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The Only Thing That I Got From This Forum!

HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM

spoke too soon i guess the terminology, u got a fully fledged working liberated rom for gps, and its a good edition, we have to continue to talk even if no result appears so we can show the honored developers that we are still egger for what ever they are finding so they continue to develope, otherwise they will think theretime is just lost for bunsh of ghosts, if you look at my post onto ways of using ur shift so u can make it more intersting untill that time where u its completly unlocked, i think september is going to be the best month for shift full of good news and following to that xmass time where the big bomb phone being enabled am not ofcourse basing this on any finding nor i have contacted Nostradamos lately , its how i wish things to go

(1) And what did you contribute?

pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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[2] Do you have better ideas to help this out?

I do not contribute, since I do not know anything of programming, but at least, read and support the work of many, many people, which do it for free. However, one of the things I will never do is demand anything here, only wait patiently.
Since I bought my Tytn two years ago, one of the reasons I bought the Shift (and very soon the Diamond) was the existence of "xda-developers" and the people which is in here.
Please, be more sensible to all of us: read the forum if you like, take and use the software which suits to you, but never, never demand anything here. The only thing you can do is to be grateful to all those unknown people which make possible the existence of this site.
José.

villalain said:
I do not contribute, since I do not know anything of programming, but at least, read and support the work of many, many people, which do it for free. However, one of the things I will never do is demand anything here, only wait patiently.
Since I bought my Tytn two years ago, one of the reasons I bought the Shift (and very soon the Diamond) was the existence of "xda-developers" and the people which is in here.
Please, be more sensible to all of us: read the forum if you like, take and use the software which suits to you, but never, never demand anything here. The only thing you can do is to be grateful to all those unknown people which make possible the existence of this site.
José.
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i agree 100% with you am a user of windows based mobile since 2003 and i still use it because of this forum, it always made any phone i buy worth 4 or 5 times more than its reall value, even the shift now if it coasts 1400
i would say my return value is like that
600 for vista laptop side
300 for winmo side
the remainder is what this site will give me and guess what after 1 year from today the value will be another 900 dollars which is more than the original value where you have bought this phone at

pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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Firstly, take your caps lock off, it means youre shouting!
Secondly, I have owned a Shift since the day it was released in the UK. these forums have been invaluable to me personally. Using the forums I have: -
Liberated my Shift
Dual Booting my shift with XP
Solved a Wi-fi problem
Taken advice on the dissapearing SD card issues
And will be trying the new ROM
How can you possibly say its a waste of time. Its comments like yours (which are obviously written in anger) that really annoy me. I am not a programmer so I cannot assist with ROMs etc, but I check this forum everyday and I am thankful the guys/gals at XDA-Developers keep this site up and running for FREE for the likes of you and me.
I suggest you get off your high horse and apologise. If it wasnt for the likes of Cmonex, Prof and Febelus (who worked so hard finding XP drivers) sites like XDA-Developers would not exist, then we'd all have to work a lot harder to make our devices more usuable.

pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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Please if you do not like it think that no one forced you to join.
respect the effort of all the members.
if you cant find anything usefull then try harder to find it, myself I found a lot of things here.
regards
and keep your voice down.

pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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If you dont submit anything and only like to take you have no right to say anything .
I dont know how to program and therefore Iam very happy with this site it helps me a lot there is a answer here for most problems and there are people here dedicating a lot of there spare time to help us and I suppose themself out . we should salute them not attack them .
There is ofcourse a better solution please stay of this site or keep silent.

Agree with everyone's comments - firstly, please respect the work that has already taken place...it is not insiginificant as you would have us all think. Secondly, liek me you propbably cannot contribute to code work, but you CAN contribute support by discussing experiences no matter how small.
Communities are about sharing, not sitting back waiting for those doing the work to deliver rewards at your feet...wake up...

I guess the most obvious statement would be :
" When you bought the Shift, didnt you know about all its limitations
or do you just want to mooch of contributions to this forum? "
i am so tired of people who buy their devices, expecting the members
of this forum to turn them in to marbels of technology.
I bought the shift because I thought it would be useful for me, and it is.
Any modification, hint or advice from the people here and any contribution
i can make, are god given.
Thank you all for the hard work guys and girls...

Well said!
aquasesh said:
I guess the most obvious statement would be :
" When you bought the Shift, didnt you know about all its limitations
or do you just want to mooch of contributions to this forum? "
i am so tired of people who buy their devices, expecting the members
of this forum to turn them in to marbels of technology.
I bought the shift because I thought it would be useful for me, and it is.
Any modification, hint or advice from the people here and any contribution
i can make, are god given.
Thank you all for the hard work guys and girls...
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aquasesh
You are right. I come here regularly, so that I could learn something and make my devices for better usage by extending and expanding their capabilities. This forum is more educative than anything else. Sometimes you have to wait for a better result. This is not a paid forum or support. Everyone here is putting their free cycles and making these devices more powerful and useful. the more you wait, the more you learn. Majority of times it takes a lot of time, because it is step by step advancement not a single day work, because most of us have to learn and understand device architecture and remove barriers; even a human's birth takes well more than 9 months and patience. There will be people like pcAngel, who would want everything right immediately, well then, they should not buy Shift.
Thank you very much to everyone, who is contributing to make our devices powerful.
My 2 cents
Ram

I find myself as a long time lurker needing to come out from under my rock and finally comment about this quite stereotypical noob troll. From his utterly 733tspeak, caps lock pounding, noob troll bleat we can determine that he most likely is the quintessential internet tough guy that can not afford one of these devices unless he steals it. I am in awe the moron here can find something on the internet other then 2girls1cup and his hand on his snake. That being said, after powering through his 12 year old fresh on a post board rant, I am still lost as to what if anything this troll wants to express other then the " I am entitled to it because I [email protected]#$ing say so" post of the ignorant. That being said I am curious, junior, whether your 12 year old idiot ass, understands what goes into reverse engineering a device ROM and then building a custom built ROM? Please let us know so we can add you to the project.
Jackass...

Well..........
I agree with saiweb, worldpcdude and aquasesh....
What if anything has pcangel contributed? You show your complete ignorance of the device by basically missing the point of XDA altogether...
The likes of pof / thaihugo / cmonex etc that have made invaluable progress for us all in regards to the shift's functionality should be respected and appreciated...
Yes many of us would like things faster but if you can't add to the collective through your own abilities at least have the common courtesy of not showing you complete lack of intelligence by your ill advised, impolite initial post...
If you have nothing constructive to say, spare US ALL (yes I shouted that) your indignant rant and just say NOTHING AT ALL...
Any basic research into the shift would have provided you an understanding of what it would do and where it's shortcomings were and many of us bought a shift (I was one of the first in the UK to have one) with this acceptance...
XDA has shown over many years they are masters at making a device do what it was never designed to / intended to do, and we have all been the better for it.... We need more people like the XDA developers and LESS PEOPLE LIKE YOU...
Blitzspear

Men of Little Faith.......
Someone please inform this fellow that XDA Developers is not a government department. Deep down I have a feeling that the guy never meant what was stated. My gut feeling is that his is bad case of a stale joke. So let us all laugh off the joke and live happily ever after......
I hate cowards. The fellow started this thread and vanished. If he/she/it is serious about the nasty comments why not post a response in defence of his position. He is the type that start bar brawls and quietly slip out while jaws are being broken.
Most of us bought our Shifts with full knowledge of its limitations. We all know the hardware is fantastic but the problem is the supplied software. Its like hTC merely built for us a very nice house but supplied crap furniture. And someone is working on the best formula to get us the perfect furniture for our beautiful house. Can anybody in their right mind start abusing the person who is working on a formula to supply the furniture for free??????
I bet this guy has never made similar rants against hTC. Yet he has the audacity to insult the guys who are working to make the Shift the device that we all yearn for. Methinks the fellow should be bumped off the forum!
Men of little faith!!!!

PlayStation said:
Someone please inform this fellow that XDA Developers is not a government department. Deep down I have a feeling that the guy never meant what was stated. My gut feeling is that his is bad case of a stale joke. So let us all laugh off the joke and live happily ever after......
I hate cowards. The fellow started this thread and vanished. If he/she/it is serious about the nasty comments why not post a response in defence of his position. He is the type that start bar brawls and quietly slip out while jaws are being broken.
Most of us bought our Shifts with full knowledge of its limitations. We all know the hardware is fantastic but the problem is the supplied software. Its like hTC merely built for us a very nice house but supplied crap furniture. And someone is working on the best formula to get us the perfect furniture for our beautiful house. Can anybody in their right mind start abusing the person who is working on a formula to supply the furniture for free??????
I bet this guy has never made similar rants against hTC. Yet he has the audacity to insult the guys who are working to make the Shift the device that we all yearn for. Methinks the fellow should be bumped off the forum!
Men of little faith!!!!
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Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON

pcangel said:
Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON
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That's two words.... if not more.

...the forum done a lot for me.
My Shift changed from useless to useful.
OK, the development is a bit slow, but there are people who do their work on a free base.
Many thanks to them!!!!

pcangel said:
Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON
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LMAO
dude, evidently you didn't read the post, or you might have noticed that he called you for what you are... A Troll.

well....... again..........
Whilst it never gets old insulting a 'troll' could a mod lock this thread or even delete it please.
Blitz

This Site USED to be ace

This site used to be ace
Now its full of idiots who dont know the answer say they have downloaded things that arent even available because they think its funny
Wasting time with endless pointless posts
Shame how failure comes with mainstream

I do agree at ttimes finding the right answers can be difficult here. But I still think the site is great. There are many helpful folks heree with the knowledge. This is a great community as one learns how to do a certain task from others, he/she then shares the joy. Since you had a bad experience with some of your questions does not mean its the site's problem.
I was a complete noob when it comes to android. I still am, yet this site helped me manage to debtand my phone and root it. It looked very difficultat the beginning but with the how tos i got here, it was no more.
I suggest you look for a better site. But I am 100% sure you can't find one.
And please keep in mind, wildfire is a relatively new device and hence custom ROMs are yet to be cooked.
Good day.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

m60kaf said:
This site used to be ace
Now its full of idiots who dont know the answer say they have downloaded things that arent even available because they think its funny
Wasting time with endless pointless posts
Shame how failure comes with mainstream
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It still IS!
And I can see that you haven't cluttered the board up much since you joined! 3 posts since 2.5 years!

The reason why chinese dont share the rom with your guys

When i saw this, i may stand up and say something
Originally Posted by pekas
Why don't chinese people of XDA.cn share the build with us?
Chinese people don't share with outsiders and "non-communists" , plus this whole thing looks like some real bullcrap to me
I was able to register, but not to find something useful. I had a good laugh tho... (@ the google translation of their site) xD
In my country, we have the similar problem, we dont know who has the rom, as far as we know is the tow videos released on the internet show us that our HD2 can really run the WP7. the individuals there are still waiting for the news, be patient, if there's any news of wp7 ON HD2 from xda.cn, i will notice you guys.
ok?

thanks woion0415, this is much appreciated

Thanks alot woion0415. Now go and find that ROM for us!!

Ok good to know, but why they don't share with us? I think atm they don't share with anyone, as there is no download at xda.cn.. No one says Russian don't share with us, only because Cotulla didn't release MagLdr to public yet so I don't think it would be helpful to post such offensive threads..

I don't think there is a flashable rom. I heard that they just have one of the test hd2s Microsoft flashed to developed wp7. Someone else said that the hd2 was flashed with wp7 with a jtag flasher, so if either of those are the case, which I'm beginning to suspect, there is no rom and may not be for a while. I would think that if there was a rom, somebody would've gotten whole of it or atleast know something about it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

woion0415 said:
when i saw this, i may stand up and say something
Originally Posted by pekas
Why don't chinese people of XDA.cn share the build with us?
Chinese people don't share with outsiders and "non-communists" , plus this whole thing looks like some real bullcrap to me
I was able to register, but not to find something useful. I had a good laugh tho... (@ the google translation of their site) xD
in my country, we have the similar problem, we dont know who has the rom, as far as we know is the tow videos released on the internet show us that our HD2 can really run the WP7. the individuals there are still waiting for the news, be patient, if there's any news of wp7 ON HD2 from xda.cn, i will notice your guys.
ok?
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Please do not let the fellow who wrote the derogatory post bother anyone. Even if he was joking, his way of thought is not indicative of the quality of people on XDA-Developers. Best thing to do is just ignore ignorant posts.
With that said, it will be fun watching to see who now comes up first with a working Windows Phone 7 ROM. Now that is what I would call healthy national competition!

thanks for the understanding
i must confess that i am not surf the net often, and i will not always focus in this title, but when i know any news from XDA.cn, i will come and tell the news. not for the few people who wrote derogatory post but the big family.

yah none of us users have a flashable rom, while we should be patient and wait.
and, thx to cottula&other developers who made it possible to run wp7 on hd2

by now, no flashable WP7 on HD2 rom released from xda.cn.....
i think there must be some reasons for them decide to do so.
the guys on xda.cn are also waiting for this.

I'm from chinese,as we konws,all of chinese are waiting for the rom.....

Thank for all of your informations, it's good to see people who can help us to anderstand.
In my opinion it's a global waiting

the video of wp7 run on hd2 come from a businessman ，as we can know from the sound in the video 。the day when the rom will release is hard to know

You say before it was meizu, but why, what interest for them to do that ?

fake
its fake !!! if you see the video look at the app is from 6.5wm , its just a shell no wp7 , we must wait cotulla

vasilisxxx said:
its fake !!! if you see the video look at the app is from 6.5wm , its just a shell no wp7 , we must wait cotulla
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I'm tired to read everywhere wait cotulla.
Yes he's doing an amazing work, but I want imagine that he is not the only one who can do everything that.

Hey i'm a communist trapped in a man's body.. can i have the ROM pls?. ;P

nipuna said:
Hey i'm a communist trapped in a man's body.. can i have the ROM pls?. ;P
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such a mature thing to say...
and yes, lame joke as it is.

no wp7 rom，its a joke。。。

a Bag full of Thankness and Pleasure to the author :
Thank you for posting a bad image of us at their site (xda.cn) Now even there is a thread talking about the foreigner who went to the chinese website and registered but he didn't find what he was looking for, thus he called them fake and selfish ... you are now the talk of the chinese .. So they said that others think chinese aren't communist !! and they hated us .. you can see wonderful posts about us in this thread : bbs.xda.cn/thread-96523-3-1.html enjoy your journy.
A Little note,
when you want to express some feelings, try to make them individual and not to contain others with your thoughts
And btw neither us nor them have a flashable ROM, they are just like us, waiting anxiously for the release !

Please stop posting comments that it is fake, unless you can prove it.. This is only confusing to people.. For me this is like when cotulla posted a video of WP7 booting, I looked every day after it until I realized that it wouldn't come in near future.. Now we don't even know if it (chinese ROM) is for real, so calm down it's done when it's done..

Good news, here is another video from my country! HD2 runing the WP7!!!

Sorry guys, we still dont know who has the rom, but i guess, she may be a businessman. the reason why she dont want to release the rom is that she just want to raise the prices of HD2. i hate this practice. I have inquired the mobile char, its belong to the Shenzhen City.
You may have already seen the video, but somebody may need it:
Link:http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwODU2NzQ0.html

no idea why anyone would want to watch another video of someone else's phone.
The hype over wp7 on hd2 has got totally out of hand. It's not even particularly good on a wp7 phone.
Bored of wobbly videos. They should release it so people here can try it or shut up!

hi, guy, Don’t be so grumpy about it. we just want to confirm that the HD2 can really run WP7, sooner or later they will release the rom, whatever it takes, this is a good news, right?

woion0415 said:
hi, guy, Don’t be so grumpy about it. we just want to confirm that the HD2 can really run WP7, sooner or later they will release the rom, whatever it takes, this is a good news, right?
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+ 1.. let us shut up and wait, Thanks for the effort Sir!

Far out man all these noobs posting last weeks news...
Learn to search and read before posting!!!

Am i just work too hard to make you feel unfomfortable? then shut up man, i am not doing this for you, little extremist!

Don't mean to sound grumpy or put anyone's efforts down.
But its just not news anymore. I think most rational minded people have probably accepted wp7 on hd2 exists. That much we know from Devs inside XDA already.
Yeah I'll try it on hd2 when released.. but I already know I'll use 6.5.3 as my daily driver for a good while to come. WP7 is everything we here should hate given its so locked down - it really isn't worth this fuss!

Ok nice but wheres the link????

DJW6927 said:
Don't mean to sound grumpy or put anyone's efforts down.
But its just not news anymore. I think most rational minded people have probably accepted wp7 on hd2 exists. That much we know from Devs inside XDA already.
Yeah I'll try it on hd2 when released.. but I already know I'll use 6.5.3 as my daily driver for a good while to come. WP7 is everything we here should hate given its so locked down - it really isn't worth this fuss!
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I think one of the reasons people are hungry for news of running Windows Phone 7 on the HTC HD2 is that it is part of the inherent spirit of the original purpose of organizing XDA-Developers in the first place. XDA of course was a brand name used by 02 on the first phones they sold that were manufactured by a relatively young Taiwanese company that had changed its name of Hi Tech Computers to HTC. The original XDA-DEvelopers guys were mostly engineers and were determined to unlock more features of these PDAs, as well as making these PDAs do more than what they were first intended to do. The XDA-Developers guys knew that the more people involved, the more knowledge could be gained and shared.
I still have an old O2 XDA II that is happily running Windows Mobile 6.5.3. It originally came with Windows Mobile 2003, Chinese version. XDA-Developers has allowed this old PDA to have a really extended life.
XDA-Developers has really changed over the years as membership grew. Much civility of the older members is being drowned out by new members, to the point where a noob of a few months calls others noobs and cannot offer any other information than to search.
I enjoy seeing any news on the development of Windows Phone 7 on the HD2; it is similar to when our PDAs running on 2003 could migrate to 2005, and then 6.x
I also appreciate the fact that our friends in China are participating more now. Some of the younger guys there now are really highly trained specialists in areas that pertain to smart phones. And, I appreciate the fact that some of these guys in China are making an effort to keep us updated on any progress that is made there.
I think we should all also remember that for some Chinese it is a daunting challenge to navigate a complex site like XDA-Developers, and that it is not always easy for them to communicate what they really want to when they have to translate from Chinese to English. It is much more difficult to do this than, say, translate a European language into English.
So, hopefully, allowances should be made, and we should all welcome the participation of our Chinese friends. Now, I wish HTC would go back to making truly global phones, rather than regional phones, LOL

Thank you for your understanding.

Thank you for the info, but i can't find the link to the video ^^

Plenty of intelligent comments there. Hey I wouldn't be reading the thread if I wasn't interested in the news.
On the subject of spirit of XDA though - until there's openess and sharing then they're not complying to what this place stands for. Right now its just building publicity and we're all wondering for what gain for them.

DJW6927 said:
Plenty of intelligent comments there. Hey I wouldn't be reading the thread if I wasn't interested in the news.
On the subject of spirit of XDA though - until there's openess and sharing then they're not complying to what this place stands for. Right now its just building publicity and we're all wondering for what gain for them.
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My own personal opinion is that there has been no sharing of the ROM demoed in the videos is that what we saw was actually an earlier test of Windows Phone 7 on the HD2. I am sure you know that the HD2 was used as a testbed for the earlier development of Windows Phone 7. Others have commented on certain elements in the video that appear to be similar to earlier testing ROMs.
So, I guess, in the end, those in China who are in possession of the HD2 running WP7 are not much closer to developing a flashable ROM than others. In short, I think there is no ROM yet to be shared.
I think we also need to distinguish those who filmed the video (who may well be doing it for financial gain) from our Chinese friends who have signed up as members of XDA-Developers. Clearly, there is a major difference between these two groups of people.
Of course, all the above is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

You got a good point.

True, patient is a virtue. Please get yourself a seat and wait! Hope that gooooood news pop out soon!

This is an english only forum, please start writing in english before a mod comes here and erases your posts.

rlydiard said:
I think we should refrain from making posts in languages other than English as the rules of the forum are that it is an English forum. XDA-Developers moderators tend to get upset when they see other languages!
Other than that, no way will I get involved in flag disputes, but I do love those old Japanese style bath houses in Beitou, just north of Taipei. Really a relaxing experience after debating on XDA-Developers hours on end.
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Hi tell you. My hate japan

Ok, i just talking with my fellow countryman in personal question. Still, it was my fault.

be patient and wait
yah im still happy with my hd2 running android 2.2
btw哥们你跑来这儿发群嘲贴太牛逼了哇

woion0415 said:
Ok, i just talking with my fellow countryman in personal question. Still, it was my fault.
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Preface: The continuity of posts leading to the following mini-essay were rightly deleted by the mods, as those posts contained languages other than English. However, I feel the main points of this mini-essay remain valid. I am not trying to create conflict, but remind others what XDA-Developer is all about: inclusiveness instead of exclusiveness, and technology, not nationality.
Although, due to historical and geographical reasons, I am much more familiar with Traditional Chinese characters, rather than Simplified Chinese characters, I was able to follow the gist of the conversation. Even though the conversation was mostly in jest, it still was somewhat unsettling to me.
Just as I will stand up for you guys in China, so I will do for the Japanese. If you check all the different forums on XDA-Developers you will find many Japanese who have made exceptional contributions to the site and its members. XDA-Developers is really a global tech site, which should remain inclusive rather than exclusive. So, when we log in, I think we should drop our nationalistic preconceptions at the door and get down to the work of concentrating on our devices supported by XDA-Developers. What do you think about that?
In the past I have chastised those who use cheap nationalist jokes against others from another country, and I will do that again. You know that to be a truth, as you have read some of those posts.
I know some of you guys from China have had a bit of a tough time breaking into the social community of XDA-Developers, so I hope you guys don't dish out to others what you suffered when you first joined this site.
Well, that is said and done, and soon to be forgotten.
And, I can climb down from my soapbox again. I think I need a vacation from climbing up and down from that soapbox. It is really tiring me out!
PS. A couple things to always remember, always post in English, don't assume "others" aren't comprehending what you type in your native language, and park nationalist prejudices at the door so that you can truly enjoy what XDA-Developers has to offer without causing conflicts.

Developers for Samsung Galaxy S II

Hi all.. I would like to know that developers that develop ROMs for Samsung Galaxy S II...
Im Spanish and Im thinkin about buy Galaxy S II... I can buy it now but there is a problem...
Galaxy S II was anounce with NFC technology but it seems that NFC wont be available in UK Galaxy´s S II...
My problem: Im spanish and here arrives 15 may but i dont know if spanish version will come with NFC tech or not...
I just wanted to explain all that because I want to know if the best developers got Galaxy with NFC or without.
PD: Sorry if i write something wrong... And thanks all comunity
PD: Sorry! I foget "???" in headline...

knobody can tell me if developers will use UK version?

first learn to speak decent english... its very hard to digest the meaning of what you are asking & moreover, you are asking something which no one has.... why do you need that NFC technology ???
once it becomes popular, then you can think of that.... you know there is a technology where you can use this NFC function on SIM card.... i dont remember where i read it.... if that NFC method becomes so popular in your country, this technology will also become popular & it will be available for all....
till then dont worry about the NFC & better start learning some simple & understandable english pls.... or ask an apology at the end of your post.... atleast

manuvaidya said:
first learn to speak decent english... its very hard to digest the meaning of what you are asking & moreover, you are asking something which no one has.... why do you need that NFC technology ???
once it becomes popular, then you can think of that.... you know there is a technology where you can use this NFC function on SIM card.... i dont remember where i read it.... if that NFC method becomes so popular in your country, this technology will also become popular & it will be available for all....
till then dont worry about the NFC & better start learning some simple & understandable english pls.... or ask an apology at the end of your post.... atleast
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I know what he was asking, no need to try and be pretentious.
I don't know the answer to your question. It depends what country the developers are in etc.

It also depends upon the devs having access to the SGS 2 . Buy them one and i am sure it will be worked on .
Devs are a hobby not paid for they do it in their spare time and have to buy their own phones .
Russian devs but Russian SGS UK devs buy UK SGS .
As the SGS 2 is barely released who knows about NFC yet .
jje

Thanks everybody...
Sorry again for my english.. maybe is not normative.. But it think that somebody who knows english can understand it..

It's okay, your English is alright. It's not intuitive to understand but it gets the message across.
We do not know which areas will be getting NFC versions, when they will get them, or how incompatible they will be with each other.
If stuff for one version works, or is easily modified to work on the other version then there will be no problem. This is what I believe to be likely, but have no way of confirming. After all, we do not really have any details about the NFC version.
Personally I would not worry too much either way.

I think no matter it has NFC or not,only if it is i9100,roms will be compatible.

Or in another word,if the ROM of NFC version is not compatible with non NFC version,the name of NFC version won't be i9100.

At the Samsung Galaxy on Ice event in germany they said that the NFC version will only be available in Korea.

manuvaidya said:
first learn to speak decent english...
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wow how sad, this is a community, enthusiasm, hobby forum let's be nice? we are all trying to help not hinder.
But people are right still to early, just read up the back posts and you will understand the different versions and with that make a more educated pick?

manuvaidya said:
first learn to speak decent english... its very hard to digest the meaning of what you are asking & moreover, you are asking something which no one has.... why do you need that NFC technology ???
once it becomes popular, then you can think of that.... you know there is a technology where you can use this NFC function on SIM card.... i dont remember where i read it.... if that NFC method becomes so popular in your country, this technology will also become popular & it will be available for all....
till then dont worry about the NFC & better start learning some simple & understandable english pls.... or ask an apology at the end of your post.... atleast
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What an arrogant knob you are!

manuvaidya said:
first learn to speak decent english... its very hard to digest the meaning of what you are asking & moreover, you are asking something which no one has.... why do you need that NFC technology ???
once it becomes popular, then you can think of that.... you know there is a technology where you can use this NFC function on SIM card.... i dont remember where i read it.... if that NFC method becomes so popular in your country, this technology will also become popular & it will be available for all....
till then dont worry about the NFC & better start learning some simple & understandable english pls.... or ask an apology at the end of your post.... atleast
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Haha if you woulda said that to me to my face , I woulda knocked you out lil homie
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manuvaidya said:
first learn to speak decent english... its very hard to digest the meaning of what you are asking & moreover, you are asking something which no one has.... why do you need that NFC technology ???
once it becomes popular, then you can think of that.... you know there is a technology where you can use this NFC function on SIM card.... i dont remember where i read it.... if that NFC method becomes so popular in your country, this technology will also become popular & it will be available for all....
till then dont worry about the NFC & better start learning some simple & understandable english pls.... or ask an apology at the end of your post.... atleast
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you're a bit of a twat aren't you? instead of asking him to apologize for his lack of english skills we should be asking you to apologize for being such a pedantic asshole. this is an international community with members from all over the world. expecting everyone who comes here to have perfect english skills is unrealistic. lastly, i noticed that everyone that appears to be native english speakers had no problem figuring out what he was asking.

Let's get the rules out here.
manuvaidya said:
first learn to speak decent english... its very hard to digest the meaning of what you are asking & moreover, you are asking something which no one has.... why do you need that NFC technology ???
once it becomes popular, then you can think of that.... you know there is a technology where you can use this NFC function on SIM card.... i dont remember where i read it.... if that NFC method becomes so popular in your country, this technology will also become popular & it will be available for all....
till then dont worry about the NFC & better start learning some simple & understandable english pls.... or ask an apology at the end of your post.... atleast
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4. Use the English language.
We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
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Well clearly he tried, I know a forum post can be rude quickly since emotions/facial expressions can't be read but still, think about what you post.
Now this one:
LoveisPeace2012 said:
Haha if you woulda said that to me to my face , I woulda knocked you out lil homie
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2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and/or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive, therefore none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
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Be nice, be helpful.

By the look of it, this device seems way too awesome not to get a lot of developer support. Plus by the sounds of it, a lot of the SGS kernel work with regards to CM7 will be portable across here? I'm definitely going to be trying to get my hands on it! (Not that I count as much of a kernel dev, but we will get some real pro devs for sure! )
As to NFC or no NFC versions, they will probably be a different model number if it requires kernel changes. The kernels will probably be very similar anyway and easily portable between different SGS2 models, as with the SGS1. Except for the non amoled/exynos cpu versions, which would have very different drivers.

RyanZA said:
By the look of it, this device seems way too awesome not to get a lot of developer support. Plus by the sounds of it, a lot of the SGS kernel work with regards to CM7 will be portable across here? I'm definitely going to be trying to get my hands on it! (Not that I count as much of a kernel dev, but we will get some real pro devs for sure! )
As to NFC or no NFC versions, they will probably be a different model number if it requires kernel changes. The kernels will probably be very similar anyway and easily portable between different SGS2 models, as with the SGS1. Except for the non amoled/exynos cpu versions, which would have very different drivers.
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Well I am not a rom dev but what I wonder is this: can't NFC or non-NFC be solved with seperate drivers or does android require it in the kernel? Am I thinking too much windows now?