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How much 3G/GSM Traffic do you generate

I don't own an Andorid phone yet. And from what I was reading thus far, it seems that android and its apps generate quite a lot more data-traffic than a 'plain ol' WinMo device used for some e-mail and calendar sync.
Now since in Switzerland unlimited GSM data contracts are way too expensive, I am looking for a 100-250megs/month plan but am not sure at all if this will be sufficient for daily use.
What is your guess, except Webbrowsing, how much traffic do you generate a month?

my phone is my laptop replacement, and my business is online, everything is online, i'll die without the internet

i tether to my laptop and use it to browse the web in the evenings 4-5 hours per, 6-7 days per week
i've been monitoring my data usage on my account at Tmobile's web and it hit low 6 GBs the two months i used it to view quite a bit on youtube
months that i didn't, 2.8 to 3.5 GB a month
that's also sending/reading emails from my laptop
that was with a MyTouch 3G - this Vibrant's download speeds are faster so i expect those numbers will go up in the coming months

jeeez, i guess i'm screwed with my 100-250megs...

if you're not talking about browsing etc, just emails/texting etc that about might be just fine
remember, i said i use it for browsing 6-7 times a week, 4-5 hours per night
i'm on a Tmo unlimited data plan (that apparently actually has either a 5GB or 10GB ceiling - but that's surprising about switzerland - it's been a couple years since i've been there but it used to surpise me how cheap communications was there
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larryccf said:
i'm on a Tmo unlimited data plan (that apparently actually has either a 5GB or 10GB ceiling - but that's surprising about switzerland - it's been a couple years since i've been there but it used to surpise me how cheap communications was there
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seems like switzerland didn't keep up with the rest of the world in terms of communication fees. a 250megs plan costs about 50$ - with no telephony or texting discounts at all. an unlimited plan is about 160$ - and you actually get capped on your speed after reaching 2gb...
well well well

I usually don't even bother changing to WiFi when I'm at home, so almost all the data traffic goes over the mobile network, and I usually end up in the 500MB -> 1GB range.
If you just make sure to install and update apps, and do large data transfers while you have a WiFi network available, 250MB should be more than enough.
My GF has a 500MB plan and she has never even been close to going over the limit.

karmakuma said:
seems like switzerland didn't keep up with the rest of the world in terms of communication fees. a 250megs plan costs about 50$ - with no telephony or texting discounts at all. an unlimited plan is about 160$ - and you actually get capped on your speed after reaching 2gb...
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Korea is about to switch to a plan with unlimited data on about $40 USD plan that includes free incoming calls/text along with free minutes and texts for outgoing communicatoin.
igniztion said:
I usually don't even bother changing to WiFi when I'm at home, so almost all the data traffic goes over the mobile network, and I usually end up in the 500MB -> 1GB range.
If you just make sure to install and update apps, and do large data transfers while you have a WiFi network available, 250MB should be more than enough.
My GF has a 500MB plan and she has never even been close to going over the limit.
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I'd probably switch for the enhanced speed and better battery, though I've lived without wifi on 2G speeds. When I had the original iPhone which was edge, I rarely switched over to WiFi because I knew my battery life went down when using wi-fi but didn't actually know that my battery life went down even more when surfing on 2G.

Here in Finland Saunalahti offers a data package with (supposedly) unlimited speeds and quota. I haven't used my galaxy for a month but I think I should end up using 3-5gigs of data.
Edit: forgot to bragg about the price, which is 14eur/month
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rkantos said:
Here in Finland Saunalahti offers a data package with (supposedly) unlimited speeds and quota. I haven't used my galaxy for a month but I think I should end up using 3-5gigs of data.
Edit: forgot to bragg about the price, which is 14eur/month
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Does that mean it's faster than super warp speed?

rkantos said:
Here in Finland Saunalahti offers a data package with (supposedly) unlimited speeds and quota. I haven't used my galaxy for a month but I think I should end up using 3-5gigs of data.
Edit: forgot to bragg about the price, which is 14eur/month
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yaya keep on braggin
hope one day we will end up with fees like that as well... ...but thats a long way to go i gues

250 MByte for sure will be enough if you just send/check mails (including attachements) and surf the web for news. You can download apps and watch youtube at home or in a restaurant where there is wifi.
I have a plan for 250 MByte myself and it works out pretty well.

vengador said:
250 MByte for sure will be enough if you just send/check mails (including attachements) and surf the web for news. You can download apps and watch youtube at home or in a restaurant where there is wifi.
I have a plan for 250 MByte myself and it works out pretty well.
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that sounds promising... in that case i think i will not have to worry. though when i look at the poll results, it seems that there are quite som data-junkies out there
but you know, i'm no different myself - but over cable instead

don't worry you should be fine.
I just happen to be internet adicted
got 3 different broadband ISP at home on a cisco balancer for redundancy and load balancing.
same reason why in need 2 cell phones HSPDA capable that works just as fast as my computer home computer for when i'm on the move.

Bell is charging me $500 per day for this phone

Well, on release date I ran to the bell store on got my new shiny galaxy s i9000m. Since then I have had my phone cut off. I called mother bell to find they think my phone has been tethered with my laptop (which was stolen last sunday ) even though I have never tethered with this phone. It seems it is logging my web surfing data properly but any data an app uses seems to be counted as out of plan tendering. Before u ask I do have an "unlimited data" plan and am keeping 3g usage well under 5gb. First is anyone else having this fight with bell and do u think it could have something to do with apn settings. My phone is not rooted (yet) as I want to leave everything stock until they fix the billing issue.
It is increasing my bill by between $200 and $500. What a joke
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this is the reason i don't want to use bell
good lord Fido, protect us all
sorry to hear that, but thanks for share, it is definitely something we should be aware of.
SGS i9000 phone is a data hungry device, specially if you have lots of sync with emails, facebook, tweet, weather, etc, etc....
but regardless of any of that, even if you go as far as backing up your ROM to an online storage, it will not consume so much data
the worst part is WTH is wrong with Bell? you got the unlimited data plan, so why the hell are they trying to charge you $500
this is ridiculous.

They think that app data on the phone is tethered data. And being that I don't have a tendering plan they are charging me $6 per mb. Nice huh. After they told me to pay and get lost twice I went to the store and had a fit. Store believed me and got hung up on when trying to fix the issue with the call center. They are escalating it but in the mean time I am accumulatING lots is coin on my bill
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I am having the very same issue as you on bell with the i9000. I am covered under the new 6GB plan but i am getting charged pay per use an well as in plan usage. I am alreeady over 100mb in pay per use (600$ i beleive) even though i never tether my phone and tethering is included anyways.... I called bell and they said i shouldnt have to worry about anything once my bill comes as it will be taken care of... i sure hope so.

d3a said:
I am having the very same issue as you on bell with the i9000. I am covered under the new 6GB plan but i am getting charged pay per use an well as in plan usage. I am alreeady over 100mb in pay per use (600$ i beleive) even though i never tether my phone and tethering is included anyways.... I called bell and they said i shouldnt have to worry about anything once my bill comes as it will be taken care of... i sure hope so.
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They are full of it. They will bill u if it is being marked as out of plan. I have a hand delivered mail from them telling me I owe $2000 for tethering . I can add your info into my general complaint if u want. Pm me and I can pass your info onto the regional manager the local store is dealing with to prove they need to fix there ****
On a side note my apn looks to be setup to use the phone for tethering and does not use the suggested nexus one apn settings again I feel that all data NOT traveling over port 80 or not travelling through the browser is being considered tethering by their proxy
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Unlimited data isn't a normal plan option so maybe they're confused. I didn't even think you could get unlimited data. I know they had unlimited mobile browsing but I would think that's just web browsing if you grandfathered that feature in.

I have a very old grandfatherd smartphone data plan. At the time they offered 500mb or unlimited. The trick is unlimited means 5gb and then they start pulling out the network abuse card to have legal course to shut down your data. Kinda like the unlimited plans in the US.
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Well, definitely keep arguing with them, but unless your plan is godly you can also grab 6 GB of data for $30, which includes tethering. Then they can't accuse you of tethering anymore, so they'll just accuse you of roaming data charges instead >_>
Have you had an HSPA smartphone before or just CDMA ones? If this is your first HSPA phone maybe the plan transfer from CDMA didn't go properly. This is Bell we're talking about, staffed by idiots.

Frostshock said:
Well, definitely keep arguing with them, but unless your plan is godly you can also grab 6 GB of data for $30, which includes tethering. Then they can't accuse you of tethering anymore, so they'll just accuse you of roaming data charges instead >_>
Have you had an HSPA smartphone before or just CDMA ones? If this is your first HSPA phone maybe the plan transfer from CDMA didn't go properly. This is Bell we're talking about, staffed by idiots.
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that is a good point. I did have a cdma smartphone b4 so I never know. I am paying $40 for my data but that also includes enhanced vm, unlimited txt and mms, and caller is so I will have trouble giving up what I have as to add those features to the data plan u have would cost more than what I pay now. Currently I have an awesome plan setup between two phones and if I had to restructure it would cost way more
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You might want to check you APN settings.
Some carriers use different APN for phone data and tethered data.
In my case, first time I booted my GS, it was the thethered data APN that was selected and I had to change it (hopefully I always check APN settings when using a new phone).

ArcanaXVIII said:
You might want to check you APN settings.
Some carriers use different APN for phone data and tethered data.
In my case, first time I booted my GS, it was the thethered data APN that was selected and I had to change it (hopefully I always check APN settings when using a new phone).
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That is exactly what I was think as one of my posts stated. Thank-you for the confirmation on that. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca which on bells site is used if u want to tether. Because I am on an older smartphone plan I believe it is thinking all app data is tethered data.
P. S. These forum posts have cost me like $10 as I am using the xda app. Lol. They are saying they will get back to me mid next week about this
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I just checked and my APN is also inet.bell.ca. I don't know if it's supposed to be something else but when I go to self serve it says I've been using data in-plan. I'm covered for tethering anyway, but still, if that's the tethering APN they shouldn't make it the default for this reason.

I'm Getting billed fine.. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca .. I just checked my un-billed usage and it shows all usage in-plan Data use. I have used about 20meg since the 8th also I just have 500meg data plan a month..

I agree. The settings for the nexus one are different and probably the right ones for my data plan however I don't want to change them yet as they will probably tell me that I must have stopped tethering after I got the letter from bell and stick me with the charges. Until mid next week I need to be able to reproduce the issue so I van prove they are retarded.
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Mine is set to inet.bell.ca and i'm getting billed OK... shows all usage in-plan Data use.
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Are u on a data plan that includes tethering? I think all the data plans within the last year have. I have an older one that is saving me money over the new ones
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clearcase said:
Are u on a data plan that includes tethering? I think all the data plans within the last year have. I have an older one that is saving me money over the new ones
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Ya all the new plans do included Tethering.. just checked... your likely right as to the reason this is happening to you.. the computer system is not seeing that you have a data plan.. might take a few level up to fix that for you but I have a feeling if this is what is happening there are others as well having the same issue.

yeah Im going to call in right now and tell them to fix it right away, Im rightfully paying for my 6GB data package, I WILL NOT pay them a cent more than I agree to. 30$ is quite enough already for 6GB.
BTW i changed it to pda.bell.com and it seems to be working... ill keep you guys informed.
On a side not, if they were smart i think they would charge at least simi reasonable rates for out of plan data usage while roaming or not... ie 1$ per megabyte. That way people would travel with their phones and actually bring in more revenue for said provider... I dont carry my phone while i travel because of the ridiculous 54$/mb.

Lol. Without roaming ire is 6 per meg. I just calculated the total they think i owe and it Ian up to $ 3408 since Aug 6th. Gotta love it.
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clearcase said:
On a side note my apn looks to be setup to use the phone for tethering and does not use the suggested nexus one apn settings again I feel that all data NOT traveling over port 80 or not travelling through the browser is being considered tethering by their proxy
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that exactly is.
Bell is stuck in the ancient times, they believe only WAP and port 80 browsing is web, and everything else is over use.... like WTF? wake up, we are in the 21s century already, we are not stuck in web only phones.
At least Fido and Rogers are less knuckle heads as Bell

clearcase said:
That is exactly what I was think as one of my posts stated. Thank-you for the confirmation on that. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca which on bells site is used if u want to tether. Because I am on an older smartphone plan I believe it is thinking all app data is tethered data.
P. S. These forum posts have cost me like $10 as I am using the xda app. Lol. They are saying they will get back to me mid next week about this
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you know what, raise them hell
put your video on YouTube or something, remember the guy from Virgin in Canada, same ****, Virgin tried to charge him $8000 on data usage on his iphone.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/06/“...ks-up-8k-wireless-bill-while-visiting-france/
I'll vote for you, lets create a new facebook or twiter account to raise this issue.
the media will pick it up in a snap.

T-Mobile 3g

Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does in if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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Take it you ment 10gigs.
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ping33tx said:
Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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it's 10gb not 10mb. and that's a reasonable limit before throttling. there are other threads on this as well.

Does this count for downloading 10mb apps and stuff? I have not been throttled down and thought this was only a myth...10gb is a lot to go through a month for me anyway though
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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What are you doing on your phone that you need 10GB of data?
This is not new news. It's been like this for months.

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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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lol. then everyone on this forum would be throttled on their first day of their billing cycle every month....
it's 10gb. been that way for a long time.

Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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There you go!

As I am new to android/smartphones, can anyone tell me if there is any easy way to check your current data usage to see where you stand?

Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Hell your DSL is not the same as wireless. 10GB on a cellular network is a lot.

Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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ping33tx said:
Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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this has been discussed thoroughly in other threads....
but, basically, you are still receiving the product (unlimited web access, which is the same cost even if there isn't 3g in your area), just at a slower speed. a lot of cable and dsl companies do the same thing and their networks aren't as impacted by heavy bandwidth usage.

The dumb part is 10gig's isn't much anymore, some apps/games download 80-100 megs worth of stuff.
Not only that but last I checked the Samsung Vibrant comes with mobile TV app does it not?
So whats the point of having apps that are going to eat up data, are only good when they have 3g and we only have 10gigs or use or that?
It makes me sick every time I see ATT's dumb as use our internet commercial and don't state it's a 250 meg and 2.5 gig plans.
Tmobile isn't very far from being in the same boat because they give you a phone with mobitv and advertise the screen and playing movies and then expect you to not use it (and the data cell line to it) to stream videos/movies/shows?
Same thing for Win7, etc..
ALL these phones now are capable of pulling 100's of gigs of data in a month, yet they want us to accept a neutered phone with only 10 gigs of worthy access at descent speeds.
And no edge isn't worthy, might as well not have a data connection for anything other than checking email or getting tweets because it's way to slow.
So either go back to selling just dumb phones, or they need to expect people to be using more data.
I just don't see the point in living in this internet data based world and having all these damn cell phone companies refuse to allow us to enjoy it by not offering a true unlimited internet 3g connection to our phones.
And it's not the data pipe, or the usage thats a bull**** argument because the following companies offer unlimited internet through cell towers for laptops/home computers verizon/virgin mobile/sprint and sprint offers unlimited 3g to their 4g phones.
So no it's not about them "coping" with us the evil eaters of all the bandwith. If that was the case nobody, not one company could offer true unlimited 3g/4g but it is out there just not for the vast majority of the companies/options and you have zero options if you are GSM only like me which sucks.

I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that

PolishDude said:
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.

I got a message telling me my connection was throttled as well. Problem is I haven't been using my phone. I checked my usage on the t-mobile website and it claimed my phone used a gigabyte while I was sleeping. At various points my phone seems to do a few hundred megabytes at random. This has been happening the last few days, which corresponds to the time that the gmail application stopped syncing on my phone. Is this a common problem?

Virgin Mobile/Sprint is giving unlimited 3G away for a few reasons
- Subscriber additions
- Underused EV-DO network (soon to be overloaded with unlimited usage+Evo/Epic; it's already happening) There isn't enough bandwidth to go around. Two people streaming YouTube constantly is enough to bring your overall data through put below 1Mbps where it was probably 2Mbps before.
- Subscriber additions, Sprint is hurting for them.

Very well spoken thats been my whole point to start with
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
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Is it possible to get charged for data without a plan?

I bought my Vibrant unlocked, and I don't have a data plan of any sort, though I do have messaging. I noticed that if I disable data through the *#*#4636#*#* menu, I'm unable to send or receive MMS. However, when I have data enabled, the 3G icon appears and has the flashing arrows. In addition, when I go into the browser and try to load any page, it takes me to a web2go website. I'm worried that I might be charged for data, so my question is: will I?

no u will not

raycosm said:
I bought my Vibrant unlocked, and I don't have a data plan of any sort, though I do have messaging. I noticed that if I disable data through the *#*#4636#*#* menu, I'm unable to send or receive MMS. However, when I have data enabled, the 3G icon appears and has the flashing arrows. In addition, when I go into the browser and try to load any page, it takes me to a web2go website. I'm worried that I might be charged for data, so my question is: will I?
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nope been using my phone like this since my g1. never been charged a penny.

how did you get it without a data plan?
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how did you get it without a data plan?
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Unlocked or with an even more plus plan. IR Craigslist
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Alex530 said:
Unlocked or with an even more plus plan. IR Craigslist
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By even more plus you mean off contract right?
Their new prepaid plans actually give you 1500 minutes or texts and like 30 megs of EDGE data. It's enough for email and browsing. Not a bad deal at all if you ask me.

dont' worry mate u wont' get charged

Yes it is possible, T-Mobile has a sneaky way of charging even without a plan. If you access data, they charge you per megabit or megabyte or something like that, even if you don't have a plan.
You can go onto t-mobile.com and access your account, and completely turn off the option to ever access data.

SamsungVibrant said:
Yes it is possible, T-Mobile has a sneaky way of charging even without a plan. If you access data, they charge you per megabit or megabyte or something like that, even if you don't have a plan.
You can go onto t-mobile.com and access your account, and completely turn off the option to ever access data.
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Unless it has changed recently you're wrong...I had the vibrant without a data plan and I wasn't able to.access the internet.

sahil04 said:
Unless it has changed recently you're wrong...I had the vibrant without a data plan and I wasn't able to.access the internet.
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NO, I'm not wrong, I have 5 lines on my account, only two have a data plan. The other 3 lines were being charged per use data fee because the people who have those phones were using the internet on the phone, I think it was per megabyte or megabit I'm not sure.
I had to call in and complain several times until I got a supervisor that explained to me that even without a data plan, if the internet is accessed you get charged for the bandwith usage. She showed me how to log onto my t-mobile and completely turn off access to data, and they reversed the fees.

Just updated OTA to 1.22.531.8

I got my phone about 4 days ago so I just received this update.
After updating, everything works except for the fact that I no longer have data. The "H" is not showing up and I can't connect to any apps that require the internet... how do I fix this?
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However, when I turn on Edge / 2g, then internet works...

Return the phone to T-mobile. Call them up and let them know you're having troubles with the update.
Edit - Have you gone over the 5 gig limit and you're capped?

There's a 5gig limit?
I thought the data plan was unlimited data...
Like I said, Edge works fine when I turn it on, but I'm paying for 3g... it'd be stupid to just let it be. I guess I'll stop by the Tmobile store if it doesnt fix itself

It is unlimited data but they can decide how fast that data is. Did you actually go over the limit?
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It is unlimited data but they can decide how fast that data is. Did you actually go over the limit?
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FWIW. When you go ever the limit 3g or H is still displayed, but the actual speed is like edge.

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FWIW. When you go ever the limit 3g or H is still displayed, but the actual speed is like edge.
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for noobs FWIW= for what its worth.......
love baseball caps hate TMO Caps.

had the same issue, had to get a new sim card in my g1