Id like to give credit where credit is do. Thankyou Monopolykill3r for this sweet ass leak.We as testers deserve to test these roms. Just like other noobs who brick there phones trying to install a modem lol .Now thats funny.Its not the modem its Odin, That program sucks. and you knew all about it before you tried loading **** with it on your phone.Now we as testers deserve the new dk17 rom also ,We went this far lets keep on going with these new fixes. Intill then we must give credit to monopolykill3r in our beta roms that use the dk05 update.
I agree. Xda is not a place for newbies. Xda is for learning and testing. Xda is not a public release place for every user. From what I understand these phones cannot be bricked. Bricked means the phone is a brick, a paper weight and can never be used again.
Odin reflash and you are good to go. The term brick has got to go.
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XDA is about a Developers community and monopoly proved exactly that, its not to prevent others from messing up their phones. Its about people sharing their experiences using something and working with each other to fix it. Keeping these files hidden hinders the movement and progress of improving something significantly, and slows development to an absolute crawl. By releasing these to us as a whole, we can help find the issues much quicker.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I look forward to DK17 if possible.
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Id like to give credit where credit is do. Thankyou Monopolykill3r for this sweet ass leak.We as testers deserve to test these roms. Just like other noobs who brick there phones trying to install a modem lol .Now thats funny.Its not the modem its Odin, That program sucks. and you knew all about it before you tried loading **** with it on your phone.Now we as testers deserve the new dk17 rom also ,We went this far lets keep on going with these new fixes. Intill then we must give credit to monopolykill3r in our beta roms that use the dk05 update.
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First of all, I am glad he leaked the rom unless it gets someone into trouble. If that person does get into trouble, there goes a leak source. Let me just say though, no one DESERVES anything. Be thankful that it was released, but slow down pronouncing all of these things you deserve.
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Id like to give credit where credit is do. Thankyou Monopolykill3r for this sweet ass leak.We as testers deserve to test these roms. Just like other noobs who brick there phones trying to install a modem lol .Now thats funny.Its not the modem its Odin, That program sucks. and you knew all about it before you tried loading **** with it on your phone.Now we as testers deserve the new dk17 rom also ,We went this far lets keep on going with these new fixes. Intill then we must give credit to monopolykill3r in our beta roms that use the dk05 update.
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Which is the best ROM I've had on my phone yet. Thanks again!
Sent from an Epic 4g that I am told will brick shortly due to the fact that I flashed DK05.
Slow down .Dude your funny too. Dk17 is out there and we should be testing that..All the feedback they recieve while we test these will help them make a better rom for everyone the more bugs reported the better.
To be honest I think donating has ruined xda. Back when I had the hero the best dev was the one that refused donations. He just worked for the joy of having a great rom.
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To be honest I think donating has ruined xda. Back when I had the hero the best dev was the one that refused donations. He just worked for the joy of having a great rom.
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I agree to a point, but its only bad if you're asking for donations to get your work.
As far as I'm concerned, I do/did the kernel work for fun and to make my phone better. I had people ask me how to donate, so I put up a link. It's one thing to have an option for people that are feeling generous, I think that's harmless, but I think it's wrong to ASK for donations for open source work.
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I agree to a point, but its only bad if you're asking for donations to get your work.
As far as I'm concerned, I do/did the kernel work for fun and to make my phone better. I had people ask me how to donate, so I put up a link. It's one thing to have an option for people that are feeling generous, I think that's harmless, but I think it's wrong to ASK for donations for open source work.
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That's fair. I can agree with that.
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I agree with all of the above posts, as we deserve to test new ROMS out being developed. If we want to take the chance on messing up our phones, well, that's up to the Epic owners. SHAME on the DEV'S who hold back progress on our Epic's, who are they to decide on what, and when the leake are released to "XDA members". Personally, I dont know if Noobnl is a liar, and I really dont care, as he is a GREAT DEV and has brought to us a lot of awesume work. I hope whom ever leaked this DK05 doesnt get into any trouble, as I think he is just looking out for the rest of us. Not that he's the only DEV who looks out for us. WE are a community, cant we all just play nice??? BRING ON THE DK17!!!! COM-ON DEV'S... GIMME-GIMME, lol.... SOME DK17!!!
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I agree with all of the above posts, as we deserve to test new ROMS out being developed. If we want to take the chance on messing up our phones, well, that's up to the Epic owners. SHAME on the DEV'S who hold back progress on our Epic's, who are they to decide on what, and when the leake are released to "XDA members". Personally, I dont know if Noobnl is a liar, and I really dont care, as he is a GREAT DEV and has brought to us a lot of awesume work. I hope whom ever leaked this DK05 doesnt get into any trouble, as I think he is just looking out for the rest of us. Not that he's the only DEV who looks out for us. WE are a community, cant we all just play nice??? BRING ON THE DK17!!!! COM-ON DEV'S... GIMME-GIMME, lol.... SOME DK17!!!
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If a friend comes to you and says:
"Here is a new piece of software that I am developing for Microsoft. I will allow you to use it because its so awesome and new, but don't leak it to anyone or I will lose my job."
You are saying that you would leak it?
That is the main issue other than stability that the Devs bring up. This leak has some Koreans name all over it. He could lose his job. That is a pretty ****ty thing to happen to someone who has done something pretty cool for us.
It's something to think about.
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I agree with all of the above posts, as we deserve to test new ROMS out being developed. If we want to take the chance on messing up our phones, well, that's up to the Epic owners. SHAME on the DEV'S who hold back progress on our Epic's, who are they to decide on what, and when the leake are released to "XDA members". Personally, I dont know if Noobnl is a liar, and I really dont care, as he is a GREAT DEV and has brought to us a lot of awesume work. I hope whom ever leaked this DK05 doesnt get into any trouble, as I think he is just looking out for the rest of us. Not that he's the only DEV who looks out for us. WE are a community, cant we all just play nice??? BRING ON THE DK17!!!! COM-ON DEV'S... GIMME-GIMME, lol.... SOME DK17!!!
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Bring on dk17 ,Leak it.. The dude lost his job already when you posted dj29 ,you must have gotten it from another rep from samsung. No no one is losing job from it.They said we need testers!!! ok i give it to 2 people that can really test.What a joke you believe that ..I believe that CM6.1 was a part in all of this Period.And i dont like his roms. no 4g thats a down grade..
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Bring on dk17 ,Leak it.. The dude lost his job already when you posted dj29 ,you must have gotten it from another rep from samsung. No no one is losing job from it.They said we need testers!!! ok i give it to 2 people that can really test.What a joke you believe that ..I believe that CM6.1 was a part in all of this Period.And i dont like his roms. no 4g thats a down grade..
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Geniusdog says its the same Korean name on both leaks. I have absolutely zero reason not to trust him as he seems like one of the most reasonable people I have dealt with on XDA.
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Geniusdog says its the same Korean name on both leaks. I have absolutely zero reason not to trust him as he seems like one of the most reasonable people I have dealt with on XDA.
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Ok like i said, Please ask to release dk17 .dont hold back on us testers he didnt lose his job .He is not gonna its out and we need updated fixes
so we can report
@monopolykiller
You keep saying "we as testers deserve this" but what have you done to deserve anything? All you've done is accuse noob (one of the few devs the Epic community has) of trying to monopolize Epic development, which is not only slander, but it just plain doesn't make sense, a Sprint employee took a big risk by even leaking it to noob and a few other devs and noob was just trying to not only protect this employees job by not widely releasing the leak but to protect the community from an unstable Rom. Frankly I don't know where your sense of entitlement is coming from, and really hope you grow up a little and stop thinking you can have anything you want, a lesson even my 5 year old has learned.
In fact if anything this thread should be titled "Thank you monopolykiller for making the Epic community look like a bunch of brats"
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Ok like i said, Please ask to release dk17 .dont hold back on us testers he didnt lose his job .He is not gonna its out and we need updated fixes
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I would understand the anxiousness if Froyo was a year away, but its seriously right around the corner. I know people have been saying its right around the corner for a while now, but for reals its nearing release. Who wants to run a beta rom? I think a majority of people just want to know what fixes Froyo makes, and then they return to an Eclair rom after a small amount of testing. If the Devs weren't so secretive and just informed us of what Samsung is actually fixing, I think a lot of people would just be getting excited for the official release and wouldn't be so anxious to get their hands on something buggy.
You keep saying "we as testers deserve this" but what have you done to deserve anything?
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If the reaction he got in the initial thread that was vanished by the mods is any indication, he has done a LOT:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...developers.com/showthread.php?t=844654&page=3
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Post 15.
No idea if true.
Xda is a testing ground for phones. As long as there efficent enough of a warning, I don't see a proble in reeasing a beta version of a major update.
But on the other hand; the source took a big risk helping us..
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I would understand the anxiousness if Froyo was a year away, but its seriously right around the corner. I know people have been saying its right around the corner for a while now, but for reals its nearing release. Who wants to run a beta rom? I think a majority of people just want to know what fixes Froyo makes, and then they return to an Eclair rom after a small amount of testing. If the Devs weren't so secretive and just informed us of what Samsung is actually fixing, I think a lot of people would just be getting excited for the official release and wouldn't be so anxious to get their hands on something buggy.
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Listen muyoso .You must have this update already.I dont think holding back a leaked update will hurt if not make it better for the official build .Were talking about big bugs 2 very small bugs that a handfull of people wont find in a week
do you know what im talking about or you like having a finished defective phone
the developers never got to fix it right and on to the next like the samsung moment
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Listen muyoso .You must have this update already.I dont think holding back a leaked update will hurt if not make it better for the official build .Were talking about big bugs 2 very small bugs that a handfull of people wont find in a week
do you know what im talking about or you like having a finished defective phone
the developers never got to fix it right and on to the next like the samsung moment
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I am sticking with Eclair until Froyo drops officially. My phone has never tasted Froyo. No matter WHAT happens, devs are not going to waste their time fixing some beta release when the official release most likely already has the fix and is within a couple weeks of release. These people have lives too. If you read some of my other posts, I am not defending their actions with regards to holding back the rom. My stance is that they should either keep it absolutely secret they have the leak and use it for their own purposes or make it public that they have it and inform people of their intentions.
If there are any devs out there that disagree with me and think that spending countless hours hunting down and fixing problems in a beta rom which has probably already been fixed by Samsung in the final build which is set to release within 6 weeks at the LATEST, then please inform me and I will apologize.
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I am sticking with Eclair until Froyo drops officially. My phone has never tasted Froyo. No matter WHAT happens, devs are not going to waste their time fixing some beta release when the official release most likely already has the fix and is within a couple weeks of release. These people have lives too. If you read some of my other posts, I am not defending their actions with regards to holding back the rom. My stance is that they should either keep it absolutely secret they have the leak and use it for their own purposes or make it public that they have it and inform people of their intentions.
If there are any devs out there that disagree with me and think that spending countless hours hunting down and fixing problems in a beta rom which has probably already been fixed by Samsung in the final build which is set to release within 6 weeks at the LATEST, then please inform me and I will apologize.
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Thats cool. Thats you, but me and many other people on here like to test roms
and themes And who likes to be lied to. We all been lied to by the developers on here.Today we want what they have since they are not informing us with a progress report.. Please dont tell us its broke its not, were not stupid.We are on a developers site rooting our phones.You started this This is XDA Developers dude . why are you here?
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I guess when your phone just runs amazing it is getting hard to make it better. I keep trolling XDA for something worth reading or trying but nodda.
Thanks Dev for all that you have done but are we coming close to the end of development for the Vibrant? Any insight as to what might be some things to look forward to in the future?
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When I say no ROM worth trying I guess I need to be more specific. I currently run Bionix-V and right now don't see any ROM that is a huge improvement worth switching from.. But to clarify there are several very good ROM's out for our Vibrants..
maybe you should wait til they release a source code for 2.2
actually, just leave now.
Wow dont you think thats a slap in the face. I mean I actually think eugene is working with source first of all.
Secondly I "hear" they are working on gingerbread as there is a proof of concept in the development forum.
So once again.. dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?
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No Roms worth trying no kernels no modems. I guess when your phone just runs amazing it is getting hard to make it better. I keep trolling XDA for something worth reading or trying but nodda.
Thanks Dev for all that you have done but are we coming close to the end of development for the Vibrant? Any insight as to what might be some things to look forward to in the future?
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As for your questions, we still have Sense to look forward to (Barak, if you some how see this, good luck with your family situation,) new ROMs from TW/Eugene, etc. Possibilities are truly endless.
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Wow dont you think thats a slap in the face. I mean I actually think eugene is working with source first of all.
Secondly I "hear" they are working on gingerbread as there is a proof of concept in the development forum.
So once again.. dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?
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WHAT???? "dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?"
Are you smoking crack? I have donated and appreciate everything the Dev's have done and are doing to make our phones experience better.
But since the last few solid ROMS have come out for 2.2 there really has been little new development that actually improves your phones performance.
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I'm confused by this post. Actually I'm very shocked by this post.
Did you even look at the Dev forum? There are a ton of ROMS and the ROMS available are continuously being updated , some even are getting 2 or more updates per week!
How can you say the Vibrant is dead?
I can answer my own question:
1. You are just trolling OR
2. You need to learn how to use your reading comprehension skills and read more
Because there is plenty of action going on for development for the Vibrant. Give it some time man. The source code that is in the Dev section is a leaked one that Eugene got his hands on. Samsung hasn't even officially released it yet. Once they do there will be a swarm of updates to these ROMS we have already AND there will be new ones.
IDK, sorry for my rant. I usually don't even reply to these kind of seemingly troll posts but you probably should just take the other guys suggestion and just leave the forums. Because you just slapped the great Devs that help us all make our Vibrants one of the most customizable phones around.
Don't bash any devs with a statement like yours, and then at the end of your post thank the devs. That brief "thanks" to the devs doesn't take away the SLAP in the face you just gave them
PS. Just for your info and a reply to your last statement about performance enhancements to the Vibrants... My phone KILLS my girlfriends stock Nexus S in performance and looks in every way possible. I can't even bog my phone down and I'm not even overclocked. I'm running a "stock" Bionix V 1.2
stop feeding the trolls
Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
It's a trap!
Let me get my .02 in before this thread gets justifiably locked.
To the OP, what are you looking for? To say this forum is dieing is a joke.....right??
At one point there was only TW, Eugene, and Master posting up Roms; NOW we have about 6-7 options. The theming section is plastered with new options. 2.2 just got released and it opened up more doors.
If you think it's dead then kindly depart, you and all you have contributed will be sorely missed. /sarcasm
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Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
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No, you are not attacking anyone directly but you were also not "striking up interesting conversation". "forum is dead" and "no roms worth trying" is a matter of opinion which you are entitled to but not exactly a kind way of asking what's in the Vibrant developments future.
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Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
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You have "striked" some conversation for sure. And my post wasn't attacking you so I'm assuming you weren't talking to me in your last reply?
Unfortunately your post comes across kind of negative towards the community of Devs that work very hard to keep giving us new stuff for our phones.
So maybe you had very good intentions and the words just came out looking bad in your post.
I mean it is very hard to express intent thru words on a page. With actual conversation in person your words come across better. So maybe you can edit your original post if you didn't mean it to be a slap in the face to the community of devs here?
If not then that's fine too. Everyone is entitiled to their opinions.
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Is the Vibrant General not the place to just have open discussions? Why all the neg responses? I'm a die hard fan of this forum and our vibrant community. I was just trying to strike some conversation.
I agree we have themes out the butt.. Great I have themed my phone to death..
Your wording is not very good, I'm sorry to say. When you say "there are no ROMs worth trying" it sounds like you're saying "there are a bunch of ROMs but they're all shyte." If that is not your intent, I hope you change you original post, because that's exactly what it sounds like.
If that is your intent, then you deserve all the flack that you're getting here
I agree, but Flagship has been beast for me!!
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If that is your intent, then you deserve all the flack that you're getting here
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Not my intent at all..
This thread seems kind of silly since we've just started seeing kernels built from 2.2 source. It's kinda been the Holy Grail for many of us since the Froyo leaks began. Don't know about you, but I'm totally excited about Voodoo sound, overclocking, bln, ulf, etc., and all that with good battery life.
So really, if you think there's nothing exciting now, what exactly do you consider worthwhile?
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So really, if you think there's nothing exciting now, what exactly do you consider worthwhile?
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I consider worthwhile close this thread!
You will not get data back if you flash EB01 modem from Fascinate!
There a workaround posted below
Yeah, noob had me test this, and it failed spectacularily.
I didn't get Data back, so I odin'd back to DI18 and waited about an hour.
Lo and behold, 3G came back.
I'll post more details when i get back later on tonight.
Dont plan on it,I can wait till 4 hours after the OTA gets ripped to an update.zip thats pre-rooted and deodexed on 21st... Unless I or someone else can get the leak first.
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Why would someone use the modem from a different phone...
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Ya that doesn't sound smart too me, wouldn't do that and ill wait til the official source and the new bonsai rom to upgrade any modems and what not, probably wait a day or 2 after so they can iron put early issues.l with there script and what not, I would never flash a modem that wasn't mentioned for my phone
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Why would someone use the modem from a different phone...
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Cause they are noobs and kinda dumb... idk why people do things to there phone especially when they don't know what there doing
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Noobnl, that is why YOU don't tell people to do it. Use your own damn phone as a lab rat and stop attempting to destroy other folks equipment.
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Noobnl, that is why YOU don't tell people to do it. Use your own damn phone as a lab rat and stop attempting to destroy other folks equipment.
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I have to agree with this, if something needs to be tested i think it should be done by the person who wants it tested not someone else.Its very irresponsible to have someone flash something that you won't flash yourself first.
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I have to agree with this, if something needs to be tested i think it should be done by the person who wants it tested not someone else.Its very irresponsible to have someone flash something that you won't flash yourself first.
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Althought I only due themes but this is the practice I follow. If it don't work on my phone wjy would I give it someone else.
Flashing anything has a chance of bricking your phone people. Don't flash something cause someone told you especially if they didn't test it them selfs.
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When you flash ANYTHING you take the risk of destroying your device. I'm almost positive that Noob made sure to voice the possible issues that could come from flashing it. Don't down on him, if he says wanna flash something for me? It might break your phone though, and you accept its not his fault if you brick it.
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Noobnl, that is why YOU don't tell people to do it. Use your own damn phone as a lab rat and stop attempting to destroy other folks equipment.
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Everyone has a choice whether to try it or not. Noobnl is a well respected contributer here and I would lay off noobnl if u want him to continue his work. There is nothing wrong with asking people to test something out. Each phone is different. Read threw the forums everyone is experiencing different problems with different roms. Its hit or miss. Atleast he was kind enough to warn us about. I tell u what if noobnl asked me to test something I would without thinking twice.
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noobnl is active in the irc and communicates with these people about potential risks, so far he is one of the ONLY people doing development work on the Epic and currently he only has one device, if people are willing to test stuff so he can keep his device up and working than good for him. quit *****in and talkin about things you have no idea about
Am I insane are are the same people screaming about the lack of development here now screaming at noobnl for trying to develop for our phones?
You do realize that development is sometimes trial and error and there will always be bugs, right? Everyone who flashes anything or uses any workaround on this site is testing things that might destroy their phone but this you have a problem with? Wow.
i want to brick my phone EVERY day. if you dont, there are other forums for that. whats wrong with you people. this forums name is xda-DEVELOPERS. not xda-cryingbabies
Always riding noobnl and not his ass either! Noobnl...your our only hope... Only hope...only hope. It was bad taste but I'm sure the dude was willing. Still bad taste. To the men out there on noobnls johnson, hes a dude y'all post like your walking on egg shells. "oooooh noo if we say something mean he ll leave and its 2.1 forever. Dont be suprised when source is out to find out how wrong you guys are lol. 4 real what rom are all of you on andromeda? Must have more than 1 dev here then.
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: reports to the impaler for his infraction:
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Before this thread gets locked can someone please tell me what makes noobnl so great? And why he should be above the law?
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Before this thread gets locked can someone please tell me what makes noobnl so great? And why he should be above the law?
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That's a very confrontationally phrased question you got there and it makes it kinda difficult to answer in a manner that won't be taken as an attack on your opinion.
I will speak for nobody else, but for your first question, "...what makes noobnl so great?", here's my answer:
Nobody but you has stated that noobnl's "great". It is a seemingly resentful statement especially when the viewer reads on and sees that you also believe him "above the law". Therefore, I can only conclude that you personally consider him a great man but are resentful (for whatever reason) of that greatness.
The second question, "why should he be above the law?", I'm a bit confused about. How is he exhibiting behavior or actions that you perceive as "above the law"? I see no police here nor do I see him committing any crimes...but this is the internet and I only see him as a name and words and am not involved with his life outside of these sites. If he is, in fact, breaking the law and you have witnessed it, it is your duty as a citizen to report his activities to the authorities. Otherwise, aren't you just as guilty as he?
I appreciate your willingness to put together ROMS and such and put work into this phone. I am certain that someday, you, too will be so great that other people will take a chance on not reporting illegal activities that you perform, either.
Keep up the good work, Mystery, and don't let the naysayers get to you. Just focus on what you're doing and remember that it's for yourself; if you're happy with what you're doing, don't let anyone else force you to believe otherwise.
What rules did he break?
but anyways man he's not the only Dev "above the law"
he's trying hard to make cm6/cm7 work on our epic and would've been done by now if samsung/sprint handled their business but he's a very active Dev even though he has school and i believe he provided us with our first leak?and provided us with 1Click root? and he's been trying to get another leak apparently.
No im not **** riding but you have to admit noobnl has probably done the most SO FAR when it comes to development on the Epic but im not taking away from other Devs like the ACS team who made the Smoothest/Fastest 2.1 rom i've ever seen.
But leave noobnl alone people should know the risk of testing for him and im sure noobnl wouldn't do it was pointless
I am not Above the law.. I warned them.. testing something is only way to learn something
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Ive had my Vibrant since its release on July 15th, this is my second device because a few hours out of the box it just bootlooped.
I love it, and i love the dev community thats here for it, but im tired of hearing people complain about stock updates that their not gonna use. "samsung doesnt update their devices", "This is my last samsung phone"...Are you serious? Why complain when you've had an awesome dev community since the start. People know their not going to run stock but the complain anyway. Imo, I think people are just jumping on the Samsung Hate bandwagon. This is an awesome phone and community, And our Vibrants still murder more than half the Android Comp on stock 2.1, you guys saw the youtube reviews right?.
Why dont we give more praise instead of more ungreatfullness because this just sickens me.
"AND IM NOT CRYING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES CRYING, IM SIMPLY STATING THAT ITS VERY UNNECESSARY TO CRY WHEN YOU DONT HAVE TO"
PLEASE EVERYONE FIND YOUR FAVORITE GREAT (DEVS/THEMERS & AND GENERAL HELPFUL PEOPLE) AND PM THEM A THANKS FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK
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Agreed. This is my first android phone and will be keeping it for a long time. Devs have been awesome, but you will always have people who ***** and complain. It's just the nature of the beast.
Well said. This is a beast of a phone when run on custom roms, and our amazing devs are doing some great stuff to double the performance. Kudos to them. But some people simply live to whine and ***** around in their daily life let alone an internet forum.
Love this Vibrant and this great community behind it.
One of the reasons i think sammy doesnt update is because they dont stand a chance vs our dev field so why bother you kno?
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One of the reasons i think sammy doesnt update is because they dont stand a chance vs our dev field so why bother you kno?
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wait what? I'm sure as hell you know why we don't have a stable gingerbread rom.
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I love my Vibrant also. My phone does EVERYTHING that I could want a pocket sized computer to do; and it does it fast and it does it on a beautiful screen. The folks who have taken the time and energy to mod this rad device are plain and simply: awesome. Thanks to everyone at <TW> and EDT (my favs) for tweaking my phone in ways that I never could. Thanks to all who have worked on this device and produced a dozen + other ROMS. And thank you to the new Devs who are willing to continue tinkering with their own, hard earned, phones for the benefit of us all.
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I so agree with u! this community has been great and theyve been so helpful too. Ty so much and im loving my vibrant.
A thread to whine about other people's whining. Nice...
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A thread to whine about other people's whining. Nice...
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+1
Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
#neveragain
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Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
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Yeah and you 2 are probably some of the whiners he is talking about. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to his post then don't comment. He made a very valid statement. I haven't been a member for long, but I have seen many threads that were either titled something about never buying samsung again or whining about not getting stock updates. So unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread then don't come in and bash him for just trying to point out that the phone is awesome and that people are worried about stock updates when they don't even use them
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Disagree. This post has to reasons. To get people to see how great their phone is and to get them to be grateful for all the hardwork here in xda.
Agreed, the phone is great and still can be considered in top 5 phones out there. However I will like stock gingerbread for the sake of GPS drivers and Voodoo Kernel.
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Yeah and you 2 are probably some of the whiners he is talking about. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to his post then don't comment. He made a very valid statement. I haven't been a member for long, but I have seen many threads that were either titled something about never buying samsung again or whining about not getting stock updates. So unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread then don't come in and bash him for just trying to point out that the phone is awesome and that people are worried about stock updates when they don't even use them
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I never said his statement was invalid. I'm simply pointing out that threads like this often turn into flaming etc. People posting hate threads are a problem on this forum. People replying to those threads with flaming is also a problem. People posting thread that are prone to start flame wars are also a problem. Threads like this pop up all the time and more often than not it ends up being a flame war. I agree with the OP. People should take the phone for what it is or stfu and leave. But making this forum better isnt just about shutting down flamers when they start crap.. its also about not feeding their raging and/or posting things that invite them to start trouble. Constructive enough for you?
If you haven't been here for long than maybe you have yet to see the pattern. And maybe you should at least thing about what I said in my initial post before resorting to insults. While your at it, I invite you to find a single post of me whining about anything. Because I promise you wont.
When Samsung releases updates then our devs can tear them down and make them better. Without that source code it's very difficult to make the custom roms that are so friggin awesome. This is why we don't have a totally stable and working 2.3 rom out yet, and we probably won't until Samsung makes the stock 2.3 upgrade available.
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Haha, nice man.
thanks for all the hard work yall saved me when i somehow erased everything on my phone and was stuck in cwm
I, personally, have nothing to hate on the phone about..
We all complained for 2.2, but knew that our roms that we already have are FASTER and BETTER, when we did get 2.2 stock, no one used it, it was used by devs to probably put a few things in their roms, but after that, its gone.
The GPS sucks, i get it, thats their fault, they made a mistake, other companies have before as well (Apple with their antenna) I don't use GPS i have a GPS so i use that instead of my phone.
Besides that, i can complain for probably... no flash for the camera, but thats it.
MY phone is PERFECT, with the devs all that hard work, and i'm talking about the REAL devs, not the fags who theme and call themselves devs.
(no offence to themers at all, themes are themes, and are not meant to be a full rom, with the exception of Jellette's Bi-Sidekick ofc, it had to be a new rom even though its a theme)
I, Thank you all developers for sticking with us through the hard time that Samsung has given the devs by not releasing the source code, etc.
Thank you.
Just a wee note to remind people to keep it friendly. It's becoming a bit of a habit having to close threads like this because of childish and inappropriate behaviour.
Don't let this one go the same way.
Thanks...
Agreed! Good points!
Team Whiskey just announced the release of the next release after Bionix V 1.3.1, They're calling it Bionix Next Gen.
Figured everyone would be interested to know, as the 1.3.1 thread has about a million hits.
Head over to their forums at teamwhiskey.com to get their full instructions, otherwise just go to download here: sourceforge.net/projects/bionix-v/files/
This was already released a few months ago, but was in BETA and only for Donators, guess they released for everyone.
cheers!
Froyo? Not interested
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Froyo? Not interested
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I also wonder why they have stuck with 2.2 and only released one 2.2.1 that never got updated after the first day or so. Wonder what it is about the difference that they don't want to develop.
They ARE working on a GB rom, as heard..
Their probably releasing a 2.2 rom because.. well... people currently think their.. DEAD and they want people to know their still here, GB is probably hard as hell to work with.
their new rom NextGen was publicly released today on the TW forums. The OP is just slightly misinformed. IMO it seems to run better than v 1.3.1
Next Gen
1) based on Bionix 1.3.2 not 1.3.1
2) 1.3.1 ran like BUTTER< had damn near NO issues and was tough to improve on
3) Next Gen build was lead by a different group of devs that have contributed but not lead the charge
a) They have put together the BEST ROM the Team has done to date.
4) They are working on GB. With Samsung not hooking up some Vibrant GB source there are still holes, and we all know that the team is all about QUALITY!!!!!
5) Next Gen was a Beta for donators, because the doantor is the one most likely to give feedback on bugs (my guess).
Give it some love if you want. I have had NOTHING but great results. Battery, service, and GPS have been Phenomenal.....
If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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This isn't from viralblack or som, it's from a different group of aspiring devs associated with tw.
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s15274n said:
If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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If you go over to teamwhiskey.com then head to the forums or join their fan site on facebook they are alive and well...
I'm not 100% about WHAT exactly happened but I know they cut back on their XDA posts due to some...um...let's call them "miscommunications"
Team Whiskey has the best (most stable,fastest) roms I've found so far...great devs...
TW Rules!
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If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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You know they used to practically run these vibrant forums right? Sombionix would try to answer everyone's questions and be open with people. He ended up having the same problem that all of the greats had, and that's growing intolerant to whiny noobs that complained too much. I don't blame those guys for leaving and staying out of touch. It's not like they're obligated to us for anything. Long live Sombionix and his whole TW team. Imagine putting crazy long hours into a hobby, and once you were finished the people looking at your hard work criticize you and say it sucks even though they couldn't do any better. I don't know about you but it would drive me away too.
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You know they used to practically run these vibrant forums right? Sombionix would try to answer everyone's questions and be open with people. He ended up having the same problem that all of the greats had, and that's growing intolerant to whiny noobs that complained too much. I don't blame those guys for leaving and staying out of touch. It's not like they're obligated to us for anything. Long live Sombionix and his whole TW team. Imagine putting crazy long hours into a hobby, and once you were finished the people looking at your hard work criticize you and say it sucks even though they couldn't do any better. I don't know about you but it would drive me away too.
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I understand what you mean, but Team Whiskey should atleast talk to us a little or even a bit instead of AT ALL
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I understand what you mean, but Team Whiskey should atleast talk to us a little or even a bit instead of AT ALL
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the thing is, they still do. people just assume that if it isn't Som or Viral, then it's not TW. But the throne has been handed down, so to speak, to a new group.
Sigh, they said a while ago that they weren't going to release anything on XDA anymore. They grew tired of XDA so they decided to just post on their forums/website only. It's true that the Bionix developing has been handed down to someone else, Nopcodex90.
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Sigh, they said a while ago that they weren't going to release anything on XDA anymore. They grew tired of XDA so they decided to just post on their forums/website only. It's true that the Bionix developing has been handed down to someone else, Nopcodex90.
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and its an amazing rom!
is it 2.2.1 or 2.2 ? wow one another best rom to flash
Any idea why my battery drain fast... from 100%-73% in just 45mins. And im just browsing not even playing video.
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Ok, let me clear some smoke.
1. NextGen is still 2.2, based from the mysterious 1.3.2 build with some more tweaks by Nopcodex90
2. I'm not sure if Shorty, Alexia, or Nopcodex90 still gets on XDA, but i'm still here....but T.W. forums is where we mostly reside at now....Som, Viral, and Krylon are and will forever be the original founders of Team Whiskey..and with all the great, solid ROMs they put out...they deserve a break if they want one, and while they're taking a break...Shorty, Nopcodex90, grendel905, Alexia,creator2456, AlterBridge86, Allen, MacGyver, PezLee, }SkOrPn--', KidDynamite, along with myself is holding down the fort at the forums. We are a team....we are Team Whiskey, and we will never die.
Please stop with the dumb comments against the devs. This is totally uncalled for and should stop now. I am someone who really enjoy's coming to this site. I come here to read, learn and always am looking for new fun things to flash.
IMO all the devs here are amazing and remember they do this all for free, They dont have to give us nothing but they give us amazing Roms, Kernels and Themes to make our phones better and allows us to customize it how we like. You are all entitled to an opinion but if you have nothing nice to say then you should'nt say it. Dont start crap because your Rom hasnt been updated in a few days, you know the devs are working on it and will release it after its been tested. I know i want something tested before i flash it and i would think you would also. So lets remember we all are here for the same reasons and i would like to make sure the devs know we appreciate them and all they do for us. I dont want devs to start getting pissed and say forget you all so lets try being nicer to them.
Sorry for this but this is just my opinion and i hope you all would agree with me.
^^^Absolutely agree
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+2 absolutely agree. If you don't like how the devs are, STFU and go AWAY. They do amazing things for us. Period.
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Not meant as a rant, just my POV
Why, Why would anyone who is a member or user of XDA, bash on the Developers?? This is ASININE!! The developers here have made your devices so much better than they are stock. they spend countless hours fixing what the carrier and manufacturer screwed up in the first place and pawned off on us as GOOD STUFF Every time I have Questions or Issues with something it has been a developer who helped me, so in return they get all my support. Then I take what I already knew and what I learn here and apply it to helping other who are not at the level i am yet. So if this forum is dedicated to making things better for your devices and your understanding of those devices and its OS, which they MOST definitely ARE, why not show support and ask for help if something is going wrong or you don't understand, most of us are truly here to help. Instead of complaining and bashing do some research and find out how to help yourself, who knows, you might get so addicted to it you become a developer yourself.
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Why, Why would anyone who is a member or user of XDA, bash on the Developers?? This is ASININE!! The developers here have made your devices so much better than they are stock. they spend countless hours fixing what the carrier and manufacturer screwed up in the first place and pawned off on us as GOOD STUFF Every time I have Questions or Issues with something it has been a developer who helped me, so in return they get all my support. Then I take what I already knew and what I learn here and apply it to helping other who are not at the level i am yet. So if this forum is dedicated to making things better for your devices and your understanding of those devices and its OS, which they MOST definitely ARE, why not show support and ask for help if something is going wrong or you don't understand, most of us are truly here to help. Instead of complaining and bashing do some research and find out how to help yourself, who knows, you might get so addicted to it you become a developer yourself.
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Thank you... It's nice to see people are agreeing with me on this.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Also, remember to not be frustrated when they can't instantly solve a problem. There is a reason that they make the roms, and you don't. Most people are busy.. maybe they have a job, family, and/or school. The fascinate really has talented people working on it. We are some of the lucky people that flash new toms and kernels without a locked bootloader.
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you know the sad thing about these people, is that they come back.
Could not agree more. There is no need for any slinging in here.
I also get bummed when I sere people *telling* themers what to change.
None of us has to be anything outside of stock. If you opt to participate in the progress, great, enjoy. But know that the guys that build out owe you nothing.
You have it because THEY are awesome.
And OP, I love that you made a thread for this. :thumbup:
Swyped...
Best post I've read in a long while.
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Excellent post.
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Wait, so I can't demand faster updates and better support for all the money that I'm NOT paying? You mean to tell me that I can't catch attitude with the devs who are doing all of this for free? Are you trying to suggest that I can't complain about the bleeding edge software/firmware and a**kicking mods that we get from them when Samsung and Verizon wouldn't walk across the street to piss on our heads if we were on fire? Are you implicating that I don't have the right to leave criticizing posts and berate the devs when this awesome stuff isn't exactly to my liking? Especially when it's user error and all my fault? To sum it all up you're basically saying that it's wrong for me to be an a**hole and totally ungrateul when I've contributed absolutely NOTHING to this community? That's it! I'm getting an iPhone and I'm leaving!
Lol! Great post man! For real! 100% AGREE!
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Great post fitti...and on that note...remember to donate to those you use. It takes so much time to do this kinda stuff, we should at least buy em a beer.
Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer?
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I've no idea what he's referring to either.
And the use of the prefix, "[ANNOUNCEMENT]" for this self-righteous rant seems rather pretentious.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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I think this thread was started in response to chronster's comments in your Crysis Revolution thread about Community ROM being broken and your theme not being made for other ROMs.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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Well there has been people coming into the posts and complaining that this Rom or theme hasnt been updated. i mean i am all for the newest updates to any of the Roms, themes, launchers and anything you all do for us. So basically i was just trying to put it out there that anyone who is not contributing to any dev or mods should just be patient and in time all their ROMS, Themes, CWM and everything that you all do will get done. I was just getting tired of people demanding stuff, i mean come on if you want something bad enough and you can't wait then oh well learn to do it yourself. There are plenty of people waiting for Comrom v 2.0 and they will have to wait until it has been tested and released, when it is it will be awesome b/c these good people who have jobs and lives outside of this posts are willing to do amazing stuff in their free time. I know your Tw4 is going to be awesome and you do amazing work.
I just want everyone to be nice to you all as they should be showing their appreciation instead of sometimes being asses to some of the devs. I didnt enjoy my phone when i first got it and now i love it because of all that you all do... I just wanted you all to know it and i hoped everyone else agrees with me.
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I think this thread was started in response to chronster's comments in your Crysis Revolution thread about Community ROM being broken and your theme not being made for other ROMs.
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Landshark you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for that.
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Landshark you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for that.
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Well, remember the troll from that thread blamed his lack of meds as the problem.... yeah I didn't buy it either.
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Our devs rule and everyone knows it. Anyone who would bash them is clearly a troll or an idiot, or both, and shouldn't be paid an ounce of attention.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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yeah it wasnt just chronster though....if you actually want to bang your head against the wall there are dozens of lousy comments in the com rom thread about "this rom is broken, why release this..blah blah"
really irritating