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best rom, radio, android combination

is there a good combination that boots android everytime and doesnt die at any point?
using wonmo rom 1.66.405.2
radio 2.11.50.20
and froyostone 3.2
unfortunatly android only boots about 1 time out of 10, why tho?
sometimes boot, sometimes blue screen, sometimes black screen with green htc sometimes resets?
anyone else having this problem but once it boots it works great apart from sometimes dying sod or freeze when i plug in the charger.

i'm using
windows rom: 1.66.404.1
radio: 2.12.50.02_2
my androids boots always.. but there are a few connection drops but it's ok

Mine using Omega WWE v16?? forgotten, radio 2.15.50.xxxx, and Madeejay eVo v1.7, always work except sometimes crash com.android.phone while the system still runs. Just download v2.2 yesterday and while waiting the startup, found v2.3 is out!
Anywa, the v2.2 starts andnow going to check it up.

Check my sig. This combo has NEVER failed on me...
also read this
You have to deal with the lack of Camera in DesireHD ROM though...For Now!
Murg

cheers i'll try that. didnt really wanna start changing my windows rom as well but looks like im gonna have to give it a go as i've tried just about all the radios and numerous android bulids takes about 10 attempts to start up. then if it freezes gotta go through it all again
heard the chunky rom works well with it?
is there any onther settings in windows or android that that need to be on or off for it to work better?

Check my sig - this is a very stable build, I have no issues other than occasionally flaky mobile data connection!
I have found that a fuller WinMo ROM works better for android - I had trouble with some of the "stripped out for Android" ROMs available. Artemis is a high performance ROM with all features, if anyone knows of a more bleading edge ROM I would like to know!

Been using my combo since the beginning. OzDroid has been nothin but excellent. Hyperdroid is, in my opinion, the best build out there.
No problems whatsoever.
Data is strong. Bluetooth is working. This is my everyday setup. Only time I see WinMo is when I update files or whatnot.

murgers said:
Check my sig. This combo has NEVER failed on me...
also read this
You have to deal with the lack of Camera in DesireHD ROM though...For Now!
Murg
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On the energy rom and does seem better but still not get a boot everytime. ive tried mdeejay hd and i like it but still not booting up everytime and had a few sod when charging.
hyperdroid has seemed to be the most consistent for me but is there a desire sense version or theme for it or something?

check my sig, so far so good

my setup works flawlessly.
my first try tho i thought it locked up on initial setup, so i pulled the batt. when i rebooted i ran logcat to see what whas happening, turns out i pulled batt while it was setting audio , i wiped my sdcard and started over.
this time i waited a few min for it to set up the kernel etc, once that was done i conected thru adb and watched the logcat for errors etc. once it calmed down ( about 20 min) then i proceded to log in, set up my google account. once that calmed down i rebooted, loged into the market and lodded my apps etc.... all good.

VBN reloaded 2 minimal winmo.
MDEEJAY rEVOlution 2.0
Radio 2.0.12
Consistent 7mA idle.
Battery lasts whole day normal use (5 phone calls, 30 sms, auto email sync on 4 accts. - about 150 emails..30 mins internet) . No freeze, no SOD. Kow
Z
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Exactly how do you find out what version of ROM, Radio etc. are on your phone?

still suffering some SOD what tips are there to minmise this? like i head taking off auto lock or something in windows helps? and some other screen settings?

another side note, if it fails to load intermitently, im going to bet that the data on the sdcard is corupt. copy the files off it, format it, then copy back on.
if that does not work, format it wiping every thing and start from scratch.

Best combo
I think if you use the latest tmobile us build 3 14 501 with radio 2 15 50 04, these are my results for two days
the froyo builds with nexus kernel fail miserably,lot of things go haywire or work slowly, wifi slow ,camera flash gets stuck,sods with brightness,apps work slowly,consume battery more
but with the above wm 6 rom with the same radio htc sense builds like
mdeejay rock and they are fast as lightning,everything works smooth
with the above wm6rom build and radio ,on both build types(froyo and evo) there is no robo voice
this i tried even after i flashed the new stock rom it didnot disable my hspl 3 which i had installed earlier.htc sense build worked with it fine.
However i was slightly scared about the new t mobile rom with regard to nexus kernels and i reverted back to energy leo oct 25 build with radio 2 10 50 26 which is awesome.i reinstalled mdeejay evo stock rom which is awesome fast and blazing with some minimal echo still, it works better with the energy rom and radio 2 10 50 26 this is my daily android phone build i use.

My current build test
Currently as i stated above my build is mdeejay evo stock 1.1 with r8 hastarin kernel , energy rom oct 25 and radio 2 10 50 26
for all users i recommend using us hd2 rom builds as there is something different between the two hd2 makes us and non us
as i flashed a non us build 3 14 core wm 6 rom and it did bad things to my android froyo hd 3, mdeejay buildss, so i reverted back to energy roms and now with radio 2 10 50 26 its my daily build with excellent working status (battery at the end of day with no wifi or data is 85%)
i have another micro sd card it has miui build from mcm joon mccm se 3 with hastrarin r 8 kernel which is working awesome with my build but the battery consumption is too much about 4%/hr, i dont know why the nexus based builds consume so much battery. I will work on it this weekend
my defaut micro sd card is 16 gb i got with hd2 it has the mdeejay build ,miui build is on the kingston 8 gb class 4 card.

Micro sd card
I dont know the conclusion of this test results i have
my wm6 rom is energy rom and radio 2 10 50 26, micro sd card is default 16 gb sandisk class 2 card
froyostone v 3.2 was slow on it, while the mdeejay evo stock version 1.1 is blazing fast ,there is something mdeejay does with the animations sometimes they annoy you but are so blazing fast with minimal battery consumption.
This weekend i am getting my class6 16 gb sandisk card and i am going to try all the builds on it along with various radios and wm6 roms. Will post the result as soon as possible.
My question is there is something called swap( disk space) used in linux distros where they use it as a part of their ram space so they keep all the applications in it for faster work . Is there any way we can use it in android so that the apps run faster with minimal battery consumption.
For all us hd 2 users please use radio with 50 in it.

My simulation of froyostone build
I simulated what darkstone did to his hd2 with the same wm6 rom and the same radio and the same android build , but the only difference was my us hd 2 , it failed miserably with wifi slow,flash got stuck and apps were damn slow and sods,ultimately it became unusable and i had to switch to mdeejay build . Thats why i always feel there is something diffrerent in both hd2 models as well as there is some difference in the wm6 rom builds for each of them.
I am still waiting for darkstones new build with sense as it will be always with better stability.

chrisman99 said:
still suffering some SOD what tips are there to minmise this? like i head taking off auto lock or something in windows helps? and some other screen settings?
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Was facing the SOD once a day till installed WM ChuckyDroidROM (this is IMPORTANT) + 2.12.50 Radio + android ROM of your choice (IMHO mdeejay does it properly
I forgot about these black screens completely

Installing Android = Pain in the A**
for more than a month trying to install android flashing, hard reseting, restoring
i am really tired i even forgot why i wanna use android any way.
my current software information is:
OS version 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
manila version 2.5.19211619.0
rom version 1.66.415.9 (76641) WWE
radio version 2.15.50.14
protocol version 15.42.50.11U
HSPL 3
can any body tell me which of the above needs changing and which android version should i use?
my current android version is froyostone and mp3 not working and incoming and outgoing calls robot sound i cant hear any thing
thanks

[Q] So what is currently the most stable setup for android on HD2?

So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?

I would also like to know which is the most stable Android build to-date (i am not bothered with the HTC Sense layar).

I agree ^^
Right now I'm using mdeejays evo sense 2.3 revolution and upgraded the kernel with Hastarin R8 and it is very stable!!
Its gonna depend on many factors such as what WM rom you're running and what radio as well. I would recommend you get chuckdroid WM rom, a good recent radio, and either evo sense 2.3 or Bangsters 1.5 (if you dont want sense) Ive had good results with both.

Latest Energy WinMo ROM, 2.12 radio, the Android build linked below.
Works fantastic, all day, every day. CM6 mod. MDPI/HDPI hybrid too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769026

MichaelVS said:
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
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I like my setup (in my sig). There's a new skinnyEVO v1.5, and since I haven't tried it, I can't speak of its stability.
The issue you'll encounter in most Android builds is data dropping, which is caused by using PPP (not RMNET) connection. This can be 'fixed' by turning on/off airplane mode.

+1 for Mdeejay builds
just loaded Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 1.1 Matted this morning, so far v smooth, battery 5mA in standby, camera with flash working, no probs so far.
deff' the best of the 3 android builds ive tried
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797357

For the one who said that it depends on many factors, here is my current specifications;
OS-Version
5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila-Version
2.5.19211619.0
ROM-Version
1.66.409.1 (76641) NOR
ROM-Date
01/12/10
Radioversion
2.12.50.02_2
Protokollversion:
15.40.50.07U
What kind of setup would be best for my specs?

sumflipnol said:
I like my setup (in my sig). There's a new skinnyEVO v1.5, and since I haven't tried it, I can't speak of its stability.
The issue you'll encounter in most Android builds is data dropping, which is caused by using PPP (not RMNET) connection. This can be 'fixed' by turning on/off airplane mode.
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I'm on O2 in the UK. Using the latest Sense version of the PhireMOD Skinny EVO (v1.5) with 2.15 radio and the latest Chucky ROM 23139 ~ 3.14. Rock solid stability and very smooth and fast. I get an occasional data drop but that's the same with every PPP build. Battery life with light usage is approx 2 days.
Just upgraded to V8 kernal and it's smoother than ever. Best andriod build i've used - apart from the data drops (which is not the fault of the build) it's pretty much perfect for me. The key is to get the right combination of radio/wmrom/andriod. Unfortunately it seems to be different for different people so just a case of trial and error until you find the right combo. In my case the switch to 2.15 radio solved a lot of issues.

energy and skinnyEVO v1.5 with latest kernell update is the best setup you can get.... after a long search i foud this one to be the best..... oh radio 2.12.50.xxxx great battery life..... >

energy rom and mdeej's Revolution is by far the best sense build to date and there is a new radio for those of you that dont know yet 2.15

There is no guaranteed catch all perfect setup. what may run perfectly fine for me may run absolutely horrible for you. Different strokes for different folks.
Factors you have to consider:
SD Card (class, size, whether is SDHC or not, how it is formatted, cluster size)
Battery calibration (does your battery last a long time in WinMo?)
Your own knowledge (if you cannot be bothered to search for any simple problems then you WILL get frustrated trying to run Android)
the best way you can find out the best setup for you is trial and error.

dazzyb2k3 said:
I'm on O2 in the UK. Using the latest Sense version of the PhireMOD Skinny EVO (v1.5) with 2.15 radio and the latest Chucky ROM 23139 ~ 3.14. Rock solid stability and very smooth and fast. I get an occasional data drop but that's the same with every PPP build. Battery life with light usage is approx 2 days.
Just upgraded to V8 kernal and it's smoother than ever. Best andriod build i've used - apart from the data drops (which is not the fault of the build) it's pretty much perfect for me. The key is to get the right combination of radio/wmrom/andriod. Unfortunately it seems to be different for different people so just a case of trial and error until you find the right combo. In my case the switch to 2.15 radio solved a lot of issues.
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Sorry for the noob question, but can somebody describe data dropping to me?
I got a HD2 from work on the weekend, so the first thing I did was install android
I installed: Radio_2_14_50_04, and FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2. This combo is working fine and seems stable.
The problem I had yesterday was that I could not access the internet although I had a strong 3g or H signal. The problem would suddenly disappear and access would be fine for a few minutes and then no access again. Access seems more consistant today.
Battery life seems a problem too, it was fully charged at 7am this morning and was down to 5% by 5pm, that was with mild usage apart from about an hour mp3 and 30 min gps.
Any of this sound normal for android on a HD2?

MichaelVS said:
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
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MichaelVS said:
[Q] So what is currently the most stable setup for android on HD2?
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is the one you really like, the one that appeals to your needs and whims the most
so try them builds around and share your ideas and experience with each of them

tonyh0905 said:
Sorry for the noob question, but can somebody describe data dropping to me?
I got a HD2 from work on the weekend, so the first thing I did was install android
I installed: Radio_2_14_50_04, and FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2. This combo is working fine and seems stable.
The problem I had yesterday was that I could not access the internet although I had a strong 3g or H signal. The problem would suddenly disappear and access would be fine for a few minutes and then no access again. Access seems more consistant today.
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there is a VERY BIG discussion on a lot of threads about data drops, search for them. that is one nagging PITA at the moment for Android. switching airplane
mode on and off always worked for me though, also need to have the correct
APN setting for your network
tonyh0905 said:
Battery life seems a problem too, it was fully charged at 7am this morning and was down to 5% by 5pm, that was with mild usage apart from about an hour mp3 and 30 min gps.
Any of this sound normal for android on a HD2?
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reboot Android at least three times and the battery usage will improve drastically
my juice lasts a full day of moderate to heavy usage.

jigners said:
there is a VERY BIG discussion on a lot of threads about data drops, search for them. that is one nagging PITA at the moment for Android. switching airplane
mode on and off always worked for me though, also need to have the correct
APN setting for your network
reboot Android at least three times and the battery usage will improve drastically
my juice lasts a full day of moderate to heavy usage.
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Thanks for the info...the airplane mode trick worked a treat
When you say reboot android 3 times, do you mean reset the whole device, or is there a way to shut down and restart the android os?
Cheers
Tony

I use:
VBN reloaded 2 minimal ROM
mdeejay revolution 2.0
radio 2.12.50.
One time deals:
i) turn off auto backlight in winmo
ii) do a g-sensor calib in winmo
Make sure you :
i) Load android using EBL *as soon as you possibly can*
ii) press the back button when its loading HaRET
and you are all set !!!
z

[Q] best WM build for android

ive been playing around with android a lot recently, but i seem to be getting the same or similar errors with every build. i think the problem comes down to an unformatted memory card. i want to start with a fresh phone and memroy card.
my question is which WM build is best for android? i would be using android as my main os but windows mobile would serve as a'backup' os incase android dies on me. i already have a build of android i want to use so just need some advice on which WM build to use. once i have done that i can format the memory card and re-install android.
not sure if it matters, but i would be using a boot loader to get into android. i have radio 2.15.

matthewharmon102 said:
ive been playing around with android a lot recently, but i seem to be getting the same or similar errors with every build. i think the problem comes down to an unformatted memory card. i want to start with a fresh phone and memroy card.
my question is which WM build is best for android? i would be using android as my main os but windows mobile would serve as a'backup' os incase android dies on me. i already have a build of android i want to use so just need some advice on which WM build to use. once i have done that i can format the memory card and re-install android.
not sure if it matters, but i would be using a boot loader to get into android. i have radio 2.15.
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I'll try to answer the question by sharing my own experience:
I have T-Mobile US HD2 model and tried several builds under "stock" ROM and Radio 2.08 and most of them worked with really bad battery life. Anyhow, I finally decided to move on with installing Hard SPL 2.08 so I can flash custom ROMs into my device. After that following happened:
1. I tried ChuckyDroid ROM lite - barely occupied any space after boot in WinMo - but did not affect Android and how it worked AT ALL! I had shubcraft 2.0 at the moment;
2. Finally after all the chasing I wanted to have fully functional WinMo Rom and fully functional Android build and here is my setup:
Energy 2.5 GTX WinMo ROM based on 3.14 latest TMOUS Update (with the start button on the top);
Android HyperDroid 1.7 with mychprima's kernel (240 lcd density);
Radio is 2.15.50.xx
Re-formatted 16GB stock SD Card I got with my HD2
Results:
Super-smooth Android operation at all times;
Without SetCPU installed (since kernel is already OCd and UVd) my battery life has been AWESOME! I get constant 3-6mA battery stand-by and that alone gives me really good battery life. I am getting one day and few hours after 1.5hr re-charging - that I did not beat with anything I tried on my hd2 before this setup. I have reseted phone last time several weeks ago and not a single force close message so far (to knock on wood hihi) ... No reason to lie - but if you have some time it may be good combo to try our. BTW I do not offer any guarantees on what you do with your phone lol - that's my "fine print" lol

eenbox said:
I'll try to answer the question by sharing my own experience:
I have T-Mobile US HD2 model and tried several builds under "stock" ROM and Radio 2.08 and most of them worked with really bad battery life. Anyhow, I finally decided to move on with installing Hard SPL 2.08 so I can flash custom ROMs into my device. After that following happened:
1. I tried ChuckyDroid ROM lite - barely occupied any space after boot in WinMo - but did not affect Android and how it worked AT ALL! I had shubcraft 2.0 at the moment;
2. Finally after all the chasing I wanted to have fully functional WinMo Rom and fully functional Android build and here is my setup:
Energy 2.5 GTX WinMo ROM based on 3.14 latest TMOUS Update (with the start button on the top);
Android HyperDroid 1.7 with mychprima's kernel (240 lcd density);
Radio is 2.15.50.xx
Re-formatted 16GB stock SD Card I got with my HD2
Results:
Super-smooth Android operation at all times;
Without SetCPU installed (since kernel is already OCd and UVd) my battery life has been AWESOME! I get constant 3-6mA battery stand-by and that alone gives me really good battery life. I am getting one day and few hours after 1.5hr re-charging - that I did not beat with anything I tried on my hd2 before this setup. I have reseted phone last time several weeks ago and not a single force close message so far (to knock on wood hihi) ... No reason to lie - but if you have some time it may be good combo to try our. BTW I do not offer any guarantees on what you do with your phone lol - that's my "fine print" lol
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thanks for that, Energy ROMs seem to come up a lot, and as development for my current WM build (CleanEx DSE 6.1) seems to have stopped, il give that a go. im currently getting a lot of force close messages revolving around the sync features. also my HTC calender doesnt work and contact images do not display (I assume because it cant sync them from facebook). im currently using MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.7 as my android build, but il try your setup. battery life has become a bit of an issue for me, but i am a 'heavy' user.
is it better to format the memory card through WM or through the PC? and should i be setting any options or just leave them at default values?

matthewharmon102 said:
thanks for that, Energy ROMs seem to come up a lot, and as development for my current WM build (CleanEx DSE 6.1) seems to have stopped, il give that a go. im currently getting a lot of force close messages revolving around the sync features. also my HTC calender doesnt work and contact images do not display (I assume because it cant sync them from facebook). im currently using MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.7 as my android build, but il try your setup. battery life has become a bit of an issue for me, but i am a 'heavy' user.
is it better to format the memory card through WM or through the PC? and should i be setting any options or just leave them at default values?
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What I did was reformatting under multimedia card reader - I do not think it matters but that's what I did.
I did find some registry tweaks that manages sd card power a while ago and tried them under stock rom and radio - it did not work but I never bothered to go back since my battery is not really getting drained - lasts enough for me.
I only installed BSB Tweaks and disabled EVERYTHING and left only power-saving ON. I have no clue whether this helps at all or not but just did it as a preventive measure ... also, make sure auto-lock is DISABLED under Windows. That was one of the old issues to get un-wake-able screens ... however, so far I have not really had any problems.
Keep in mind: if you want to install many apps that you would like to test - do not do it in massive installations one after another. Some apps are known to screw up battery life and stand-by mAs. Therefore, install couple at the time - after reboot if you get low mA - then app is not draining the battery.
So far I have experienced Extended power widget to drain the battery a lot and also any type of news browsers like e-buzz, pulse, etc - they seem to constantly pull data and remain active. However, they may work for you if you have data disabled for the most part (which is probably not the case) - forgot to mention mine is on 3/3.5G at all times.
- Background Data is checked (ON);
- Auto Sync is unchecked (OFF);
- Brightness disabled under very strong light (110 lumens of my flashlight hihihi) and set on 35-40% I think - somewhere around there.
- I have three home-screens and do not feel I need more
- Weather widget, current widget and google search widget - I do not have any clocks for simple reason - when the phone is locked I can easily see the time by clicking the hardware buttons - so what's the point of the background one ...
If I remember any other tips and tricks I'll let you know.

[Q] Most stable NAND build?

I tried the initial NAND build upon release but had to go back to Winmo for the following reasons;
Higher battery drain than Duttys Family Rom
Led stuck on all the time after a message
No screen rotation
Crashing playing .wma files
Contacts listed by first name, no way to change it without editing it all.
Random freezes, slow to respond after standby, low volume in calls even after trying the speaker fix, g sensor would not calibrate.
All in all, enough to put me off. However, having gone back to winmo I can see that android is the way I want to go.
So, simple question; which build, if any, has the most of these issues fixed particularly battery drain and rotation? I am not bothered about getting 'under the hood' to tweak everything just a nice clean stable ROM with no fancy UI tweaks.
And I have searched on this for days but there are many, many opinions in hundreds of pages of comments. Thought I would ask here for the benefit of anyone else looking for a nice clean android build.

I have only tried the CM build (call me a fanboy), and it's really stable. I have noticed the 60mA battery drain still happens at times, but using Quick Reboot (free on market) one or sometimes multiple times fixes this without too much effort.
Speed, stability and features (well, the ones I use, didn't do a thorough test on everything) are all good.

I will no doubt slap my forehead for this but what is the CM build?
Has any build so far fixed the battery drain and sensor properly?

Cynagen mod =cm
I'm using MDJ's gingerbread its very stable and plenty of free space but no gps usb or camcorder apart from that smoorhest Android build I've ever used and one used most

i suggest NexusHD 1.9 NAND version, it's very stable, smooth and fast and i have no problem with it. just works well ;-)

Are these suggestions based just on personal preference or do they address those issues I had in the first post i.e battery drain, lack of rotation (G-Sensor problem I guess), LED stuck etc?
Appreciate your input all the same but I feel like reflashing Android today and want the best ROM...if those issues are fixed.

CM based or Nexus1. I think that until they are optimized, Sense are a no-go for Nand : too heavy, too big. You will be left with 50-40mo for apps and that includes apps2sd. Count on the double with CM and N1 Nand's. And in terms of battery life, G-sensor, they work perfectly.
The Led seems to give problem to most of the Nand for the moment...

Downloading the Nexus 1 rom now, I can live with the led if sensor and battery are better, especially as it is so easy to get back to winmo if needed.

I Know Ill Slap Myself Too For Asking Nooby Questions...but
Does it Matter What Radio i Use To Flash nand android as long as its above 2.08.whatever number ....i forgot....will it still work

I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.

splinters69 said:
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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Sync contacts with gmail then it stores them in the clouds

Try HD2ONE froyo cm 6.1.1 nand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It supports using your existing cm6 data.img on sd card. This alleviates the issue of low device storage.
This was rock solid as an sd build and better on nand.
I'll be sticking with this until gingerbread has all features working.

[A] What REALLY improves Android battery life on the HD2

Thought I'd just share this. I had been stuck with this issue for a while; basically needing to fully recharge twice a day. I tried a lot of things recommended on here and elsewhere; all of them either made minor differences, none at all, and some made things worse. Things in that category are wifi, 3g, bluetooth, gps, setcpu, task-killers, screen-dimming, resetting battery stats, starting Haret with the key lights on, etc. All these things can potentially make a difference, but didn't help much. Plus, most of them involve de-smart-ing a smartphone, and what's the point of that? I tried changing SD card, as I have a 16GB Transend class 6 card which I believe draws a few more mW than e.g. Sandisk cards, and that didn't really help either.
As an indicative measure, I could charge to 100% (and green LED) at 11pm, put the phone into Airplane mode (GPS off as well), kill all tasks that are not needed, go to bed, and by 7am the battery was on around 50%. So that's with NO comms, NO screen, nothing. Android battery use showed most of this usage was the screen. Er, no. I installed CurrentWidgit (from App Market) and got it to log; during this overnight lack of activity it averaged around 65mW, and was never below 60mW.
So after all that rambling, the answer is: radio ROM version. When I installed Android, I installed the latest radio ROM available at the time (still the latest I think); i.e. 2.15.50.14, from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787. After pulling my hair out trying all the above, I flashed the radio ROM with 2.12.50.02_2, and as if by magic, current draw under similar conditions to above is about 7mW; i.e. 10% of what it was, and an overnight period as above goes from 100% to 96%. Much better
I should point out a few extra things:
a) I arbitrarily chose that radio version. I don't really have time to try them all, so if anyone cares to test and post here, perhaps another version gets even better results. To make them meaningfully comparable, install CurrentWidget, get it to log every minute, put the phone into airplane mode, GPS off, kill any obvious large apps like Maps, camera, email polling, and don't run any "battery-saver"-category apps (I had just Messaging, Google Services and Android Keyboard under Settings > Applications > Running Services), turn the screen off for a few minutes (don't move the phone either), then turn it back on and look at the CurrentWidget log. If you post your results here, include which network you're on.
b) This "secret" is sort-of hidden in a few other threads about this, but only in passing and not really prominent. I thought it deserved its own thread so people can find it a little quicker.
c) I don't know if there are other dependencies at play here; e.g. perhaps 2.12.50.2_2 is best with O2 (which is who I'm with), and maybe others are better with other networks. I don't know enough about radio ROMs to know. If people post their results with their network we might figure it out.
d) Changing radio seemed to also cure another problem I was having, namely the data connection on both 2G and 3G regularly disappearing, even though I had a 2G/3G signal. (I used to fix this by switching between 2 virtually identical APNs, while cursing and muttering...)
e) I'm using AmericAndroid GB233 CyanogenMod7 on SD.

Very usefull info indeed! i use the latest radio too and i face the same battery issues. I've tried all kind of stuff (task killers etc) but with no luck, mb i"ll try a couple of radio vers. hope yours doesn't carry any robo voice incidents (I use the CoreDroid v0.8 one)

Stop using SD, flash android directly to your nand, my battery according to Battery Diviner, lasts 25hrs with a full charge not on airplane mode. I used to do SD but I got tired of the slowness and huge battery drain, NAND is the way to go.

I am thinking of going NAND now, but it wasn't really an option while I might have needed to go back to WM just to make it through a single day without access to a charger. What radio version are you using?

But if radio version is the key, i see no point why we should abandon the sd option & move to the nand one. And the 25h -no charge- nand duration isn't such a big deal, is it ?

I have to version 2.15 and I am on nand.... my battery drain is around 3-5ma standby.... which I think is pretty good.... so I think nand is the key..... not radio
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

It would be interesting if you now flashed to 2.15 again and record your consumption, you might find the early high consumption is not repeated, your original radio may have been very slighty corrupt? I'm using AmericAndroid on SD and get 3mA drain in standby with radio 2.15.50.14, battery widget predicts 12hrs use with 3g phone on and fairly frequent use or 4 days in standby (doubt I'll ever test that one but the 12hrs is about right).
My only temptation to go for NAND is speed, SD is very slow unless using a RAM build and there are too few of those. Can't quite leave WinMo just yet so sticking with RAM on SD.

Yea... even I'm curious... flash back to 2.15 and let us know your results..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I have also the 2.12 radio since january with different NAND roms (mostly sense) and had always 3-5mA in standby. WIFI and 3G off, GPS On/Off makes no difference. Had never the robot voice problems at the first call and no other problems that 2.15 users not have.
There was already a thread where some android nand users confirm the better battery life of 2.12, but not such a big difference like in your case.
Have found a similar thread of WP7 users with the same results.

Any sd android users around with positive battery results? my battery gets raped in almost 15h with normal use! And yeah my stock winmo 6.5 rom does pretty well, while my Leo stays alive & kickin for about 4 days. And just to get a bit off topic, neither Froyo/Gingerbread got me crazy as an OS, nor the "old ship" winmo 6.5 can keep anyone excited anymore. I hope Honeycomb port will be developed in a stable well working level for our Leos.

I think part of the issue here is different peoples' expectations are different. If you are already getting say 12-24+ hours with ANY type of usage, you are probably in a different category to the one I was addressing. The issue I was addressing in my OP is getting extremely poor battery life, of the order of perhaps 6-8 hours with light usage. Several people seem to experience this; i.e. charging required 2 or 3 times a day.
The WM thread mentioned a few posts back is interesting, as there seems to be a clear trend of 2.12 giving better battery life over 2.15 (some anomalies though - be nice if someone who really knows these things intimately could suggest what the dependencies might be).
When I have some time I'll try flashing a few different radios and measuring in an at-least semi-scientific manner. When I have a little more time I'll try NAND with different radios as well. (Anyone with time feel free to go ahead and post results in the meanwhile though!)

nand that killed battery life
I have been using nand roms for a few months now, ever since mdeejay blessed us with his gingerbread builds.
presently using ginger-honeycomb theme rom.
Battery has to be charged twice a day with minimal usage. 2 hours of kindle/music is enough to fry the battery. radio is 2.15.
the rom is superb in appearance and functionality but battery is a real eyesore.
suggestions appreciated.

@fx.dcny: have you tried 2.12 radio as I suggest in my OP?

Hi All,
I'm using Radio 2.15.50.14 and when I use WinMo (ROM Elegancia 2.0), my battery lasts longer than 24h, with a few phone calls and mails and sometimes use of GPS.
With Android on SD, I must charge my battery 2 or 3 times a day. Even in Airplane mode, drain is very high (losts 40-50% overnight). I'm currently with Rafdroid HD 4.2 SD build, but things are same with all other Android SD builds I've tried.
I've just installed current widget, and drain is 60 mA in standby, which seems very high ! and I frequently kill apps with Advanced Tasks Killer (apps like Maps, Soundhound that always reappear !) but maybe this Task Killer makes more bad that good...
As suggested by the OP (thanks for the tip!), I'll tried another radio when I have some time, I still have a backup of radio 2.10.50.28_2, and report to you...
Do someone know how to find the culprit app from Current Widget log? I just see a long list of running apps, but no clue about which one(s) is/are eating the battery.

@thivi: my experience was that the apps listed by CurrentWidget were not helpful (in this context), and like I say when I was getting ~50% battery loss in airplane mode overnight there were no unnecessary apps running, and Android was reporting the majority of the battery use as "Display". Something else must be happening under the radar of the various battery monitors (both native Android and not). I'm guessing (only guessing at this stage) that something in the radio ROM code causes it to draw more current.

Hi folks, this is a first post for me but battery use seems to be a never-ending holy grail to Android users!! I have a HD2 running HyperDroid CM7 V2.0 Fearless Falcon on NAND with radio 2.15.50.14. The phone is a branded TM UK handset and have to say that the biggest battery-eater I ever met was Google Maps. Once uninstalled (installed it on first setup), and with carefull widget management, I can just get 3 days between charges. I must point out though that I am not a heavy data user or anything, I just like to have a good functional handset that I know will do everything I need effortlesly. The HD2 is just the thing. Just as an edit, with Google maps being installed, even if force closed, I only ever got 6 to 8 hours from my battery.

I have found this out from master rom thread. Most of the build recommend 15 but i recommend 2.12.50.02_2 if you have battery drain issue on standby.
sellotape said:
Thought I'd just share this. I had been stuck with this issue for a while; basically needing to fully recharge twice a day. I tried a lot of things recommended on here and elsewhere; all of them either made minor differences, none at all, and some made things worse. Things in that category are wifi, 3g, bluetooth, gps, setcpu, task-killers, screen-dimming, resetting battery stats, starting Haret with the key lights on, etc. All these things can potentially make a difference, but didn't help much. Plus, most of them involve de-smart-ing a smartphone, and what's the point of that? I tried changing SD card, as I have a 16GB Transend class 6 card which I believe draws a few more mW than e.g. Sandisk cards, and that didn't really help either.
As an indicative measure, I could charge to 100% (and green LED) at 11pm, put the phone into Airplane mode (GPS off as well), kill all tasks that are not needed, go to bed, and by 7am the battery was on around 50%. So that's with NO comms, NO screen, nothing. Android battery use showed most of this usage was the screen. Er, no. I installed CurrentWidgit (from App Market) and got it to log; during this overnight lack of activity it averaged around 65mW, and was never below 60mW.
So after all that rambling, the answer is: radio ROM version. When I installed Android, I installed the latest radio ROM available at the time (still the latest I think); i.e. 2.15.50.14, from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787. After pulling my hair out trying all the above, I flashed the radio ROM with 2.12.50.02_2, and as if by magic, current draw under similar conditions to above is about 7mW; i.e. 10% of what it was, and an overnight period as above goes from 100% to 96%. Much better
I should point out a few extra things:
a) I arbitrarily chose that radio version. I don't really have time to try them all, so if anyone cares to test and post here, perhaps another version gets even better results. To make them meaningfully comparable, install CurrentWidget, get it to log every minute, put the phone into airplane mode, GPS off, kill any obvious large apps like Maps, camera, email polling, and don't run any "battery-saver"-category apps (I had just Messaging, Google Services and Android Keyboard under Settings > Applications > Running Services), turn the screen off for a few minutes (don't move the phone either), then turn it back on and look at the CurrentWidget log. If you post your results here, include which network you're on.
b) This "secret" is sort-of hidden in a few other threads about this, but only in passing and not really prominent. I thought it deserved its own thread so people can find it a little quicker.
c) I don't know if there are other dependencies at play here; e.g. perhaps 2.12.50.2_2 is best with O2 (which is who I'm with), and maybe others are better with other networks. I don't know enough about radio ROMs to know. If people post their results with their network we might figure it out.
d) Changing radio seemed to also cure another problem I was having, namely the data connection on both 2G and 3G regularly disappearing, even though I had a 2G/3G signal. (I used to fix this by switching between 2 virtually identical APNs, while cursing and muttering...)
e) I'm using AmericAndroid GB233 CyanogenMod7 on SD.
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sellotape, you're the boss !
now with radio 2.12.50.02_2 I have 4-7 mA drain in standby instead of 62-66 with radio 2.15.50.14... And last night I only lost 7% battery (and I was not in Airplane mode), it was 40-50% with radio 2.15.50.14 (and in Airplane mode !)
So this radio 2.15.50.14 seems to be the culprit for high battery drainage in Android, at least for some users...
I was happy with the RAFDROID HD 4.2 build but had 2 problems : 1.high battery drainage which is now solved thanks to sellotape thread, and 2.heavy lags that were caused by my SD-Card, problem detected thanks to this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048649
so now I'm enjoying a very fine Android experience with my HD2, even with a SD build
@GPZ550: it's true that Google Maps is almost always in memory, even after killing it. But I'm a heavy user of it so I don't want to desinstall it. And with radio 2.12.50.02_2 it seems that I can have a decent battery life even with google Maps installed.

I don't want to add confusion here, but my experience as in the OP came to an end about 2 days ago, for reasons I couldn't really associate with anything in particular, except *perhaps* an app update from the market. So... what I did is flashed 2.15 again (to at the same time answer boomboomer and fahd_freak's questions), and I am now back to <10mA standby (down from ~60). I suspect if I'd flashed 2.12 again it would also have fixed it, but I'm out of experimental options in that direction for now. This leaves me rather confused. I would have thought that apps (even under SU) would almost certainly not have sufficient access to alter the Radio ROM.
As a dev myself I struggle with the idea of the ROM becoming "a bit corrupt". I would have thought *any* corruption would have been fairly catastrophic. And yet, mysteriously, re-flashing the ROM seems to be an answer (for now). Perhaps there is some state data that the Radio ROM stores that gets corrupted or invalid and this is overwritten with a re-flash?
Personally I'm not too fussed if I have to reflash the ROM every month or so for now, ridiculous as I find it in principle. It does perhaps mean it's not just radio version that's at issue, but perhaps the action of flashing itself.

I managed to get 5mA draw in standby mode on the NexusHD2 for SD builds (3G on but GPS and Wifi off), with some spikes (when data is being pushed). Able to last a whole day with moderate usage. (Radio version in my sig.)
But really, the NAND builds are much better overall. I managed to get a very similar battery usage pattern as above with the latest NexusHD2 Gingerbread ROM V2.7, 3G, GPS and Wifi all on.