Database Users

I'm here to tell you that the grass isn't always greener

Just traded my G2 for a Vibrant. The G2 is a great phone but the lack of permanent root was too much for me.

Just like everyone used to say how the desire was so much faster, I compared the two for a good few hours froyo desire vs eclair sgs.
The desire is slower, especially panning menu's and the browser
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Bottom line.. Never ever buy a phone just released. Give it a month our two to settle and let the initial hype fade. Who in their right mind would lock into a G2 for two years right now? But a month ago it seemed like a fine idea.

grennis is right
+1 Just like the new hyped N2 coming..... wait and see

Only thing I want from the N2 is a port of the system... If it becomes possible, why even bother?
HTC blocking root, samsung N2... I'm thinking we all might have made a great choice with the vibrant.

People shouldnt buy phones just because theyre the latest and greatest... Get a phone that works for YOU. I will say that as someone who works in the wireless industry, the Vibrant is the best, hands down.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Straight up trade? I would've traded you.

My only qualms about the Vibrant: I'd like to be able to use the FFC with the stock ROM, I want FROYO on my phone, and it would be nice if the camera flash could be present.
Peace
S II

I need opinions on the Mytouch 3g slide

Hi everyone. I'm switching TMO and have decided on the Mytouch 4G. I'm having a hard time deciding which phone to get for my wife. She really wants a phone with a keyboard and likes my current phones capabilities (samsung captivate). I was thinking about the G2, but after seeing the hinge I'm thinking that's not the best idea since she tends to drop her phone and stuff. Although the Mytouch 3g slide is slightly older I'm considering getting that one.
What I want to know is if current users of the Mytouch 3g Slide think that it is a good phone for a first time android user who will mainly use it for texting, light web viewing, email and some Facebook posting.
I would appreciate any feedback you all can provide.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Yes, it's a great phone for a first timer (that's me).
I will say this though, I rarely use the physical keyboard any more. With Swype, SwiftKey and now the Gingerbread keyboard, there's just not much reason. I usually end up bumping the volume key with me finger when I use the physical keyboard.
Aside from that though, it's a great phone. It might not be the fastest or fanciest on the market, but it gets the job done.
My wife, on the other hand, is also a first time Android user and just got the MyTouch 4G. She absolutely loves it, it feels sturdier, and everyday it seems more likely she'll see a Gingerbread upgrade before I see Froyo.
Unless she's dead-set on the keyboard, I'd go with the 4G.

For its price, it is a great phone. Just root it and install CyanogenMod 6 on it, and it is really fast and stabe.

Thanks sandpaperback and UberMario. You have both given me confidence in getting this phone.
I've been trying to convince her to go with a keyboard-less phone, but she is set on it so I figure why argue. LOL. I'm thinking about just having her try it without the keyboard and only using touch screen and if she starts to like it then I will just take it back and exchange it for the Mytouch 4g.
Thanks again for the info.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

just going to add what everyone else said that if your wife tends to drop phones, she's gonna need a protective skin/case. the shell knicks too easily. other than that, its a sturdy, reliable, good average user phone

Thanks for the suggestion on the shell/case. I will make sure I get her one.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

The Slide is a good phone for a first time user. The keyboard is damn good and, even though it's all plastic, it's pretty sturdy. Hell, I've dropped mine a few times and the worst that happened besides a few scratches was the battery cover and battery fell out. But it doesn't have the greatest available storage at 145 MB before you put anything on it. Also the processor is outdated (ARMv6, the same as the G1!). But, if you're planning on buying it outright, then go ahead and get your wife a slide.
However, if you're planning on getting it on contract, I'd say either go with a G2 or try and convince your wife that she'll be able to text fine without a keyboard and get her a Mytouch 4G or get a Nexus S and give her your MT4G. They're all going to be more future-proof, having better processors, memory and storage and, especially with the NS being Google branded, you're more guaranteed updates.
HTC and T-Mobile have all but abandoned this phone and the developer support for the Slide has all but died, with only a few competent developers working on it. Now if you were to ask me this a few months ago, I would have said 'ya, get it. It's a great phone'. But now, I say it's an ok phone, but it has a short lifespan.
Those are my two cents.

heybobitsme said:
The Slide is a good phone for a first time user. The keyboard is damn good and, even though it's all plastic, it's pretty sturdy. Hell, I've dropped mine a few times and the worst that happened besides a few scratches was the battery cover and battery fell out. But it doesn't have the greatest available storage at 145 MB before you put anything on it. Also the processor is outdated (ARMv6, the same as the G1!). But, if you're planning on buying it outright, then go ahead and get your wife a slide.
However, if you're planning on getting it on contract, I'd say either go with a G2 or try and convince your wife that she'll be able to text fine without a keyboard and get her a Mytouch 4G or get a Nexus S and give her your MT4G. They're all going to be more future-proof, having better processors, memory and storage and, especially with the NS being Google branded, you're more guaranteed updates.
HTC and T-Mobile have all but abandoned this phone and the developer support for the Slide has all but died, with only a few competent developers working on it. Now if you were to ask me this a few months ago, I would have said 'ya, get it. It's a great phone'. But now, I say it's an ok phone, but it has a short lifespan.
Those are my two cents.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, go with the G2 or MT4G, you'll be much happier with one of those instead..But with swype and the large screen-the MT4G is easy to use, the slide's kb isnt the best.Get something fast that you know can handle future updates, also the other phones have better resolutions, so it's good for watching stuff on.

Thanks guys, now I have more to think about. A little earlier I had my wife use my Captivate to send a long text. She did alright for not being used to it. I think I'm going to get her the Mytouch 4g and if she doesn't like it after a week or so then I will exchange it for a G2. The hinge on the G2 just has me worried cause it doesn't look very strong.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

It's a terrible phone. It's slow, has a low resolution screen, and the CPU is ARM v6, so if you root it and put Cyangoenmod on it, you'll never have flash support.

JohnnyDanger said:
Hi everyone. I'm switching TMO and have decided on the Mytouch 4G. I'm having a hard time deciding which phone to get for my wife. She really wants a phone with a keyboard and likes my current phones capabilities (samsung captivate). I was thinking about the G2, but after seeing the hinge I'm thinking that's not the best idea since she tends to drop her phone and stuff. Although the Mytouch 3g slide is slightly older I'm considering getting that one.
What I want to know is if current users of the Mytouch 3g Slide think that it is a good phone for a first time android user who will mainly use it for texting, light web viewing, email and some Facebook posting.
I would appreciate any feedback you all can provide.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I love my 3gs. I have rooted it and messed that up a few times when I was first learning and it never bricked. I have flashed it a few times and it keeps on ticking. It is easy typing and I love the slide out keys. Great phone ...

[Q] G2 user, Buying a MyTouch...

Alright guys, I've had my G2 since November 2, and now I am realizing that I really don't need a hard keyboard since I'm coming from an iPhone and haven't used a Hard keyboard since I've sold my G1 in January 09.
What I'm going to do is, sell this phone and go out and get a MyTouch.
I love the G2 but the keyboard and bulky feeling gets to me. It's quick and love the keyboard once in a while writing fast texts.
Now I'm stuck in the middle, should I do it?
With the G2, CyanogenMod works and is supported by Cyanogen himself.
And also, the G2 is stock, and feels like there is more devs making roms for it.
What do you guys think I should do? THanks

I switched for the same reason and haven't looked back. You'll enjoy the better camera, better video recording, extra ram, ffc, hard touch buttons, and thinner design.

IMO by reading your post I can tell your curious about the mt4g and I sense as though you may have already made up your mind lol you are correct on all accounts as far as dev support (so far), I say if you are in a position to try it out why not? I don't think you will be disappointed just make sure you get the "good" display.

there's a lot more Dev support for the G2
I was worried about Dev support coming from the Vibrant, which has a pretty good community.
Funny thing is....the MT4G is fast as lightning stock...and really all I'm worried about is rooting to remove some bloatware and some theming.
I might run Cyanogenmod (which looks like it's pretty easily ported) eventually, but this is my first sense (ish) phone and it's not too bad. Plus I like a lot of the things that they packed in (in particular the browser enhancements).
The Vibrant: There were tons of roms and speed hacks and dev work because the phone was garbage without it.
The MT4G: Pretty damn sweet and fast as lightning stock.

Came from the same thing you are im good with the mytouch better faster and ffc go for it you wont regret it

someone at my job has the g2 when she sees my mytouch running evil-hd Rom she regrets buying her phone, keyboard on that thing is useless in comparison to voice to text swipe, gingerbread keyboard (cm only) etc.. Our dev support isn't so bad these days, we even have a miui Rom so I say take the plunge no regrets
Sent from my HTC Glacier using Tapatalk

Alright, I've made up my mind. I want the MyTouch. But now the problem is getting rid of the G2 and getting a MyTouch. The G2 cost $50 more retail than the MyTouch but already the value is **** on craigslist. I can't get $400 for it. I've tired emailing and calling a couple people to see if they'd like to trade, no one wants too.
Once I get rid of this G2, I am in for the MyTouch. I don't care about the color anymore, lol, white or black, other than the red and purple.
Anyone here know where else I can sell it? eBay? I don't want too cause paypal and eBay take big chunk of the money... Ughhhhhh, If I can't I'm going to stick it with this phone. I like it but the MyTouch is better but whatever.
But the thing is, I really use the keyboard on this thing though. I hate using the swype or any other soft KB for long text messages, the hard KB is just easy to type on.

Last Friday I sold a G2 for 300 on C/L.
Saturday bought a Nexus S on a contract upgrade.
Returned the Nexus S this morning, canceled contract.
(I could not deal with the phone having no way to move the curser)
Tonight bought a MyTouch 4G brand new for 350 on C/L.
Impressions... the MT4G is a faster better phone then the G2
but the bloat ware is horrible.
I'm too used to the stock android on my Nexus One.

I have a G2 and I wind up with a free mytouch 4g due to some contact shifting. I didn't care for it at first, and went back to my G2. Then I gave it another chance, and used it over last weekend. I was bummed about what I perceived to be poor battery life compared to my wife's G2. When I went back to the G2 I realized what bugged me about it: the keyboard is a little too stiff for me, and I went back to the mytouch. It's my fifth Android phone, and the best I've used.

Well buddy I am in the same boat as you are and like you I also wanted G2 but later switched to MT4G, thank god I didn't buy G2 or I would have regretted it by now as MT4G is superior. Now I come from HD2 community and we all know the advancement we achieved in past few months which is unbeatable at this point by any device when it comes to total custom control. Only reason I am even considering MT4G is due to my beloved HD2 being stolen. Other than that I wouldn't even think about upgrading until there was viable dual core mobile processor based device in the market.
HyperNode said:
TMobile
(WON) MT4G vs G2
(WON) MT4G vs Vibrant
(WON) MT4G vs HD7
Sprint
(WON) MT4G vs Evo 4G
(WON) MT4G vs Epic 4G
AT&T
(WON) MT4G vs iPhone 4
Other
(WON) MT4G vs Nexus S
MT4G vs Desire HD (WON)
Well, after comparing many phones to MT4G in many areas like spec, benchmark, IRL usability (browser, map, cam, ect). This is the overall result I got in my opinion so I am not trying to be biased here as I myself voted for HD2. But the only device that did beat MT4G in my opinion was Desire HD which is what I wanted only if they supported 3G in USA, hell IDK why HTC make stupid decisions. I know ill be super pissed of if they realse DHD in USA with US model just like they did with HD2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Thanks for the replies. I got myself a white one today, even trade with the G2. Haven't got to play with it much yet but I'm living the form factor of the phone. For done reason the screen feels brighter and bigger, hence only being one inch bigger. Can't wait until I root it and get this baby going wanted the black one cause it looks slick but this will do until someone wanted to trade their black one for a white one, anyone?
Edit, you can probably tell in using swype, just have to let go of that urge to whoop out the physical keyboard when I get frustrated with swype or the soft keyboard.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

one inch bigger? that would be huge

stratax said:
one inch bigger? that would be huge
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sorry. 0.1 inch bigger. Alright this isn't like the G2 at all. I rooted and got S-off but the Rom isn't rooted. What do I do to have root stick?
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Since I'm on my phone I can't get you the link but go in the android development section and look for how to root noob version that's the way I rooted mine
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Thanks. I got it. Now there's a couple things I need to fix or get it to work. Just the lack of roms, coming from the G2 annoys me. There's no good rom out there.
And the battery issue, it won't update or show the correct values of the battery
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Talking about lack of roms and development. As im already semi-migrating from HD2 to MT4G, didn't buy MT4G yet until few of the bull**** is fixed by HTC (washed out display, off center ffc, creaky buttons, ect) makes you think how it even passed QC in first place. I mean if I am welling to pay and will pay the full device price of $450 then I expect it to work. Most importantly I hope this phone can live up to my HD2 standard when it comes specially to customizability, I mean we all know how versatile HD2 is hell folks down there want me to forget about MT4G and buy another HD2 lol. I hope as time goes on MT4G community also grows along with development.

Try using team silences' Iced glacier Rom, its the stock mytouch Rom so its super stable, but it doesnt have all the bloatware. As far as your battery goes download setup(free) from the market, that along with some other phone weeks should help your battery life substantially. Also titanium backup is another app to download (free) that can help you further remove bloatware.
Sent from my Ice glazed glacier v1.1.3, using the xda app

Setcpu* is the first app I mentioned, caught the typo after sending, sorry
Sent from my Ice glazed glacier v1.1.3, using the xda app

Please post questions in Q&A section.

Newb coming from TP2 versus myt4g and modding

Hey members,
Newb here to the forums and wanting to get regular with posting and such. I was on sprint users and have moved over to tmobile on a family plan and signed up during the FREE PROMOTION. I got 3 lines for Wife, MIL, and Me. We went with 2 my touch 4g for the ladies and I picked up the G2.
I was really sad to see that rooting would be very tricky using ADB compared to EVO like my brothers. I found a quick and easy method using terminal and preset images. I loaded up nightly build for cyanogen vision build 37. Overclock to 1.3ghz and using 1500mhz EVO battery modded. I plan to pick up a mugen battery but wanted to use what i had lying around the house for Sh*ts and giggles.
I have 12 more days left to swap out for any other model in store and only thing that looked decent was mytouch4g. With the latest roms and slight overclock i am happy with performance and build quality (wish hinges were slight bit stronger and held in place). Should I bother looking at any other models in the next 12 days. Seems like all the next gen phones will be out in next 2-4 months and the deal i got was really nice. I paid $100 up front for each phones and with that we got free accessories, 15% off monthly bill and free activation. The kicker is we get $200 back in mail in rebate per phone so that should help with modding costs
Any recommendations at all on MIUI rom versus a decent Cyanogen rom that i should try next or any other rom for that matter. I was very glad that with those 4 links i was able to be up and running in matter of couple hours and was able to spend the rest of my time with baby boi versus ADB
thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906590
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
vision nightly build 37
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=vision

I have both the G2 and the MT4G. Both are amazing phones with excellent hardware (minus them stupid hinges). Right now the mytouch is my weapon of choice, but it took a long time for that to happen. I still use my G2 here and there. Both are rooted with Cyanogen nightlys. My best advice to you would be play with your wifes phone here and there. do some comparisons of what you like to do with the phones. One major factor is ffc vs real keyboard. Personally I would pick the keyboard cause I don't know many people who really are gonna get that much use outta the ffc. I mean its cool but how often is it really goin to get used. The reason I am using the mytouch though is because of it's 768(or something like that) RAM. G2 comes with only 512(I believe). This offers more more functionality for what I like to do with my phones and its future. It is a very tough decision, and good luck with whichever you choose.
On a side note, I am somewhat disappointed in the G2 only because the G1 was so iconic and the G2 just seems like a semi-improved nexus1. Plus the G1 was a class of it's own whereas the G2 has a twin called the desire z. A phone with that type of history/background should be another single Icon. This is just my opinion though. The phone is great for what it is.

Steve.Beanz said:
I have both the G2 and the MT4G. Both are amazing phones with excellent hardware (minus them stupid hinges). Right now the mytouch is my weapon of choice, but it took a long time for that to happen. I still use my G2 here and there. Both are rooted with Cyanogen nightlys. My best advice to you would be play with your wifes phone here and there. do some comparisons of what you like to do with the phones. One major factor is ffc vs real keyboard. Personally I would pick the keyboard cause I don't know many people who really are gonna get that much use outta the ffc. I mean its cool but how often is it really goin to get used. The reason I am using the mytouch though is because of it's 768(or something like that) RAM. G2 comes with only 512(I believe). This offers more more functionality for what I like to do with my phones and its future. It is a very tough decision, and good luck with whichever you choose.
On a side note, I am somewhat disappointed in the G2 only because the G1 was so iconic and the G2 just seems like a semi-improved nexus1. Plus the G1 was a class of it's own whereas the G2 has a twin called the desire z. A phone with that type of history/background should be another single Icon. This is just my opinion though. The phone is great for what it is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would like to correct your g1 statement the g1 is actually a triplet having the dev 1(android site) and the htc dream(Europe)http://mobilenewz.net/2009/02/google-blocking-paid-market-apps-from-dev-phone-1-users/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream
but then again the G2 and Dezire z are like good twin and bad twin (hence Stock and Sense)

I love my g2 except for my first one had a busted hinge and the replacement they sent the phone wouldn't stay shut. It had the loosest hinge.
My case I got the g2 for a business device because I email a lot and wanted a physical kb (and not the limitations of a blackberry) but I now worry about my 3rd replacement being a possible dud too. I guess ill wait and see.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

@TakoLuffer Thanks for the correction. Although I still feel that the G2 is a little disappointing. But that is just my 2 cents. It is a great phone, don't get me wrong. To me it just seems it comes up short to what it could/should have been.

Just checking in

Hello fellow Vision Users,
Just thoughts I'd jump on here to open up a discussion. I first acquired a T-Mobile G2 when I dropped my MyTouch Slide and had to get an insurance replacement because i had broken the Camera lens. The phone still functioned fine and i was willing to live with it til someone informed me that Insurion didn't have my color in stock so my options were to get a Black MyTouch Slide (as opposed to Red) or the G2. Naturally i decided to get the G2 (because really, who wouldn't?). It's been my favorite phone since the Sidekick LX.
Anyway, a couple months ago I acquired a Sensation 4g from my Brother when he upgraded to a Galaxy S II. I Instantly rooted and put the best rated ICS Rom on it. Been Running OpenSensation ever since. Hands down best Aosp on that phone.
Since then I continue to Keep my G2 up to date. Currently running ILWT. While I haven't used it extensively since getting the Sensation I sincerely find myself missing my G2. While ICS runs pretty flawslessly on the sensation, I'm just really not "in love" with the phone. I haven't ran any ICS Roms for very long on the G2.
Sorry for the Long read but, what I'm basically getting at is that I'm pretty bummed at the fact HTC has decided that they "currently" have no plans for Qwerty phones. People make fun of Apple for releasing the same phone over and over, but really, what's wrong with that? Seriously, if HTC decided to make The G2 again with a snapdragon S4, maybe a slightly larger screen and some minor cosmetic changes (maybe no "Z-hinge") wouldn't you buy it again? I know I would!!!
TL;DR - I LOVE THIS PHONE and i want an updated version of THIS phone sometime in the future, I couldn't care less of "Thinness."

Fyi, I'm intoxicated,
Sorry for the ramblings / grammatical errors.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA

gio_Az said:
Fyi, I'm intoxicated,
Sorry for the ramblings / grammatical errors.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea for the drunk/stoned speech! Here, Here and all that stuff! Have done the same thing before so no sweat! The secret is... not to admit it next time. People will just think you're a fun guy

ICS on the G2 is getting better and better. Most of the bugs have been killed by now.
I can understand your feelings of not getting a G3. It just really sucks.
I think I will just keep using my G2 for at least a year. Overclocked with ICS its still a great phone. Typing this with my hw keyboard still is way better then the virtual one..
I think that if HTC is not going to make a decent hw keyboard phone, someone else will. There are still lots of people that want a hw keyboard. If there is a market there will be a product
Ps. The G2 is not that old and HTC only gave updates for a very short time. I would think twice before getting a new HTC. This phone is more then capable to run ICS...
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

sino8r said:
Yea for the drunk/stoned speech! Here, Here and all that stuff! Have done the same thing before so no sweat! The secret is... not to admit it next time. People will just think you're a fun guy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha, I'll keep that in mind for next time.
Sent from my HTC Sensatawion using XDA

desmi said:
ICS on the G2 is getting better and better. Most of the bugs have been killed by now.
I can understand your feelings of not getting a G3. It just really sucks.
I think I will just keep using my G2 for at least a year. Overclocked with ICS its still a great phone. Typing this with my hw keyboard still is way better then the virtual one..
I think that if HTC is not going to make a decent hw keyboard phone, someone else will. There are still lots of people that want a hw keyboard. If there is a market there will be a product
Ps. The G2 is not that old and HTC only gave updates for a very short time. I would think twice before getting a new HTC. This phone is more then capable to run ICS...
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like I've said, I'm currently using a Sensation, which I have on a permanent "borrow" lol. I agree, the G2 is plenty powerful for "old" hardware. And i love The hw keyboard. The only phone I'm currently considering spending my personal money on is maybe the Galaxy S3. But I'd prefer a sleek device with powerful specs and a hw keyboard.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA

When it comes to every even thinking about giving up the g2..all I hear from other friends who were previous g2 owners is how much they miss it?!! lol
And how there new GS2 is compatible with this app...and they miss there qwerty board! And my main focus is I don't think there is another HTC phone that will come out with a better appearance then the g2! All the material that is used seems cheap! ....in my opinion.

I am thinking of getting a new phone soon too, however, I still will be keeping my DZ with me. The main reason why I am considering getting a new phone is that I am starting to feel it being just a bit outdated. New apps and games tend to lag pretty often even with all the tweaks Ive made.
Anyway, I still love my phone. Though I dont use the HW keyboard much lately, it comes in handy when I have to type in long messages like this post.
I really hope we will see another HTC device with a keyboard soon.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk

You can always use a seperate (bluetooth) keyboard. I had one for my palm many years ago. Worked fine and was a bit bigger then the one from the dz (but could still fit in my pocket).
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

rand0m_insanity said:
I am thinking of getting a new phone soon too, however, I still will be keeping my DZ with me. The main reason why I am considering getting a new phone is that I am starting to feel it being just a bit outdated. New apps and games tend to lag pretty often even with all the tweaks Ive made.
Anyway, I still love my phone. Though I dont use the HW keyboard much lately, it comes in handy when I have to type in long messages like this post.
I really hope we will see another HTC device with a keyboard soon.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm noticing this as well. All the newer games, even little word games, lag my phone. If you open more than two of them, our beloved g2 just can't handle it anymore. I was using a mt4gs for a little and man, if this phone had that processor it would be so much better. Anyhow, august can't get here fast enough for me, upgrade city.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

Been exclusively using my G2 for about a week now, put the Aokp port on it, and I have to say it runs fairly well, sure certain things lag but that's expected. For a single core it still handles everything just as well as any current mid range to low range phone.
Personally I Never play games on the G2 so that doesn't really matter to me. For web browsing, checking facebook, twitter, texting, web browsing and of course making calls it's still perfectly capable.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA