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Hi,
I have my legend from 3 week s now, and very pleased with it... I has a Hero before and happy to play now with Android 2.1... However... I'm a little bit disapointed with the quality of my network signal nd some other bug that I hadn't on my hero...
Problems...
Wifi signal and Network GSM signal often bad or lower quality than previously... Is that normal and know for future dev...
Browser often doesn't load the Internet page when signal is not good and stop working or show the error loading message, and even if my signal is ok...
So basically my radio version is...
47.26.35.04U_7.05.35.26L
2.6.29-9a3026a7
Build 1.23.405.1 CL139791
Can you help me, is a new rom or radio planned for soon...
thx
Buzz
Buzz
did you compare the performance of your Legend with another phone?
my Legend is underperforming compare to my HTC Cruise, but I'm using H3G here in Italy, running only on 3G network.
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No i do not compare I juste have problem qith signal quality at all... And yes compared to my hero, it is worst...
Same here, bad WiFi or Edge/3G performance compared with my iPhone 3GS or some other phones I've tested (at the exact same location).
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I haven't tested my Legend side-by-side with other phones, but I have an overall feeling that my old HTC Magic was more stable wrt GSM/3G networking.
The main problem for me is that quite often Legend cannot keep connections/phone calls alive when switching between EDGE and 3G networks. I've never had such problems with Magic (on the same operator, Swisscom in my case).
I'm not sure if this happens because of weaker reception, a bug in the Legend's radio, or some sort of incompatibility with my operator's network. (The old Magic was Swisscom-branded, so maybe it was tweaked for Swisscom in some way).
same here
I can confirm radio is generally weak with Legend. It loses GSM/3G connection completely in places where my previous phones (HTC Snap & Magic) were showing weak signal but were still holding connection. Same goes with Wi Fi unfortunately. My conclusion: Legend's radio is weaker compared to other phones. Don't get me wrong - you may never experience any problems if GSM/3G/Wi Fi signal is strong in your areas of inhabbitance. But in my case (work phone - so got to be reachable 24/7) it looks like Legend has Failed.
I've had a magic, hero and nexus one before the legend, and for me the legend seems weaker than hero/magic (which are the same in my experience) but MUCH better than the nexs one.#
Overall the legend has been ok though, the only annoying thing I've experienced is when I go into a no signal area (e.g. underground) and come back, it sometimes doesn't pick up a signal again and stays on no network until I switch off and on. Annoying if it's in your pocket and you've not noticed for a while...
Bad Wifi
I've had the Legend for 2 days now and I'm experiencing severe problems with radio.
Specifically wifi:
* Signal on Legend is VERY low compared to Hero
* I'm also loosing connection all the time, where my Hero was extremely stable
* Problem is worse when I'm using my laptop's wifi at the same time
- When laptop is turned off, wifi is somewhat stable on the Legend, when I'm surfing the web on my laptop AND using wifi on the Legend, I seem to have problems with both. I loose connection on the Legend and wifi on laptop is very slow. When Legend wifi is off, I have no problem whatsoever.
* I sometimes have problems accessing Market, Browser and other apps that require net access.
* Switching between wifi and 3G/Edge seems slow and doesn't always work
I AM comparing the Hero and Legend at the same time. I have no problem with Hero and Laptop running at the same time, only Legend and laptop!
Edit: I now about "early adopter syndrome" where they release something before it's finished. BUT this really isn't a new product in that respect, it's supposed to be an improvement. I did not get the Legend for this hassle. If it persists and nothing is gained from my email to HTC, I'm returning it as a defect product.
Can someone expert here give us more info about this and future dev or problem source ? As for me Even if I like the legend I can not understand how they can launch a device giving lower result that it's previous version : the htc hero... ???
Sooooo, Hero radio is ok and get's good signal strength........Hero is made of plastic. Legend radio is weak, drops connection a lot....Legend is made of aluminum. Is it possible that we will never get good reception on the Legend, that it's not a bug, but a weakness with the metal used. Like The first iPhone......and why they are doing glass/ceramic back in the 4G iPhone....
Just asking...I have the Legend as well if you think I'm dissing the Legend here.
nexus one is plastic and from my experience has considerably worse signal strength
The problem for me is more on the wifi reception even if signal is 3/4 I experience a lot of time error in the internet browser, and it become unusefull...
I juste ahad a reply from the HTC support and SO PLEASE SEND THEM A REQUEST IF YOU EXPERIENCE THE SAME PROBLEM as they told me not too much people 've reported actually this problem so they can not sent the development to the dev team...
"New Response
Dear Thank you for your enquiry about htc legend. We regret but as far as we are concern there is not known issue on htc legend regarding the radio and wifi. Once we have a big number of customers with a similar case then we will report this issue to our developers in order to create an update, but currently we do not have enough of examples. If these steps have not helped, please let me know by responding using the link provided and I will be happy to check again for you. Best regards, Ivona HTC customer support team HTC Corp. Global Service Division http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
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i have not had any reception issues with my legend. however the fm radio is terrible lol
noobdeagle said:
i have not had any reception issues with my legend. however the fm radio is terrible lol
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FM Radio depends on your headphones/earphones since it uses that wire as an antenna.
I don't have anything to compare against, though I am pretty disappointed with the wifi reception... Does it use the ring around the camera lens as the antenna?
Has anyone tried WiFi Fixer?
I've been told that the Legend has trouble with Dlink routers. I have a Dlink 825 and my Hero had no trouble with this router. But with the Legend, I'm experiencing dropped signals and interference with my Laptop connection when the Legend is connected as well. My friend then replaced the same router with a Zyxel one and has full coverage.
Im having the same issues..even when i have strong wifi signal, it often cannot connect to anything and I have to turn wifi off and on. (netgear router)
I also have issues with 3G, the signal is all over the place...when other phones have a good signal, sometimes when i come from standby the signal is gone completely (showing a 'x' on the signal bar), this is in the middle of the city with strong signal from all other phones!
I have turned off 3G and using only GSM and have not had problems since.
stanace said:
FM Radio depends on your headphones/earphones since it uses that wire as an antenna.
I don't have anything to compare against, though I am pretty disappointed with the wifi reception... Does it use the ring around the camera lens as the antenna?
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well compared to my cowon S9 radio which is perfect the legend is useless. yes i know that its related to the headphones but if a pair of Q-Jays isnt good enough than i dont know what is
as for the internal recievers i have started to have a problem with the mobile data connection. even in a strong location it just doesnt recieve im betting its a software issue tho cause it reads full strength and still does it sometimes a reset of the phone makes it work again but it will randomly cut off after its been on for a while
No problems with wi-fi here (whereas my TP2 sometimes struggles to initially connect) but the GSM radio performance is below what my TP2 gets in the same location. GPRS is possible however. Don't have 3G signal here.
Not sure whether this indicates a big problem as have only had Legend for 1 day but have seen "emergency calls only" quite a few times It kinda comes and goes.
Having said that, the TP2 was a bit flakey here (all mobile network signals aren't great here at home) until the 4.xx.xx.91 radio ROM upgrade, now it's better. (started on 3.something, whatever Voda initially released the 6.1 TP2 with ... I forget tbh)
Hopefully we will see a radio upgrade.
paradoxni said:
Im having the same issues..even when i have strong wifi signal, it often cannot connect to anything and I have to turn wifi off and on. (netgear router)
I also have issues with 3G, the signal is all over the place...when other phones have a good signal, sometimes when i come from standby the signal is gone completely (showing a 'x' on the signal bar), this is in the middle of the city with strong signal from all other phones!
I have turned off 3G and using only GSM and have not had problems since.
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I have exactly the same problem on both wifi and 3G, it deconnect even if signal is ok... and I Have to turn it off and turn it on... Can a specialist confirm this and tell me if the problem come from our phone, the radio firmware or the mattalic case of the legend ???
THX
I have trying to use the HD2 over the last 3 days and getting real problems with intermittent signal loss.
I know i have low signal from the mobile operator in some parts of my home but that has never been a problem with other HTC phones i used before. If the signal was too weak it would just drop out but come back if i moved a bit.
With the HD2 once the signal indicator turns red it stays that way even if i move to a strong signal area.
The weird thing is sometimes i would leave the phone sitting in one place with four bars and then minutes later it would show up with no signal and i can't receive calls.
Even stranger is that in all these cases where there is no apparent signal, all i need to do is press the send button to try making a call and the signal "magically" re-appears and all is fine. I've tried at least four differnt radios as well as the energy ROM ... no change.
Any ideas ? this is reaallly frustrating!!!!!!
do the problems resemble what I experienced here?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6808114#post6808114
ieh said:
I have trying to use the HD2 over the last 3 days and getting real problems with intermittent signal loss.
I know i have low signal from the mobile operator in some parts of my home but that has never been a problem with other HTC phones i used before. If the signal was too weak it would just drop out but come back if i moved a bit.
With the HD2 once the signal indicator turns red it stays that way even if i move to a strong signal area.
The weird thing is sometimes i would leave the phone sitting in one place with four bars and then minutes later it would show up with no signal and i can't receive calls.
Even stranger is that in all these cases where there is no apparent signal, all i need to do is press the send button to try making a call and the signal "magically" re-appears and all is fine. I've tried at least four differnt radios as well as the energy ROM ... no change.
Any ideas ? this is reaallly frustrating!!!!!!
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reijkelhof said:
do the problems resemble what I experienced here?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6808114#post6808114
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change radio ROM, well experiment with several of them by trial and error (read the sticky/tutorial first).
OR
buy an indoor signal booster.
Well, regardless of the radio version ive had really odd intermitant service.
the best way ive found to help this is turn off 3G / HSDPA
Doing this forces the device to remain on GPRS, it means the battery lasts a hell of a lot longer and it doent drop the connection every time the device feels like trying to connect with HSDPA or drops it for no apparent reason.
reijkelhof said:
do the problems resemble what I experienced here?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6808114#post6808114
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it seem that you were losing data connection .... i'm a lot worse off ... i lose data AND voice .. all connectivity ... so i don't receive calls
as i said the weird thing is as soon as press send to initiate a call,cthe signal bars come back and everything works fine!!
as i said, stop 3G from working, when switching between the two due to what ever reason the HD2 decides to drop it will kill your connection, voice and all until it switches back. there is an issue with 3G and im wondering if its everyone or just folk using TMOUS radio and thus recieving the extra RAM
To disable 3G/HSDPA to test,
Open Comm Manager and click on Phone (not the on/off switch) to go to phone options. Scroll to bottom and select BAND. Switch network type from Auto to GSM.
3G/HSDPA is only needed for internet surfing. Time, weather, stock updates and email downloads don't really benefit from it. So turning it off this way will make these type data connections go through the EDGE network which is plenty fast enough for it. When you need to surf the net, go back and switch it to Auto and you will get 3G or faster speeds for that.
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To disable 3G/HSDPA to test,
Open Comm Manager and click on Phone (not the on/off switch) to go to phone options. Scroll to bottom and select BAND. Switch network type from Auto to GSM.
3G/HSDPA is only needed for internet surfing. Time, weather, stock updates and email downloads don't really benefit from it. So turning it off this way will make these type data connections go through the EDGE network which is plenty fast enough for it. When you need to surf the net, go back and switch it to Auto and you will get 3G or faster speeds for that.
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I disagree. My emails have timed out using edge.
same prob here
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I disagree. My emails have timed out using edge.
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hello im having the same problem..no voice or data i push my send button an then i get signal,my wife has a hd7 and my son has a hd2 they will have 3 to 4 bars and i show no signal.push talk and i get 1 to 2 bars.
have you found a fix?
You could always try a signal booster on eBay for like 5...
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If its just 3G then its probable just T-Mobile or then again a Hardware/Firmware issue
try a different ROM, Radio
I have this same issue I running a T-Mobile USA (using radio 2.12 but then again it was doing it on 2.15 as well) and it just drops all connectivity and says no service I have to search the network again.
My phone is unlocked I don't know if that might have anything to do with it as well
I've had this problem on my HD2 since i got it.
Edge (E), works but slow as all get out. 2-4s ping times or time outs. 3G (and when i say 3G i mean when it says 3G in the status bar) doesn't work at all. HSDPA (H) works great, WHEN it stays that way, which it doesn't.
It can switch between 3G to H every 10 seconds.
And i'm using it for tethering primarily, which makes working painful. Lose your VPN and SSH sessions constantly. Some days it's ok. But most, horrible. btw, i'm in the Denver area.
I've tried stock roms and custom roms (primarily Energy). All radios. Nothing fixes it!
This is the only thing I don't like about my HD2 and/or t-mobile. And it's a whopper. I'm almost ready to get another phone or carrier, depending on what's causing this.
-Tony
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I've had this problem on my HD2 since i got it.
Edge (E), works but slow as all get out. 2-4s ping times or time outs. 3G (and when i say 3G i mean when it says 3G in the status bar) doesn't work at all. HSDPA (H) works great, WHEN it stays that way, which it doesn't.
It can switch between 3G to H every 10 seconds.
And i'm using it for tethering primarily, which makes working painful. Lose your VPN and SSH sessions constantly. Some days it's ok. But most, horrible. btw, i'm in the Denver area.
I've tried stock roms and custom roms (primarily Energy). All radios. Nothing fixes it!
This is the only thing I don't like about my HD2 and/or t-mobile. And it's a whopper. I'm almost ready to get another phone or carrier, depending on what's causing this.
-Tony
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I have 4 HD2's with one having the problem you describe and have come to the conclusion it's a hardware issue. Probably a cold solder joint on the antenna lead.
In WinMo or Android the signal bars jump all over the place but the signal level in 'about phone' shows a constant signal even though the bars show nothing. I don't drop to many calls but miss more than a few incoming. I travel for 5-8 hrs in the same area everyday and very familiar of good and bad areas of reception. I have tried stock/cooked ROM's/Radio's with no noticeable difference.
I'll probably send mine in to HTC to be looked at.
This might force me to use samsungs dead-on-arrival-refund and switch to the both uglier and slower Desire Unless you have a solution.
The phone finds several networks where two are associated with my telecom-provider. One is old gsm and one is 3g/H. I search and manually picks out the 3g-network and gets an H-connection with 2 mbps (max for what I pay for). But this only lasts for about 10 - 20 seconds, then it falls back to the gsm-network.
So to speek, it overrides my manually selected network and uses an automatic pick and i get gsm with crappy 56 kbps.
I have done this:
1. a new sim-card (telecom sent me one)
2. Resetted the phone (samsung asked me to do this)
The problem is still there and samsung now say I should send it back to them...
But what are the odds that it will work on another device... the problem is probably a combination of phone + telenetwork. The simcard works perfectly in the same location on the Touch HD (blackstone) and the sales-dude that also claims to have an SGS with another network have no problems.
Swedish telecom-provider: TELE2
Help...! I dont wanna switch to a 9 month old desire and the desire hd looks like the specs are the same as sgs without the samoled and a too large 4,3" screen.
Have you asked the sales dude which firmware he is using? This sounds a bit software related. It can definitely be teleco, however I think you're paying a premium doing more than keeping up appearances should be important to them.
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Did you try setting the phone on "WCDMA ONLY" in the network menu?
Every time the phone gets a stronger GSM signal, it will switch to gsm, just like any other phone.
Just disable GSM.
hmmm no i have not tried that... sounds quite promissing, but if it works that will result in no network at all if i go outside a 3g-area, right?
I have stock rom at eclair.xwjfb - i90000xxjf5
But where do i find this option? from a secret code?
in the network-menu i only have "use only 2g networks"
EDIT
Found this:
*#*#4636#*#* for battery and other general setttings like GSM/CDMA
Testing.....
EDIT
No change
I set it to WCDMA ONLY and tried all the other options as well. Most of them resulted in to network access.
###! this sounded so good
so all i have to do is type that number i get the option to only use 3G covarge right? is that how you did it?
Tackar!
yes but read it again - did NOT work
are you having the same problem with tele2?
Ah okey, such a shame. Nope, i'm using Halebop, but if you have this problem i might also experiance it aswell, hopefully not though..
But my phone had a really strange problem which caused me to send it back, it lost the signal completly, like i had no simcard in it. This could accur around 20min-4 hours, and i seem to be the only one affected by this.. really strange, hopefully i'll get my phone back soon without this problem, whatever it might be..
im returning it today as a d-o-a and will hopefully get a new one that works. Would really be a shame to let go of such a nice handset!
the wifi-radio cant stay connected to dynamic ips either, something that clearly works for others with sgs
Just replace it with another. I think your unit is defective.
There have been no reports of network problems with the SGS, and personally, i live in a place with terrible coverage, but when i set to WCDMA only it still somehow manages to maintain a good signal.
surely this could also be due to not all places being covered by 3g signal.
possibly but not likely sinse i can manually force it to use another network and then max out the payed bandwith of 2 mbps easily, but only for a very short period of time...
anyway, its sent away now. Hopefully they fix this fast
On my s2 when using 3g full bars I get no activity no internet whatsoever, this has been an issue from day one, using stock rom o2 or custom roms. Anybody getting the same problem? And is there a solution?
Ps but as soon as it switches to H, it works fine.
I was working today and using as a hotspot, and I was in area where it was just 3G, with full bars, and could not get on the net.
This is a bit of grrrrr moment. HTC desire no problem at all.
Anybody have any ideas?
have you altered any system settings? Try the SiM card from your HTC Desire.
Finally, try hard reset.
not altered anything . I used my virgin sim on desire and s2(same sim)
And how to hard reset on this thing?
Thanks for caring.
Here are the problems sorted by number of individual posts in descending order:
1) Battery
2) Wi-Fi
3) GPS
4) Sound
5) Camera
6) Screen
7) 2G/3G
While the 2G/3G problems people are experiencing are no doubt real, the magnitude is relatively low. People who changed carriers or used SIM cards from other carriers seemed to have had their problems go away. I know this isn't what you wanted to here but, compared to some of the other problems, this isn't a widespread issue and appears to be carrier/locale specific.
That is NORMAL it means you are in good area where it supports 3.5G / H
so when you use data it uses 3.5G and not 3G. It reverts back to 3G when you are not using the internet. Nothing crazy. It is normal. Search next time.
dk206
You are missing the point, in,certain areas where there is NO 3G+, ONLY 3G I get no internet, is this NORMAL too? Read first.
with all respect to all seniors, that is not a simple issue, basically there is no solution till now, some people working on replacements others waiting for cooked roms, i have this issue since two weeks now and i can assure you that a lot have the same issue, more didn't find out yet because simply the issue is unstable data connection which prevent you from using VOIP & Wifi hotspot, when ever the connection is turning from H+ to 3G it drops, anyways some links below having same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073958&page=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074396&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088727
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066710
a lot of people in MEA have this issue as well.
Hassanalaa said:
with all respect to all seniors, that is not a simple issue, basically there is no solution till now, some people working on replacements others waiting for cooked roms, i have this issue since two weeks now and i can assure you that a lot have the same issue, more didn't find out yet because simply the issue is unstable data connection which prevent you from using VOIP & Wifi hotspot, when ever the connection is turning from H+ to 3G it drops, anyways some links below having same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073958&page=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074396&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088727
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066710
a lot of people in MEA have this issue as well.
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I just did some troubleshooting and found out using vodafon qatar sim solved the issue..on Qtel the problem persist.so for me i guess got to wait till SGS2 is launched in the middle east for samsung to update their firmware for carriers here.
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I'm in Poland, one carrier's PREpaid didn't work, then another carrier's POSTpaid worked flawlessly, so I got that working carrier's PREpaid and after working initially it stopped now. My question is: do you think the 3g loss might be prepaid/postpaid issue?
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I really doubt that it has to do with carriers, the phone's "3G" just doesnt work, it seems to want use HSDPA and up.
They really need to bring out a fix for this.
How long did they take to finally bring this phone out... Still no where near to getting it right. Shame, this could so easily be the best.
After being frustrated by no activity on 3G, I decided to try uskr's data fix. Although skeptical that it would fix anything, I tried it!
Amazingly enough, IT WORKED!
It really did, on one bar of pure 3G I get 0.3 down speed on speedtest on the phone and through hot spot.
The fix involves editing /system/build.prop
I add
ro.ril.enable.dtm=1
ro.ril.gprsclass=12
ro.ril.enable.3g.prefix=1
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=28
ro.ril.hsupa.category=9
ro.ril.hsxpa=3
To the bottom of the file using Root Explorer's text editor, on a rooted SG2.
Big ups to uskr
I and my father have a new SGS2. When I connect to Wifi, no problems at all. On BOTH, the internet connection is very slow, with stops and always changing H... 3G... H....... If I connect to my old phone, the speed is fine, so it's not the local provider. My SGS2 has a lot of apps in it, and my father's one is stock ready and new, but the problem is the same for both. Also it spends a lot of battery.
Some people are complaining about this problem, is there a solution?
Try disabling fast dormancy.
how do you disable fast dormancy?
cheers
Change network setting to gsm only mode if it still come you might consider to chanhe the sim card, like i plan to.
I also using this gt p1000 with different sim card and it happened more faster browsing rather than this dual core gt i9100
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Probably due to the radio sucking. There are others you can flash to...not sure which is best.
Are you by chance on AT&T in the US? Anyone know of the best radio for this phone on AT&T?
I also get very slow internet comnection in areas where high speed UMTS is not available. Actually, in these areas the phone is so slow that it always looses communication with the server. Practically, internet does not work AT ALL!
I'm really tired of being regularly pissed off by this phone and its many defects!
UPDATE:
Just tried disabling fast dormancy by using the hidden service menu *#9900#
It looks like at least now commection works. Speed is not optimal but that may be normal because at the moment I am in an area not covered by H+ connection.
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YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Forget what I just said in the post above. It only worked for a few minutes, and then I'm back with no connection. It looks like this phone is rather deaf to 3G networks. But again, I may be wrong. The thruth is that I am desperately struggling to make this bloody phone work, but so far I have no clues at all.
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There have been random reports of regional and carrier specific problems with 2/3G. Some have been fixed with s/w updates, some people had to get rid of the phone. If your phone and your father's phone perform differently using the same SIM card, than his phone has a hardware problem. If they both suck, then you can either keep playing with the settings, hope a future s/w release fixes the problem, or get different phones.
The SGS2 appears to be router sensitive. It doesn't like D-Link routers. It appears to like Netgear routers a lot. While you shouldn't have to, changing your router can make a big difference in Wi-Fi performance.
Also, both of the conditions above wreak havoc on battery life. I can get 15 hours connected to my Netgear router while people with D-Link's are lucky to see 8.
I do have a second phone (my good old nokia n95 8GB), and also a second contract with the same carrier. I've already tried swapping the sim cards, and the result is always the same: N95 working flawlessly and SGS2 struggling even to get a reply from the server.
Obviously it's a problem related to the SGS2 (mine is unbranded and unrooted, just made the update to the latest firmware 2 months ago), and not to the carrier, although in this period I am in my parents' house, where signal is slightly lower than what I get in my house, at the opposite side of the city. So some cross relationship with signal strength may actually also be possible.
I do have Dlink routers both in my hose and in my parent's house, but I get very good wifi connection, I really can't complain about that. Also because my routers are different from the model that is known to cause problems. Anyway wifi connection is not in discussion here. It's cellular network connection that's problematic.
This evening, after disabling and reenabling all possible settings, and setting network connection to CDMA only, I was able to get fairly good connections, however we shouldn't be supposed to trickle anything in order to simply get cellular network data connection.
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