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Hi Folks,
I just took for the first time a video clip with my Magician today, and had the Camera settings to
Capture Mode: Video
Capture Format: MPEG-4
Capture Size: Large
it produced a nice video clip file with in the .mp4 format (lets not talk about the quality)
I copied this file over to my SD card, and from there to my PC to play here.
It played by default using Apple Quick Time (7.0.3), no probs.
I tried to open it with WMP10 on my PC, and only got the sound, not video.
I was assuming, that a video clip taken with a Microsoft product (Magician WM2003) would play by default using the Microsoft pendant on the PC (WMP10), and MS does not rely on a 3rd party software (QT).
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong, or if I'm just missing the right codec on my PC to play back the file ?
Thanks
torklemm said:
Hi Folks,
I just took for the first time a video clip with my Magician today, and had the Camera settings to
Capture Mode: Video
Capture Format: MPEG-4
Capture Size: Large
it produced a nice video clip file with in the .mp4 format (lets not talk about the quality)
I copied this file over to my SD card, and from there to my PC to play here.
It played by default using Apple Quick Time (7.0.3), no probs.
I tried to open it with WMP10 on my PC, and only got the sound, not video.
I was assuming, that a video clip taken with a Microsoft product (Magician WM2003) would play by default using the Microsoft pendant on the PC (WMP10), and MS does not rely on a 3rd party software (QT).
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong, or if I'm just missing the right codec on my PC to play back the file ?
Thanks
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Correct me if i'm wrong but i do believe the camera program on modern HTC devices (like the Magician) is made by HTC itself and not by MS. So it's possible it uses different kind of codecs.
MS isn't allowed to ship a lot of codec with WMP. Only some basic and MS-made codecs. So you have to rely on third party apps/codecs to play the .mp4 files.
Hello Torklemm
You can use the VLC Player to Play almost any type of media including the mp4 , 3gp etc etc .
here is the link to download it - h**p://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10267151.html
You can also install the Nero Digital MPEG 4 AVC h.264 dshow decoder , after i installed this , my wmp ver 10 was able to play the Mp4 video files.
Cheers.
Sean_Dillon said:
Hello Torklemm
You can use the VLC Player to Play almost any type of media including the mp4 , 3gp etc etc .
here is the link to download it - h**p://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10267151.html
You can also install the Nero Digital MPEG 4 AVC h.264 dshow decoder , after i installed this , my wmp ver 10 was able to play the Mp4 video files.
Cheers.
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very useful decoder!
but only motion decoding not audio track.
i see only motion without sound.
Hmmm , That is Strange Vigor_ , I thought the audio recorded in the video format of Magician was either mp3 , wma or wav . . . all 3 being suported by wmp. Will have to check this Thanx.
It's none of those. The audio is AMR Narrowband, whatever the blazes that is! I've been having the same problem converting it. AMR doesn't seem to be supported by much.
mp4 format
You should use a plugin or converter program. For plugin Ulead video suite v9.0 is the best solution.For convert purpose I offer IMTOO program.Another way is using avi format instead of mp4
Where do you get that Nero Digital dshow decoder? A Link would be nice.
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You should use a plugin or converter program. For plugin Ulead video suite v9.0 is the best solution.For convert purpose I offer IMTOO program.Another way is using avi format instead of mp4
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The same with me. I use ImTOO 3GP Video Converter 2.1.55.1107b, good stuff.
Where do you get that Nero Digital dshow decoder?
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How to do it for free, though it's a ton of work
Okay, I've successfully done it now. My biggest problem was that imTOO 3gpp costs money, and I just couldn't justify spending the money on it.
There's probably a few different ways to do this, but here's how I've done it:
1) Separate the Video stream from the audio stream
I used Microsoft Graphedit for this. It comes in a Microsoft SDK, but if you google it, you can find it.
When you open graphedit and select render the file, you'll get a message saying that part of the stream isn't recognised. That's the AMR audio. That's step 2, so ignore. Assuming you've got an xvid mpeg 4 codec on your machine already (and I suspect also a 3ivx codec), a graph will show up starting with your video file and ending with a video renderer. Click on the video renderer, delete it, and click on the xvid decoder and delete it. Then add a filter called file writer to the video stream coming out of the 3ivx media splitter.
Run that and you have an xvid mpeg-4 video stream with no audio.
2) Separate the amr audio stream
I used Miksoft 3gp decoder for this. For some reason I couldn't do video with this tool, so I just clicked the "convert audio only" option. It gave me a PCM .avi file.
3) Mix the two together
I have used two programs for this, both locatable through google and both freeware. Virtualdub and TMPGENC.
Virtualdub is handy if you have to rotate the video stream. I don't think you can use virtualdub to finalize the video because the .avi sound file kicks up an error for me. But the video I wanted to convert was filmed on my JAM with it held lengthwise (aka 320x240), so when the file is normally viewed, you see it 240x320 and have to tilt your head.
I prefer to use TMPGENC and end up with an MPEG-1 file. Here's why...
You input the xvid video file as the video source, the .avi pcm audio as the audio source, under advanced, select "Full screen (keep aspect ratio)" instead of the "full screen" that is presented there, and then let her run. You end up with a video in mpeg-1 that is formated to 352x240 (NTSC vcr resolution), but with black stripes above and below so that the image isn't stretched or distorted, like it would be if you just went with "full screen". You can then convert that into an avi file with whatever software you want.
It's a ton of work to do, but for me, it was a better solution than spending another $30US on something I'd use minimally. I also do a fair bit of video work, so I had all the other tools and codecs handy.
Good luck!
Hi
I use apples Quicktime - pro can also convert to AVI's.
BR
Daniel
The way I did it was to get the K-lite codec pack. Google it and don't download any versions from places that try to charge you for it, it's free. Also be aware of dodgy sites that may include spyware/malware with it. I've been stung a couple of times.
Then nearly any freeware converter will work. You can also play them in WMP.
Errrr...yes, that would seem to be a "faster" way of doing it...
screen capture
hmmm, need help...can't seem to capture images (using the screen capture button) when playing mp4 files on the vlc player...i've imported the image on adobe photoshop but it was distorted...help?
this is for info in relation to the original post
I too could not play my mp4 videos on my PC with sound and tried all the various players and plugins but this link from last year worked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12308&highlight=mp4
I'm new to this forum, so sorry if this has been asked loads of times before.
The HTC Desire cannot play most video files out of the box. What's considered the best android video player, with the most codec support?
I've managed to get two Quicktime MOVs to work but without sound (the rest don't, one is a 720p Robin Hood trailer, that looks amazing). The following don't work at all:
* AVI - Some DivX, some unknown
* FLV - Off You Tube
* RM - RealPlayer
* M4V
* MPG - MPEG1
The following work fine:
* 3GP
* WMV
* MP4
I particularly need a player that can handle DivX/Xvid and Quicktime MOV.
The best I can find is yxFlash. This supports:
# Supports mpg, avi, mp4, flv, mkv and wmv/asf files
# Mpeg1/2/4, H264 BP, Divx/Xvid, FLV1 and WMV7/8/9
# Mp3, AAC, WMA, AC3 and PCM
# Network Streaming (http, ftp, mms ...)
# Armv7 Neon Accelaration and Up to 720p DivX Playback for Cortex-A8 Based Devices.
Not Quicktime though (maybe some will work that are MPEG4). The free version only lets you play videos for 2 minutes long. It costs $9.90 (pricey!).
I'd rather find a free or cheaper alternative before shelling out nearly 10 dollars.
Thanks
I think there is nothing right now apart from yxflash which does AVI etc.
Its crap though this is what i think. Big down side of android is a good video player.
There is coreplayer being develop for android but it could be an other few years before we see it.
hassan said:
I think there is nothing right now apart from yxflash which does AVI etc.
Its crap though this is what i think. Big down side of android is a good video player.
There is coreplayer being develop for android but it could be an other few years before we see it.
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how come? TCPMP has been out on WM for years and runs on harcware that is years old
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I think there is nothing right now apart from yxflash which does AVI etc.
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I'm really surprised that's the case but looking too and I cannot find much either. It's crazy. The HTC Desire has a wonder resolution. I read HTC plan to include DivX support in a future Desire firmware though.
I've just downloaded the English Wuzhenhua Player 4.1 from this forum. Maybe that's better.
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There is coreplayer being develop for android but it could be an other few years before we see it.
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Years! . They're losing money. Windows Mobile is on the way out. Thanks.
I've found yxflash to be pretty good.
It won't play any of my FLV files (contrary to what the site says) but it plays everything else nice enough. Sadly there is a noticeable lag at times though . Oddly despite the Market Place listing claiming "only 2 minutes of playback", I've had a video playing for over 3 minutes now, without problem.
Wuzhenhua on the other hand needs a lot of work. Sure it plays the FLV files (just about!). That's about the only good thing I can say about it. It crashes more than it doesn't. Thanks to the guy who translated it into English though.
The best video player is the one HTC ship with the Desire but it only plays .3GP, .WMV and .MP4. I guess the best solution right now is to transcode to .MP4 until HTC get around to releasing their firmware so the Desire can play DivX.
I find Act1 Video player to be the best so far.
Plays without hiccups 99% of the time
dougsdir said:
how come? TCPMP has been out on WM for years and runs on harcware that is years old
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Yes WM is a different platform, As i've heard from betaboy that Android NDK is still not very good for coreplayer and until google will come out with good NDK there wont be coreplayer for Android.
Also coreplayer team is bit slow too as they were talking about new version of coreplayers for at least two years now.
Only Samsung Galaxy S is going to cover lot of codec in MKV.
Its a big downside of Desire as it cant play DIVX, XVID etc natively.
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I find Act1 Video player to be the best so far.
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I've just installed that thanks. That is a nice player. It only looks to support the formats that are native to the phone though. So in my case .3GP, .WMV, .MP4.
Meaning it's not much different to the native HTC one really. I do like it can resume from where you left off though. yxflash has a neat feature whereby for .3GP, .WMV, .MP4 it defaults to the HTC Player for these formats and uses it's own interface for other formats. I like that as it's better.
hassan said:
Its a big downside of Desire as it cant play DIVX, XVID etc natively.
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DivX at least is coming:
http://www.htcphones.net/htc-desire-support-for-divx-confirmed/
The native HTC Video Player was able to play a Robin Hood (2010) 720p Quicktime trailer of mine. It looked amazing and played fine, no sound though. It was more luck than anything else it played.
rename them..
For your .m4v you can just change the extention to .mp4, and the desire movie player will play them back just fine.
It's not "out of the box" playback, but it doesn't take you long to rename them and the files doesn't change (like if you converted them to another format).
I did it with a couple of files when i threw a movie folder onto the sd card using astro. Not much hassle.
m4v's are just apple re-branded mp4's.
http://all-streaming-media.com/streaming-media-faq/faq-mp4-streaming.htm
regards
-e
Eddiemc said:
For your .m4v you can just change the extention to .mp4, and the desire movie player will play them back just fine.
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I noticed that after posting thanks. It turns out (using GSpot) they're MP4 files anyway. I'm pretty sure M4V and MP4 are the same thing anyway.
Eddiemc said:
m4v's are just apple re-branded mp4's.
http://all-streaming-media.com/streaming-media-faq/faq-mp4-streaming.htm
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Thanks.
@bradavon
Thanks for info about 720P playback but without sound which isn't big issue as there is a small work around to fix it.
I've used a latest version of SUPER change the video container to MP4 from MOV and change audio codec to AAC LC didn't touch the video at all by using a direct stream copy for video.
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 103 MiB
Duration : 2mn 30s
Overall bit rate : 5 753 Kbps
Movie name : princeofpersia-tlr1_h720p.mov.MP4
Performer : created with SUPER(C).v2010.bld.37
Encoded date : UTC 2010-04-21 01:26:55
Tagged date : UTC 2010-04-21 01:26:55
Writing application : eRightSoft
Comment : 01:27:29
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2mn 30s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 683 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Stream size : 102 MiB (99%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2010-04-21 00:26:55
Tagged date : UTC 2010-04-21 00:26:55
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 2mn 30s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 63.9 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Stream size : 1.15 MiB (1%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2010-04-21 00:26:55
Tagged date : UTC 2010-04-21 00:26:55
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Here is a result Prince of Persia: the Sands of Time 720P trailer with sound
Look awesome
MediaFire
hassan said:
Thanks for info about 720P playback but without sound which isn't big issue as there is a small work around to fix it.
I've used a latest version of SUPER change the video container to MP4 from MOV and change audio codec to AAC LC didn't touch the video at all by using a direct stream copy for video.
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Thanks Hassan. Good tip. These are all just wrappers after all, with largely MPEG4 inside them. I'll do just that. It would be good to get some working 720p Quicktime trailers on my HTC Desire.
I'll have a look at Prince of Persia, thanks.
I have tried this with movies downloaded from itunes but although the file converted shows the movie reel icon when I try to play it says that the movie cannot be played. Were you simply renaming the .m4v to mp4 using astro?
Converted from what? To what? You'll need to rename it to .mp4 yes. Try this:
In ASTRO, choose "Open As --> Video"
Does it play now? I've found this. I have to "Open As" for it to work from Astro.
It works fine using YXFlash though and nicely still opens .mp4 files using the default HTC Video Player (i.e - if HTC Video Player cannot play the file, like DiVX it uses the YXFlash Player and if it can, it uses the HTC Video Player, all from YXFlash).
benjatt said:
I have tried this with movies downloaded from itunes but although the file converted shows the movie reel icon when I try to play it says that the movie cannot be played. Were you simply renaming the .m4v to mp4 using astro?
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movies downloaded from itunes are protected, thus they cannot be played anywhere but the machine they are downloaded in and connected devices
use rockplayer Best player on android system. Works without problems
Audio: avi mkv rmvb mp4 mov wmv asf wma wav mpg ts mpa dvd au mp3 mid ivf aiff ogm ogg cda flic d2v aac roq flac drc dsm swf pls pmp
Video: AAC AC3 DTS FLV4 LPCM ALAW ULAW MPEG Audio MPEG-1 MPEG-2 RealVideo RealAideo Vorbis AVC VC1 XVID DIVX SVQ Theora Bink
i dont know why no one is talking about "ROCKplayer".......
it plays almost all formats including rmv,m4v,mkv,avi,mp4,mp3,wmv etc
and i love the scrolling in that player its very smooth......!!
as for as i know its the best video player for Android...
harish.awe said:
i dont know why no one is talking about "ROCKplayer".......
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This thread is from April, long before Rockplayer was even at beta stage.
benman27 said:
This thread is from April, long before Rockplayer was even at beta stage.
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Speaking of old and beta's does anybody know what happend to coreplayer? I read sometime ago that it was in development for android, Best player from my winmobile days!
Rockplayer is the best, nothing can match it atm!!!
Had anyone used the galaxy s media player yet?
Is fantastic compared to the media player that was on my hero, and also far better than anything that I have downloaded from the market too.
After 12 months,i finally have a fully functioning and customisable eq on my android device.
Very impressed with this phone in all aspects.
Is the dogs danglies!
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Agreed.... I thought my HD2 player was very good but this one is simply superb.
Plays all my files without a hitch
Hi,
Does the player allow you to see embedded images in podcasts?
can you skip chapters on podcasts?
Thanks.
does it play flac and vbr aac? Alac?
yes this is really a nice and great and fast media player and i love the EQ and sound quality (I keep it on wide =D and custom EQ)
is the organization of tracks as good on the HTCs???
on my i8000 Omnia II for instance, when u go the the "artist" tab, all the artist's songs are just packed there, instead of showing "Albums", which sucks imo...
Does it play unedited 720p and 1080p files. I know there is no point due to screen resolution but it will give an idea about the performance capability of the device.
Mine plays unedited 720p .avi files fine, doesn't seem to like 1080p, but then I've only tried over allshare. I might try copying one to the actual drive and see what happens. Mind you, to my mind, flawless 720p playback from my server upstairs on my phone in the garden is damn near magical anyway .
I seem to be less lucky with .mov, they won't play. Not sure where the files originally came from though, they were Iron Man 2 and, um, something else (Ice Age maybe) trailers in 800x480 mov format. Are we meant to be able to play .mov files on this thing?
umm can anyone rip the app and post it here ? or is that illegal ?
How does it handle Xvid/Divx and MKV scene releases?
What app do you recommend to transfer albums too it ? Where we could perhaps edit the tagged data too?
I've tried using WMP but its clunky and seems to either want to sync everything or have trouble syncing anything?
Ideally I would just like to view whats on the device and edit the alum name, album art etc.
I've seen this http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt & http://www.getsongbird.com/ but never used them before. I loved sharepod for apple devices - I'd like the equivalent
Barkotron said:
Mine plays unedited 720p .avi files fine, doesn't seem to like 1080p, but then I've only tried over allshare. I might try copying one to the actual drive and see what happens. Mind you, to my mind, flawless 720p playback from my server upstairs on my phone in the garden is damn near magical anyway .
I seem to be less lucky with .mov, they won't play. Not sure where the files originally came from though, they were Iron Man 2 and, um, something else (Ice Age maybe) trailers in 800x480 mov format. Are we meant to be able to play .mov files on this thing?
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Video codecs
mpeg4
H.264
H.263
Sorenson codec
DivX HD/ XviD
VC-1
Video formats
3GP (MPEG-4)
WMV (Advanced Systems Format)
AVI (divx)
MKV
FLV
I'm 1 for 2 on 1080p to my tv via Allshare, the fail played but was extremely choppy then quit. The success took a second to load, then stopped, then played from that point on without a hitch (maybe a 3 min test though, don't know about a whole movie)
MichaelWestin said:
How does it handle Xvid/Divx and MKV scene releases?
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It plays them, MKVs can look simply marvelous.
dizzle118 said:
What app do you recommend to transfer albums too it ? Where we could perhaps edit the tagged data too?
I've tried using WMP but its clunky and seems to either want to sync everything or have trouble syncing anything?
Ideally I would just like to view whats on the device and edit the alum name, album art etc.
I've seen this http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt & http://www.getsongbird.com/ but never used them before. I loved sharepod for apple devices - I'd like the equivalent
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DoubleTwist doesn't import FLAC, so I can't call it ideal for an audio junky, that's its biggest flaw as a music transfer (I'm not in love with the software, but it's not bad).
Does the Galaxy S media player come on carrier branded phones? I didn't anything obvious on my captivate.
It plays almost all the formats I own.
Both 720p avi as well as 720p mkv work splendidly. But a huge problem if your into Anime releases. It has a problem with displaying the subs from the mkv files.
avi releases work (the subs are after all embedded in the video)...
Archius said:
yes this is really a nice and great and fast media player and i love the EQ and sound quality (I keep it on wide =D and custom EQ)
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+2 on the player
its an exceptional player
eq better than anything on any device anywhere
the auto eq (i think it reads idtags of files for genre and applies corresponding eq preset) is amazing. I wish i can edit presets tho for the auto eq.
the 5.1 SRS made the already exceptional soundstage of my triplefi even more amazing.
my niggles would be slight in that it doesnt support press twice to next track and press thrice to go back from the inline mic button.
Btw, anybody went and check the service for the mediaplayer
i saw coreplayer service active, but i have no knowledge of coreplayer being ported to android. AFAIK, coreplayer is still purely a winmo app, and a very good one at that, maybe the best in winmo.
But if the one on the SGS is really coreplayer, then it should be good
Galaxy Vibrant subtitles video
vijaykanth said:
It plays almost all the formats I own.
Both 720p avi as well as 720p mkv work splendidly. But a huge problem if your into Anime releases. It has a problem with displaying the subs from the mkv files.
avi releases work (the subs are after all embedded in the video)...
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Extract the ass/ssa file from the video (videohelp.com or use just use mkvtoolnix), save it with the same title as the video file, upload both on the phone (SD or Internal memory). Download mVideoPlayer from the market and play the file. I tried it myself yesterday. It works I tried seitokai yakuindomo from [Ayako] at 720p.
Enjoy
Dunno if I'm as big of a fan of the media player...
When I try to open a .wmv I get either 'File type wmv not found' (in Astro file manager) or when it does try to open (when opening it in root explorer) a 'Not supported file type' message... This for multiple different wmv's (they play fine in rockplayer btw).
Also the same for an .mp4 file. A 'This video can not be played' message...
Anyone else with the same issues? Rockplayer plays all my files perfectly but if the built in app could do the same that would be great...
k2snowboards88 said:
does it play flac and vbr aac? Alac?
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From the Samsung Specs page:
Music
Music Player with SoundAlive
3.5mm Ear Jack
MP3/AAC/AAC+/eAAC+/OGG/WMA/AMR-NB/AMR-WB/WAV/
MID/AC3/IMY/FLAC/XMF
Mine doesn't play WAV Files, at least not the one that I tried, so who knows?
MichaelWestin said:
How does it handle Xvid/Divx and MKV scene releases?
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Depends on resolution and bitrate of course. It can easily play XviD DVD rips and such.
where are the playlists stored?
Hello XDA people,
I own an ePad and an HTC HD2.
When I put an MKV 720P file (probably encoded with x264) on my microSD card, the ePad plays it perfectly with Act one video player. When I try it using my HD2 its says "android media server died". And rockplayer can only software decode it, which is very slow and laggy.
Is there any way I can simply download and watch my HD TV series? The SD versions work but it's just not very sharp.
Tim
An hd movie played on the hd2 will only be 480x800, so it's still watching a sd movie in that case. >.>
That's true, however, when I grab the SD version of the TV show, it's 624x352 and a lower bitrate. So you can see a difference. Also, if I download the HD version I can still decide to watch it on my laptop and fully enjoy the resolution, rather than having to download the HD and SD version.
A friend with a Galaxy S tried to play an 720P MKV, and it plays it very well with hardware encoding, so I guess it's a driver issue?
Yes it is a driver issue, or more like it's not built in. Our snapdragon doesn't know how to process mkv files.
timleferink said:
Hello XDA people,
I own an ePad and an HTC HD2.
When I put an MKV 720P file (probably encoded with x264) on my microSD card, the ePad plays it perfectly with Act one video player. When I try it using my HD2 its says "android media server died". And rockplayer can only software decode it, which is very slow and laggy.
Is there any way I can simply download and watch my HD TV series? The SD versions work but it's just not very sharp.
Tim
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When you say "properly encoded with x264", what profile are you using? I used the wrong profile in Handbrake and ended up with choppy/laggy video on my HD2. Fixing the encoding options (read the tooltips on the Advanced tab in the latest version of Handbrake) results in a larger file (because it's compressed less-aggressively, so the player doesn't need to do so much work) that plays just fine on my HD2.
I've been ripping my DVDs and making .mp4s from them in Handbrake just fine. They're encoded to 720p and all play without any problems.
(Although Handbrake seems to have problems with using the correct height, but that's a HB problem).
Hello,
Do you think it will be possible to have hardware encoding any time soon? Or wil this never work?
@Splines
I actually ment 'probably', in this case the episode was downloaded from a newsgroup.
The video Data is:
"Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=4, N=5
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 21mn 52s
Bit rate : 3 120 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.141
Stream size : 477 MiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 110 r1804 e89c4cf"
What player do you use to watch the video's if I may ask?
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Hello,
Do you think it will be possible to have hardware encoding any time soon? Or wil this never work?
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I doubt it, especially because Leo is a WinMo device, not Android, which means hardware manufacturers will not provide drivers or code to achieve this.
timleferink said:
Hello,
Do you think it will be possible to have hardware encoding any time soon? Or wil this never work?
@Splines
I actually ment 'probably', in this case the episode was downloaded from a newsgroup.
The video Data is:
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What player do you use to watch the video's if I may ask?
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(I'd linkify my links, but I"m a new users here and the forum software won't let me).
See the table here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profile
From your video meta-data, it's encoded with the "High" profile. I'm not familiar with the H.264 decoding algorithms, but I'm willing to bet that you won't find any video player on your HD2 that can decode that video in real-time.
Most mobile devices adhere to the Baseline Profile (BP). Here's what you need to do: Go and install Handbrake. Run it and create a new device profile (click "Add" in the bottom right-hand corner).
Switch to the Advanced tab and make sure yours looks like this: i.imgur.com/AEkFf.png
Right click on the new profile you created, and click "Save Changes".
Now, you might need to muck with the picture size on the first tab, but that's not too important since you're just trying to get the video playing smoothly.
Load your source video, and encode it to a new file. It should play just perfectly on your HD2.
I've tried several video players, and when I had the encoding options wrong, the only one that worked was VitalPlayer, but I had artifacts all over the screen. With these settings, any player that actually works in my ROM loads and plays the video just fine (ironically, VitalPlayer doesn't work in the ROM I have flashed right now). The stock video player, Meridian, mVideoPlayer, Zimly, all work fine. I suspect that the majority of the video players in the app store use the same engine to decode the video.
I tried recoding the file. It now plays better, but still only 10fps and the video is running behind. No other options I guess? Recoding to 800x480 is way to much of a hastle for me.
This is a major setback, I'll see if someone with a Desire can test it.
Get a better version of RockPlayer and try again. Look at the ARMv7 links on the right...
http://rockplayer.freecoder.org/index_en.html
I found that a LOT better than the version available on the market.
Too bad, tried the latest version and got the same results.
Do you think a desire build would be better since it also has a snapdragon cpu?
Tim
Hi guys,
I can play normal SD avi's etc perfectly. 720p MKV's video also clean, but no sound.
Tried Moboplayer - no sound
VPlayer - sound, video laggy
mVideoPlayer - doesnt play the 720p mkv
Running 10.1v on Android 3.0.1
I recently came across BUZZPlayer on the market and I've been in contact with them via email, where they claim its plays any file without conversion, and can also play from a smb share...
Havent tried it yet.....has anyone had any experience with this?
rockplayer?
Do you know what audiocodec is used in the mkv?
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rockplayer?
Do you know what audiocodec is used in the mkv?
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Hi, vlc reports:
Type: Audio
Codec: A52 Audio (aka AC3) (a52 )
Sample rate: 48000 Hz
Bitrate: 384 kb/s
I have no sound too when i use Hardware Decoding, when i use software i have sound but the frame rate drops and is unwatchable, i`m using rockplayer
I've tried all kinds of video players. I just don't think Android 3.0.1 or 3.1 and Tegra 2 are capable of playing 720P MKV files.
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I've tried all kinds of video players. I just don't think Android 3.0.1 or 3.1 and Tegra 2 are capable of playing 720P MKV files.
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you cannot be serious! lol
on a more somber note, i'm new to this game but i hope your statement is untrue.
if not, this is an epic fail.
The main reason I bought the tab for my dad was so he could freely sync between multiple computers without the help of iTunes and could stream/play most xvid and divx media
I can play some 720P AVI and MP4 files, but 720 MKV's have all been a no-go.
Either video is laggy/freezes. Audio is out of sync. Or no audio.
On Tegra 2 there are no hardware decoder for AC3 sound track (thanks to NVidia/Google/Dolby Licensing org etc. ), so when MKV uses Dolby sound - there is no hardware support so it has to be played in software.
Unfortunately, non of android players can play video with hardware decoder and sound with software (or they just not implemented that way).
Bottom line, 720p and up video is problematic on current Tegra2 devices.
You have couple options:
Sometimes, this issue may be lessen by overclocking Tegra2 from standard 1Ghz to 1.5Ghz - hefty 50% increase in performance, so it kind of manage to play 720p mkv files using software decoder...
Or just re-encode sound track into WMA or something which has hardware driver for Tegra2.
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On Tegra 2 there are no hardware decoder for AC3 sound track (thanks to NVidia/Google/Dolby Licensing org etc. ), so when MKV uses Dolby sound - there is no hardware support so it has to be played in software.
Unfortunately, non of android players can play video with hardware decoder and sound with software (or they just not implemented that way).
Bottom line, 720p and up video is problematic on current Tegra2 devices.
You have couple options:
Sometimes, this issue may be lessen by overclocking Tegra2 from standard 1Ghz to 1.5Ghz - hefty 50% increase in performance, so it kind of manage to play 720p mkv files using software decoder...
Or just re-encode sound track into WMA or something which has hardware driver for Tegra2.
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On the sticker covering the tablet screen, it clearly states it can play and record 720p and 1080p. Bastards! I suppose we will get HD playback when the device is obsolete? The point of getting the device when it comes out is so that we can enjoy features we never had before. Turns out, after they taken our money, that Samsung just lied to the world and their piece of crap cant actually play 720/1080p. There must be a codec out there that can do something, I mean come on, WTF.
What the hell is that dual core, Nvidia Tegra gpu device doing with all its hardware? !!!!!
EDIT: Ok, I've been in contact with the developers of BUZZPlayer on Android market. Apparently they claim it can play 720/1080, and that their player is one of the best. Its not free, but its cheap. I am going to give it a try this evening, but I am a bit skeptical. So far the only 2 apps I did buy were both non functional and I got refunded. The issue with Android market is theres loads of crap mixed in with the good stuff. I even see theres an app that filters out all the garbage apps from the market.
Will give an update after I've tested BuzzPlayer.
Apart from Buzzplayer, theres only VLC, which isnt finished yet, which we can hope plays everything. I specifically got this device cause it has the hardware so u dont have to convert stuff. I dont want to convert!
All of you pulling your hair out about thinking the GT10.1 cannot play HD video need to step away from the keyboard, make yourself a cocktail and take a deep breath. It will be okay, I promise. The GT10.1 can and does record and play HD video. For those of you trying to play .mkv files please understand that Matroska (.mkv) is nothing more than a container (think of it like a wrapper around your favorite candy). Inside that container are files for audio, video, subtitles, metadata, etc. The audio and video files are compressed into some format (codec) that can only be played correctly if the device doing the playing has the decoder to read said codec. Tons of people are having no issues playing 720p .mkv files simply because the audio and video codecs in that particular file are supported by their player. The most frequent video codec in .mkv containers is H-264. Audio on the other is typically found in AC3 (as this supports full Dolby Digital surround sound) but can be found in many different codecs. So, if your .mkv video file has H-264 video and AC3 audio but your player does not support either (or both) of these.... then your options are to transcode the audio or video to a supported format (which can be done while maintaining the .mkv wrapper mind you) or find a player that supports the code in your original file. Now, be aware that if you transcode, this results in exponential data compression and thus loss of data. So, audio loses its fidelity and video loses its clarity. Think what happens to the quality of an orginal letter or document when you make a photocopy of a photocopy of photocopy. In order to avoid this you must create the encodings from an uncompressed wave form (directly from the DVD or BluRay) and then place those in wrapper (like .avi or .mkv etc). This is the process of ripping a DVD.
None of this is new. It has been the case LONG before the GT10.1 was released. The perceived problem is exacerbated by people thinking (at no fault of their own) that .mkv (Matroska video) is simply some magical file format that delivers movies in full HD goodness. Its like everything else in the audio/video world on computers, it is always a function of codecs and decoders. E.g. just because I can speak German does not mean you understand me simply because we are having a conversation. You must also understand German.
Sorry for the diatribe, just wanted to clear the air on where the issue lies here. I do think that VLC will be solution for most everyone out there not knowing how to or not willing to play around with encoding audio and video. I know how to do this and I don't even want to do it. VLC should offer support for the popular .mkv file components out there and (most of) our woes will be over. Lets just hope VLC drops there app sooner rather than later!
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Please do a easy search on google or on xda on Tegra2 video or Tegra2 mkv. Or go to forums about Asus Transformer and Motorola Xoom and you will find answers on all your video questions.
Its a known issue that Tegra cannot handle "high profile" video in .mkv container. Thats way some people wanted Exynos instead of Tegra.
All most every x264 video you download is high profile and need to
Galaxy tab can handle 720/1080 without problem if the video is coded in the right way.
A great program for converting video is DVDCATALYST and use the XOOM preset setting.
Or you can use this easy program that just change the container and audio so kt can be played on Tegra devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092965&highlight=video
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bd85 said:
Please do a easy search on google or on xda on Tegra2 video or Tegra2 mkv.
Its a known issue that Tegra can handle "high profile" video in .mkv container. Thats way some people wanted Exynos instead of Tegra.
Galaxy tab can handle 720/1080 without problem if the video have the right format.
A great program for converting video is DVDCATALYST and use the XOOM preset setting.
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First off, the GT10.1 can play HD mkv files, one is playing in the background as I am writing this. I will post some pictures and more info on the mkv file later.
second, like I said before, be aware that simply transcoding your audio and/or video to a different format results in exponential compression of the original wave form and thus data loss. If you are truly wanting to watch and listen to your movie in HD you must keep this in mind.
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it'll play hd fine. you just have to follow the strict specs to make sure you have a playable file.
no ac3, no mkv container (you can transcode to .mp4 if it's not over high profile 3.1), and may struggle with multichannel audio if you're over SD resolution.
there are plenty of posts on how to transcode or reencode your files for playback on a tegra 2 device in the xoom and transformer forums.
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First off, the GT10.1 can play HD mkv files, one is playing in the background as I am writing this. I will post some pictures and more info on the mkv file later.
second, like I said before, be aware that simply transcoding your audio and/or video to a different format results in exponential compression of the original wave form and thus data loss. If you are truly wanting to watch and listen to your movie in HD you must keep this in mind.
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Were in my previously post did i say that it wont play mkv?
The "problem" and that i was pointing at is that it cannot play mkv with "high profile". And 90% off all videos and series episodes that people download is just HP.
And HD is a wide word and can means many things for different users.
Is HD a video with bitrate ~4000kbps and resolution 1280*720? Or is it a video with bitrate ~30000kbps and 1280*720?
A video can have high resolution and still look really bad on screen and some videos have lower res and looks good.
Have had a Xoom for some months and i have found that DVDCATALYST is the easiest way to make your videos play fine on Tegra devices.
http://www.tools4movies.com/
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Like I mention before, there is no Tegra2 AC3 nvidia decoder/driver available.
I can see only AAC, DTS, MP3, WAV, WMA and WMA pro formats have some kind of hardware acceleration.
There is no way 3-party media player developers can write nvidia's hardware codecs ot its own, they just used them if available in corresponding media player (RockPlayer, VLC etc.)...
If hardware codec is not accessible then most of them use GPL software decoding libs.
So, I would not expect VLC or any other player can do any better then another one.
then how on earth does rockplayer manage to play AC3 sound when I choose Software decoding, but then the video is laggy. Switch to Hardware decoding and video is perfect, no sound....????
Really confused...
dudleygb said:
then how on earth does rockplayer manage to play AC3 sound when I choose Software decoding, but then the video is laggy. Switch to Hardware decoding and video is perfect, no sound....????
Really confused...
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Because software decoding uses more resources and is not the ideal decoding solution (can be laggy). The software supports both the audio and video codecs, so they work.
The hardware doesn't support the audio codec, so no sound when in hardware mode.
That's why I love the Original Samsung Galaxy Tab 7. it has 720p/1080p high profile .mkv (no lag) playback, AC3, divx, xvid, .srt subtitle support. All with just a single core hummingbird SOC. (I just wish it were 10.1 inches)
I had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab 10.1, but Samsung didn't put as much effort into the movie player as they did with the 7.
Hopefully, now that Toshiba has issued a challenge with their new AT200 tablet, a Samsung Exynos tablet is just around the corner.
Not sure what people are confused about. MKV is dead, obsolete, and unsupported by current and all future devices. Stop using MKV and you wont have issues. No reason to be using MKV to begin with, no reason at all.
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I've tried all kinds of video players. I just don't think Android 3.0.1 or 3.1 and Tegra 2 are capable of playing 720P MKV files.
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Can you make me a favor and test this 720p MKV sample I made, in all mkv supported players?
I just want to know if you have any lag or audio issues, thanks.
Code:
General
Unique ID : 252531305559327787326636083115925852923 (0xBDFBC2A4CD848FEAB63D58675A9A52FB)
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 36.7 MiB
Duration : 1mn 49s
Overall bit rate : 2 826 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-02 17:28:55
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.9.1 ('Ich will') built on Jul 11 2011 23:53:15
Writing library : libebml v1.2.1 + libmatroska v1.1.1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1mn 49s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 116 r2074 2641b9e
Encoding settings : cabac=0 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=2500 / vbv_bufsize=2500 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 1mn 49s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Language : English
Use dice player and be happy. It will handle most of the videos and audio without any issues. There's a thread in the app and theme section. You will dind most of ur questions answered.
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