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is there a good combination that boots android everytime and doesnt die at any point?
using wonmo rom 1.66.405.2
radio 2.11.50.20
and froyostone 3.2
unfortunatly android only boots about 1 time out of 10, why tho?
sometimes boot, sometimes blue screen, sometimes black screen with green htc sometimes resets?
anyone else having this problem but once it boots it works great apart from sometimes dying sod or freeze when i plug in the charger.
i'm using
windows rom: 1.66.404.1
radio: 2.12.50.02_2
my androids boots always.. but there are a few connection drops but it's ok
Mine using Omega WWE v16?? forgotten, radio 2.15.50.xxxx, and Madeejay eVo v1.7, always work except sometimes crash com.android.phone while the system still runs. Just download v2.2 yesterday and while waiting the startup, found v2.3 is out!
Anywa, the v2.2 starts andnow going to check it up.
Check my sig. This combo has NEVER failed on me...
also read this
You have to deal with the lack of Camera in DesireHD ROM though...For Now!
Murg
cheers i'll try that. didnt really wanna start changing my windows rom as well but looks like im gonna have to give it a go as i've tried just about all the radios and numerous android bulids takes about 10 attempts to start up. then if it freezes gotta go through it all again
heard the chunky rom works well with it?
is there any onther settings in windows or android that that need to be on or off for it to work better?
Check my sig - this is a very stable build, I have no issues other than occasionally flaky mobile data connection!
I have found that a fuller WinMo ROM works better for android - I had trouble with some of the "stripped out for Android" ROMs available. Artemis is a high performance ROM with all features, if anyone knows of a more bleading edge ROM I would like to know!
Been using my combo since the beginning. OzDroid has been nothin but excellent. Hyperdroid is, in my opinion, the best build out there.
No problems whatsoever.
Data is strong. Bluetooth is working. This is my everyday setup. Only time I see WinMo is when I update files or whatnot.
murgers said:
Check my sig. This combo has NEVER failed on me...
also read this
You have to deal with the lack of Camera in DesireHD ROM though...For Now!
Murg
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On the energy rom and does seem better but still not get a boot everytime. ive tried mdeejay hd and i like it but still not booting up everytime and had a few sod when charging.
hyperdroid has seemed to be the most consistent for me but is there a desire sense version or theme for it or something?
check my sig, so far so good
my setup works flawlessly.
my first try tho i thought it locked up on initial setup, so i pulled the batt. when i rebooted i ran logcat to see what whas happening, turns out i pulled batt while it was setting audio , i wiped my sdcard and started over.
this time i waited a few min for it to set up the kernel etc, once that was done i conected thru adb and watched the logcat for errors etc. once it calmed down ( about 20 min) then i proceded to log in, set up my google account. once that calmed down i rebooted, loged into the market and lodded my apps etc.... all good.
VBN reloaded 2 minimal winmo.
MDEEJAY rEVOlution 2.0
Radio 2.0.12
Consistent 7mA idle.
Battery lasts whole day normal use (5 phone calls, 30 sms, auto email sync on 4 accts. - about 150 emails..30 mins internet) . No freeze, no SOD. Kow
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Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Exactly how do you find out what version of ROM, Radio etc. are on your phone?
still suffering some SOD what tips are there to minmise this? like i head taking off auto lock or something in windows helps? and some other screen settings?
another side note, if it fails to load intermitently, im going to bet that the data on the sdcard is corupt. copy the files off it, format it, then copy back on.
if that does not work, format it wiping every thing and start from scratch.
Best combo
I think if you use the latest tmobile us build 3 14 501 with radio 2 15 50 04, these are my results for two days
the froyo builds with nexus kernel fail miserably,lot of things go haywire or work slowly, wifi slow ,camera flash gets stuck,sods with brightness,apps work slowly,consume battery more
but with the above wm 6 rom with the same radio htc sense builds like
mdeejay rock and they are fast as lightning,everything works smooth
with the above wm6rom build and radio ,on both build types(froyo and evo) there is no robo voice
this i tried even after i flashed the new stock rom it didnot disable my hspl 3 which i had installed earlier.htc sense build worked with it fine.
However i was slightly scared about the new t mobile rom with regard to nexus kernels and i reverted back to energy leo oct 25 build with radio 2 10 50 26 which is awesome.i reinstalled mdeejay evo stock rom which is awesome fast and blazing with some minimal echo still, it works better with the energy rom and radio 2 10 50 26 this is my daily android phone build i use.
My current build test
Currently as i stated above my build is mdeejay evo stock 1.1 with r8 hastarin kernel , energy rom oct 25 and radio 2 10 50 26
for all users i recommend using us hd2 rom builds as there is something different between the two hd2 makes us and non us
as i flashed a non us build 3 14 core wm 6 rom and it did bad things to my android froyo hd 3, mdeejay buildss, so i reverted back to energy roms and now with radio 2 10 50 26 its my daily build with excellent working status (battery at the end of day with no wifi or data is 85%)
i have another micro sd card it has miui build from mcm joon mccm se 3 with hastrarin r 8 kernel which is working awesome with my build but the battery consumption is too much about 4%/hr, i dont know why the nexus based builds consume so much battery. I will work on it this weekend
my defaut micro sd card is 16 gb i got with hd2 it has the mdeejay build ,miui build is on the kingston 8 gb class 4 card.
Micro sd card
I dont know the conclusion of this test results i have
my wm6 rom is energy rom and radio 2 10 50 26, micro sd card is default 16 gb sandisk class 2 card
froyostone v 3.2 was slow on it, while the mdeejay evo stock version 1.1 is blazing fast ,there is something mdeejay does with the animations sometimes they annoy you but are so blazing fast with minimal battery consumption.
This weekend i am getting my class6 16 gb sandisk card and i am going to try all the builds on it along with various radios and wm6 roms. Will post the result as soon as possible.
My question is there is something called swap( disk space) used in linux distros where they use it as a part of their ram space so they keep all the applications in it for faster work . Is there any way we can use it in android so that the apps run faster with minimal battery consumption.
For all us hd 2 users please use radio with 50 in it.
My simulation of froyostone build
I simulated what darkstone did to his hd2 with the same wm6 rom and the same radio and the same android build , but the only difference was my us hd 2 , it failed miserably with wifi slow,flash got stuck and apps were damn slow and sods,ultimately it became unusable and i had to switch to mdeejay build . Thats why i always feel there is something diffrerent in both hd2 models as well as there is some difference in the wm6 rom builds for each of them.
I am still waiting for darkstones new build with sense as it will be always with better stability.
chrisman99 said:
still suffering some SOD what tips are there to minmise this? like i head taking off auto lock or something in windows helps? and some other screen settings?
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Was facing the SOD once a day till installed WM ChuckyDroidROM (this is IMPORTANT) + 2.12.50 Radio + android ROM of your choice (IMHO mdeejay does it properly
I forgot about these black screens completely
Installing Android = Pain in the A**
for more than a month trying to install android flashing, hard reseting, restoring
i am really tired i even forgot why i wanna use android any way.
my current software information is:
OS version 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
manila version 2.5.19211619.0
rom version 1.66.415.9 (76641) WWE
radio version 2.15.50.14
protocol version 15.42.50.11U
HSPL 3
can any body tell me which of the above needs changing and which android version should i use?
my current android version is froyostone and mp3 not working and incoming and outgoing calls robot sound i cant hear any thing
thanks
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
I would also like to know which is the most stable Android build to-date (i am not bothered with the HTC Sense layar).
I agree ^^
Right now I'm using mdeejays evo sense 2.3 revolution and upgraded the kernel with Hastarin R8 and it is very stable!!
Its gonna depend on many factors such as what WM rom you're running and what radio as well. I would recommend you get chuckdroid WM rom, a good recent radio, and either evo sense 2.3 or Bangsters 1.5 (if you dont want sense) Ive had good results with both.
Latest Energy WinMo ROM, 2.12 radio, the Android build linked below.
Works fantastic, all day, every day. CM6 mod. MDPI/HDPI hybrid too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769026
MichaelVS said:
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
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I like my setup (in my sig). There's a new skinnyEVO v1.5, and since I haven't tried it, I can't speak of its stability.
The issue you'll encounter in most Android builds is data dropping, which is caused by using PPP (not RMNET) connection. This can be 'fixed' by turning on/off airplane mode.
+1 for Mdeejay builds
just loaded Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 1.1 Matted this morning, so far v smooth, battery 5mA in standby, camera with flash working, no probs so far.
deff' the best of the 3 android builds ive tried
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797357
For the one who said that it depends on many factors, here is my current specifications;
OS-Version
5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila-Version
2.5.19211619.0
ROM-Version
1.66.409.1 (76641) NOR
ROM-Date
01/12/10
Radioversion
2.12.50.02_2
Protokollversion:
15.40.50.07U
What kind of setup would be best for my specs?
sumflipnol said:
I like my setup (in my sig). There's a new skinnyEVO v1.5, and since I haven't tried it, I can't speak of its stability.
The issue you'll encounter in most Android builds is data dropping, which is caused by using PPP (not RMNET) connection. This can be 'fixed' by turning on/off airplane mode.
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I'm on O2 in the UK. Using the latest Sense version of the PhireMOD Skinny EVO (v1.5) with 2.15 radio and the latest Chucky ROM 23139 ~ 3.14. Rock solid stability and very smooth and fast. I get an occasional data drop but that's the same with every PPP build. Battery life with light usage is approx 2 days.
Just upgraded to V8 kernal and it's smoother than ever. Best andriod build i've used - apart from the data drops (which is not the fault of the build) it's pretty much perfect for me. The key is to get the right combination of radio/wmrom/andriod. Unfortunately it seems to be different for different people so just a case of trial and error until you find the right combo. In my case the switch to 2.15 radio solved a lot of issues.
energy and skinnyEVO v1.5 with latest kernell update is the best setup you can get.... after a long search i foud this one to be the best..... oh radio 2.12.50.xxxx great battery life..... >
energy rom and mdeej's Revolution is by far the best sense build to date and there is a new radio for those of you that dont know yet 2.15
There is no guaranteed catch all perfect setup. what may run perfectly fine for me may run absolutely horrible for you. Different strokes for different folks.
Factors you have to consider:
SD Card (class, size, whether is SDHC or not, how it is formatted, cluster size)
Battery calibration (does your battery last a long time in WinMo?)
Your own knowledge (if you cannot be bothered to search for any simple problems then you WILL get frustrated trying to run Android)
the best way you can find out the best setup for you is trial and error.
dazzyb2k3 said:
I'm on O2 in the UK. Using the latest Sense version of the PhireMOD Skinny EVO (v1.5) with 2.15 radio and the latest Chucky ROM 23139 ~ 3.14. Rock solid stability and very smooth and fast. I get an occasional data drop but that's the same with every PPP build. Battery life with light usage is approx 2 days.
Just upgraded to V8 kernal and it's smoother than ever. Best andriod build i've used - apart from the data drops (which is not the fault of the build) it's pretty much perfect for me. The key is to get the right combination of radio/wmrom/andriod. Unfortunately it seems to be different for different people so just a case of trial and error until you find the right combo. In my case the switch to 2.15 radio solved a lot of issues.
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Sorry for the noob question, but can somebody describe data dropping to me?
I got a HD2 from work on the weekend, so the first thing I did was install android
I installed: Radio_2_14_50_04, and FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2. This combo is working fine and seems stable.
The problem I had yesterday was that I could not access the internet although I had a strong 3g or H signal. The problem would suddenly disappear and access would be fine for a few minutes and then no access again. Access seems more consistant today.
Battery life seems a problem too, it was fully charged at 7am this morning and was down to 5% by 5pm, that was with mild usage apart from about an hour mp3 and 30 min gps.
Any of this sound normal for android on a HD2?
MichaelVS said:
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
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MichaelVS said:
[Q] So what is currently the most stable setup for android on HD2?
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is the one you really like, the one that appeals to your needs and whims the most
so try them builds around and share your ideas and experience with each of them
tonyh0905 said:
Sorry for the noob question, but can somebody describe data dropping to me?
I got a HD2 from work on the weekend, so the first thing I did was install android
I installed: Radio_2_14_50_04, and FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2. This combo is working fine and seems stable.
The problem I had yesterday was that I could not access the internet although I had a strong 3g or H signal. The problem would suddenly disappear and access would be fine for a few minutes and then no access again. Access seems more consistant today.
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there is a VERY BIG discussion on a lot of threads about data drops, search for them. that is one nagging PITA at the moment for Android. switching airplane
mode on and off always worked for me though, also need to have the correct
APN setting for your network
tonyh0905 said:
Battery life seems a problem too, it was fully charged at 7am this morning and was down to 5% by 5pm, that was with mild usage apart from about an hour mp3 and 30 min gps.
Any of this sound normal for android on a HD2?
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reboot Android at least three times and the battery usage will improve drastically
my juice lasts a full day of moderate to heavy usage.
jigners said:
there is a VERY BIG discussion on a lot of threads about data drops, search for them. that is one nagging PITA at the moment for Android. switching airplane
mode on and off always worked for me though, also need to have the correct
APN setting for your network
reboot Android at least three times and the battery usage will improve drastically
my juice lasts a full day of moderate to heavy usage.
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Thanks for the info...the airplane mode trick worked a treat
When you say reboot android 3 times, do you mean reset the whole device, or is there a way to shut down and restart the android os?
Cheers
Tony
I use:
VBN reloaded 2 minimal ROM
mdeejay revolution 2.0
radio 2.12.50.
One time deals:
i) turn off auto backlight in winmo
ii) do a g-sensor calib in winmo
Make sure you :
i) Load android using EBL *as soon as you possibly can*
ii) press the back button when its loading HaRET
and you are all set !!!
z
If you're like me, a subpar or incomplete Android 2.2 on HD2 experience was NOT an option. I've been through pretty much every combination, followed everyone's advice and always ended up unhappy for one of several reasons :
1. The ROM I installed was missing features, like the camera or other features that crashed.
2. The dreaded "Sleep of Death"
Not to say anything against any of the ROM chefs, because these guys are hard-working geniuses and they do this for free... for us...
But having said that, I had to keep trying. I'm obsessive compulsive when it comes to my gadgets and once I had a taste of Android on the HD2, I knew I wouldn't be happy until I found that elusive combination that made it work the way I wanted it to.
If you're having trouble making Android work on your HD2, listen up... Because now mine works like a charm and here's how it happened...
1. You absolutely HAVE to get rid of the stock Windows Mobile 6.5 that comes on your HD2. I never found a way around that. Until I flashed a custom ROM, it never worked 100%. To do this you need to flash HSPL to your HD2. This allows the installation of custom ROMs.
2. You have to strip Windows Mobile down to next to nothing. If you plan on using Android 2.2 as your daily operating system, you don't need it anyway. I tried lots of versions, but face it - you won't need WinMo anymore once you get Android working 100%. For this, use Chuckydroid, hands down. It is stripped down to next to nothing - no Sense 2.5, nothing fancy in Windows Mobile. BARE. BONES. Chuckydroid can also be set up to autoboot into Android!
3. After installing Chuckydroid, I also flashed Radio 2.15 just to have the latest radio. I've heard people talk against it, but again - I'm working 100%, so I'm happy.
4. For my Android ROM, I chose Mdj revolution 1.5, and updated to the S1 Linux kernel. It was one of few builds that had all features working as they should. The S1 kernel patches a lot of issues that might arise with the MDJ build.
5. Lastly, I noticed I didn't have 3G signal after all this and discovered that at some point my APN information (which tells the phone how to connect to data services) had been wiped out. I am a TMoUSA customer, so I found the information for the USA servers and added it manually to the phone. (System/Wireless & Networks/Mobile Networks/Access Point Names)
I know this isn't every piece of information you need, but if you read each point and investigate on your own, you'll find there's a wealth of information out there to guide you through each step, but to clarify :
1. Flash HSPL (I used HSPL 3, but follow the directions when you find it)
2. Install Chuckydroid (No other custom ROM worked and I tried them all)
3. Flash Radio 2.15
4. MDJ Revolution 1.5 w/ S1 kernel (Most stable and complete I could find)
5. Manually configure APN
Again I'll close with the fact that I have a fully-working Android 2.2 HD2 device. All features, all functions, no errors, no robot voice, no SOD, no gremlins... It just works. Good luck! If you have any additions to this plan, let me know! I'd like to know that I was using the newest 100% WORKING(!!!) Android built with all the best features.
I'd also like to add that, given my luck, now that it's taken me over a week to get Android 2.2 working flawlessly on my HD2, in the next day or so we'll see one of four things :
1. A flashable Android 2.2 ROM that completely replaces WinMo as the Operating system
2. A flashable Android 2.3 (3.0) Gingerbread ROM
3. A flashable Windows Phone 7 ROM
4. The return of Christ
Zaron3d said:
4. The return of Christ
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That's it That's all...
funny
before 1,2,3,4 you can also try:
0. replace kernel with s2 also made by mdeejay. they say it's very good
thinking better i don't belive this thread belong to this section
noris08 said:
funny
before 1,2,3,4 you can also try:
0. replace kernel with s2 also made by mdeejay. they say it's very good
thinking better i don't belive this thread belong to this section
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Well I tried a lot of these "quick shortcuts" to make things work and nothing did. Believe me, I've been down every road to make this happen...
and yeah I guess I put this in the wrong section now that I look at it. Sorry!
Yep, this thread have to be moved into the Android General Discussions section.
Just let me know if you have a constantly data transfer on on your "working-like-charm" Leo and I'll immediately flash ChuckyROM (which version?), 'cause I've tried EVERYTHING, my battery lasts 3,5/4 hours running Android and I have to recharge it twice everyday...
vysus said:
Yep, this thread have to be moved into the Android General Discussions section.
Just let me know if you have a constantly data transfer on on your "working-like-charm" Leo and I'll immediately flash ChuckyROM (which version?), 'cause I've tried EVERYTHING, my battery lasts 3,5/4 hours running Android and I have to recharge it twice everyday...
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try this combo:
- wm - energy nov 8 21684 cht 1.8.5
- radio - 2.15
- android - mdeejay revolution 1.5
- kernel - mdeejay s2
i have only 6% battery drop over 9 hours of standby, all data transfers closed and gsm only, not 3g
all things i tested works flawless
i think you missed the most important thing...
--> hard format your SD card before trying
Camillo
Format or not the SD makes non differences, I have huge battery drain in every situation.
I've had several issues running mdeejay builds, so I prefer FroyoStone 3.2 by Darkstone. I've never tried Chucky ROMs before, so I'd like to flash the brand new one
@camillo
no i didn't forget format card. i just don't do that, formatted first time and never again since then
@vysus
do whatever you want. i just suggested a combo that works very well for me
noris08 said:
@vysus
do whatever you want. i just suggested a combo that works very well for me
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You're welcome
Unfortunately, NRG ROMs and PPP builds are not suitables for italian providers: using the first ones I had battery drain, trying the seconds I have had continuos data drops, missed calls & SMS, HUGE and nearly incredible battery drain.
I still would like to know which version of Chucky fits better with android, it's the last chance, after that I prefer to let go...
i think an correctly configured setcpu is the most important fact for battery life.
my combo:
winmob:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793814
radio: 2.12.50
Droid: hyperdroid 1.7 (nexusHD2 since yesterday cuz of new harastin kernel)
sdcard: transcent class6 sdhc
battery drain without setcpu (overnight, 8h): 40%
with : 3%
TBH I have found no difference between a fully featured winmo rom (laurentius V4 or Energy nov 8th) versus Ozdroid which was stripped down.
I have found that of course the kernel makes the most difference - currently on S2 and it seems rather peachy.
As for battery drain I have found that it is fine even without setcpu on this kernel - however - once in a while, especially at the end of the day, the battery drains super fast - I believe there is an errant process or data transfer that messes it up (perhaps whatsapp?).
I stillhowever have PPP disconnects regardless.
I haven't had one since I disabled the stock widget though.
i only have ppp disconnects if i kill all my tasks. if not, it works fine
I start off my android adventure few weeks back and now I found my treasure and have stop searching.
Here is my combination,
WM ROM: vbn clarity
Android rom: mdj froyo revolution 1.5
Kernel: mdj s2
I have tried some other build and the battery life can only last me half a day but with this combination after more than 12 hours of usage, I still have 40%. (Usage: check email every 30 mins, check xda app every 30mins, moderate web surfing, a few calls)
So for those still struggling to find the combination, you might want to try my combination. Enjoy
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
A different spin on Android Issues
I too was having issues with SOD, random freezing/rebooting, robot voice etc and basically gave up on having a usable version of Android working on my device.
But then I had a slight lapse in judgement and came up with another hair-brained idea... I decided to attempt to get T-Mobile to let me just switch to a different phone like the Galaxy S / G2 / or MyTouch 4G.
So I task 29'ed the phone, flashed back to the OEM rom, then removed HSPL while not at work... Over the next 2 hours I began to notice that I was having issues even on the default OEM rom.
I got curious, removed the SD card, re-installed HSPL, re-downloaded the T-Mobile Official Rom from their website, and task 29'ed the phone again, reinstalled the OEM rom, and removed HSPL again just to make sure that I hadn't just got a corrupt download or something.
Within 20 mins of loading the T-Mobile rom back on the phone, my phone randomly rebooted itself. Later while I was in the middle of a phone call the phone just made a weird buzzing sound and froze. The buzzing sound would not go away until I removed the battery and restarted. I was also having many of the issues I was seeing in all of the Android builds that I had tried like the screen taking forever to come back on after being locked, the screen being non-responsive etc...
I had attributed all of these problems to the Android roms I was using and Android not being 100% and stil too buggy for the HD2 when it actually was a problem with the device itself.
I went to T-Mobile last night and they are sending me a new phone (probably a refurb) by the beginning of next week. I'm hoping that the new device will clear up all of the issues.
Just thought I would share my experiences, maybe some of you that are having issues with the Android builds could actually just have a bad device like I did...
Zaron3d said:
After installing Chuckydroid, I also flashed Radio 2.15 just to have the latest radio. I've heard people talk against it, but again - I'm working 100%, so I'm happy.
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Followed your suggest, flashed latest Chucky GTX, did anything else, switched to Android, unplugghed my phone at 2.30 PM, some calls and SMS, few calls received, battery is 42%, over 10% per hour that turns to 12 and over using the device, now I'm hopeless
vysus said:
Followed your suggest, flashed latest Chucky GTX, did anything else, switched to Android, unplugghed my phone at 2.30 PM, some calls and SMS, few calls received, battery is 42%, over 10% per hour that turns to 12 and over using the device, now I'm hopeless
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Uhhh... what? It depends on what you have running I guess. Mine seems to be running fine. Off the charger for about 3 hours and only down to 90%.
Since I've just had my HD2's screen replaced, I'm still on the stock ROM from when I got the phone back from HTC. I just popped my SD card back in and off I went. The stock ROM works perfectly with Android for me. The radio is the one they installed (see sig).
I'm not sure that WM ROM has that much effect tbh. With the ppp wrapper patched and running the S2 kernal from MDJ, I managed a 320 mile trip with Google Navigate running the entire time. I never had a single data drop or problem with the phone. I was connected to my car stereo via bluetooth too.
I tried the initial NAND build upon release but had to go back to Winmo for the following reasons;
Higher battery drain than Duttys Family Rom
Led stuck on all the time after a message
No screen rotation
Crashing playing .wma files
Contacts listed by first name, no way to change it without editing it all.
Random freezes, slow to respond after standby, low volume in calls even after trying the speaker fix, g sensor would not calibrate.
All in all, enough to put me off. However, having gone back to winmo I can see that android is the way I want to go.
So, simple question; which build, if any, has the most of these issues fixed particularly battery drain and rotation? I am not bothered about getting 'under the hood' to tweak everything just a nice clean stable ROM with no fancy UI tweaks.
And I have searched on this for days but there are many, many opinions in hundreds of pages of comments. Thought I would ask here for the benefit of anyone else looking for a nice clean android build.
I have only tried the CM build (call me a fanboy), and it's really stable. I have noticed the 60mA battery drain still happens at times, but using Quick Reboot (free on market) one or sometimes multiple times fixes this without too much effort.
Speed, stability and features (well, the ones I use, didn't do a thorough test on everything) are all good.
I will no doubt slap my forehead for this but what is the CM build?
Has any build so far fixed the battery drain and sensor properly?
Cynagen mod =cm
I'm using MDJ's gingerbread its very stable and plenty of free space but no gps usb or camcorder apart from that smoorhest Android build I've ever used and one used most
i suggest NexusHD 1.9 NAND version, it's very stable, smooth and fast and i have no problem with it. just works well ;-)
Are these suggestions based just on personal preference or do they address those issues I had in the first post i.e battery drain, lack of rotation (G-Sensor problem I guess), LED stuck etc?
Appreciate your input all the same but I feel like reflashing Android today and want the best ROM...if those issues are fixed.
CM based or Nexus1. I think that until they are optimized, Sense are a no-go for Nand : too heavy, too big. You will be left with 50-40mo for apps and that includes apps2sd. Count on the double with CM and N1 Nand's. And in terms of battery life, G-sensor, they work perfectly.
The Led seems to give problem to most of the Nand for the moment...
Downloading the Nexus 1 rom now, I can live with the led if sensor and battery are better, especially as it is so easy to get back to winmo if needed.
I Know Ill Slap Myself Too For Asking Nooby Questions...but
Does it Matter What Radio i Use To Flash nand android as long as its above 2.08.whatever number ....i forgot....will it still work
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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Sync contacts with gmail then it stores them in the clouds
Try HD2ONE froyo cm 6.1.1 nand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It supports using your existing cm6 data.img on sd card. This alleviates the issue of low device storage.
This was rock solid as an sd build and better on nand.
I'll be sticking with this until gingerbread has all features working.
Hello all,
Firstly a big thank you to all on this site for offering such a fantastic platform to rebuild our priced gadgets to something which is more user friendly...
I aint no techie but in the past have used this site to upgrade the ROM/RADIO for my HTC HD2 phone as was constantly facing a drop in signal and the phone booting up etc...
My current details are as listed below:
OS 5.2.21913(21913.5.0.94)
Manila version 2.5.20181527.1
Rom version 3.14.161.3 (04666) WWE
Rom date 15Dec 2010
Radio version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
some of my queries:
- I am thinking of converting this to a complete Android OS... Is this possible on the above specs ?
- Is the benefit with Android only to do with additional applications available in the MARKET (WIN6.5 hardly has any and most are charged!) or will i get a better connectivity/signal strength and a better battery life ?
- I noticed on a few forums about a dual boot with Android on the SD card but am not keen on booting the phone every now and then.. would rather stick to one - Android or W6.5
- I do have a problem with the phone sometimes while browsing with Opera or IE. The phone heats up a lot and then just shuts off or the screen freezes and I need to open the battery slot, get the battery out, reinsert and then start the phone all over again. Its quiet sad thing and yet I love the damn phone!
I apologize in advance in case if I have posted this wrongly in this forum. Kindly point me to the right direction, as always...
Cheers!
HTC fan from India
Do it, there is a tool that can do it for you without much hassle, nice simple gui. I would suggest doing the nand android method instead of booting from sd.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
enigma075 said:
Hello all,
Firstly a big thank you to all on this site for offering such a fantastic platform to rebuild our priced gadgets to something which is more user friendly...
I aint no techie but in the past have used this site to upgrade the ROM/RADIO for my HTC HD2 phone as was constantly facing a drop in signal and the phone booting up etc...
My current details are as listed below:
OS 5.2.21913(21913.5.0.94)
Manila version 2.5.20181527.1
Rom version 3.14.161.3 (04666) WWE
Rom date 15Dec 2010
Radio version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
some of my queries:
- I am thinking of converting this to a complete Android OS... Is this possible on the above specs ?
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yes
- Is the benefit with Android only to do with additional applications available in the MARKET (WIN6.5 hardly has any and most are charged!)
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yes
or will i get a better connectivity/signal strength and a better battery life ?
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no
- I noticed on a few forums about a dual boot with Android on the SD card but am not keen on booting the phone every now and then.. would rather stick to one - Android or W6.5
- I do have a problem with the phone sometimes while browsing with Opera or IE. The phone heats up a lot and then just shuts off or the screen freezes and I need to open the battery slot, get the battery out, reinsert and then start the phone all over again. Its quiet sad thing and yet I love the damn phone!
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oh dear, that doesn't sound good, I'd suspect overheating leading to hardware faults. As an example I can browse and listen to music all day long with very little temperature change. Winmo or android.
I apologize in advance in case if I have posted this wrongly in this forum. Kindly point me to the right direction, as always...
Cheers!
HTC fan from India
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Summary,,, if you want to change, change, if you don't, don't. Android wont make the phone "better" but it will give you new stuff to play with.
That being said I'd be wary of too much flashing since it sounds like you have possible hardware problems on the horizon,,be a shame to get stuck in an unflashable state.
hello guys... thank you both for your encouragement... would rather flash the phone and play around with something new instead of letting it die a natural death...
Whats the latest version of the NAND ANDROID that you guys recommend ? ne links on it with a detailed description...step by step... i aint a techie remember..
thanks for the views and responses...
Cheers!
I had the same dilemma a few days ago, ended up putting on the NAND rom of android and it obviously a lot better to play around with than winmo but the battery life is not as good as with winmo on. Still lasts a couple of days on standby with a little bit of use.
The rom I would reccommend is the one I flashed, Typhoon cyanogen mod 7 without sense but every thing works perfectly on it so far.
Here's a link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Once you have installed it set the cpu with SetCpu app to about 800 mhz and it works fine without getting overly hot.
ryan123459 said:
I had the same dilemma a few days ago, ended up putting on the NAND rom of android and it obviously a lot better to play around with than winmo but the battery life is not as good as with winmo on. Still lasts a couple of days on standby with a little bit of use.
The rom I would reccommend is the one I flashed, Typhoon cyanogen mod 7 without sense but every thing works perfectly on it so far.
Here's a link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Once you have installed it set the cpu with SetCpu app to about 800 mhz and it works fine without getting overly hot.
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+1
Also, by tweaking the CPU VDD levels you will provide to keep your phone colder and squeeze some more juice from the battery: you can find all the instructions on the first page of Tyween's thread (the link above).
hi there... thanks both for your response... is the version provided in your message the latest files/version that is available for download or are there any other versions to look around for ?
Before flashing I plan to save my contacts with msn mobile... it saves my contacts and sms's... will i be able to recover it in the same format after i upload android ?
noticed on some forums that gsensor is a problem... does it impact the functioning so much on android ?
One of you mentioned 'sense' will not work on android... does that mean the seamless touch that is there on w6.5 will no longer be applicable...
requesting all this information just to be double sure b4 going ahead with something major like this...
are there any video tutorials on this ? the link as so many sublinks... i am thoroughly confused...
thanks in advance for your response...
The version of android is 2.3.5, the latest version at the moment I think.
The G sensor works fine on mine I have been playing games which use the sensor.
The phone touch will work fine its just you won't have the htc customization of clocks etc.
I'm not sure about saving contacts but if you could somehow save the contacts with a Google account it would be straight forward getting them onto android.
So to sum up everything seems to work fine as it would on Android though the battery doesn't last as long, but it still lasts a considerable time for a smartphone.
If you follow the link for the Rom I posted, in there, there is a instruction document made by someone which is very easy to follow. Just follow it step by step and you should be just fine.
PS make sure you backup anything you require before starting the process.
Good Afternoon
A friend of mine wants to install Android onto his device and wants me to do it for him as he doesn't want to mess it up.
Is there any sort of idiot guide to show me how to do this, I don't think it'll be easy as when I update the ROMs on my Desire HD
Also which build would one recommend, I want something he can use wiht any issues if possible.
Thanks in advance
hi ryan,
thanks for your revert mate... and clarifying about the gsensor. When you say the standard HTC application like 'clock etc' will not be there... would that take away the weather background which I so like... is there something similar available in the android market to download at a later stage (i love the weather thing HTC has to offer)...
Never tried google to synchronize my phone contacts... is it done through USB or over the air using 2G or something like that (sorry am quiet a novice with gmail!). Will it sync my sms's too... ?
I have changed my battery and no longer use the original HTC one... as it would drain out in a few hours inspite of me using the phone sparingly. I now use a chinese battery from the last few months and it lasts me a good 1.5-2days at max...
Will my service provider in India 'Loop Mobile' be able to send me the new settings that are compatible with android ? Being a weekend I don't want to loose out on contact sync in the middle of the night if the data plan is not activated again...ne suggestions would be appreciated..
There is a clock-weather app in the market which is similar to HTC sense's.
Not sure how google sync works with winmo you would have to figure that out.
About the service proivder I can't be 100% sure as my first android rom on SD didn't work straight away with T-mobile uk but this typhoon one worked straight away, but if you had setting on winmo you should be able to get it on android.
Software Guru said:
Good Afternoon
A friend of mine wants to install Android onto his device and wants me to do it for him as he doesn't want to mess it up.
Is there any sort of idiot guide to show me how to do this, I don't think it'll be easy as when I update the ROMs on my Desire HD
Also which build would one recommend, I want something he can use wiht any issues if possible.
Thanks in advance
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Follow the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
and under install tutorials use the clean installation guide, which I used and it tells you step by step what to do, remember to download all the required files first which are all in the link.
Hi, use "SpriteMigrate" to transfer your sms from winmo to android.
I prefer Typhoon, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
hi there... i just checked up the "spritemigrate" site and they have closed their FREE BETA application... what a shame as it seemed like the perfect solution to my problem of storing sms/contacts before flashing the phone...
any other options ?
cheers and thanks for writing in mate...
hi there again... as mentioned in my earlier posts... i have sync my phone to msn mobile and hence all my contacts and sms's are backed up every night on msn... once i move to android.. will i be able to sync the phone again just as i did with w6.5 ?
I do have a gmail account but not sure if they have the feature of storing sms's along with the contacts in google mobile. I am frustrated trying to figure out an option for contacts and sms's together.. any help would be appreciated...
cheers!
Oh Lord... I am so frustrated... spent the whole afternoon trying to figure out to save contacts and sms's online somewhere before i flash my phone but sadly no luck... just realised msn-my phone service has been deactivated and most other services are paid services...
Guess this is the only thing that is stopping me now from flashing the phone inspite of downloading most of the required files...
My last attempt - any help guys ?!?!?
thanks in advance...
Cheers!
Hi Enigma075, a little off topic but watch out with flashing in case the issues that you've described get worse. The symptoms you're describing, phone heating and screen unresponsive are exactly what happened to my HD2 recently. A week or two after it started the screen became entirely unresponsive and now HTC are (hopefully) fixing it.
Have a search on google, a few other people have encountered this as well.
I recommend trying SD first.
Note that some users reported NAND android to cause bad blocks in the NAND. so if anything bad happens, you might not be able to flash windows again. Read a lot about specific NAND build before you try them.
SD builds cause bad blocks on SD card, which is easily repairable. on NAND, it's not easy, if possible.
hello Dr. Move & Wsummers,
thank you both for responding to my post. I guess I would go in for the SD first as its getting extremely frustrating to save my contacts somewhere and then put it back again on NAND plus the tension of bricking the phone completely...
Are you able to advise me on the latest link on the SD version ? Have a few questions on this method:
- Will the phone become slow in terms of usage ?
- Will I have to reload the contacts again when i boot it to the sd android mode ?
- Whats the battery response like ?
Thanks again for your insights...
Cheers!
you can use titanium backup to backup your contacts, it'll save you quite sometime. alternatively, you can export your contacts to your SD and reload them again on the SD version.
Newer SD build are quite fast in terms of usage, not as fast as the NAND, but the difference is barely noticeable.. but that depends on how you use your device. Note that some games may not work on certain SD versions.
You can try the two versions in my sig, I've tried both for more than a month, and they're quite stable.
Battery consumption in standby is low in new builds, I get around 7 mA/h when the phone is on and 3 mA/h on airplane mode. some people experience even lower values. it depends more on your SD, and the network coverage.
in hourly terms, you'll lose ~1% per hour, and ~1% every two hours on airplane mode.
if you have any problems regarding the SD version, you can check my troubleshooter (in my sig), or ask me directly