I had known about the poor translator.
Now I say to you all directly.
Many Chinese from xda.cn and members in here had seen the HD2 WP7 Video. From this video, we can find out 2 call number. One is 1860XXXXXXX and another is 1362XXXXXXX. My friend had called the number 1362XXXXXXX, and that person (maybe video recorder) said the HD2 WP7 ROM has many problems and if you install it and then you cannot return to WM6.5. So he dose not publish this ROM. I really don't konw whether this reason is true or false. I still believe that person is kindness. I am very glad for having communicated with him. We can call him again in a suitable time. I believe he can do more things about HD2.
Thank you.
Hi,
I don't understand.
What exactly do you mean?
Sorry...
Looks like some poor translator
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Hi,
I don't understand.
What exactly do you mean?
Sorry...
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sthEn said:
Looks like some poor translator
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Is he an English called the chinese then wrote down what he could understand ? or is he a chinese guy called the ROM's developer and asked ?'s then translated it to english for xda members for some reason ?
What I could barely understand is that we shouldn't be asking about the rom and it still have some problems (i.e can't reverse to WM 6.5 after flashing WP7) as well as we should await patiently
I had known about the poor translator.
Now I say to you all directly.
Many Chinese from xda.cn and members in here had seen the HD2 WP7 Video. From this video, we can find out 2 call number. One is 1860XXXXXXX and another is 1362XXXXXXX. My friend had called the number 1362XXXXXXX, and that person (maybe video recorder) said the HD2 WP7 ROM has many problems and if you install it and then you cannot return to WM6.5. So he dose not publish this ROM. I really don't konw whether this reason is true or false. I still believe that person is kindness. I am very glad for having communicated with him. We can call him again in a suitable time. I believe he can do more things about HD2.
Thank you.
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I would like to include many Chinese, global HD2 lover has seen the video WP7 HD2, we may safely from video found in two Chinese operator's phone number, my friend by dialing the number, 136 video of stakeholders dialed shooting and asked about WP7 situation. Each other and say, at present the ROM problem is still very much, and installation of the ROM cannot return, maybe this is a businessman use means, but I still does not have sufficient reason to doubt that I will still believe because ROM itself and cannot release that we will continue and video related the makers of the contact, get more frontal information. I hope the ROM development as to reduce commercial interests and conflicts. Hope everybody can await patiently. Thank you!
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I tried to run that through Google Translate by translating it from Chinese to English and the translation came out exactly the same??
Maybe the original post was not in Chinese?
At very begining, I believed the translator can do it very well.
But I was wrong. So please accept my apologize.
oh understand！ thanks for your provide information
Basically he and other Chinese individuals who are interested in WP7 on the HD2 have called a number asking for more information and have been told that the rom has issues, not least of which is that you are unable to restore a wm6.5 rom to the phone if you decide you dont want WP7 on it anymore. Still very much beta.
Maybe you can call him again and tell him to release his rom so the genius here work it out
We dont want wp 6.5
O que o palerma do chinês queria dizer, é que o chines que instalou o windows phone 7, está fodido, ficou com um telemovel a servir de pisa papeis.....e quem tentar instalar o windows phone 7 além de não ter utelidade porcausa dos erros, não podes reverter para o windows mobile 6.5
ficou entendido?
Translation:
What the chinese man want to say is : if you try to install the wp7 build you will be a stone paper on your desk =)
;9223034 said:
I had known about the poor translator.
Now I say to you all directly.
Many Chinese from xda.cn and members in here had seen the HD2 WP7 Video. From this video, we can find out 2 call number. One is 1860XXXXXXX and another is 1362XXXXXXX. My friend had called the number 1362XXXXXXX, and that person (maybe video recorder) said the HD2 WP7 ROM has many problems and if you install it and then you cannot return to WM6.5. So he dose not publish this ROM. I really don't konw whether this reason is true or false. I still believe that person is kindness. I am very glad for having communicated with him. We can call him again in a suitable time. I believe he can do more things about HD2.
Thank you.
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First, I think we should thank Luoyong for sharing this information with us. I am quite interested in just how the person in the video got the ROM on the HD2. Was it similar to the usual method of updating a stock ROM, or flashing a cooked ROM? One also wonders if something more esoteric like JTAG had to be used. Or, did the person somehow get his hands on one of the HD2s that was used as a testbed for WP7 in its earlier stages of development?
Hopefully, with more information, and more understanding, those naysayers who keep saying all of this is fake will be silenced.
Once again, thanks to Luoyong for sharing this information with us. I look forward to reading more information about this subject from Luoyong, who obviously is a reliable source.
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Maybe you can call him again and tell him to release his rom so the genius here work it out
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Or, perhaps, considering the nuances of being more diplomatic, one could suggest collaboration.
mhd88 said:
We dont want wp 6.5
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I think everyone else in this thread is talking about WP7, and not talking about what should be correctly identified as Windows Mobile 6.5
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We dont want wp 6.5
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There is no WP 6.5 but if you are not able to get back to Windows Mobile 6.5, i mean to install a stock ROM, you can also throw your phone into the dustbin at today dev status with WP7.
The developer from the video could get in contact with the guys from xda. Then a working WP7 ROM on the HD2 is possible, very soon
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First, I think we should thank Luoyong for sharing this information with us. I am quite interested in just how the person in the video got the ROM on the HD2. Was it similar to the usual method of updating a stock ROM, or flashing a cooked ROM? One also wonders if something more esoteric like JTAG had to be used. Or, did the person somehow get his hands on one of the HD2s that was used as a testbed for WP7 in its earlier stages of development?
Hopefully, with more information, and more understanding, those naysayers who keep saying all of this is fake will be silenced.
Once again, thanks to Luoyong for sharing this information with us. I look forward to reading more information about this subject from Luoyong, who obviously is a reliable source.
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First thank Rlydiard for your understanding.
On xda.cn we can find a WP7 theme software on WM6.5 mixed ROM. I let someone flash this rom. The desktop is similar with WP7. But call interface and more others are WM6.5's. At the same time I was seeing this video. In the video, many functions and opreation was not like WM6.5. I really don't know whether the operation is WP7 or not. Maybe it's a flash sofware? But she really call abother phone to show WP7 calling.
Before this video anouncement, HD2 price become increase. From 2 months ago the pirce has increase from 2600RMB to 3100RMB. On xda.cn someone has guessed the relation between the video and price.
One hand, if this video is not true, of course ,we don't know how to realize this effect by a false method agaist ROM flash. Surely it's likely to explain that the business man didn't want to share a false method and this result will impact HD2 phone sale.
On the other hand, if the HD2 WP7 ROM is true, I believe he had not reasons to protect this rom from us. Because businessman and we are not know each other. So QQ team and I will do our best to try to contact with him to make clear this information and release his concern. We hope he or she can publish this ROM for us and we can support he or she to complete HD2 WP7 ROM.
By the end, I am from China and I had using PPC->WM for 5 years. I am willing to help us to resolve this misunderstanding. Thanks all a lots and Chinese are friendly.
I call the video recorder just now.
I am very sorry to tell us that HD2 WP7 ROM is not true.
In this calling I am very pleased to ask about whether the ROM is true.
And he quickly said two words “假的” (in English it is "false"). Suddently he droped the call.
I really don't know how to simulate so truely.
I am so disappoint about it.
So xda-developers and xda.cn members need work hard by another method. Maybe Russian can help us.
So I am very sorry again in the name of Chinese.
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First thank Rlydiard for your understanding.
On xda.cn we can find a WP7 theme software on WM6.5 mixed ROM. I let someone flash this rom. The desktop is similar with WP7. But call interface and more others are WM6.5's. At the same time I was seeing this video. In the video, many functions and opreation was not like WM6.5. I really don't know whether the operation is WP7 or not. Maybe it's a flash sofware? But she really call abother phone to show WP7 calling.
Before this video anouncement, HD2 price become increase. From 2 months ago the pirce has increase from 2600RMB to 3100RMB. On xda.cn someone has guessed the relation between the video and price.
One hand, if this video is not true, of course ,we don't know how to realize this effect by a false method agaist ROM flash. Surely it's likely to explain that the business man didn't want to share a false method and this result will impact HD2 phone sale.
On the other hand, if the HD2 WP7 ROM is true, I believe he had not reasons to protect this rom from us. Because businessman and we are not know each other. So QQ team and I will do our best to try to contact with him to make clear this information and release his concern. We hope he or she can publish this ROM for us and we can support he or she to complete HD2 WP7 ROM.
By the end, I am from China and I had using PPC->WM for 5 years. I am willing to help us to resolve this misunderstanding. Thanks all a lots and Chinese are friendly.
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Hi Louyong,
You are welcome, Louyong
Perhaps it is a bit easier for me to understand the situation, as I have been in contact with a few of you guys in China, and the fact that I am one of those guys who has spent most of my life in Asia. I did hear about the prices of the HD2 rising there, which seems odd to say the least, especially with the release of WP7 coming soon there. Already in Taiwan, both CHT and Taiwan Mobile are selling English UI versions of two HTC WP7 phones, so I do not think the price of HD2s will rise here. From Taiwan Mobile, one can buy an HD2, without a contract for about NT$13,000. I expect that price will drop again soon.
I really do appreciate your efforts in getting to the bottom of the whole situation. Unfortunately, there were a few impetuous individuals on XDA-Developers who were, shall we say, disrespectful to an extreme. This threatened to cause increasing misunderstandings between East and West, and XDA-Developers and XDA.CN.
Fortunately, there are guys like you who are really cool, so I think the situation will not escalate any further. Again, I, for one, really appreciate your efforts in getting the definitive facts of this situation.
Just think what could happen if the top developers of XDA-Developers and XDA.CN got together to collaborate!
Again, thanks for your efforts in this situation. I know there are many decent, good people on XDA-Developers who will also appreciate your efforts.
luoyong said:
I call the video recorder just now.
I am very sorry to tell us that HD2 WP7 ROM is not true.
In this calling I am very pleased to ask about whether the ROM is true.
And he quickly said two words “假的” (in English it is "false"). Suddently he droped the call.
I really don't know how to simulate so truely.
I am so disappoint about it.
So xda-developers and xda.cn members need work hard by another method. Maybe Russian can help us.
So I am very sorry again in the name of Chinese.
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That was fast work there, Louyong. It could be that he has an HD2 that was used as a testbed for WP7, as some of the UI did look like earlier UI prototypes. As far as I know, there are a few HD2s floating around that were used for WP7 testbeds.
Maybe we will never know now the real truth about that video, but you are right, it looks like it will be others who finally port WP7 to the HD2.
Well, it does not really matter that the information was not happy, what is important is that you gave us the correct current situation, and thanks for that.
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well guys first of all i'l like to thank u all for making all the good applications available to magician users,
Secondly, i'll thank the texas guy from russia to spend his time working on the 2.03tx rom (which i believe, is not an upgrade)
Finally i'd like to say it loud & clear to u guys who founded this forum & the site that
"I THINK U PEOPLE JUST DID NOT TRY TO CUSTOMIZE THE WM5 ROM FOR MAGICIAN BECAUSE U GUYS WERE FUNDED BY THE PARENT HTC COMPANY TO GET NEW MODELS SO THAT THEIR SALES DONT GET AFFECTED,
U ALL GOT FUNDED BY THE COMPANIES TO BY NEW PHONES WM PHONES AND A NEW MARKET TO DEVELOP APPLICATIONS FOR THEM, SO U ABANDANED THE GOOD OLD MAGICIAN,
AND IF IT ISENT SO THEN I'M SORRY TO SAY THAY THIS PROVES THAT U ARE FIT FOR NOTTING ASSHOLES WHO JUST GAVE IT UP WITH SILLY REASONS
IF MEMORY &HARDWARE R ISSUE THE LOOK AT I-MATE SMART FLIP WHICH HAS 64 MB ROM & RUNS WM5,
AT LEAST U SMART ASSES DIDNT EVEN TRY COMMON THINGS WHAT A SMALL HACKER CAN DO- "U DIDNT EVEN GIVE A TRANSFORMATION PACK LIKE THE ONE AVAILABLE FOR DESKTOP PC WITH WINDOWS XP TO CHANG IT TO VISTA LOOK ALIKE TRANSFORMATION PACK"
PLEASE DONT FOOL PEOPLE JUST FOR YOUR LACK OF INTREST
I don't think I understand your post, it seems you are calling the founders of this site "assholes" for not giving you WM5 for your Magician?
Hey .. why don't you learn and upgrade you're magician by yourself
I think there is only one A****** in this site
AHAHAHA OMG l0ol0ol they still coming after all this time ;p
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well guys first of all i'l like to thank u all for making all the good applications available to magician users,
Secondly, i'll thank the texas guy from russia to spend his time working on the 2.03tx rom (which i believe, is not an upgrade)
Finally i'd like to say it loud & clear to u guys who founded this forum & the site that
"I THINK U PEOPLE JUST DID NOT TRY TO CUSTOMIZE THE WM5 ROM FOR MAGICIAN BECAUSE U GUYS WERE FUNDED BY THE PARENT HTC COMPANY TO GET NEW MODELS SO THAT THEIR SALES DONT GET AFFECTED,
U ALL GOT FUNDED BY THE COMPANIES TO BY NEW PHONES WM PHONES AND A NEW MARKET TO DEVELOP APPLICATIONS FOR THEM, SO U ABANDANED THE GOOD OLD MAGICIAN,
AND IF IT ISENT SO THEN I'M SORRY TO SAY THAY THIS PROVES THAT U ARE FIT FOR NOTTING ASSHOLES WHO JUST GAVE IT UP WITH SILLY REASONS
IF MEMORY &HARDWARE R ISSUE THE LOOK AT I-MATE SMART FLIP WHICH HAS 64 MB ROM & RUNS WM5,
AT LEAST U SMART ASSES DIDNT EVEN TRY COMMON THINGS WHAT A SMALL HACKER CAN DO- "U DIDNT EVEN GIVE A TRANSFORMATION PACK LIKE THE ONE AVAILABLE FOR DESKTOP PC WITH WINDOWS XP TO CHANG IT TO VISTA LOOK ALIKE TRANSFORMATION PACK"
PLEASE DONT FOOL PEOPLE JUST FOR YOUR LACK OF INTREST
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Hmm...you are right, these people have been lying. I just clicked and followed this link sent to me by a friend, and now I'm the owner of a WM6 (not 5! it's soo much better) device! Try it out!
backend.htc.com/developers/magician/wm6/source/bin/nk.nb0
magician upgrade
hey guys if u r all genius who make wm6 rom for devices older than magician then, just tell me why the chinese made smartphones & pda's can run wm5/6 though there hardware is much more lower then magician, and why i said that u were funded by companies is, because i m not smart like u so one thing that i didnt get is why the reasons have been changing for NO WM5 FOR MAGICIAN from 1) lack of ram, then 2) lack of rom, to 3) no drivers & 4)nk.nbf problem AND SO ON, If rom was problem then this forum itself provides link for 64mb to 128mb & still no wm5, doesn't this all seems to be like som kind of lack of intrest, or too many coincedencs in the device, PLEASE dont TAKE IT PERSONALLY but to my other friend who also answered my post i would only say that if i were also genius ass like him, then i would'nt have been in the forum. One more thing is that why do so many people seems to be claiming that they have seen wm5 on magician,
magician wm5 bcoz
no i m not calling the founders of the forum assholes, i m just saying that that when jam 128mb=charmer or so they say then why cant a charmer rom be customized for magician. u r the most experiencd people in this community, but i get a feeling that u did not give it your best try due to other prospects
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no i m not calling the founders of the forum assholes, i m just saying that that when jam 128mb=charmer or so they say then why cant a charmer rom be customized for magician. u r the most experiencd people in this community, but i get a feeling that u did not give it your best try due to other prospects
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You make it sound as if it is an obligation for someone to provide you with something, tell you what, how about being productive and learn to customize at least the 2003SE OS (so you would know at least the feel on how difficult it is for rom cookers) and provide us with at least a customized version like taxist(not texas) has made for the magician instead of whining and bellowing obnoxious and disrespectful statements which would not in any way encourage or at the very least strike an interest for any person to develop ROMS for the magician.
Whatever reasons they may have for not developing further may include other personal reasons other than your far fetched conspiracy theory, and if you cant contribute something which has the slightest merit in this forum then i say, shut up and respect them dumbass!
yeah! we need wm5 or wm6/6.1
helterskelter said:
I don't think I understand your post, it seems you are calling the founders of this site "assholes" for not giving you WM5 for your Magician?
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i agree with him i think your are all lazy f****** and bunch off a***oles for not even trying to do something about it just posting around stupid rumors if i could i would i would have done something about it,and you call your self 'developers' more like scums
Mod Edit: Excellent post, you just earnt a weeks ban.
twaha123 said:
i agree with him i think your are all lazy ****ers and bunch off asshole for not even trying to do something about it just posting around stupid rumors if i could i would i would have done something about it,and you call your self 'developers' more like scums
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watch your language sister!!!...maybe you should consider your self as a
twaha123 said:
lazy ****ers and bunch off asshole
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if you don't like being part of this great site then screw away...
yeah i want wm5 and 6 on my magician,but because i can't make it happen,i don't call anyone like you did...
With all this in mind: Can someone point me to where I can find a 'kitchen' to cook my Magician ROMs? I've searched the threads with no success.
Stop bad language for Magician
Come on, guys! please stop using bad language because you just can't get what you want from this forum. Everyone even tries to offer freebies. No WM5/WM6/WM6.1 for you because failure in trying. Try but faill. Try and fail. Last but not least, try by yourself. If you, Magician owners, succeed at even attempting to create WM5/WM6/WM6.1 Magician ROMs, that would be great. Thank god you truly did it.
please stop fighting and behave like sensible forum members.
Thanks
Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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I think no one going to do that.
Also a NAND version IS coming.
Only have patience
patience is an golden word only problem is i like silver comes before gold so hurry it already haha
nah, lave htc alone lol
lets all spam microsoft with the title "Who needs Windows Phone 7?" lol
leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
kingofyo1 said:
leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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but seriously, isnt there ANY way we can convince htc ?
topderob said:
Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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There is no way, EVER, that would work. If you manage to get ANY help on android development for hd2 by htc, I will personaly come down to your place and give you all the money I have. Thats how confident I am.
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leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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Lmao.....
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I wouldn't "spam" them. That would just irritate them and give us a bad look.
I think it's unlikely they would create and official Android for HD2, because afterall, that's not going to make them a huge amount of money. If they did do it, it would be more of a kind gesture to the community.
The best we can do is to write an open letter, explain why we believe an official Android release for the HD2 would be largely beneficial for both HTC and HD2 owners (present and future). Ensure they're aware of the current interest, and perhaps do a poll of who would buy the HD2 if Android was an official option.
It will make them more money, cos there are many people out there that are skeptical about buying an HD2 cos of its retarded OS(u know which one i mean)...tell me, doesnt an Hd2 running two official OS's sound super-tempting to you?
If someone would help us, will be Google department, giving us a free HD2 Android tree, but unofficial means, giving that to Cottula Team.....we are their embassadores....MS don't want we will be that for WM7.....and HTC don't care, just want sell hardware.....and this is not good for their business.
*** you MS and your 7s.
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If someone would help us, will be Google department, giving us a free HD2 Android tree, but unofficial means, giving that to Cottula Team.....we are their embassadores....MS don't want we will be that for WM7.....and HTC don't care, just want sell hardware.....and this is not good for their business.
*** you MS and your 7s.
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wouldt work.. for it to work, google will need to ask their coders to come up with kernels to boot up android in hd2, not give us an os build..
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I wouldn't "spam" them. That would just irritate them and give us a bad look.
I think it's unlikely they would create and official Android for HD2, because afterall, that's not going to make them a huge amount of money. If they did do it, it would be more of a kind gesture to the community.
The best we can do is to write an open letter, explain why we believe an official Android release for the HD2 would be largely beneficial for both HTC and HD2 owners (present and future). Ensure they're aware of the current interest, and perhaps do a poll of who would buy the HD2 if Android was an official option.
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like u say, i wouldt recommend spamming htc.. but maybe we can have an online petition and gather virtual signatures and submit it to HTC?
would that be a better idea?
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wouldt work.. for it to work, google will need to ask their coders to come up with kernels to boot up android in hd2, not give us an os build..
like u say, i wouldt recommend spamming htc.. but maybe we can have an online petition and gather virtual signatures and submit it to HTC?
would that be a better idea?
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I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
pack21 said:
I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
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while your all at it, 'sign' here too if you havnt already.
http://layar.uservoice.com/forums/20979-general/suggestions/313434-windows-mobile-client?ref=title
make sure google dont forget about us
I suppose one could petition for it, to show them the interest. But it's still quite unlikely. They would have to (I think) strike some deal with Microsoft to release the WinMo exclusivity with the HD2. I think they would also have a tough time selling Android-based units, purely because of the inconsistency of having a Windows button on the keypad.
I suppose a petition could convince them to get involved in the htc-linux project, ie. help the dev's out with any problems, questions, etc.
The new HTC Desire HD is almost identical (at least spec wise) to the HD2 (exept the Cam)! Why would HTC ever do an HD2 Android ROM when they are going to make an "all new" device with Android? HTC woun't care for us! We already bought the device! They need new customers to buy new devices and not having "old" ones ugraded all the time!
pack21 said:
I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
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lets do it guys im in, lets make some noise. we buy the phone we should decide what so we want
dream on my friend.... cuz you don't have a clue how job is done in large corporations! they have licesnes, copyrights, huuuge amounts of paper for one phone, so they can't just say: "hey we can grab source, do android and make xda community happy! yay!"
they are about to release desireHD so if you want android buy that one!
only thing you will do by spamming to HTC is to attract a HUUUGE hord of lawyers that will shut down xda, htc-linux and whole thing our devs were working for.
They just look away now because "they can't be responsible for things you do with your phone" as lawsuits are often big amount of money and time spent.
if this kind of behavior continues it WILL get nasty! take conflipper as example, but you probably don't even know who that is! GROW UP CHILDREN, YOU AIN't PLAYIN' WITH LEGO ANYMORE
!! so shut down this thread and rather do a DONATION to devs, mix some air, or help older people on the street, just leave HTC and everyone else out !!!
i think that if HTC showed a little gratitute to their loyal customers it would just make them look better to the community (at least this community). without XDA htc would sell much less.. I bought HTC only because XDA exists.. and I was sure to get more value from my device this way than with any other brand.
HTC is well aware of this.. they know their business believe me...
maybe they're already helping developers undercover..hehehe.. who knows...
in this forum we all know that our next device will be android-powered anyway...
I love winmo.. i always had... but android is more advanced.. works good.. and has all the google goodies we all love...
HTC better take notice
When i saw this, i may stand up and say something
Originally Posted by pekas
Why don't chinese people of XDA.cn share the build with us?
Chinese people don't share with outsiders and "non-communists" , plus this whole thing looks like some real bullcrap to me
I was able to register, but not to find something useful. I had a good laugh tho... (@ the google translation of their site) xD
In my country, we have the similar problem, we dont know who has the rom, as far as we know is the tow videos released on the internet show us that our HD2 can really run the WP7. the individuals there are still waiting for the news, be patient, if there's any news of wp7 ON HD2 from xda.cn, i will notice you guys.
ok?
thanks woion0415, this is much appreciated
Thanks alot woion0415. Now go and find that ROM for us!!
Ok good to know, but why they don't share with us? I think atm they don't share with anyone, as there is no download at xda.cn.. No one says Russian don't share with us, only because Cotulla didn't release MagLdr to public yet so I don't think it would be helpful to post such offensive threads..
I don't think there is a flashable rom. I heard that they just have one of the test hd2s Microsoft flashed to developed wp7. Someone else said that the hd2 was flashed with wp7 with a jtag flasher, so if either of those are the case, which I'm beginning to suspect, there is no rom and may not be for a while. I would think that if there was a rom, somebody would've gotten whole of it or atleast know something about it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
woion0415 said:
when i saw this, i may stand up and say something
Originally Posted by pekas
Why don't chinese people of XDA.cn share the build with us?
Chinese people don't share with outsiders and "non-communists" , plus this whole thing looks like some real bullcrap to me
I was able to register, but not to find something useful. I had a good laugh tho... (@ the google translation of their site) xD
in my country, we have the similar problem, we dont know who has the rom, as far as we know is the tow videos released on the internet show us that our HD2 can really run the WP7. the individuals there are still waiting for the news, be patient, if there's any news of wp7 ON HD2 from xda.cn, i will notice your guys.
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Please do not let the fellow who wrote the derogatory post bother anyone. Even if he was joking, his way of thought is not indicative of the quality of people on XDA-Developers. Best thing to do is just ignore ignorant posts.
With that said, it will be fun watching to see who now comes up first with a working Windows Phone 7 ROM. Now that is what I would call healthy national competition!
thanks for the understanding
i must confess that i am not surf the net often, and i will not always focus in this title, but when i know any news from XDA.cn, i will come and tell the news. not for the few people who wrote derogatory post but the big family.
yah none of us users have a flashable rom, while we should be patient and wait.
and, thx to cottula&other developers who made it possible to run wp7 on hd2
by now, no flashable WP7 on HD2 rom released from xda.cn.....
i think there must be some reasons for them decide to do so.
the guys on xda.cn are also waiting for this.
I'm from chinese,as we konws,all of chinese are waiting for the rom.....
Thank for all of your informations, it's good to see people who can help us to anderstand.
In my opinion it's a global waiting
the video of wp7 run on hd2 come from a businessman ，as we can know from the sound in the video 。the day when the rom will release is hard to know
You say before it was meizu, but why, what interest for them to do that ?
fake
its fake !!! if you see the video look at the app is from 6.5wm , its just a shell no wp7 , we must wait cotulla
vasilisxxx said:
its fake !!! if you see the video look at the app is from 6.5wm , its just a shell no wp7 , we must wait cotulla
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I'm tired to read everywhere wait cotulla.
Yes he's doing an amazing work, but I want imagine that he is not the only one who can do everything that.
Hey i'm a communist trapped in a man's body.. can i have the ROM pls?. ;P
nipuna said:
Hey i'm a communist trapped in a man's body.. can i have the ROM pls?. ;P
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such a mature thing to say...
and yes, lame joke as it is.
no wp7 rom，its a joke。。。
a Bag full of Thankness and Pleasure to the author :
Thank you for posting a bad image of us at their site (xda.cn) Now even there is a thread talking about the foreigner who went to the chinese website and registered but he didn't find what he was looking for, thus he called them fake and selfish ... you are now the talk of the chinese .. So they said that others think chinese aren't communist !! and they hated us .. you can see wonderful posts about us in this thread : bbs.xda.cn/thread-96523-3-1.html enjoy your journy.
A Little note,
when you want to express some feelings, try to make them individual and not to contain others with your thoughts
And btw neither us nor them have a flashable ROM, they are just like us, waiting anxiously for the release !
Please stop posting comments that it is fake, unless you can prove it.. This is only confusing to people.. For me this is like when cotulla posted a video of WP7 booting, I looked every day after it until I realized that it wouldn't come in near future.. Now we don't even know if it (chinese ROM) is for real, so calm down it's done when it's done..
Sorry guys, we still dont know who has the rom, but i guess, she may be a businessman. the reason why she dont want to release the rom is that she just want to raise the prices of HD2. i hate this practice. I have inquired the mobile char, its belong to the Shenzhen City.
You may have already seen the video, but somebody may need it:
Link:http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwODU2NzQ0.html
no idea why anyone would want to watch another video of someone else's phone.
The hype over wp7 on hd2 has got totally out of hand. It's not even particularly good on a wp7 phone.
Bored of wobbly videos. They should release it so people here can try it or shut up!
hi, guy, Don’t be so grumpy about it. we just want to confirm that the HD2 can really run WP7, sooner or later they will release the rom, whatever it takes, this is a good news, right?
woion0415 said:
hi, guy, Don’t be so grumpy about it. we just want to confirm that the HD2 can really run WP7, sooner or later they will release the rom, whatever it takes, this is a good news, right?
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+ 1.. let us shut up and wait, Thanks for the effort Sir!
Far out man all these noobs posting last weeks news...
Learn to search and read before posting!!!
Am i just work too hard to make you feel unfomfortable? then shut up man, i am not doing this for you, little extremist!
Don't mean to sound grumpy or put anyone's efforts down.
But its just not news anymore. I think most rational minded people have probably accepted wp7 on hd2 exists. That much we know from Devs inside XDA already.
Yeah I'll try it on hd2 when released.. but I already know I'll use 6.5.3 as my daily driver for a good while to come. WP7 is everything we here should hate given its so locked down - it really isn't worth this fuss!
Ok nice but wheres the link????
DJW6927 said:
Don't mean to sound grumpy or put anyone's efforts down.
But its just not news anymore. I think most rational minded people have probably accepted wp7 on hd2 exists. That much we know from Devs inside XDA already.
Yeah I'll try it on hd2 when released.. but I already know I'll use 6.5.3 as my daily driver for a good while to come. WP7 is everything we here should hate given its so locked down - it really isn't worth this fuss!
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I think one of the reasons people are hungry for news of running Windows Phone 7 on the HTC HD2 is that it is part of the inherent spirit of the original purpose of organizing XDA-Developers in the first place. XDA of course was a brand name used by 02 on the first phones they sold that were manufactured by a relatively young Taiwanese company that had changed its name of Hi Tech Computers to HTC. The original XDA-DEvelopers guys were mostly engineers and were determined to unlock more features of these PDAs, as well as making these PDAs do more than what they were first intended to do. The XDA-Developers guys knew that the more people involved, the more knowledge could be gained and shared.
I still have an old O2 XDA II that is happily running Windows Mobile 6.5.3. It originally came with Windows Mobile 2003, Chinese version. XDA-Developers has allowed this old PDA to have a really extended life.
XDA-Developers has really changed over the years as membership grew. Much civility of the older members is being drowned out by new members, to the point where a noob of a few months calls others noobs and cannot offer any other information than to search.
I enjoy seeing any news on the development of Windows Phone 7 on the HD2; it is similar to when our PDAs running on 2003 could migrate to 2005, and then 6.x
I also appreciate the fact that our friends in China are participating more now. Some of the younger guys there now are really highly trained specialists in areas that pertain to smart phones. And, I appreciate the fact that some of these guys in China are making an effort to keep us updated on any progress that is made there.
I think we should all also remember that for some Chinese it is a daunting challenge to navigate a complex site like XDA-Developers, and that it is not always easy for them to communicate what they really want to when they have to translate from Chinese to English. It is much more difficult to do this than, say, translate a European language into English.
So, hopefully, allowances should be made, and we should all welcome the participation of our Chinese friends. Now, I wish HTC would go back to making truly global phones, rather than regional phones, LOL
Thank you for your understanding.
Thank you for the info, but i can't find the link to the video ^^
Plenty of intelligent comments there. Hey I wouldn't be reading the thread if I wasn't interested in the news.
On the subject of spirit of XDA though - until there's openess and sharing then they're not complying to what this place stands for. Right now its just building publicity and we're all wondering for what gain for them.
DJW6927 said:
Plenty of intelligent comments there. Hey I wouldn't be reading the thread if I wasn't interested in the news.
On the subject of spirit of XDA though - until there's openess and sharing then they're not complying to what this place stands for. Right now its just building publicity and we're all wondering for what gain for them.
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My own personal opinion is that there has been no sharing of the ROM demoed in the videos is that what we saw was actually an earlier test of Windows Phone 7 on the HD2. I am sure you know that the HD2 was used as a testbed for the earlier development of Windows Phone 7. Others have commented on certain elements in the video that appear to be similar to earlier testing ROMs.
So, I guess, in the end, those in China who are in possession of the HD2 running WP7 are not much closer to developing a flashable ROM than others. In short, I think there is no ROM yet to be shared.
I think we also need to distinguish those who filmed the video (who may well be doing it for financial gain) from our Chinese friends who have signed up as members of XDA-Developers. Clearly, there is a major difference between these two groups of people.
Of course, all the above is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
You got a good point.
True, patient is a virtue. Please get yourself a seat and wait! Hope that gooooood news pop out soon!
This is an english only forum, please start writing in english before a mod comes here and erases your posts.
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I think we should refrain from making posts in languages other than English as the rules of the forum are that it is an English forum. XDA-Developers moderators tend to get upset when they see other languages!
Other than that, no way will I get involved in flag disputes, but I do love those old Japanese style bath houses in Beitou, just north of Taipei. Really a relaxing experience after debating on XDA-Developers hours on end.
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Hi tell you. My hate japan
Ok, i just talking with my fellow countryman in personal question. Still, it was my fault.
be patient and wait
yah im still happy with my hd2 running android 2.2
btw哥们你跑来这儿发群嘲贴太牛逼了哇
woion0415 said:
Ok, i just talking with my fellow countryman in personal question. Still, it was my fault.
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Preface: The continuity of posts leading to the following mini-essay were rightly deleted by the mods, as those posts contained languages other than English. However, I feel the main points of this mini-essay remain valid. I am not trying to create conflict, but remind others what XDA-Developer is all about: inclusiveness instead of exclusiveness, and technology, not nationality.
Although, due to historical and geographical reasons, I am much more familiar with Traditional Chinese characters, rather than Simplified Chinese characters, I was able to follow the gist of the conversation. Even though the conversation was mostly in jest, it still was somewhat unsettling to me.
Just as I will stand up for you guys in China, so I will do for the Japanese. If you check all the different forums on XDA-Developers you will find many Japanese who have made exceptional contributions to the site and its members. XDA-Developers is really a global tech site, which should remain inclusive rather than exclusive. So, when we log in, I think we should drop our nationalistic preconceptions at the door and get down to the work of concentrating on our devices supported by XDA-Developers. What do you think about that?
In the past I have chastised those who use cheap nationalist jokes against others from another country, and I will do that again. You know that to be a truth, as you have read some of those posts.
I know some of you guys from China have had a bit of a tough time breaking into the social community of XDA-Developers, so I hope you guys don't dish out to others what you suffered when you first joined this site.
Well, that is said and done, and soon to be forgotten.
And, I can climb down from my soapbox again. I think I need a vacation from climbing up and down from that soapbox. It is really tiring me out!
PS. A couple things to always remember, always post in English, don't assume "others" aren't comprehending what you type in your native language, and park nationalist prejudices at the door so that you can truly enjoy what XDA-Developers has to offer without causing conflicts.
Hi all.
First, biggest respect and thanks to everyone for spending their time and putting their input in this source of information. I know, that my question can make some people irritated and trigger some flame and negative response. I have read silly questions like “which rom is the best” and smth and understand this... I have gone through number of threads and hundreds of posts, searched but did not find answer in questions concerning me and maybe some other people. I’m using my phone not just for fun but for business as well, so I have no time to do it and keep it as testing platform... I’m sorry for this, and I think I could help developers with donation instead of testing various roms and posting of mine experience here. So, I’m just asking for useful advice, pisstakers and people having nothing good too say, thanks but maybe u could just not flood up this thread. Ok, let’s go...
Can you tell me your opinion about the NAND rom which would suit these needs best. I'm searching for ROM with the best productivity and stability. Saying productivity I mean flawless synchronization with MS outlook contacts and calendar (necessary) and preferably tasks as well at first... And stability and battery drain, also as many features as possible working as bluetooth, tethering, email, etc, etc..
As we know synchronization with MS outlook is weakest side of android yet, although some handset manufacturers making their software to resolve this issue. This is seems not most important thing for most people here, because after searching it looks there is something like white spot on the map about his.
I have my Dell Streak on android froyio 2.2 as my first android learning thing, before I was winmo user... I really like android as better and more perspective OS comparing with dying winmo, so I would like to make my HD2 android which is my business phone more... When I reflashed Dell Streak with froyio 2.2 I lost sync ability with outlook. With help of this forum I installed Deja Office which resolved sync problems.
And now, having read many posts I think I would like to go for gingerbread version, but there is nothing mentioned about synch with ms outlook even there is said that USB SD card mounting-unmounting is not working properly... Deja Office works this way by mounting-unmounting SD volume during synch, so it may not work with gingerbread...Should I go for another one rom? Which one? btw HTC HD 2 with 512 MB (non T-Mobile)
I don’t know, give me some info please and then I will help with donation to developer which rom I will find best for me. Sorry again for trying to get it ready from you instead of testing myself every rom here, but as I said, everybody can make it’s own different input in this board.
Thanks
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I agree, but no need to call anyone a retard.
In hopes to add something to this thread other than uselessness, if your looking for something simple and great on battery life then give tytungs gingerbread ROM a shot. Most Sense ROM's are not the best on battery but they aren't terrible on battery either. Anyways, good luck on finding the ROM for you.
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Thank you very much motoman. This is the first at least more positive and constructive response... But mine biggest issue is the best synchronising with MS outlook. And I posted this jjust because after reading lots of posts and threads I find almost no information about this.
Kailkti said:
So to get the best results one should break rules. >.>
You sir have a great mentality. I should follow your example and go rob a bank so I can get millions of dollars.
Jokes aside.
Try a sense rom, I find they have all your professional needs built in.
Tethering will not work on any android build, for all of them you have to download a separate app for it to work.
I don't see why a gingerbread build. What siginificant advantages does it have over Froyo?
Since you have a 512 HD2, get a squashed sense rom.
Also, dude please don't under rate our devs by implying they are simply people here to make a profit. They're not gold diggers, atleast in my opinion.
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Thank you Kailkti, I will try this one.
Try a windows phone 7 ROM , best stability and batterylife for me! and shouldn't be a problem to sync ofc but haven't personally tried it
unreal973 said:
Try a windows phone 7 ROM , best stability and batterylife for me! and shouldn't be a problem to sync ofc but haven't personally tried it
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I will consider this, thanks. Although I really like android freedom in apps and in generally after trying it, but if it won't get what I need out from this why not...
Next person to use the word "retard" will receive a nice ban....if you have nothing helpful to say, then don't post anything.
the_scotsman said:
Next person to use the word "retard" will receive a nice ban....if you have nothing helpful to say, then don't post anything.
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Yes calling someone that isn't very nice.
Edit: Hope Q&A helps you. I couldn't really tell you any one rom for ms outlook cause I don't use it but like motoman said tytungs rom might help. I think cmylxgo has great battery life Imho.
Edit 2: hyperdroidgbx might be another good rom for you to try out.