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[Q] Sprint Epic 4g on boost mobile?

Will it be possible to put the Epic on boost mobile like many have done the Touch pro 2 and some droid phones.
*Boost mobile is CDMA* non walkie talkie
*Boost Mobile is IDEN* with walkie talkie

I'd imagine that ESN swapping makes anything possible..

never done that before is that easy and how could i do that

It's illegal...

WHY is it illegal? whats the actuall reason why its Illegal?

It's an FCC violation to tamper with serial numbers. You're committing fraud.

Ok understood is there any other way that i could the epic 4g to work on boost

why? you that broke that you cant afford a monthly bill, but can afford the phone?

I CAN afford sprints everything data plan as well as i can afford Sprints simply unlimited plas as well as to purchase the phone out of contract i just dont like to be in contract and i prefer to pay $50 over $100 a month.

Ma$etas said:
I CAN afford sprints everything data plan as well as i can afford Sprints simply unlimited plas as well as to purchase the phone out of contract i just dont like to be in contract and i prefer to pay $50 over $100 a month.
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but for 50 dollars less, its a smaller network with no coverage.

Either way, no, it won't happen.

not true i have had great reception wherever i go the few times i have had no sprint service my phone goes into verizon service all that for $50 less on tp2

entropism said:
It's an FCC violation to tamper with serial numbers. You're committing fraud.
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Tampering with serial numbers is illegal, but not taking the phone to another carrier. Thanks to the FCC you can take any phone to any compatible network. If IPhone was CDMA sprint would have to let you put it on. They may fight you and they don't have to support the phone, but they have to let you use it. This has been talked about tons of time on XDA. Search it. Boost will probably have no problems. Just no support for the phone.

a454nova said:
Tampering with serial numbers is illegal, but not taking the phone to another carrier. Thanks to the FCC you can take any phone to any compatible network. If IPhone was CDMA sprint would have to let you put it on. They may fight you and they don't have to support the phone, but they have to let you use it. This has been talked about tons of time on XDA. Search it. Boost will probably have no problems. Just no support for the phone.
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how would i be able to make boost accept the epic on their system and in regards to support who cares if they dont support it thats why we have xda

Ma$etas said:
how would i be able to make boost accept the epic on their system and in regards to support who cares if they dont support it thats why we have xda
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Well one reason you care if they support it or not is because of issues you can potentially run into that can't be helped. I know someone who works for Criket who talks about people who bring phones from other carrier onto their plan, and how some people might not be able to send or receive, txts or calls or what not and the carrier can't support it at all. I guess if enough people put the epic on boost and it was a phone software thing that could be modified to make boost and the phone play nice then you'd have no issues, and of course it all depends, many phones will be just fine on other carriers, but there is the risk. Luckily since boost mobile is sprint, this hopefully is a nonissue and I'm just being silly.

First off, Sprint WILL NOT activate a non-sprint phone on their network. Simply will not happen, just like Verizon (who used to if you found an easy-going rep) will not. Since Boost IS Sprint, it just won't happen.
Secondly, the reason Sprint won't let you activate the phones on the Boost plan is because those devices are tied to specific plans that Sprint offers. There's a reason NOBODY has gotten an EVO, Instinct, Pre, Pixi, Hero, Moment, Bold, Tour, etc on Boost or Virgin without tampering with the ESNs, and it's the same reason why the Epic won't be on there either. The only Sprint phones you can activate on Boost are the non "everything plan required" phones, and you'll never see a non-Sprint, non-Boost phone on there.

I'm fairly certain you can use it on Cricket or MetroPCS, if that's useful. No promises that it'll work perfectly, but it'll likely work to some degree.
JUST2SUAVE said:
why? you that broke that you cant afford a monthly bill, but can afford the phone?
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Cost of the phone is trivial compared to the plan.

I'm not going to start anything. Just google Evo on boost and it will probably lead to the same with the epic. But... There is always a way.
Ive read all sms mms and 3G works on EVO. No 4G. So I'd bet on the Epic too.

a454nova said:
I'm not going to start anything. Just google Evo on boost and it will probably lead to the same with the epic. But... There is always a way.
Ive read all sms mms and 3G works on EVO. No 4G. So I'd bet on the Epic too.
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im going to do that maybe after or week or two of the phones releas. I know someone is gonna be able to do it. were there is a will theres a way! LoL. im perfectly fine with only 3g besides there isnt any 4g speeds where i live so it wont make any difference to me. i dont want to be stuck in a contract or have a plan with any limitations. oh and $100 a month for everything unlimited yeah right not gonna happen.

can it be done now? Epic on boost anyone care to share how too
i know its possible just want to know how

Last night with Hero

Well I had to do it because of connection issues. Sprint service sucks here and I have tried numerous things but just couldn't get past having terrible reception. So moving over to Verizon. Didn't have enough the other day when I ordered phones from amazon, so I got 3 Droids for a penny. Will probably upgrade 2 of them within the month to and Incredible and the X. Love the Hero love the forums and help here, just cant deal with no service 99% of my time.

Have you tried using the vz prl?

damiandarkwater said:
Have you tried using the vz prl?
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Yeah been there done that. I figure if im in the middle of a city and cant even get 1 bar most of the time, and constantly roaming, well it's just too much of a pain in the butt. I am looking forward to messing with some of those droid roms and kernels with major clocking.

smstutler said:
Well I had to do it because of connection issues. Sprint service sucks here and I have tried numerous things but just couldn't get past having terrible reception. So moving over to Verizon. Didn't have enough the other day when I ordered phones from amazon, so I got 3 Droids for a penny. Will probably upgrade 2 of them within the month to and Incredible and the X. Love the Hero love the forums and help here, just cant deal with no service 99% of my time.
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good choice in a phone man, i love the droid, i wish i could get it on sprint myself. i remember you posting about your bad signal so i don't blame you and good luck! im on my 5th hero and this is the first one i actually have a good signal on, the hero was known to have a defect in that aspect. as soon as i get paid from my new job ill be buying another evo.

markus_del_marko said:
good choice in a phone man, i love the droid, i wish i could get it on sprint myself. i remember you posting about your bad signal so i don't blame you and good luck! im on my 5th hero and this is the first one i actually have a good signal on, the hero was known to have a defect in that aspect. as soon as i get paid from my new job ill be buying another evo.
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hey one Q... cant we switch the droid to sprint... i think its possible.....

yes, you can. They are both cdma. You need to program the baseband with sprint's network info, just use a hero to pull the config from.
not entirely related; since we have neither sprint or Verizon here in Alaska; if you are a sprint customer you roam on digitel (worst network in the state). if you are a Verizon customer you roam with ACS (best network in the state).
Big-O-Devil said:
hey one Q... cant we switch the droid to sprint... i think its possible.....
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ipfreelytech said:
yes, you can. They are both cdma. You need to program the baseband with sprint's network info, just use a hero to pull the config from.
not entirely related; since we have neither sprint or Verizon here in Alaska; if you are a sprint customer you roam on digitel (worst network in the state). if you are a Verizon customer you roam with ACS (best network in the state).
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Sounds bad ... with the whole cell phone thing in Alaska ...
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ipfreelytech said:
yes, you can. They are both cdma. You need to program the baseband with sprint's network info, just use a hero to pull the config from.
not entirely related; since we have neither sprint or Verizon here in Alaska; if. you are a sprint customer you roam on digitel (worst network in the state). if you are a Verizon customer you roam with ACS (best network in the state).
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Maybe. You can point me in the right direction .. the Droid with sprint...
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Big-O-Devil said:
Maybe. You can point me in the right direction .. the Droid with sprint...
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it's not possible to do it or i would have already! the only way is by esn cloning and that's illegal as ****. sprint doesn't allow any phone on their network that they do not sell.

markus_del_marko said:
it's not possible to do it or i would have already! the only way is by esn cloning and that's illegal as ****. sprint doesn't allow any phone on their network that they do not sell.
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lol.. .... ....

markus_del_marko said:
the only way is by esn cloning and that's illegal as ****.
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**** is illegal? By that logic, Chipotle and the Breakfast Dollar Menu are also illegal.

actually no, its pretty great. My carrier is a small local company that offers me excellent service and coverage. (my house is -58dbm average and 1.2Mbit evdo)
I'm probably the only person on this forum that doesn't have free long distance service on their phone but that's my choice, my carrier offers national plans but for me everyone i call is here in Alaska so I prefer the cheaper plan.
Big-O-Devil said:
Sounds bad ... with the whole cell phone thing in Alaska ...
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HeroMeng said:
**** is illegal? By that logic, Chipotle and the Breakfast Dollar Menu are also illegal.
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lol...

Flash Evo to Verizon?

I apologize if this has been covered, I didn't find anything in a quick search. A buddy was asking about flashing his Evo to Verizon. I saw a few youtube videos showing results but haven't found a process.
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Sim unlock? You could call Verizon customer care or a store and ask if nobody on here knows, I assume it would work but have never heard of anyone doing it.

I dont think so.
You can have your evo run off of verizon's towers with a prl hack
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

There's no legal way to do it.
You would have to fake your esn number and such.

phatmanxxl said:
Sim unlock? You could call Verizon customer care or a store and ask if nobody on here knows, I assume it would work but have never heard of anyone doing it.
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Both vzw and sprint use CDMA... no simcards involved.
To OP: No, verizon requires the ESN to be already present on their database (same way as sprint) before activating the device.

The process is likely the same as it is to get the evo to work on boost, cricket, or other cdma providers.
I haven't done this personally, nor do I know anyone who has, but in theory, it seems like it should.

gpz1100 said:
The process is likely the same as it is to get the evo to work on boost, cricket, or other cdma providers.
I haven't done this personally, nor do I know anyone who has, but in theory, it seems like it should.
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Boost is owned by Sprint so it makes some sense that you could cross those phones.
Not sure about cricket but it's my guess that they don't lock down their esns.
The only way I've ever heard of using a Sprint/Verizon phone on either network is with esn spoofing and it's not legal, at all.

Until carriers allow other phones ont heir networks it's a no-go. Except as said above by changing ESN (illegal) or having one hell of an inside connection. The ESN would have to be added to their database of accepted devices. Like I said...a hell of an inside connection would be needed.

You said it bro! Spoof was the word I was looking for. Will require a donor phone though on the network you want to use it on.

KB112 said:
Until carriers allow other phones ont heir networks it's a no-go. Except as said above by changing ESN (illegal) or having one hell of an inside connection. The ESN would have to be added to their database of accepted devices. Like I said...a hell of an inside connection would be needed.
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It's not illegal to change your ESN as long as you are paying for the fees. The legality comes in when you try to clone ESN in order to avoid fees.
But even if OP were to clone the ESN, the frequency's don't really match and would have problems working

And if this was remotely feasible, I'd have a Verizon iPhone 4 on Sprint right now.

Hrshycro said:
And if this was remotely feasible, I'd have a Verizon iPhone 4 on Sprint right now.
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Your a Joke

iitreatedii said:
Your a Joke
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You're the one with an iPad 2 and always talking about it!

And we have once again proven that we can, AND WILL, turn any thread into an argument/personal attack within the first page of the thread. Good job, guys! :thmsup:

tejasrichard said:
And we have once again proven that we can, AND WILL, turn any thread into an argument/personal attack within the first page of the thread. Good job, guys! :thmsup:
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Its kinda the culture of XDA.
And to be completely honest its encouraged by the rules, or lack there of.

Need help flashing to work on Boost Mobile...

Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction... I know it can be done but google searches only seem to return ads for people selling already flashed phones. Little help would be greatly appreciated!

jrob9583 said:
Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction... I know it can be done but google searches only seem to return ads for people selling already flashed phones. Little help would be greatly appreciated!
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Google how to do it with the Epic 4G...thats how I go mine on Boost. There is a youtube video and a section here on XDA in the Epic android development section on how to get data working on the Epic on boost mobile. It works for the NS4G..trust me..

as mentioned above.. its the exact same method as epic. tho the code to put the phone in diag mode is different. *#*#DIAG#*#*
now i just wish we could edit wimax settings. :/

autoprime said:
as mentioned above.. its the exact same method as epic. tho the code to put the phone in diag mode is different. *#*#DIAG#*#*
now i just wish we could edit wimax settings. :/
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Yea the DIAG is different...I have heard some people say they get 4G..how is that possible?

alnova1 said:
Yea the DIAG is different...I have heard some people say they get 4G..how is that possible?
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If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.

LancerEVA06 said:
If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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Oh really? I still have my Sprint account but the NS4G isnt active right now on the account. Where I live we will not see 4G for who knows how long so thats why I went to boost on it.

LancerEVA06 said:
If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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there are no RSA keys in the nexus s. thats htc stuff. its the mac address that gets put into the system. and the ppl getting 4g via other means dont have it activated on sprint.. theyve edited the mac address to one that is valid. HOW they edited the mac is my question.
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i will agree partly with what lancerEVA has stated.. some phones have previously been activated and kinda got lost in the system for now. but i still stick with my original message... there are people that are editing the mac address manually.
on the epic this was possible using the wimax debug menus. these menus have been removed on the nexus.

Why would anyone want to use a Nexus S 4G phone on Boost? Boost Mobile consists entirely of iDENT which is totally incompatible with the Nexus S 4G. Boost phones that use CDMA just use the Sprint towers anyways so there would be no difference in coverage. Boost Mobile has never, ever had CDMA towers of their own. Also, iDENT is vastly inferior to CDMA in every way. iDENT is just TDMA with a few "enhancements" like AT&T's old network used to be.

techguy378 said:
Why would anyone want to use a Nexus S 4G phone on Boost? Boost Mobile consists entirely of iDENT which is totally incompatible with the Nexus S 4G. Boost phones that use CDMA just use the Sprint towers anyways so there would be no difference in coverage. Boost Mobile has never, ever had CDMA towers of their own. Also, iDENT is vastly inferior to CDMA in every way. iDENT is just TDMA with a few "enhancements" like AT&T's old network used to be.
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Yea your right...the coverage is the same....I get the same ho-hum 3G speeds with Boost as I do Sprint except I'm paying $45 for unlimited everything because of the shrinkage plan with Boost. What are you talking about Boost has never, ever had a tower of there own? Hey "techguy"...do you realize there owned by Sprint?...and by the way, when you say iDENT are you referring to iDEN? They have CDMA and iDEN networks and the Nexus will run off of the CDMA network like on Sprint because it is Sprint...get it?

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Yea your right...the coverage is the same....I get the same ho-hum 3G speeds with Boost as I do Sprint except I'm paying $45 for unlimited everything because of the shrinkage plan with Boost. What are you talking about Boost has never, ever had a tower of there own? Hey "techguy"...do you realize there owned by Sprint?...and by the way, when you say iDENT are you referring to iDEN? They have CDMA and iDEN networks and the Nexus will run off of the CDMA network like on Sprint because it is Sprint...get it?
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exactly.. people use sprint phones on boost for the best of both worlds. virgin is also a great candidate.. the $25 plan is pretty nice. tho i did just read that virgin will be getting rid of unlimited data.. well.. throttling after 2.5GB I believe. regardless.. 2 great options besides Sprint.. which is a great option compared to the other US carriers. win/win/win.

I will be getting my NS4G in the mail soon. I would love to do the flashing myself, but still looking for a guide. I have the guide on how to flash the EVO tho.
Is it safe to do software upgrades on the phone when I get it? And if I do any software upgrade after I get it flashed, will I lose my 3g or mms?

Unlimited user on AT&T? Throttled? Change your SOC code!

Today, AT&T has finally become somewhat less unreasonable with regard to their throttling policies!
So, if you're an unlimited data user suffering from stupid throttling woes at usage less than 2GB in a billing cycle, you can breathe a slight sigh of relief. But here's a little tip if you think 3GB still isn't reasonable enough for you:
Go to your local AT&T store and get the IMEI from one of their LTE Note display units by dialing *#06#
Then, call customer service and let the agent know that you bought an LTE Note from on the internet or some other third party, and request that your service be enabled for LTE usage. Specifically, that your SOC code be changed to LTEDPPB. They will ask you for your device's IMEI. Provide them the IMEI you got from the display unit.
Now, you can continue to enjoy "unlimited" data, and not have to worry about running into any speed limits until 5GB instead of 3!
Enjoy!
P.S. APN's that work on this new plan:
pta
Phone
wap.cingular
Google those APN's for the proper settings, and you're all set!
P.P.S. Don't use the "Broadband" APN, because that's used only for tethering, and that would raise red flags on your account. Not sure it would work anyway. You should still be able to tether just fine with any of the other APN's though.

I have unlimited plan, but i bought the international copy which H+
Should I do anything?
I use tethering apps a lot!

I'm on that data plan and you can still get throttled but I'm assuming you now have more options for APN switching

so basically you are spoofing the imei to circumvent their system and enable you to defraud them

Richy99 said:
so basically you are spoofing the imei to circumvent their system and enable you to defraud them
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Who is defrauding who? Exactly...thanks OP

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Who is defrauding who? Exactly...thanks OP
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Ha ha ha, good point! If they are going to throttle why can't they at least make it the same amount across the plans?
Does anyone know if this causes a change to the agreement? IE we lose any rights over law suit from the old plan? I don't like suing but I like knowing that I CAN and I like them knowing people HAVE sued

I'm using the "broadband" APN, but that's because I'm using a Unlimited iPad SIM. I don't think this will work for me. I guess I could use a IMEI from a LTE tablet such as the JetStream?

mahboob2t said:
I have unlimited plan, but i bought the international copy which H+
Should I do anything?
I use tethering apps a lot!
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First of all, you don't need to use any apps on your international Note in order to tether; tethering is baked right into your wireless settings by default.
Secondly, whether or not you want to do anything is up to you. If your account is currently on a non-LTE unlimited plan, then you will automatically get 3GB of un-throttled usage starting at your next billing cycle. If you think that's enough for you, then you don't have to do anything. If you want more, you can give yourself 5GB instead of 3 by doing what I described in the OP.
The LTE plans simply provision you access to the LTE APN (pta), which works on both HSPA+ and LTE. I mean, it has to, because if you had an LTE phone and were going through an area without LTE coverage, it would fall back to HSPA+ for service instead. Since the international Note doesn't have an LTE radio in it, it's just going to use HSPA+.
I suppose the added bonus is that when unlocked LTE phones do eventually come around, especially ones compatible with US frequency blocks, you won't have to make any changes to your account then.

Spartan2x said:
I'm using the "broadband" APN, but that's because I'm using a Unlimited iPad SIM. I don't think this will work for me. I guess I could use a IMEI from a LTE tablet such as the JetStream?
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This is a data-only plan correct? I'm not sure how AT&T's new policies affect those kinds of plans. I suppose, theoretically, the same process could work by using the IMEI of an LTE AT&T tablet. I don't know for sure though. You could always pioneer this for us and report back!

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so basically you are spoofing the imei to circumvent their system and enable you to defraud them
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This is a similar process as to what people had to do with their imported Galaxy S2's in order to get HSPA+ to work properly. Basically, we had to get the IMEI of one of AT&T's HSPA+ devices (like the Infuse 4G) and use that to provision our accounts properly. The manual input of the IMEI is only temporary anyway; the system automatically re-updates with your unlocked device's IMEI once you reboot, so there's really no spoofing going on here. It's more of an administrative thing than anything else. If I called in to customer support right now and politely asked to have my account provisioning modified or changed to a slightly different plan, the rep would ask me for my IMEI, I would give it to them, and they would see that it is unlocked, not classified in AT&T's database, and I would be told "Sorry, we don't officially support this device, there's nothing we can do..." And that's true, because their system shows available account features based on the classification of device, and for unlocked devices, they're unclassified.
As for defrauding AT&T for an additional 2GB of un-throttled data, I'm not defrauding them any more than they are defrauding me out of the unlimited, unrestricted, non-throttled service that I signed up for originally. Nor am I defrauding them any more by using an unlocked tablet device as a phone as well (the 7.7 is my daily driver), thus saving myself from either having to pay for an additional data line, or getting rid of my unlimited data and purchasing an additional tethering option.
I am not going to be a passive consumer. I am not afraid to stand up to big corporations and be aggressively thrifty with them, especially when they are aggressively greedy with us. If you don't fight back, they're just going to keep gouging you for everything you have until you eventually reach a point where enough is enough. I already reached that point long ago, and more and more people are getting there now. Corporations are always pushing the consumer's spending boundaries, until they cry "uncle." All I'm doing here is encouraging people to fight back, and cry uncle even sooner and more aggressively. I mean, that iPhone guy in California did it and won! Thanks to him (possibly), we're now no longer going to be throttled into oblivion at least until we reach more reasonable thresholds.
Moral of this story:
Corporations are greedy and amoral, and will bend whatever rules they can get away with to get more money out of you. They have no honour. They don't care about you. They care about the bottom line. They care about making money off of you. They don't care if they have to do morally or ethically questionable things to get more money out of you, as long as they can get away with it.
So stop defending them. Stand up for yourself and your fellow consumers. Band together and fight back!

I second everything j. E. W.! Very well said!
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thanks J E Wolf... for the good info...
can I us my friends LTE skyrocket imei number for this? will it mess.with his account in any way mi
thanks

jimmbomb said:
thanks J E Wolf... for the good info...
can I us my friends LTE skyrocket imei number for this? will it mess.with his account in any way mi
thanks
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Yeah you should be able to use that IMEI as well. Any LTE device should work really. It won't mess with anyone's account.

*bump again*

I think im going to use my buddies att note since its lte!
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eroracing said:
I think im going to use my buddies att note since its lte!
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That'll work