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Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?
I've been wanting to know this myself. I hit 1900 on quadrant yesterday and 44.6 mflops on linpack. Am I supposed to believe that my HD2 can absolutely murder a stock nexus one on froyo while running a work-in-progress android build off an SD card?
With what rom/android build combo did you get 1900? I don't get higher than 1550. Shubcraft 1.4d r8 kernel with energy basic rom.
12.50 radio iirc.
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Machiel187 said:
With what rom/android build combo did you get 1900? I don't get higher than 1550. Shubcraft 1.4d r8 kernel with energy basic rom.
12.50 radio iirc.
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Energy Dinik glass winmo rom
Shubcraft 1.4d with R8 running at 1.19 Ghz
Radio 2.10.50.26
I don't consistently get 1900 though. I get anywhere from 1600-1900ish.
Try settings setcpu to performance mode and push to 1190 Mhz if you can and close all your apps. You should be able to get the same. Some other users here know some additional tweaks and they are able to break 1900 even without overclocking so high.
Managed to get to 1657 already with the performance mode on. Curious about those tweaks. Isnt there a tool like the bsb tweaks for winmo?
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Got the highest Quadrant score yet running Energy Standard Aug. 18 ROM and mattc LeoNexus with TouchWiz: 1527 - I haven't installed setCPU either.
Some high scores here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754675&highlight=quadrant
i dont understand whats this about , because its not about devlopment ....general thread
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Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?
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You should take a look at the evo 4g scores.Custom roms are pushing their scores over 2300.
Go to bad man, the benchmark doesn't matter
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miclaus_man said:
Go to bad man, the benchmark doesn't matter
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exactly but not so brash
It's because we're comparing against stock benchmarks.
The vibrant should be benchmarking best if it's running froyo and overclocked I think.
The only reason nexus one scores high is that froyo does a wayyyy better job of utilizing the cpu.
From what I understand, the motorola and hummingbird samsung processors actually have better gpus so they would bench better with froyo.
Just remember, we're overclocking Running custom builds, stock is always gonna be slower.
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Just installed setCPU and achieved a score of 1700.
lemonspeakers said:
Why is it that when we bench Android HD2 vs other phones, our scores come out superior or near superior?
I've seen scores that have reached hundreds ahead the nexus one froyo (OC and Not)
I mean, we are using builds off the SD card.
Does that mean, if we get NAND support, android on our HD2 will be absolutely blazing fast?
Or does it mean that our quadrant scores are all wrong considering that we can only run android off SD?
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We get the scores we do due to the I/O performance being off down to running off the SD card.
This my setup running like for like against a Nexus One, as you can see we're almost identical in all departments except the I/O Performance.
See Screenshot.
Phil
kerman19 said:
We get the scores we do due to the I/O performance being off down to running off the SD card.
This my setup running like for like against a Nexus One, as you can see we're almost identical in all departments except the I/O Performance.
See Screenshot.
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Uh. Bigger bars = better, right? If so, that screenshot says the I/O on your HD2 is better than every phone listed there except for the Droid X. How can that be?
Those are all stock comparations.
My brother just got a Samsung Galaxy s i9000 and we bechmark it and it gave us only around 800 after a root is device and installed the samsung lag fix it went straight to 2200+ still running the stock rom thats 3x faster then it was before the system was touched with any fixes.
So i say if you score around 1000+ running from a SD card with out overclock on the HD2 its pretty good and reaching 1400+ thats even great. In what i can see is if we get android running from or NAND we can easy reach 2200+.
So when you comparing the benchmarks its only comparing with the stock you can expect too double the stock benchmarks if not triple it too see how you device realy compare too others .
Why does the droid x have such high I/O scores?
Installed a fresh mattc LeoNexus using only the stock launcher. I installed setCPU and adjusted settings according to the ones from starbase64 here
I achieved a score of 2185.
MartyLK said:
Just installed setCPU and achieved a score of 1700.
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Do you think you can post the setcpu.txt for achieving this score?
thanks =)
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Installed a fresh mattc LeoNexus using only the stock launcher. I installed setCPU and adjusted settings according to the ones from starbase64 here
I achieved a score of 2185.
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Gah! someone beat me to the 2k barrier.... i got 1960 the other day, trying to reproduce..
Ok, so wen I had the n1 and the evo flashing a 2.2 based rom ment 2-3 times the quadrant scores over a 2.1 based rom, but on my new fangled droid x my score only went up a hundred points or so. Is there that much of difference between the 45nm omaps n the older snapdragon? Or is the moto 2.2 leak for the x crippled some how? Perhaps w/out JIT? Is there word as to why we get jipped on cpu speed increases?
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Find a way to flash custom roms. Then you'll see them jump. Until then, the stock kernal says, NO FU I TAKE MY TIME.
Quadrant is only a number and 1800-2200 is plenty high enough for me. It's not even remotely accurate or correct as far as judging processor speed lol.
If i remember right the leaked 2.2 for droid x doesn't have the JIT complier so we wont really see that big of a jump in those scores like you did with the N1 and Evo
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If i remember right the leaked 2.2 for droid x doesn't have the JIT complier so we wont really see that big of a jump in those scores like you did with the N1 and Evo
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Wrong. The leaked 2.2 doesn't have Stagefright enabled by default because videos will fail to play back. It definitely has JIT.
Well i have quadrant advanced wich breaks the scores down by section and the snapdragon has its cpu score triple because of jit where as the omap only gets a slight jump, so does this mean we aren't getting jit to function properly or what?
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The 2d 3d memory and i/o scores stay the same on both from 2.1 to 2.2 its just cpu that makes the snapdragon jump so drastically so id have to agree that it doest look like we got jit in the leaked 2.2 update and all the roms based on it. Or at the very least. Snapdragon makes much better use of it than the 45nm omap
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From what we've been told, this was one of the earliest releases of froyo for the Droid X... the Official Droid X Froyo release is a good 2 or 3 updates ahead of what we have available now.. its very possible that in its very early alpha stages (what we have) that JIT wasent activated then.. and when the legit release comes out in its final stage, it will have everything going
We will see when the ota comes out. I wont know if I will go through with the hassel intill I know that it can be rooted and and have recovery installed.
The snapdragon has 128 bit NEON/VFP registers with floating point hardware acceleration. The omap has 64 bit NEON/VFP registers. You will not see the same boost in quadrant\linpack like the snapdragon gets with 2.2.
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The snapdragon has 128 bit NEON/VFP registers with floating point hardware acceleration. The omap has 64 bit NEON/VFP registers. You will not see the same boost in quadrant\linpack like the snapdragon gets with 2.2.
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ok im by no means an idiot when it comes to computers but that one went over my head. lol
So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
avenger213 said:
So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
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I may be wrong but quadrant:
1) Isn't the best way to base performance
2) Doesn't really show improvements that JIT provides
Download linpack if you want and your score should be around a 14 or so, compared to the 8.5-9 on 2.1
Quadrant isn't a real life benchmark, and is highly flawed. Check out Quantum's "warp speed edition" ROM for proof.
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I got 1205 with stock dk28 but I have noticed others reporting lower scores. Variability in testing with a bad benchmark perhaps?
I've got 1839 lol... For some reason I doubt that's accurate
I did a quadrant test with a stock epic 2.1 and an epic on dk28 and the scores were pretty much the same every time. The major difference was that the Froyo epic ran the cpu benchmarks much faster but hung during the first I/O test. The 2.1 epic ran everything about the same speed and completed the whole test much faster than the froyo epic.
I also noticed this and posted in another thread...
to quote myself
I was getting around 8.3xx in 2.1, and now I'm getting 13.7xx in 2.2.
(I used the 1506bdf2e04b.update-SPH-D700_DI18ToDK28.zip renamed to update.zip method.)
Saw a video the other day showing a nexus 1 scoring 20+ on 1st run and 40+ on 2nd.. My friends Evo (with 2.2) scored @ 38 or so..
Quadrant still shows me well under all of the 2.2+ phones listed.
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I expected a bit more of an increase..
I too am wondering if the JIT was left out of our Froyo (if that's even possible, I'm still a total nube to andriod stuff).
What exactly is JIT, does it speed the phone up?
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Just In Time compiling...
From what I know about .Net (I'm a C# coder), it allows for compilation of the app for the specific CPU during the 1st run.
Someone please correct me if this differes from andriod's JIT...
the epic has fast computation hw between the cpu and gpu, it could be the case that the JIT benefit doesn't show in the benchmark margins.
the device is a fast one, all compared.
What rom has the highest quad score for the vibrant?
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Depends on many factors, not just the rom. There's also the Kernel, OCing, UVing and even the launcher.
Highest I have had without an overclock was 2456, and that was on Simply Galaxy v3 RC3 (Port from i9000) with all the tweaks engaged. It was very very fast. Faster than any other ROM I have used, even with overclock. Hell, if I could OC with that ROM I would bet that I could break 3000+ quads easy. But quads are worthless. You just have to try using the phone with the speed of that ROM. I didn't know the vibrant could be that fast.
Running Trigger right now. Get anywhere from 1400-1600. Runs ok. Was just wondering what some of the other Rome were capable of. How is the Simply Galaxy rom? I personally don't know anyone who has used it.
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2750 Quadrant.
Darky 9.5 Froyo 2.2.1 base rom, 1.48Ghz Bullet Kernel linked in my sig.
Phone is FLYIN. Gingerbread 2.3.3 builds can go higher (but have bugs).
I got a Quadrant of 3300.....!!
I was using my TI-83 calculator with a tic-tac stuck in the DC in slot!
2000 flat w/ bi winning V2 no OC w/ voodoo. VERY FAST though. Quadrant doesn't give it justice.
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2750 Quadrant.
Darky 9.5 Froyo 2.2.1 base rom, 1.48Ghz Bullet Kernel linked in my sig.
Phone is FLYIN. Gingerbread 2.3.3 builds can go higher (but have bugs).
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I get the same on darkys rom
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Quads dont mean anything.
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I have a 3500 quadrant. On top of that, my battery increases 2% every hour as a result.
I'm running Android 3.3 on mine. 4700 quadrant score and when I plug my usb up to my laptop the phone charges it.
5000 with a V8 hemi under the hood!
With the battery in, I get around 16K but I only get 8K if I take the battery out.
I'm using the FBS ROM.
Speaking of Quadrant...It sucks
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Speaking of Quadrant...It sucks
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I second this.
So useless of an app, it has nothing to do with the actually smoothness and snapyness in any phone. Sometimes I feel it's scores are the other way around, the lowest you get the better your phone is
I'm a total lurker, but after "bricking" my vibrant about 3 weeks after getting it home last Fall and discovering the fix here, I've been tweaking, wiping, flashing, odining, and having a helluva lot of fun with it. I'll probably betray myself as still being a noob, but I see everyone kind of poo-pooing Quadrant as meaningless (and other benchmarks, it seems). Is there any objective measurement that you guys consider worthwhile?
I thought I was all hot **** for breaking the 2K mark, but I guess none of that matters?
Trigger 3.2 with Bullet 1.42...just added bullet, so currently OC'd to 1.2 while I get a feel for what the phone can handle.
anthonys2r said:
I have a 3500 quadrant. On top of that, my battery increases 2% every hour as a result.
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What are you currently on and what kernel are you using?
test4vibrant said:
What are you currently on and what kernel are you using?
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He was obviously being sarcastic. Can't believe someone fell for the increasing battery **** LOL.
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On Biwinning with o.c. I am getting 2580 ....... but it does not perform ant better than leaving the clock @ 1000 so I leave unclocked ......... I get great battery life then...........
Quadrant is amusing...
but it's not always telling of how a rom actually performs. Back in the day when we were using the OCLF, quad scrores were in the 2k range and that was with 2.1
That being said, I felt compelled to post this anyway, mainly just to show the cpu score improvement that we get with gingerbread. My phone was running Cyanogenmod7 at stock speeds. Comparing quadrant scores between roms that are all based off of each other is pointless.
The 1815 score is from CM7
The 1755 score is from MIUI
MIUI performs great, but it's not as buttery smooth as CM7. But from the two scores you wouldn't see that. More importantly I think this also lends to what I said about comparing two scores between roms that are based off of each other.
Before I state my point, I just need to clarify that I have been on various Froyo/Gingerbread ROMs.
Anyway, I have reviewed many Androids before, including the SE Xperia X10 mini, X8, Samsung Galaxy 5, Samsung Galaxy Mini.
What I have come to realize is that my Wildfire is incomparable to ANY of these old models. No matter what I do, install OpenFire fresh/CM7 fresh, overclock, uninstall & wipe stock apps... the phone is NEVER as fast as ANY of the phones mentioned above.
Is there any way to alleviate this, or is it that the 528MHz processor is the weak link in this phone?
Would really love input from fellow forumers. Thanks.
Wildfire has an older CPU architecture and an older non-gpu chipset, both of which are important factors for the performance.
And we cannot do anything other than overclocking to max (which also don't make it fast enough). Wildfire is already outdated.
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bharatgaddameedi said:
Wildfire has an older CPU architecture and an older non-gpu chipset, both of which are important factors for the performance.
And we cannot do anything other than overclocking to max (which also don't make it fast enough). Wildfire is already outdated.
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I do know that. Thanks for the input btw. IMHO when overclocked, all it does is boost performance unnecessarily. I see little to no change in speed, sometimes even smoother when I reduce the clock speed.
I guess this just calls for a new phone soon.
What did i do to make it faster..
Back to android 2.1 stock rom (extracted rom.zip from 2.1 wwe ruu, installed with pc49img.zip)
Root the rom with superoneclick
Fastboot flashed cwm 2.5.0.7 recovery
Flashed nfinity mc4 kernel
Overclocked 480 - 710 mhz @ smartass governor
Its very fast and snappy, try it, i wont be changing roms for a long time, if we dont get ice cream sandwich when its out, ill never change it.
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