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[Q] What to buy after a G1 ?

So I bricked my G1 yesterday ( bad bad me )
Maybe it's time for a new phone, but I can't find a good alternative so far
If I can't I'll just buy another old one
The things I liked about the G1 ( beside android ofcourse )
1- Keyboard
Keyboard, I do alot of typing and remote shell connection, so a touch screen keyboard doesn't do it for me
The G1 keyboard was really ideal for this
2- Availability of Roms
3- GPS that would work even without network connection , not assisted gps
4- Compass
Things I didn't like but was surviving with
1- Speeeeeed
2- Memory size
3- Camera and Flash
Any suggestions on what phone to get after a good old G1 ?
My touch slide seems like a good alternative,
Has anyone tried it, any feedback ?
Any other suggestions ?

How about the G2? It seems like a fitting successor. The design is not so grand in my opinion, but it should be a top of the line handset. I am a keyboard only type of guy. I am in love with the Epic 4g styling. I like the Touch Pro 2 in terms of design. However the iffy state of Android on the TP2 is a put-off. Stay tuned for the G2. It's going to be a big phone in terms of technology and T-Mobiles hop into HSPA.
http://www.engadget.com/tag/g2/
Or if you want a G1, some fella started a thread in this forum selling his.

I love the G1 & just recently stopped using one, tmobs phone selection as far as to android devices is pretty mediocre in comparison to others, so when time came I dumped then & got an evo... I was a big stickler on the keyboard as well, but an onscreen keyboard on a 4.3 screen isn't so bad, but I do miss the feel of an actual keyboard, you kinda get to know it by touch. But gps, compass all that stuff is pretty much standard android, check out the epic if your looking to jump I think that's qwerty & should be a sweet phone & as far as roms, pretty much if they have rooted the device your gonna find a slew of roms to follow...but if your sticking with tmob then I would just browse there devices forums here to see which seem to have the most support, after having a G1 forever, I had to go get me a suped (?) Up android phone and tmob didn't cut it, I think that samsung phone is there only 1g phone & i don't believe that has a keyboard though... At any rate good luck, heh, if you stick with anything android after the G1 you can't really go wrong anyway.
Sent from my phone.

funkeee
Yeah, G2 looks very interesting, but it's not out yet, and frankly I'm not the 'latest and greatest' type, I prefer to wait untill a new product gets in the market for a few month and stabilizes in terms of price and performance
maxomus
Thanks for the epic tip, will look into it

hhmm, found out the Epic is not out yet as well, looks very interesting though

You'd be broke if you were always getting that latest and greatest.
But the G2 -- IMHO and I am a devout TMobile customer, Did the whole Sidekick line (moved to Android/G1 like 4 weeks before we found out TMobile was not working on a new Sidekick and 4 months before they announced the Sidekick was dead!) TMo knows has secured its immaculate position in Android history as the first carrier on Android. I recall analysts predicting Tmo would miserably fail if not go bankrupt/buyout with the Android platform. How wrong they were!
The HTC Dream is the first phone ever on Android. Its successor, the HTC Vision is quite fitting ---- you cannot really have a Vision without first having a Dream.... (actually its impossible to visualize something without first provoking a dream to correspond to said vision) TMO's pathetic compatitors, Verizon/Sprint and even ATT (yes even ATT!) have had glory days this year, but TMO is about to re-emerge with the next GREAT phone --- the HTC Vision/G2.
G2 probably will never end up being the third Android Developer Phone because the Nexus One probably will still be able to matriculate anything the G2 does.... but what the N1 cannot do, that the G2 may be able to do is dual core processor!!! Ive never ran WinMo before, (spend too much time on Windows anyway) but if the G2 is in fact capable, it will be fun to pwn Ballmer)
In short --- and with the big picture in mind, and the fact that the G2 is the first HDSPA phone which will also be a World Phone and that it has a keyboard adds up to something simple -- the G2 is going to be the BOMB!!!
What is really on my mind that I do not understand is... Danger's Sidekick.... which is now proprietary Microsoft, that was created by Andy Rubin (VP Engineering Android) and HTC are working on... something freaky... the rebirth of the SideDroid. A microsoft phone which can possibly intra-dual-core (both boots runnning simultaneously and in tandem, if not comprehensively and intermingly.... do we do Bing orr do we do Google? or Bing? Google?
Bring it.

androidcues
I agree, G2 will probably be a big hit
but I need a phone now
I think I might just settle for another used G1 for a few months untill G2, Epic are out there in a good price point
wanna send me one of the several one's you have as a birthday gift

It cool they are coming with the G2...I hope it has an 1GHZ Processor.
But if mobile carrier is not a prefernce, the Droid is a good smartphone/w a physical keyboard. The reason I won't get one b/c I don't particularly care for Verizon and I like GSM phones.
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I loved the G1 because of its clean and simple design.
Do not like the look of the G2 at all.
The Motorola droid x is the best looking device out there at the moment, although apparently the packaged software is dire and motorola have added preventative measures to stop people flashing non-motorola-approved roms.
As a result I would be looking at the Nexus one if i had to choose today. Its restriction free, will have barely no carrier 'fluff' integrated into the rom, and will be supported for a long time.

Wait....Isn't G2 the Hero? I'm confused. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPkeXZbaw3Q&feature=related
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Never mind. I found Its nickname "Vision"

I agree with most of what you said. I got a text from T-Mobile this morning saying the G2 was coming. So I get on the net to check out their own website, it wasn't working. So I search the net to find out anything about it and doesn't appear to be much better. They've increased the megapixels on the camera but only to a 5 when a number of phone have an 8. Also disappointed that there's no flash. Impressed that the screen will be bigger and I'm okay to part with the keyboard as long as the on-screen keyboard is accurate. I've loved my G1 but have recently become very disappointed with the number of apps I'm UNable to download because I run out of memory. If that issue is fixed on the G2 I'll be happy. I've been contemplated ridding myself of T-Mobile only because of the lack of great phones. I have no complaint with service or customer service but would like to see some better phones. I was all about getting and HD2 until I realized it was not carrying the android market. I would like to see more from T-Mobile.

idinga said:
I agree with most of what you said. I got a text from T-Mobile this morning saying the G2 was coming. So I get on the net to check out their own website, it wasn't working. So I search the net to find out anything about it and doesn't appear to be much better. They've increased the megapixels on the camera but only to a 5 when a number of phone have an 8. Also disappointed that there's no flash. Impressed that the screen will be bigger and I'm okay to part with the keyboard as long as the on-screen keyboard is accurate. I've loved my G1 but have recently become very disappointed with the number of apps I'm UNable to download because I run out of memory. If that issue is fixed on the G2 I'll be happy. I've been contemplated ridding myself of T-Mobile only because of the lack of great phones. I have no complaint with service or customer service but would like to see some better phones. I was all about getting and HD2 until I realized it was not carrying the android market. I would like to see more from T-Mobile.
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Try the vibrant or the mytouch slide. I'm using the vibrant And its the bomb!
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It's nice having a truly capable phone after using a g1 for so long aye...
Sent from my phone.

Look, I recently brought a Slide...but im now selling it on ebay and ill save that money for a G2...Ill be goning back to my G1 for now while I wait for the G2 or maybe Mytouch HD to come out. Which ever one comes out first.And im not selling the slide cause its bad or anything, just want something that will last 2yrs. Dont get me wrong the phone is incredible, everything opens so quickly and smoothly all the time. Battery life is good for me too,and i love the design...but i want a phone that will lack support, which i feel this will have too.

If u like the slide out keyboard I would wait for the g2 nice screen size and specs
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Personally, I'll be moving to Sprint and getting the Epic 4G. It's available on Amazon for $200 right now, and that price is sure to fall.

[Q] how is it, g2 owners?

Hey guys!!!
I'm just wondering what you all think of the g2. I played with the MT4G, and I like it. However, with gingerbread proally coming out soon (PROBABLY) , that'll slow updates, for the MT right? I like the keyboard on the G2 though.
I use facebook a lot
I text a lot
I like more customization
i'll probably root, overclock, and flash a custom rom when a lot of them become available.
mySense seems allright!
What phone should I get, and how do you like it?
I'm also worried that it's been a few months since it came out, and its not even at the front at my store anymore. I don't want to sign a contract and want another one before 3 months.
thanks!

I'm loving it right now and I haven't even rooted it yet. The keyboard is what sold it over the mytouch though. I'm kinda waiting for gingerbread before I go ahead and root. The hinge might turn you away though. It's not too bad on mine but some others at the store were petty bad.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

thanks for your speedy reply!
haha thanks! well, i like it. i just am deciding if i like mysense, and if its worth losing that amazing keyboard. though the screen is only .1 inch smaller, the mytouch screen seems way bigger! i like it in my hand.
you said the hinge wasnt that bad? the one i played with was really sturdy. i see how it could become loose though.

By the way its not "mySense" it's called "expresso" and it's pretty much just a nasty version of HTC Sense.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

oh, thats interesting! your probably right, but why is it called my'Sense on the forums? so its espresso?! okay. thanks!
anyway, how do you like your g2?

If you're going to root anyways, it's up to you what phone you like best. Gingerbread will probably end up merged into CM and CM is being ported to the MT4G.

You know what's good? You can make it look exactly like mt4g with 1.8mhz overclock.
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I just purchased my G2 yesterday and so far am liking it very much, don't think I'll root it
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I am very fond of my G2 and may elope to Las Vegas with it.

Bizz08 said:
I just purchased my G2 yesterday and so far am liking it very much, don't think I'll root it
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What's your P/N? is hinge loose?

Gps and a-Gps is the main factor for me
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I will NEVER own another piece of MyTouch garbage! Tmobile says the mytouch line is their flagship of phones, what a joke! If you buy the MT4G, you'll get updates a year or two later.
Besides the G2 is by far a better phone. Yes, I have used both including a nexus one and I feel IMO, the G2 is a better quality, built better and looks 100% better than the plastic MyTouch line.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I'm totally in love with my G2.. people told me that since i had never had an android phone that I'd want to get something more user friendly like the mytouch's mysense ui, but i like stock android and i don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. The hinge on mine is pretty sturdy so i have no complaints
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mt4g looks like a cheap kids toy/ fake wanabe i-phone with crap sense- everything from the advertising to the appearance of it is repulsive (to me) the specs are awesome though. G4 is a worthy sucessor to the G1, in a class by itself, and i agree with the reviews about it having that "luxury car" feel. do what I did, get a g4, perm root it and put the real z sense rom on it, i'm sooo happy. iv had MANY phones, love the google integation, free gps!! this phone feels anything but cheap. as far as samsung goes, i'll reserve my comments, i just wish they would stick to making tv's

My girlfriend is getting jealous of my G2..She's just mad that she can't hold my attention in the same way it can...its Glorious!
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I love mind and can't wait to get my replacement. Hoping my sd card doesn't kick me off after trying to install an app with the replacement.
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G2's awesome, absolutely love it, and I'd dare say it's one of the best android phones out on the market right now and will be getting official updates long before phones with loloverlays.
That being said, if Sense is your thing, get the G2 anyway and flash any of the Desire Z sense-based roms floating in the dev section. Sense 2 > that espresso garbage on the mytouch line (and it's fast on this phone, which was nice).

I haven't had any experience with the MT 4G. But I can say the G4 is awesome. Could not be happier with it. I don't plan to root because I feel temp root is enough for my uses. But now that we have perm root it opens up so many options.
The only gripe I have with it is a slight discoloration of the soft molded plastic parts. But I don't know if everyone is experiencing this. I bought a case so don't notice any more.
I was one of the ones that had no issues from the very beginning. My hinge is decent and has never caused a problem. No random reboots etc.
Hope this helps.
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I love my g2 its awesome,very heavy like it should weight,looks proffesional and nice.moved to it from a vibrant which I didn't like.you'll love it,I'm getting used to the keyboard,first timer
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Mixed Feelings
The G2 is an absolutely fantastic phone when it has strong signal or WiFi. Since the OTA, it has been stable & the memory (despite being less than 1/2 of that advertised) feels limitless.
However, the G2 behaves like a screaming 2 year old when signal is low. I don't know if it is T-mo or the phone or some combination. Apps start crashing, phone long pauses, wild fluctuations of the signal meter. It becomes absolutely unbearable. My problem is that both office and home seem to qualify as "low signal areas" - despite sometimes showing "3 bars".
If you buy it, take it on some very critical trial runs in the first 2 weeks to be absolutely sure that it will be OK in all of your stomping ground. Don't "move in" and get attached. I kept telling myself things would get better - and now I'm stuck with a very frustrating piece of hardware !

What made you choose the G2/Desire Z?

I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!
So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
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I just love it
My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone.
Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.
I wanted to stick with a qwerty.
These all made me want a Desire Z.
...and Santa brought me one... ))

I chosed da g2 after droping my mt3G on the toilet. At first I wanted the vibrant but after reading and seen pics of the g2 it was a perfect match this phone has everythig I hoped for and more rooted about 5 minutes after getting it lol
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moolash said:
My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone.
Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.
I wanted to stick with a qwerty.
These all made me want a Desire Z.
...and Santa brought me one... ))
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I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.
Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.
Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.

HTC DZ
lombardo8 said:
I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.
Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.
Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.
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I have to admit I use the qwerty keyboard less frequently on the DZ.
Reason one: it's good to type with touch input, it even support X9 in Hungarian (while the qwerty supports English only) so it completes a lot of words right.
Reason two: I donno if this is a question of getting used to it or not, but the keyboard is a lot worse than on the TP2. I wouldn't dis it, neither the hinge, cause it's not a problem either. It's just more awkward typing on it, plus special chars in hungarian work different than previously on the TP2.
I do not regret the TP2. There are soooo many advantages of the DZ and Android they make me forget the front camera, too.

It was the only decent device my carrier offered other than the SGS which suffered the all too well known corrupted SD due to samsung failure.
I was never too crazy about the keyboard, but have grown to like and use it.
I do miss the SA screen, screen dimensions, and the device dimensions, - but the usability added by sense is amazing. Plus the DZ seems to be much faster and more stable to me based purely on my own usage.

I've gone through so many phones and the g2 impressed me so much that I had to get it. And the fact that it was one of the first phone compatible with hspa.
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I'm coming from the touch pro 2. I was looking to stick with the physical keyboard and it takes a while to get to the one on the g2. I wanted a phone to have wifi calling since I do not get any service in some of my classes at college. Android apps are no iphone apps but they work. Windows mobile is highly customizable and I like being able to have the option to do so on the G2 if ever needed. I will hold on to my G2 for as long as I can or till a dual core, physical qwerty, windows phone 7 with a 4+ screen hits T-Mobile. Well a better one than the dell venue pro.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I got the G2 because I went from a Sony Ericsson as my 1st phone, Moto Razr as my 2nd, Sidekick 3 as my 3rd, Blackberry Pearl 8120 as my 4th, and G1 as my 5th.
G1 was by far my favorite phone, with the Pearl being in 2nd. I fell in love with Android, then I learned about rooting, and that was a wrap. Went from a Haykuro 1.5, to a JesusFreke 1.5, then I learned about Cyanogen. Man, oh man, were my eyes opened by the XDA community.
From the G1, the 2nd Android phone for TMO came in the form of the myTouch 3G, and I had to have it, because I had transformed into an Android fanboy. From there, I went to an HD2, for the sole fact that I hoped that Android would be ported over to it, which thankfully, is now a reality!
I switched back and forth between the HD2 and the MT3G for a while, then I stuck with the MT3G, because I wanted the genuine Android experience. I wish I bought the N1 when it first came out, but the money wasn't there, so I had to settle.
When the G2 came knocking at TMO's doorstep and I knew about phone specs now and actually saw what the G2 had, I was very impressed, and having owned its big brother, the G1, it was fate that I had to buy it.
Yes, the G2 may have some flaws like the loose hinge and less than great camera in artificial/low light conditions, but I still love this phone and would not want to trade it for an HD7, MT4G, a Galaxy S phone, or anything else offered by TMO right now.
I love this phone and I would not change my decision of purchasing it if I had the opportunity to do it all over again.
Oh, and the fact that it is the first HSPA+ phone for T-Mobile, which there is 4G in my area also is a great perk!

simple, Cyanogen has it!

dontbes said:
I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!
So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
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2 dead Galaxy S Vibrants from Bell pushed me to the Desire Z. I wish I got it in the first place.
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Groboto said:
simple, Cyanogen has it!
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That was a selling point for sure!! I started with a Samsung Moment and then A Vibrant. I changed roms like twice a day trying to find "The one". It was kinda like internet dating, lol. I had to replace one of my Vibrants and while I was waiting for the replacement they had the G2 for $0 on black Monday. The rest is history, rooted and CM6. Physically its a beautiful phone imo, though it is protected and covered with an Otterbox. Only gripe is the hinge deal, but I swype 99.9% of the time. Its just a solid phone with awesome support, yeah Cyanogen has one. I'm waiting on something Tegra 2 based to hit TMO before I get another.

I had an original MyTouch 3G, it was slow as molasses on froyo, didn't have a keyboard, and didn't have a 3.5mm jack
the G2 is the only phone released in the last 6 months that fixes these problems. Adding in the 1.7GHz(!) overclock and solid cyanogenmod support made it even better

cyanogenmod .
ahah. I bought it before I knew cyanogenmod had it.
I had the G1, and loved it. Too bad i had to return it cuz ma dad was on my ass for always being on it. what do you except? its android!
So I heard the G2 was coming out and I almost shyt my pants.
its a sexy phone. i dont mind the hinges... one thing that sucks is no front facing camera... but o well.. maybe the G3 will own?

Got a G1 shortly after launch. Tmo upgrade came along not too long ago and so did the follow up phone... the G2. Physical keyboard is a must have for me.
I can't stand a touch screen keyboard.
The new network is also a nice perk.

Let's see.....After putting almost 50 windows roms on my HD2 and of course some Android builds. I realized the phone was getting boring by the day. I missed having a physical keyboard...better apps of course, faster speeds,and better battery life.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I wanted a good phone (better than my old omnia) with a working keyboard for which i would not pay much.
I could get a motorola flipout (found it was a poor phone), an xperia x10 mini pro (it would have been good, provided the battery was not that fast empty and unremovable), or some blackberrys with small screens. I would have had to pay more than 400$ for every interesting phone with a nice screen and a keyboard.
Then, virgin mobile made a flash offer on the desire Z. I had to pay around 80$, which was nice, and a sub 40$/month service including unlimited-yet-not-that-much-unlimited internet, unlimited texts and 2hrs/month .
So i got it. Quite impressed by it actually, worth more than what i actually thought, especially now that i know debian can be installed on it
i am new to android, i had an omnia before. The improvement in feeling is huge, but i feel quite concerned about new phones. With windows phone 6.1 i could do what i wanted on it, no need to hack around to install apps that require some special hardware access or root access and so on. I did not have to install a file browser either...
I just hope phone OS designers would stop trying to limit phone usage. Anyway they currently have not succeeded, so thats fine

Simple its indestructible..
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I used to be a hard core crackberry user. My first android was the MT3G- loved it, but just couldn't get used to the touchscreen keyboard while also using a BB. (didn't care much for the iphone- my 5 year old uses it now)
When the HD2 came out, I'm glad I got it asap! The hardware was what made me want it badly.. The screen size was perfect for the onscreen kb, and it was even better when we could run android.. but I got sick of being annoyed on a daily basis. And I suffered from keyboard envy.
I was going to hold out on upgrading until Spring, as I usually did, and had been following the G2 forums since the release. Early December TMo offered me BOGO if we switched back to a contract... I couldn't refuse, and a sexy G2 arrived days later.
I love it. I was concerned with giving up screen real estate, but that quickly passed. My only issue is signal strength- I only get G where I live but forced into an unlimited 4G plan though I'm always on wifi, and the "partner service" doesn't seem to work. No faults of the G2- TMo needs to get their services straight.
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cuz it was called G2, and everyone knew it was gonna be good.

Newb coming from TP2 versus myt4g and modding

Hey members,
Newb here to the forums and wanting to get regular with posting and such. I was on sprint users and have moved over to tmobile on a family plan and signed up during the FREE PROMOTION. I got 3 lines for Wife, MIL, and Me. We went with 2 my touch 4g for the ladies and I picked up the G2.
I was really sad to see that rooting would be very tricky using ADB compared to EVO like my brothers. I found a quick and easy method using terminal and preset images. I loaded up nightly build for cyanogen vision build 37. Overclock to 1.3ghz and using 1500mhz EVO battery modded. I plan to pick up a mugen battery but wanted to use what i had lying around the house for Sh*ts and giggles.
I have 12 more days left to swap out for any other model in store and only thing that looked decent was mytouch4g. With the latest roms and slight overclock i am happy with performance and build quality (wish hinges were slight bit stronger and held in place). Should I bother looking at any other models in the next 12 days. Seems like all the next gen phones will be out in next 2-4 months and the deal i got was really nice. I paid $100 up front for each phones and with that we got free accessories, 15% off monthly bill and free activation. The kicker is we get $200 back in mail in rebate per phone so that should help with modding costs
Any recommendations at all on MIUI rom versus a decent Cyanogen rom that i should try next or any other rom for that matter. I was very glad that with those 4 links i was able to be up and running in matter of couple hours and was able to spend the rest of my time with baby boi versus ADB
thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906590
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
vision nightly build 37
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=vision

I have both the G2 and the MT4G. Both are amazing phones with excellent hardware (minus them stupid hinges). Right now the mytouch is my weapon of choice, but it took a long time for that to happen. I still use my G2 here and there. Both are rooted with Cyanogen nightlys. My best advice to you would be play with your wifes phone here and there. do some comparisons of what you like to do with the phones. One major factor is ffc vs real keyboard. Personally I would pick the keyboard cause I don't know many people who really are gonna get that much use outta the ffc. I mean its cool but how often is it really goin to get used. The reason I am using the mytouch though is because of it's 768(or something like that) RAM. G2 comes with only 512(I believe). This offers more more functionality for what I like to do with my phones and its future. It is a very tough decision, and good luck with whichever you choose.
On a side note, I am somewhat disappointed in the G2 only because the G1 was so iconic and the G2 just seems like a semi-improved nexus1. Plus the G1 was a class of it's own whereas the G2 has a twin called the desire z. A phone with that type of history/background should be another single Icon. This is just my opinion though. The phone is great for what it is.

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I have both the G2 and the MT4G. Both are amazing phones with excellent hardware (minus them stupid hinges). Right now the mytouch is my weapon of choice, but it took a long time for that to happen. I still use my G2 here and there. Both are rooted with Cyanogen nightlys. My best advice to you would be play with your wifes phone here and there. do some comparisons of what you like to do with the phones. One major factor is ffc vs real keyboard. Personally I would pick the keyboard cause I don't know many people who really are gonna get that much use outta the ffc. I mean its cool but how often is it really goin to get used. The reason I am using the mytouch though is because of it's 768(or something like that) RAM. G2 comes with only 512(I believe). This offers more more functionality for what I like to do with my phones and its future. It is a very tough decision, and good luck with whichever you choose.
On a side note, I am somewhat disappointed in the G2 only because the G1 was so iconic and the G2 just seems like a semi-improved nexus1. Plus the G1 was a class of it's own whereas the G2 has a twin called the desire z. A phone with that type of history/background should be another single Icon. This is just my opinion though. The phone is great for what it is.
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I would like to correct your g1 statement the g1 is actually a triplet having the dev 1(android site) and the htc dream(Europe)http://mobilenewz.net/2009/02/google-blocking-paid-market-apps-from-dev-phone-1-users/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream
but then again the G2 and Dezire z are like good twin and bad twin (hence Stock and Sense)

I love my g2 except for my first one had a busted hinge and the replacement they sent the phone wouldn't stay shut. It had the loosest hinge.
My case I got the g2 for a business device because I email a lot and wanted a physical kb (and not the limitations of a blackberry) but I now worry about my 3rd replacement being a possible dud too. I guess ill wait and see.
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@TakoLuffer Thanks for the correction. Although I still feel that the G2 is a little disappointing. But that is just my 2 cents. It is a great phone, don't get me wrong. To me it just seems it comes up short to what it could/should have been.

[Q] Would you still buy a Samsung Epic 4G?

My wife due for a new phone. She has a HTC Touch Pro 2 now.
Would you still buy a Samsung Epic 4G or wait for something else? Here's the hitch, she loves the keyboard so... she wants a phone with a keyboard.
I've read the HTC EVO shift is not that great and the screen is smaller. That's why I was leaning toward the Epic 4G
Any suggestions would help. I know the Epic 4G is getting old and don't want her to get stuck with an older phone if a newer, better one is coming out soon.
p.s. Android phones only please. (I don't see Windows making it!)

The only thing better is the dual core, but then you get to go through all the development cycle again. Depends on whether you want stability or raw fracking power tech.
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Thanks!
She will be keeping the phone with the stock rom.
I think it will be fast enough for her. She just uses it for internet, youtube, texting, emails. Nothing too major.

Yes if it for an everyday user it the perfect phone! Beautiful screen and super fast for an everyday user!
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I would hold off and wait, the new phones are coming soon. You might find something you like better, if not then you could always get the epic then for less probably.
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Well, if you want her to be involved in the latest tech, I'd wait a bit until there's a phone that's dual-core and has a keyboard. Unfortunately, I haven't heard anything coming soon like that, so it's your choice.
For her basic uses and stuff, she might want to wait only because the keyboard on this phone is a bit laggy in its current state.
If she's okay with that, then buy an Epic It's still a great phone.

Yea as long as she doesn't mind a little wobble here and there on her phone...

i personally would just get the nexus! its a google phone so you know it will be supported by devs and google themselves
edit: nvm i didnt see the part that said she likes the keyboard
just go with the epic
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Absolutely! I've loved my device and I'm itching for my new one. Developing on it has been rewarding, and all the missed sleep has been worth it.

I went from the tp2 to the Epic and I don't how to say it in nice words. I had the tp2 for 1 1/2 years and if I had know how good android was compared to winmo 6.5 I would have thrown that thing in a lake. Going to the epic felt like going from a 486 dx2-66 to a quad core computer. IMOP the tp2 was the worst touch phone I have ever owned. If she is like my wife and just wants a nice phone that works and no modding then I would get the epic now. Everything on it is allmost instant when touched and I have not had any keyboard issues at all.
My epic is stock rom and rooted no custom roms. have had it for 6 months and only locked up twice so far where I had to pull the battery.
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minics04 said:
My wife due for a new phone. She has a HTC Touch Pro 2 now.
Would you still buy a Samsung Epic 4G or wait for something else? Here's the hitch, she loves the keyboard so... she wants a phone with a keyboard.
I've read the HTC EVO shift is not that great and the screen is smaller. That's why I was leaning toward the Epic 4G
Any suggestions would help. I know the Epic 4G is getting old and don't want her to get stuck with an older phone if a newer, better one is coming out soon.
p.s. Android phones only please. (I don't see Windows making it!)
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I just ordered my wife one a couple of days ago. Will be ordering my daughter one also.
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The keyboard has issues with skipping letters, which makes it very difficult to type fast on, and there's a slight wobble when open (nothing drastic).
I would definitely factor in software support too, which is severely lacking with the Epic 4G. You have to consider all the bug/security/critical fixes that are a significant part of the updates. I, personally, have been having software issues from the DK28 leak to EC05, Eclair was the only one that was every completely stable for me.

for 19.99 hell yea.
i love my epic, but ive recently played around with a mytouch 4g and that thing is blazing quick and snappy. everyone here says the epic is the quickest and best non dual-core phone (and i trust them since they know more than me), but i feel that phone is more responsive. it's stock and so is mine. its running adw like my epic. why do you guys think the mytouch runs much smoother?

What kind of software problems do you have? I have seen very little on my end. Confuses me on xda where some say there are a lot of problems and some have very few to all most no problems. I type very fast on my keyboard and it never skips a beat.
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Especially now that it comes with Froyo, an Epic is a no-brainer for these prices. I paid many times more and coming from an original Touch Pro, it was like going from a Dodge Dart hooptie to a Lamborghini.

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Especially now that it comes with Froyo
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Are you sure it comes with Froyo? I'm helping someone pick out a phone, and this person, like the OP's wife, will be using it completely stock and unrooted. I can't find the details on sprint.com either way, but Best Buy and Radio Shack both say 2.1 in their specs about the phone. I heard there were problems with the updates, so I'm not sure at all that it comes with 2.2, and that's a real consideration for someone who will be running this stock, I think.

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Are you sure it comes with Froyo? I'm helping someone pick out a phone, and this person, like the OP's wife, will be using it completely stock and unrooted. I can't find the details on sprint.com either way, but Best Buy and Radio Shack both say 2.1 in their specs about the phone. I heard there were problems with the updates, so I'm not sure at all that it comes with 2.2, and that's a real consideration for someone who will be running this stock, I think.
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I can only go by what I saw in a local Sprint store. I would hope that they would have all their stock replaced with 2.2 versions out of the box, but even if they don't, a stock 2.1 phone should receive the 2.2 upgrade over the air fairly quick. I'd just advise trying to get it updated before installing much else on it. The latest Froyo is as official as it gets and is pushed everywhere to phones which can receive it, AFAIK.

i also came from a touch pro 2 and i was amazed how good the EPIC was I think it's a great phone. Plus radiosack.com has the epic for $19.99 with a new contract and $49 upgrade. That's a steal. I like the phone so much(and hated att service so much) the price drop doesn't even bother me. The last 6 months was worth the launch price.

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Plus radiosack.com has the epic for $19.99 with a new contract
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Oh my, thanks for that. We can't pass that up (totally new contract). If it doesn't have 2.2, I'll just go ahead and root it and put Syndicate on it.
With regard to the question the OP asked, I suppose my answer is that, yes, I would buy another Epic, at least right now. I've looked around at what Sprint currently has, and there's nothing I'd rather have than the Epic. The keyboard doesn't mean as much to me as I thought it would, but I'd still prefer the Epic to the Evo. I'm not sure the upcoming Nexus S is much better than the Epic. Now, once the Evo 3D comes out, that might be something to look at, but that's months away. I have no plans or desires to switch phones, but have been looking a lot to help someone else, and I'm glad that I discovered that the Epic is still the phone to get if you're tied to Sprint (company discount).

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Oh my, thanks for that. We can't pass that up (totally new contract). If it doesn't have 2.2, I'll just go ahead and root it and put Syndicate on it.
With regard to the question the OP asked, I suppose my answer is that, yes, I would buy another Epic, at least right now. I've looked around at what Sprint currently has, and there's nothing I'd rather have than the Epic. The keyboard doesn't mean as much to me as I thought it would, but I'd still prefer the Epic to the Evo. I'm not sure the upcoming Nexus S is much better than the Epic. Now, once the Evo 3D comes out, that might be something to look at, but that's months away. I have no plans or desires to switch phones, but have been looking a lot to help someone else, and I'm glad that I discovered that the Epic is still the phone to get if you're tied to Sprint (company discount).
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If the keyboard doesn't mean that much to you, you might as well wait little over a week for the nexus, for the better form factor alone. I guess you're weighing price vs size & software support, all other things being almost equal.