desire S is, with all due respect, a pretty bad idea unless you can get it for very cheap.
I can understand your reasons for disliking the DZ, but the DS has nearly identical specs and there has been a big leap in processing power, especially now with the SGS2's Exynos processor which is a huge step up from the DZ's MSM7230.
The DS's specs were antiquated when it was released. If thos matters to you, you might want to look elsewhere
ive always been told if your gonna do something, do it right dont go and buy the desire s on a whim when the sensation is just around the corner lol
id save my money, keep the desire z if theres nothing wrong with it and when the sensation does come out, try it out before you buy it, if you dont like it then go for the desire s... the desire s will be cheaper then as well... so its win win
Yeah, Sensation is supposed to be out this or the next month, and even though I would say Desire S is a great phone and a viable replacement I would do at least, Sensation going retail in so short timespan is rendering it obsolete. Furthermore, I can hardly imagine that Desire S will get the developers attention here as Desire did as most of them already bought DHD. Sensation might end up with load of awesomeness though
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
no doubt about the sensation getting development.... i reckon the development around it will be somewhat like the htc hd2... which is also an amazing phone.
when htc make a huge deal over a phone, it usually means the developers are all over the phone. htc hd2, hd2 desire, htc desire hd, and the sensation lol

Is the Desire Z/G2 a dying breed of phone - a flagship keyboard phone?

Okay, I posted a very similar thread in the Epic 4G section. I don't often come to this forum.
It seems to me that looking at all of the new releases, with the possible exception of the Motorola Droid series (although it seems the Droid Razr is getting more hype than the Droid 3 did, so it may not even count as a flagship), is the era of flagship physical keyboard phones dead?
Noteworthy to me is the fact that other than the Desire Z (and the Desire HD was arguably the flagship of its time, although IMO the Z was a better phone), there have been no new keyboard flagship phones from HTC or Samsung or most of the smaller makers.
What do you think is the future of keyboard phones?
So far all of them seem to be decidedly mid-range devices, not phones that set the bar, so to speak.
G3. Can't have a google dev phone without a keyboard yet.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App
Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
I was a Keyboard Smartphoner from the beginning, but now, I think on the bigger screens its more easier to type fast on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe my next Phone is no more equipped with a hardware keyboard.
first fact for this is the wight and the design.. 180g and 15mm is not so "smart"
kabauterman said:
Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
I was a Keyboard Smartphoner from the beginning, but now, I think on the bigger screens its more easier to type fast on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe my next Phone is no more equipped with a hardware keyboard.
first fact for this is the wight and the design.. 180g and 15mm is not so "smart"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish it would be more "mainstream", have a 720p screen and LTE support. I'll stick with my Desire Z for now.
i don't get the race to the flattest phone in the world, i would say give some extra fat for all those extremely flatty things and slap bigger battery in them.
Desire Z feels like a phone, i like the way its think, not too thick, and im fine whit the weight, people can't carry 200 grams whit em anymore?
There's Droid 4 coming, 5row qwerty, looks promising, hope they include atleast 1,2Ghz cpu. But at this moment i don't think im going to change to a new phone within a year. Ill hope HTC comes up whit 5 row G3.
Whippler said:
i don't get the race to the flattest phone in the world, i would say give some extra fat for all those extremely flatty things and slap bigger battery in them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not too big on super thin either -idk what's with this trend.
So far mostly mid-range phones - Glide is a midrange; the Galaxy Note or HTC Rezound are more like top-end.
I personally prefer something a little thicker and heavier in my hands ;D
Jokes aside, the heaviness of the phone gives me the feel of a better build quality, as opposed to the cheap feel of the S II, which my gf has. So light it weighs next to nothing...
feels like the wind can just blow it away...
Yes i hate thin light phones! I want a brick phone damn it! Give me a big screen a good keyboard (im thinking G1 style but full width) and a nice thick heavy battery that will last all day. Oh and i want one of them fancy induction chargers built into the case. And a nice creditcard chip thingy.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
shortlived said:
Yes i hate thin light phones! I want a brick phone damn it! Give me a big screen a good keyboard (im thinking G1 style but full width) and a nice thick heavy battery that will last all day. Oh and i want one of them fancy induction chargers built into the case. And a nice creditcard chip thingy.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like a Galaxy Note with a Desire Z style keyboard?
walropodes said:
Like a Galaxy Note with a Desire Z style keyboard?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OMG that would rock my socks. I wonder, is there maybe a proper sized BT keyboard and a case?
Check Adapt ADK-100 Micro Keyboard (Amazon ASIN B003ZWGEW8) saying it's exactly the size of an iPhone 4. this is a comparison with the HD2: images.mobilityminded.com/2010/07/IMG_4444.jpg
Also discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327124
My opinion is riding a subway,bus etc. Qwerty wins. Physical buttons will always be superior and more versatile/precise.
I do think phones are crafted by trends, had the G2 originally been launched with a tighter spring, this phone would have sold like crazy.
Although I'm happy with my phone as I think its funny when I catch people looking at my phone wondering which one it is or why my screen is green.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
I'll stick with the Z for a long time before I move to something without a keyboard!
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
sauron0101 said:
Okay, I posted a very similar thread in the Epic 4G section. I don't often come to this forum.
It seems to me that looking at all of the new releases, with the possible exception of the Motorola Droid series (although it seems the Droid Razr is getting more hype than the Droid 3 did, so it may not even count as a flagship), is the era of flagship physical keyboard phones dead?
Noteworthy to me is the fact that other than the Desire Z (and the Desire HD was arguably the flagship of its time, although IMO the Z was a better phone), there have been no new keyboard flagship phones from HTC or Samsung or most of the smaller makers.
What do you think is the future of keyboard phones?
So far all of them seem to be decidedly mid-range devices, not phones that set the bar, so to speak.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You seem to have missed the HTC DOUBLESHOT:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...px?cell-phone=T-Mobile-myTouch-4G-Slide-Black
I moved from the Desire to the Desire Z.
To me, a thin keyboard-less phone like the Desire is like an Aston Martin with a 1 litre engine in it. It may look nice but, it's missing the grunt to really get things done (functionality wise rather than cpu!).
With the Desire Z, I can snap open the keyboard and get far more screen real estate without having to have a software keyboard popping up. I can also do common tasks like copying and pasting faster and easily switch apps with shortcuts. I can pretty much touch type on my phone now, while walking for example without looking down.
Of course, we all know this, I just wish the public would realise the advantages of having a keyboard and then manufacturers would make more of an effort. Maybe if we all lectured friends, we can force a tipping point!
kabauterman said:
Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well and at&t at that. Ugh.
The Glide has already been out in Canada for a couple weeks or so. Although Rogers is just as bad as AT&T probably.
Well, you got me there. Me and my brother enjoy the feel of keyboards on our phones. My G2 came across an lcd problem and my sister got me a G2x, good phone but couldn't enjoy the LG,since I'm an htc guy. Sold it,got a sidekick 4G, didn't like the way samsung made it. Sold that, bought a new LCD, fixed my G2. At the end of the day, I'm a Qwerty keyboard HTC guy. As for my bro, a HTC mytouch guy, he loves the Mytouch Slide 4G. We both came from a G1. I'm praying for the G3. *fingers crossed*
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
What I'm hoping for in the next year:
1.2 ghz dual core minimum
5 inch screen (4.5 inch minimum)
Qwerty 3-4 row I don't care
Hdmi out
Not samsung (wii controller won't work)
Must have decent battery life, most liekly ill be buying another fat mugen lol
preferred htc but its not really a big deal to me
Don't care about thick or thin
Honestly the desire z handles everything but the screen size and hdmi out want my n64 on the big screen! I'm hoping for gamecube/dreamcast emulators in the next years. These overclocked dual cores can easily handle it.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
scottmog said:
What I'm hoping for in the next year:
1.2 ghz dual core minimum
5 inch screen (4.5 inch minimum)
Qwerty 3-4 row I don't care
Hdmi out
Not samsung (wii controller won't work)
Must have decent battery life, most liekly ill be buying another fat mugen lol
preferred htc but its not really a big deal to me
Don't care about thick or thin
Honestly the desire z handles everything but the screen size and hdmi out want my n64 on the big screen! I'm hoping for gamecube/dreamcast emulators in the next years. These overclocked dual cores can easily handle it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You couldn't PAY me to use a phone with a 5" screen. Screen ***ABSOLUTELY MUST*** be UNDER 4". Any bigger than that and it isn't a phone -- its a tablet, and no, I'm not interested in holding a tablet up to my head to make a phone call.
dhkr234 said:
You couldn't PAY me to use a phone with a 5" screen. Screen ***ABSOLUTELY MUST*** be UNDER 4". Any bigger than that and it isn't a phone -- its a tablet, and no, I'm not interested in holding a tablet up to my head to make a phone call.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool, wasn't really asking for anyones opinion. Some people just don't like big phones, I love big phones and surf the internet and play games quite often. I don't wear tight jeans too lol, so 5 inch phones would not really be to big.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Categories

Resources