When i saw this, i may stand up and say something
Originally Posted by pekas
Why don't chinese people of XDA.cn share the build with us?
Chinese people don't share with outsiders and "non-communists" , plus this whole thing looks like some real bullcrap to me
I was able to register, but not to find something useful. I had a good laugh tho... (@ the google translation of their site) xD
In my country, we have the similar problem, we dont know who has the rom, as far as we know is the tow videos released on the internet show us that our HD2 can really run the WP7. the individuals there are still waiting for the news, be patient, if there's any news of wp7 ON HD2 from xda.cn, i will notice you guys.
ok?
thanks woion0415, this is much appreciated
Thanks alot woion0415. Now go and find that ROM for us!!
Ok good to know, but why they don't share with us? I think atm they don't share with anyone, as there is no download at xda.cn.. No one says Russian don't share with us, only because Cotulla didn't release MagLdr to public yet so I don't think it would be helpful to post such offensive threads..
I don't think there is a flashable rom. I heard that they just have one of the test hd2s Microsoft flashed to developed wp7. Someone else said that the hd2 was flashed with wp7 with a jtag flasher, so if either of those are the case, which I'm beginning to suspect, there is no rom and may not be for a while. I would think that if there was a rom, somebody would've gotten whole of it or atleast know something about it.
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woion0415 said:
when i saw this, i may stand up and say something
Originally Posted by pekas
Why don't chinese people of XDA.cn share the build with us?
Chinese people don't share with outsiders and "non-communists" , plus this whole thing looks like some real bullcrap to me
I was able to register, but not to find something useful. I had a good laugh tho... (@ the google translation of their site) xD
in my country, we have the similar problem, we dont know who has the rom, as far as we know is the tow videos released on the internet show us that our HD2 can really run the WP7. the individuals there are still waiting for the news, be patient, if there's any news of wp7 ON HD2 from xda.cn, i will notice your guys.
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Please do not let the fellow who wrote the derogatory post bother anyone. Even if he was joking, his way of thought is not indicative of the quality of people on XDA-Developers. Best thing to do is just ignore ignorant posts.
With that said, it will be fun watching to see who now comes up first with a working Windows Phone 7 ROM. Now that is what I would call healthy national competition!
thanks for the understanding
i must confess that i am not surf the net often, and i will not always focus in this title, but when i know any news from XDA.cn, i will come and tell the news. not for the few people who wrote derogatory post but the big family.
yah none of us users have a flashable rom, while we should be patient and wait.
and, thx to cottula&other developers who made it possible to run wp7 on hd2
by now, no flashable WP7 on HD2 rom released from xda.cn.....
i think there must be some reasons for them decide to do so.
the guys on xda.cn are also waiting for this.
I'm from chinese,as we konws,all of chinese are waiting for the rom.....
Thank for all of your informations, it's good to see people who can help us to anderstand.
In my opinion it's a global waiting
the video of wp7 run on hd2 come from a businessman ，as we can know from the sound in the video 。the day when the rom will release is hard to know
You say before it was meizu, but why, what interest for them to do that ?
fake
its fake !!! if you see the video look at the app is from 6.5wm , its just a shell no wp7 , we must wait cotulla
vasilisxxx said:
its fake !!! if you see the video look at the app is from 6.5wm , its just a shell no wp7 , we must wait cotulla
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I'm tired to read everywhere wait cotulla.
Yes he's doing an amazing work, but I want imagine that he is not the only one who can do everything that.
Hey i'm a communist trapped in a man's body.. can i have the ROM pls?. ;P
nipuna said:
Hey i'm a communist trapped in a man's body.. can i have the ROM pls?. ;P
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such a mature thing to say...
and yes, lame joke as it is.
no wp7 rom，its a joke。。。
a Bag full of Thankness and Pleasure to the author :
Thank you for posting a bad image of us at their site (xda.cn) Now even there is a thread talking about the foreigner who went to the chinese website and registered but he didn't find what he was looking for, thus he called them fake and selfish ... you are now the talk of the chinese .. So they said that others think chinese aren't communist !! and they hated us .. you can see wonderful posts about us in this thread : bbs.xda.cn/thread-96523-3-1.html enjoy your journy.
A Little note,
when you want to express some feelings, try to make them individual and not to contain others with your thoughts
And btw neither us nor them have a flashable ROM, they are just like us, waiting anxiously for the release !
Please stop posting comments that it is fake, unless you can prove it.. This is only confusing to people.. For me this is like when cotulla posted a video of WP7 booting, I looked every day after it until I realized that it wouldn't come in near future.. Now we don't even know if it (chinese ROM) is for real, so calm down it's done when it's done..
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Okay I'm a lurker on the developer thread and I thought it best to create a separate topic where everyone can talk about it (or complain that people can't shoehorn an OS on a device fast enough for their liking despite the fact that people are doing it for free basically) without all this "DEVELOPER DISCUSSION ONLY AUGUGHGH" "but we don't know where else to post about it"-ism
so this thread is for the non-developer discussion of said project:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578575
(won't let me past "outside links"(?) cos I'm a n00b for some reason)
so there's no excuse now for anyone who posts "when is it done?" in the other thread
Also, a few pointers since some people don't get it and I'd rather save a developers/non-developers civil war thing.
How long will it take? - You're looking at about a year at least. Remember, it's installing an OS on a system that isn't meant to even have it. It's going to take a hell of a lot of time to guesswork and muck around with this stuff.
(all the people moaning on engadget re: the US HD2 launch being all "HTC release an android update right now " and then being all "OH XDA WILL SORT IT OUT" (because apparently xda is their overnight miracle machine) annoy me something chronic for this reason.)
remember too that these people are more or less doing this for free.
Can't you just install the Nexus/Supersonic/etc. rom on there? - No.
from what I understand of the whole thing (I'm not a developer so take this with a pinch of salt) there's an awful lot of different code and such on these things which means it isn't as easy to just "install" it on another OS. It's like asking why you just can't fit a jaguar engine into a VW beetle. It could work, but there'd be a lot of work and rerouting etc. to be made and even then it would need a lot of tuning and sorting out.
Is it ready yet? - No. You will know when it's ready.
What's happening at the moment? - From what I've read of the whole thing they're trying to iron out kinks with the linux Haret thing thats going to run Android. After they've got it to boot, they're going to have to try and get android working with the HD2. This is why it's taking so long.
so yeah.
hey??
yeah but..
this is the xda DEVELOPERS forum
and this is the HD2 DEVELOPEMENT section
so i guess the linux android development thread does what its supposed to !!
i know its frustrating and you like me want android on the hd2 but to be honest i i find half the fun is the bloody long wait and the small progressions that are made, thats how we learn.
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edit >> ok looks like this thread was useful after all - my wrong !! ..
**shrug**
A mod can move it elsewhere if needs be, I was just getting sick of all the feuding going on between people who wanted to talk about it and the developers yelling at the people who aren't posting about developing and thought it best to make a separate thread so non-developer people can talk about the project and developer people can drop in and give advice
yeah
actually you got a point.
theres a fair ammount of flame grill on the other thread that does get annoying
i subscribe to the other thread so i get an instant email for every post and i get my email on my hd2 just as you would a text message so it can be a pain.
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Ha finally found again this topic.
I am wishing you all my best to port Android to the HD2 because with all the **** around WinMo 7 comptability, you look the only one able to save the HD2 in the future!
I really hope everyday that Android will be working on our HD2...
Btw, the HTC Desire is going to be out soon, and it has the same specification than the HD2... Does it increase the chance got Android on our HD2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=594
Good luck and all my best !
Zepiii
i hope we get android on our HD2's with spb mobileshell 5.0
Zepiii said:
Ha finally found again this topic.
I am wishing you all my best to port Android to the HD2 because with all the **** around WinMo 7 comptability, you look the only one able to save the HD2 in the future!
I really hope everyday that Android will be working on our HD2...
Btw, the HTC Desire is going to be out soon, and it has the same specification than the HD2... Does it increase the chance got Android on our HD2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=594
Good luck and all my best !
Zepiii
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All about Gizmondo.com or Gizmondo.fr its bull**** !!
This web site works for Apple its sure !!
Edit : mistake but im sure about Gizmondo
Ok
Too bad we're stuck with low level developers who can't get it done. We need real developers who actually know what they are doing.
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Too bad we're stuck with low level developers who can't get it done. We need real developers who actually know what they are doing.
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Like Android would be wounderfull to have WebOS runing on HD2...a beautifull simbiose with outlook and Itunes integrations.....and push notifications...and light apps for everythink.
I dreaming with that.
simranjits said:
Too bad we're stuck with low level developers who can't get it done. We need real developers who actually know what they are doing.
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Careful now mate. Watch what you say!
simranjits said:
Too bad we're stuck with low level developers who can't get it done. We need real developers who actually know what they are doing.
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Why don't *YOU* take the lead then if you're so capable of passing judgement on other people; as to do that you must have some amazing development skills in getting an operating system running on unknown poorly documented hardware.
Obvioiusly everyone will bow down to your uberleet level of skill when *YOU* present all of the fine work *YOU* have done!
otherwise...
stop being so bloody rude!
Dcordes knows a fair bit more than most people about linux hacking for ppc devices, I suggest you give him the respect he and others deserve!
if this post upsets you think about what you wrote...
I'm hopeing that it will not sound total idiot, but:
why it's not possible to use NexusOne rom dump, and using it for HD2. Hardware is nearly same except buttons and screen size.
thanks
zabique said:
I'm hopeing that it will not sound total idiot, but:
why it's not possible to use NexusOne rom dump, and using it for HD2. Hardware is nearly same except buttons and screen size.
thanks
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Ooooh dear...i´m still wondering why people are that damn lazy these days, not reading just one line in threads that are having 709 posts at this moment...don´t you people think that there should be a 100 percent-likelihood (in a developers-forum!) that another big brain spits out such ideas? exactly 1.000 other so called "newbies" have mentioned this point in the past few weeks...sometimes in every third post, again and again, without having read what other people have posted one line above. This is not about beeing a newbie or not, this is just about a little respect to the developers, serving nice presents to all of us without getting paid for it. what you guys can do for them? well, the first step should be not to spam around questions that already have been answered 1000 times before...instead go and read through the replies and at the end, when you are sure that there is no answer yet (after using the search function too, of course)...THAN ask your question or type in your comments and I think everbody will thank you for your participation in this community.
Sorry zabique, of course this is not against you ...but after reading exactly the same line for the 20st time/last two weeks there was no inhibition of my fingers typing these lines possible
i have a lot of respect for those developers, i die a bit inside every time a noob asks how it is going and **** like that.. anyway its nice they are working on it and i hope they succeed! dual boot windows / android would be really cool to have! i will surely donate if its working.. but to who should i donate? maybe its an idea to make a sort of bounty (lets say i will give $20 for getting android on hd2) and someone else also $20. thats 40 in total. if that 40 is shared and given to the developers that have worked on that project it would be a stimulation for them i guess.. only i dont know what developers are working intensively..
anyway my reward will be $20
more of you are going to join?
maybe its an idea to add the totall's of the $$ and the name who gives what in the first post?
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Why don't *YOU* take the lead then if you're so capable of passing judgement on other people; as to do that you must have some amazing development skills in getting an operating system running on unknown poorly documented hardware.
Obvioiusly everyone will bow down to your uberleet level of skill when *YOU* present all of the fine work *YOU* have done!
otherwise...
stop being so bloody rude!
Dcordes knows a fair bit more than most people about linux hacking for ppc devices, I suggest you give him the respect he and others deserve!
if this post upsets you think about what you wrote...
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If i wanted to do it myself , would i be bothering myself with these amateurs. At least i know i can't do it, but these guys don't know when to stop. Like i said we need real developers. All they are doing is guesswork and their debuging techniques are crude.
simranjits said:
If i wanted to do it myself , would i be bothering myself with these amateurs. At least i know i can't do it, but these guys don't know when to stop. Like i said we need real developers. All they are doing is guesswork and their debuging techniques are crude.
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Of course with the guy who have your thinking psychologically, we have the desire to continue working.
Maybe now you know guys who are better and who are willing to take the trouble to come and work for free for fun, to the delight of members!
If this is not the case, then dont write!
I think you're not an adult, easy to dictate but to do the works is another thing.
simranjits said:
If i wanted to do it myself , would i be bothering myself with these amateurs. At least i know i can't do it, but these guys don't know when to stop. Like i said we need real developers. All they are doing is guesswork and their debuging techniques are crude.
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all you know is nothing...
so please shut up and let people who do know what they are talking about get on with it..
fards said:
all you know is nothing...
so please shut up and let people who do know what they are talking about get on with it..
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actually he is quite right. if you have any idea what developers are talking about then you can see that all they do is guess in trial and error style. but aparently you dont have any idea
From the viewpoint of a software architect, it's indeed hard to watch the other thread without crinching every once in a while. On the other hand, the plan of attack there seems to be part of a culture that has done stuff like this quite succesfully with other challenges.
So i won't be surprised if we eventually get a nice port of android running on the HD2.
Mind you, i do believe that an undertaking like this would need the infrastructure, tools and mindset like the main android project has in place at the moment. But that would require a "DEVs and Testers only" door policy.
Simply put, the other thread here lets the lesser gods put their 2 cents in too. I'm cool with that.
BTW, i do not approve of any condescending remarks about the the other thread, nor do i wish to make my own through this mail.
Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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I think no one going to do that.
Also a NAND version IS coming.
Only have patience
patience is an golden word only problem is i like silver comes before gold so hurry it already haha
nah, lave htc alone lol
lets all spam microsoft with the title "Who needs Windows Phone 7?" lol
leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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but seriously, isnt there ANY way we can convince htc ?
topderob said:
Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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There is no way, EVER, that would work. If you manage to get ANY help on android development for hd2 by htc, I will personaly come down to your place and give you all the money I have. Thats how confident I am.
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leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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Lmao.....
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I wouldn't "spam" them. That would just irritate them and give us a bad look.
I think it's unlikely they would create and official Android for HD2, because afterall, that's not going to make them a huge amount of money. If they did do it, it would be more of a kind gesture to the community.
The best we can do is to write an open letter, explain why we believe an official Android release for the HD2 would be largely beneficial for both HTC and HD2 owners (present and future). Ensure they're aware of the current interest, and perhaps do a poll of who would buy the HD2 if Android was an official option.
It will make them more money, cos there are many people out there that are skeptical about buying an HD2 cos of its retarded OS(u know which one i mean)...tell me, doesnt an Hd2 running two official OS's sound super-tempting to you?
If someone would help us, will be Google department, giving us a free HD2 Android tree, but unofficial means, giving that to Cottula Team.....we are their embassadores....MS don't want we will be that for WM7.....and HTC don't care, just want sell hardware.....and this is not good for their business.
*** you MS and your 7s.
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If someone would help us, will be Google department, giving us a free HD2 Android tree, but unofficial means, giving that to Cottula Team.....we are their embassadores....MS don't want we will be that for WM7.....and HTC don't care, just want sell hardware.....and this is not good for their business.
*** you MS and your 7s.
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wouldt work.. for it to work, google will need to ask their coders to come up with kernels to boot up android in hd2, not give us an os build..
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I wouldn't "spam" them. That would just irritate them and give us a bad look.
I think it's unlikely they would create and official Android for HD2, because afterall, that's not going to make them a huge amount of money. If they did do it, it would be more of a kind gesture to the community.
The best we can do is to write an open letter, explain why we believe an official Android release for the HD2 would be largely beneficial for both HTC and HD2 owners (present and future). Ensure they're aware of the current interest, and perhaps do a poll of who would buy the HD2 if Android was an official option.
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like u say, i wouldt recommend spamming htc.. but maybe we can have an online petition and gather virtual signatures and submit it to HTC?
would that be a better idea?
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wouldt work.. for it to work, google will need to ask their coders to come up with kernels to boot up android in hd2, not give us an os build..
like u say, i wouldt recommend spamming htc.. but maybe we can have an online petition and gather virtual signatures and submit it to HTC?
would that be a better idea?
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I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
pack21 said:
I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
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while your all at it, 'sign' here too if you havnt already.
http://layar.uservoice.com/forums/20979-general/suggestions/313434-windows-mobile-client?ref=title
make sure google dont forget about us
I suppose one could petition for it, to show them the interest. But it's still quite unlikely. They would have to (I think) strike some deal with Microsoft to release the WinMo exclusivity with the HD2. I think they would also have a tough time selling Android-based units, purely because of the inconsistency of having a Windows button on the keypad.
I suppose a petition could convince them to get involved in the htc-linux project, ie. help the dev's out with any problems, questions, etc.
The new HTC Desire HD is almost identical (at least spec wise) to the HD2 (exept the Cam)! Why would HTC ever do an HD2 Android ROM when they are going to make an "all new" device with Android? HTC woun't care for us! We already bought the device! They need new customers to buy new devices and not having "old" ones ugraded all the time!
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I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
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lets do it guys im in, lets make some noise. we buy the phone we should decide what so we want
dream on my friend.... cuz you don't have a clue how job is done in large corporations! they have licesnes, copyrights, huuuge amounts of paper for one phone, so they can't just say: "hey we can grab source, do android and make xda community happy! yay!"
they are about to release desireHD so if you want android buy that one!
only thing you will do by spamming to HTC is to attract a HUUUGE hord of lawyers that will shut down xda, htc-linux and whole thing our devs were working for.
They just look away now because "they can't be responsible for things you do with your phone" as lawsuits are often big amount of money and time spent.
if this kind of behavior continues it WILL get nasty! take conflipper as example, but you probably don't even know who that is! GROW UP CHILDREN, YOU AIN't PLAYIN' WITH LEGO ANYMORE
!! so shut down this thread and rather do a DONATION to devs, mix some air, or help older people on the street, just leave HTC and everyone else out !!!
i think that if HTC showed a little gratitute to their loyal customers it would just make them look better to the community (at least this community). without XDA htc would sell much less.. I bought HTC only because XDA exists.. and I was sure to get more value from my device this way than with any other brand.
HTC is well aware of this.. they know their business believe me...
maybe they're already helping developers undercover..hehehe.. who knows...
in this forum we all know that our next device will be android-powered anyway...
I love winmo.. i always had... but android is more advanced.. works good.. and has all the google goodies we all love...
HTC better take notice
Sorry guys, we still dont know who has the rom, but i guess, she may be a businessman. the reason why she dont want to release the rom is that she just want to raise the prices of HD2. i hate this practice. I have inquired the mobile char, its belong to the Shenzhen City.
You may have already seen the video, but somebody may need it:
Link:http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwODU2NzQ0.html
no idea why anyone would want to watch another video of someone else's phone.
The hype over wp7 on hd2 has got totally out of hand. It's not even particularly good on a wp7 phone.
Bored of wobbly videos. They should release it so people here can try it or shut up!
hi, guy, Don’t be so grumpy about it. we just want to confirm that the HD2 can really run WP7, sooner or later they will release the rom, whatever it takes, this is a good news, right?
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hi, guy, Don’t be so grumpy about it. we just want to confirm that the HD2 can really run WP7, sooner or later they will release the rom, whatever it takes, this is a good news, right?
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+ 1.. let us shut up and wait, Thanks for the effort Sir!
Far out man all these noobs posting last weeks news...
Learn to search and read before posting!!!
Am i just work too hard to make you feel unfomfortable? then shut up man, i am not doing this for you, little extremist!
Don't mean to sound grumpy or put anyone's efforts down.
But its just not news anymore. I think most rational minded people have probably accepted wp7 on hd2 exists. That much we know from Devs inside XDA already.
Yeah I'll try it on hd2 when released.. but I already know I'll use 6.5.3 as my daily driver for a good while to come. WP7 is everything we here should hate given its so locked down - it really isn't worth this fuss!
Ok nice but wheres the link????
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Don't mean to sound grumpy or put anyone's efforts down.
But its just not news anymore. I think most rational minded people have probably accepted wp7 on hd2 exists. That much we know from Devs inside XDA already.
Yeah I'll try it on hd2 when released.. but I already know I'll use 6.5.3 as my daily driver for a good while to come. WP7 is everything we here should hate given its so locked down - it really isn't worth this fuss!
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I think one of the reasons people are hungry for news of running Windows Phone 7 on the HTC HD2 is that it is part of the inherent spirit of the original purpose of organizing XDA-Developers in the first place. XDA of course was a brand name used by 02 on the first phones they sold that were manufactured by a relatively young Taiwanese company that had changed its name of Hi Tech Computers to HTC. The original XDA-DEvelopers guys were mostly engineers and were determined to unlock more features of these PDAs, as well as making these PDAs do more than what they were first intended to do. The XDA-Developers guys knew that the more people involved, the more knowledge could be gained and shared.
I still have an old O2 XDA II that is happily running Windows Mobile 6.5.3. It originally came with Windows Mobile 2003, Chinese version. XDA-Developers has allowed this old PDA to have a really extended life.
XDA-Developers has really changed over the years as membership grew. Much civility of the older members is being drowned out by new members, to the point where a noob of a few months calls others noobs and cannot offer any other information than to search.
I enjoy seeing any news on the development of Windows Phone 7 on the HD2; it is similar to when our PDAs running on 2003 could migrate to 2005, and then 6.x
I also appreciate the fact that our friends in China are participating more now. Some of the younger guys there now are really highly trained specialists in areas that pertain to smart phones. And, I appreciate the fact that some of these guys in China are making an effort to keep us updated on any progress that is made there.
I think we should all also remember that for some Chinese it is a daunting challenge to navigate a complex site like XDA-Developers, and that it is not always easy for them to communicate what they really want to when they have to translate from Chinese to English. It is much more difficult to do this than, say, translate a European language into English.
So, hopefully, allowances should be made, and we should all welcome the participation of our Chinese friends. Now, I wish HTC would go back to making truly global phones, rather than regional phones, LOL
Thank you for your understanding.
Thank you for the info, but i can't find the link to the video ^^
Plenty of intelligent comments there. Hey I wouldn't be reading the thread if I wasn't interested in the news.
On the subject of spirit of XDA though - until there's openess and sharing then they're not complying to what this place stands for. Right now its just building publicity and we're all wondering for what gain for them.
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Plenty of intelligent comments there. Hey I wouldn't be reading the thread if I wasn't interested in the news.
On the subject of spirit of XDA though - until there's openess and sharing then they're not complying to what this place stands for. Right now its just building publicity and we're all wondering for what gain for them.
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My own personal opinion is that there has been no sharing of the ROM demoed in the videos is that what we saw was actually an earlier test of Windows Phone 7 on the HD2. I am sure you know that the HD2 was used as a testbed for the earlier development of Windows Phone 7. Others have commented on certain elements in the video that appear to be similar to earlier testing ROMs.
So, I guess, in the end, those in China who are in possession of the HD2 running WP7 are not much closer to developing a flashable ROM than others. In short, I think there is no ROM yet to be shared.
I think we also need to distinguish those who filmed the video (who may well be doing it for financial gain) from our Chinese friends who have signed up as members of XDA-Developers. Clearly, there is a major difference between these two groups of people.
Of course, all the above is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
You got a good point.
True, patient is a virtue. Please get yourself a seat and wait! Hope that gooooood news pop out soon!
This is an english only forum, please start writing in english before a mod comes here and erases your posts.
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I think we should refrain from making posts in languages other than English as the rules of the forum are that it is an English forum. XDA-Developers moderators tend to get upset when they see other languages!
Other than that, no way will I get involved in flag disputes, but I do love those old Japanese style bath houses in Beitou, just north of Taipei. Really a relaxing experience after debating on XDA-Developers hours on end.
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Hi tell you. My hate japan
Ok, i just talking with my fellow countryman in personal question. Still, it was my fault.
be patient and wait
yah im still happy with my hd2 running android 2.2
btw哥们你跑来这儿发群嘲贴太牛逼了哇
woion0415 said:
Ok, i just talking with my fellow countryman in personal question. Still, it was my fault.
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Preface: The continuity of posts leading to the following mini-essay were rightly deleted by the mods, as those posts contained languages other than English. However, I feel the main points of this mini-essay remain valid. I am not trying to create conflict, but remind others what XDA-Developer is all about: inclusiveness instead of exclusiveness, and technology, not nationality.
Although, due to historical and geographical reasons, I am much more familiar with Traditional Chinese characters, rather than Simplified Chinese characters, I was able to follow the gist of the conversation. Even though the conversation was mostly in jest, it still was somewhat unsettling to me.
Just as I will stand up for you guys in China, so I will do for the Japanese. If you check all the different forums on XDA-Developers you will find many Japanese who have made exceptional contributions to the site and its members. XDA-Developers is really a global tech site, which should remain inclusive rather than exclusive. So, when we log in, I think we should drop our nationalistic preconceptions at the door and get down to the work of concentrating on our devices supported by XDA-Developers. What do you think about that?
In the past I have chastised those who use cheap nationalist jokes against others from another country, and I will do that again. You know that to be a truth, as you have read some of those posts.
I know some of you guys from China have had a bit of a tough time breaking into the social community of XDA-Developers, so I hope you guys don't dish out to others what you suffered when you first joined this site.
Well, that is said and done, and soon to be forgotten.
And, I can climb down from my soapbox again. I think I need a vacation from climbing up and down from that soapbox. It is really tiring me out!
PS. A couple things to always remember, always post in English, don't assume "others" aren't comprehending what you type in your native language, and park nationalist prejudices at the door so that you can truly enjoy what XDA-Developers has to offer without causing conflicts.
I had known about the poor translator.
Now I say to you all directly.
Many Chinese from xda.cn and members in here had seen the HD2 WP7 Video. From this video, we can find out 2 call number. One is 1860XXXXXXX and another is 1362XXXXXXX. My friend had called the number 1362XXXXXXX, and that person (maybe video recorder) said the HD2 WP7 ROM has many problems and if you install it and then you cannot return to WM6.5. So he dose not publish this ROM. I really don't konw whether this reason is true or false. I still believe that person is kindness. I am very glad for having communicated with him. We can call him again in a suitable time. I believe he can do more things about HD2.
Thank you.
Hi,
I don't understand.
What exactly do you mean?
Sorry...
Looks like some poor translator
pekas said:
Hi,
I don't understand.
What exactly do you mean?
Sorry...
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sthEn said:
Looks like some poor translator
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Is he an English called the chinese then wrote down what he could understand ? or is he a chinese guy called the ROM's developer and asked ?'s then translated it to english for xda members for some reason ?
What I could barely understand is that we shouldn't be asking about the rom and it still have some problems (i.e can't reverse to WM 6.5 after flashing WP7) as well as we should await patiently
I had known about the poor translator.
Now I say to you all directly.
Many Chinese from xda.cn and members in here had seen the HD2 WP7 Video. From this video, we can find out 2 call number. One is 1860XXXXXXX and another is 1362XXXXXXX. My friend had called the number 1362XXXXXXX, and that person (maybe video recorder) said the HD2 WP7 ROM has many problems and if you install it and then you cannot return to WM6.5. So he dose not publish this ROM. I really don't konw whether this reason is true or false. I still believe that person is kindness. I am very glad for having communicated with him. We can call him again in a suitable time. I believe he can do more things about HD2.
Thank you.
luoyong said:
I would like to include many Chinese, global HD2 lover has seen the video WP7 HD2, we may safely from video found in two Chinese operator's phone number, my friend by dialing the number, 136 video of stakeholders dialed shooting and asked about WP7 situation. Each other and say, at present the ROM problem is still very much, and installation of the ROM cannot return, maybe this is a businessman use means, but I still does not have sufficient reason to doubt that I will still believe because ROM itself and cannot release that we will continue and video related the makers of the contact, get more frontal information. I hope the ROM development as to reduce commercial interests and conflicts. Hope everybody can await patiently. Thank you!
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I tried to run that through Google Translate by translating it from Chinese to English and the translation came out exactly the same??
Maybe the original post was not in Chinese?
At very begining, I believed the translator can do it very well.
But I was wrong. So please accept my apologize.
oh understand！ thanks for your provide information
Basically he and other Chinese individuals who are interested in WP7 on the HD2 have called a number asking for more information and have been told that the rom has issues, not least of which is that you are unable to restore a wm6.5 rom to the phone if you decide you dont want WP7 on it anymore. Still very much beta.
Maybe you can call him again and tell him to release his rom so the genius here work it out
We dont want wp 6.5
O que o palerma do chinês queria dizer, é que o chines que instalou o windows phone 7, está fodido, ficou com um telemovel a servir de pisa papeis.....e quem tentar instalar o windows phone 7 além de não ter utelidade porcausa dos erros, não podes reverter para o windows mobile 6.5
ficou entendido?
Translation:
What the chinese man want to say is : if you try to install the wp7 build you will be a stone paper on your desk =)
;9223034 said:
I had known about the poor translator.
Now I say to you all directly.
Many Chinese from xda.cn and members in here had seen the HD2 WP7 Video. From this video, we can find out 2 call number. One is 1860XXXXXXX and another is 1362XXXXXXX. My friend had called the number 1362XXXXXXX, and that person (maybe video recorder) said the HD2 WP7 ROM has many problems and if you install it and then you cannot return to WM6.5. So he dose not publish this ROM. I really don't konw whether this reason is true or false. I still believe that person is kindness. I am very glad for having communicated with him. We can call him again in a suitable time. I believe he can do more things about HD2.
Thank you.
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First, I think we should thank Luoyong for sharing this information with us. I am quite interested in just how the person in the video got the ROM on the HD2. Was it similar to the usual method of updating a stock ROM, or flashing a cooked ROM? One also wonders if something more esoteric like JTAG had to be used. Or, did the person somehow get his hands on one of the HD2s that was used as a testbed for WP7 in its earlier stages of development?
Hopefully, with more information, and more understanding, those naysayers who keep saying all of this is fake will be silenced.
Once again, thanks to Luoyong for sharing this information with us. I look forward to reading more information about this subject from Luoyong, who obviously is a reliable source.
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Maybe you can call him again and tell him to release his rom so the genius here work it out
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Or, perhaps, considering the nuances of being more diplomatic, one could suggest collaboration.
mhd88 said:
We dont want wp 6.5
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I think everyone else in this thread is talking about WP7, and not talking about what should be correctly identified as Windows Mobile 6.5
mhd88 said:
We dont want wp 6.5
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There is no WP 6.5 but if you are not able to get back to Windows Mobile 6.5, i mean to install a stock ROM, you can also throw your phone into the dustbin at today dev status with WP7.
The developer from the video could get in contact with the guys from xda. Then a working WP7 ROM on the HD2 is possible, very soon
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First, I think we should thank Luoyong for sharing this information with us. I am quite interested in just how the person in the video got the ROM on the HD2. Was it similar to the usual method of updating a stock ROM, or flashing a cooked ROM? One also wonders if something more esoteric like JTAG had to be used. Or, did the person somehow get his hands on one of the HD2s that was used as a testbed for WP7 in its earlier stages of development?
Hopefully, with more information, and more understanding, those naysayers who keep saying all of this is fake will be silenced.
Once again, thanks to Luoyong for sharing this information with us. I look forward to reading more information about this subject from Luoyong, who obviously is a reliable source.
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First thank Rlydiard for your understanding.
On xda.cn we can find a WP7 theme software on WM6.5 mixed ROM. I let someone flash this rom. The desktop is similar with WP7. But call interface and more others are WM6.5's. At the same time I was seeing this video. In the video, many functions and opreation was not like WM6.5. I really don't know whether the operation is WP7 or not. Maybe it's a flash sofware? But she really call abother phone to show WP7 calling.
Before this video anouncement, HD2 price become increase. From 2 months ago the pirce has increase from 2600RMB to 3100RMB. On xda.cn someone has guessed the relation between the video and price.
One hand, if this video is not true, of course ,we don't know how to realize this effect by a false method agaist ROM flash. Surely it's likely to explain that the business man didn't want to share a false method and this result will impact HD2 phone sale.
On the other hand, if the HD2 WP7 ROM is true, I believe he had not reasons to protect this rom from us. Because businessman and we are not know each other. So QQ team and I will do our best to try to contact with him to make clear this information and release his concern. We hope he or she can publish this ROM for us and we can support he or she to complete HD2 WP7 ROM.
By the end, I am from China and I had using PPC->WM for 5 years. I am willing to help us to resolve this misunderstanding. Thanks all a lots and Chinese are friendly.
I call the video recorder just now.
I am very sorry to tell us that HD2 WP7 ROM is not true.
In this calling I am very pleased to ask about whether the ROM is true.
And he quickly said two words “假的” (in English it is "false"). Suddently he droped the call.
I really don't know how to simulate so truely.
I am so disappoint about it.
So xda-developers and xda.cn members need work hard by another method. Maybe Russian can help us.
So I am very sorry again in the name of Chinese.
luoyong said:
First thank Rlydiard for your understanding.
On xda.cn we can find a WP7 theme software on WM6.5 mixed ROM. I let someone flash this rom. The desktop is similar with WP7. But call interface and more others are WM6.5's. At the same time I was seeing this video. In the video, many functions and opreation was not like WM6.5. I really don't know whether the operation is WP7 or not. Maybe it's a flash sofware? But she really call abother phone to show WP7 calling.
Before this video anouncement, HD2 price become increase. From 2 months ago the pirce has increase from 2600RMB to 3100RMB. On xda.cn someone has guessed the relation between the video and price.
One hand, if this video is not true, of course ,we don't know how to realize this effect by a false method agaist ROM flash. Surely it's likely to explain that the business man didn't want to share a false method and this result will impact HD2 phone sale.
On the other hand, if the HD2 WP7 ROM is true, I believe he had not reasons to protect this rom from us. Because businessman and we are not know each other. So QQ team and I will do our best to try to contact with him to make clear this information and release his concern. We hope he or she can publish this ROM for us and we can support he or she to complete HD2 WP7 ROM.
By the end, I am from China and I had using PPC->WM for 5 years. I am willing to help us to resolve this misunderstanding. Thanks all a lots and Chinese are friendly.
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Hi Louyong,
You are welcome, Louyong
Perhaps it is a bit easier for me to understand the situation, as I have been in contact with a few of you guys in China, and the fact that I am one of those guys who has spent most of my life in Asia. I did hear about the prices of the HD2 rising there, which seems odd to say the least, especially with the release of WP7 coming soon there. Already in Taiwan, both CHT and Taiwan Mobile are selling English UI versions of two HTC WP7 phones, so I do not think the price of HD2s will rise here. From Taiwan Mobile, one can buy an HD2, without a contract for about NT$13,000. I expect that price will drop again soon.
I really do appreciate your efforts in getting to the bottom of the whole situation. Unfortunately, there were a few impetuous individuals on XDA-Developers who were, shall we say, disrespectful to an extreme. This threatened to cause increasing misunderstandings between East and West, and XDA-Developers and XDA.CN.
Fortunately, there are guys like you who are really cool, so I think the situation will not escalate any further. Again, I, for one, really appreciate your efforts in getting the definitive facts of this situation.
Just think what could happen if the top developers of XDA-Developers and XDA.CN got together to collaborate!
Again, thanks for your efforts in this situation. I know there are many decent, good people on XDA-Developers who will also appreciate your efforts.
luoyong said:
I call the video recorder just now.
I am very sorry to tell us that HD2 WP7 ROM is not true.
In this calling I am very pleased to ask about whether the ROM is true.
And he quickly said two words “假的” (in English it is "false"). Suddently he droped the call.
I really don't know how to simulate so truely.
I am so disappoint about it.
So xda-developers and xda.cn members need work hard by another method. Maybe Russian can help us.
So I am very sorry again in the name of Chinese.
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That was fast work there, Louyong. It could be that he has an HD2 that was used as a testbed for WP7, as some of the UI did look like earlier UI prototypes. As far as I know, there are a few HD2s floating around that were used for WP7 testbeds.
Maybe we will never know now the real truth about that video, but you are right, it looks like it will be others who finally port WP7 to the HD2.
Well, it does not really matter that the information was not happy, what is important is that you gave us the correct current situation, and thanks for that.
find this rom in a Chinese site , they clam its 2.3.6
its
I9100ZCKJ1
rom feel very smooth , camera very good
link to pic
http://guide.hiapk.com/news/11212011/232157905_1.shtml
link to rom
link : http://bbs.hiapk.com/thread-2759153-1-1.html
you need to use odin
hettab said:
find this rom in a Chinese site , they clam its 2.3.6 , i am flashing it right now , can others chek it
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Link? ROM? Any extra info at all helps here friend
hettab said:
find this rom in a Chinese site , they clam its 2.3.6 , i am flashing it right now , can others chek it
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Say goodbye to your phone because I bet you've got the wrong model fas it's probably the i9000G firmware as per the other thread(s) about it.
Why would you ask others to check it when;
a) You didn't give them a link
and
b) You're already flashing it?
There's 2.3.6 update for SII but AFAIK it's for at&t one..
but someone mentioned every SII got that..
update, found one.
http://vvcap.net/db/ztOJI1g_KaMbkhehJOCb.htp
Bwahahahaha! I'll wait for the "Omg! Halp meeeeeee! I brickeddddd mine fon!!!!" Thread.
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Bwahahahaha! I'll wait for the "Omg! Halp meeeeeee! I brickeddddd mine fon!!!!" Thread.
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There already is one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19792683
Intratech said:
Bwahahahaha! I'll wait for the "Omg! Halp meeeeeee! I brickeddddd mine fon!!!!" Thread.
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Thanks for the lolz.
I agree. Three.... two.... one.....
yes did it every thing look grate , every think works fine , except they replace the market by some Chinese warez
and no its for 9100 friend
What a fail. XXKI3 is Android 2.3.5 and has been out for ages.
yep but they some how incorporet the 2.3.6 up date , its realy fast very fast
cheek it by your self
there rom s are good i flashed a couple of them for the htc desire
the links are in the 1 st post , take a look
No thanks, I can do my own ROMs and tweaks thank you. Doubt I'll ever install anything found in a Chinese forum either as I prefer to be spyware, malware, rootkit and bot free. If it's not from a dev on here that I know it ain't going on my device.
take a look a that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13622963#post13622963
its one of there rom for htc desire here on xda
i just wanted for the dev out here to check it out may be use some tweaks from it
its a free platform isn't it
I9100ZCKJ1 sorry
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No thanks, I can do my own ROMs and tweaks thank you. Doubt I'll ever install anything found in a Chinese forum either as I prefer to be spyware, malware, rootkit and bot free. If it's not from a dev on here that I know it ain't going on my device.
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Intratech,
Greetings.
I have been following your great topics and tips for a while. So I thank you.
But I am little disturbed by this comment. No, I am not pulling the race card because I think you are not a racist. While I can understand you may not be familiar with my culture and it is right that there are many garbage, copycats in many forums, you have discounted the good works like in here do exist in many Chinese forums. Moreover, xda also has got enough clueless posts too.
From my first hand experience, there are some smart guys just like you and others in xda would write up tutorials, guidelines, organize the releases/requests of features/workflow, customizing the ROMs for specific Chinese markets and users. Some even tag with a MD5 hash for authentication. There are also "just rooted" stock ROMs... I have been using those and never have a single bot, malware, rootkit, spyware detected.
I hope you and others would not label all Chinese enthusiasts and developers as bad apples. Peace.
bravoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
howipig said:
Intratech,
Greetings.
I have been following your great topics and tips for a while. So I thank you.
But I am little disturbed by this comment. No, I am not pulling the race card because I think you are not a racist. While I can understand you may not be familiar with my culture and it is right that there are many garbage, copycats in many forums, you have discounted the good works like in here do exist in many Chinese forums. Moreover, xda also has got enough clueless posts too.
From my first hand experience, there are some smart guys just like you and others in xda would write up tutorials, guidelines, organize the releases/requests of features/workflow, customizing the ROMs for specific Chinese markets and users. Some even tag with a MD5 hash for authentication. There are also "just rooted" stock ROMs... I have been using those and never have a single bot, malware, rootkit, spyware detected.
I hope you and others would not label all Chinese enthusiasts and developers as bad apples. Peace.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to brand all Chinese and Russians as being bad, I'm just talking about getting something from a forum I don't know about. Being as I work in IT who know a small amount the security aspect of it, it makes me inherently sceptical of software from people I don't know especially when it comes from China, Russia and Eastern Europe.
I'm sure there are lots of talented Chinese, Eastern European and Russian developers right here on XDA and once I know them I wouldn't have a problem using their work, if I haven't already, but I still wouldn't get anything from a Chinese or Eastern European forum.... forum not the race/people.
As for Racism, if anyone tries to accuse of it they will probably get laughed at by anyone who knows me. I'd have a hard time living in my family if I was racist as I'm pretty sure we have the whole racial spectrum covered.
Intratech,
Thank you for your prompt response that clarifies where you stand. Granted it is only fair for you or anyone not to just take whatever available online without further scruntizing. At least, in your context, I can now understand you are more about exercising a necessary precaution. Especially when you do not know what exactly you are dealing with. To be honest, I would have become a hypocrite if I just do the same with other ROMs specifically customized for other markets than mine.
I think that we can call it a matter of principle and personal preference when choosing the right combo for each of us.
Once again, I appreciate your reply.
All users on the latest i9100G are already using the 2.3.6 out of the box, so it is available for SGS2 except not for the i9100 yet. The G already has this but words is that the firmware running on the G has a capped of 1008mhz on the CPU.