[Q] Android and HTC HD2 - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

ok first i wanna say that i have HTC HD2 and i am completly new to all this kind of hacking stuff.
My phone specs:
Hardware:
OS version: 5.2.21869(21869.5.0.82)
Manilla version: 2.5.19211619.0 (idk what it even is)
ROM version: 1.66.479.2 (76641) WWE
ROM date: 01/11/10
Radio version: 2.07.51.22_2
Protocol version: 15.32.50.07U
Hardware Information:
CPU: QUALCOMM(R) 8250B
Speed: 1024 MHz
RAM size: 448 MB
Flash size: 512 MB
Data bus: 32 bits
Ok so the question is: How can i get Android (Froyo please) working on my HTC HD2 and so that i can always return to my previous OS (WinMO6.5 the 1 that came originally with the phone) with all the settings and contacts.
Android --> HTC HD2
ps: sorry if this was discussed before, but i really dont want to risk my phone, this is why i beg you for help.

been discussed a million times b4, but it DOES NOT delete your WM, it runs seperate, so to return to wm its just a case of turning it off and rebooting and it will be like it was b4

<edit> thank you for atleast being a helpfull newbie and posting as much info re: your current set up as you did. had you not, i probably would have posted the link and said search... <edit>
this thread has all the info you'll need..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734335
im in a good mood right now, first, read the stickies, then look at the info you psted... you need a newer wm build and a newer radio...
personaly, since you realy need to start every thing from scratch, thats exactly what i would do.
download the latest oem build, hspl, task29 etc.
do a factory reset
flash latest oem
flash hspl
factory reset again, boot into bootloader, run task29.
you now have a clean phone, no left over garbage
flash the wm build of choice.
on to android:
pop the sdcard out, copy any thing you want to save to your computer
format the sd card, if your on windows, dont do a quick format, DO A FULL FORMAT
put android build of choice on the sdcard
folow instructions from the build of choice
note: on first boot, every thread says it takes a while.... its true! theres alot going on, it just doesnt look like it. its going to take a good 20min for it to convert file systems etc (this is why the full format is important)
personaly i recomend even once android boots up the first time, leave it alone for 5 min! dont even sign in! after the wait, do the setup, let it sync, then let it sit for another 5 after the synch.. reboot!
on 2nd boot, go ahead log into google maps, market etc.... search for some apps, play with ring tones, blah blah blah... .
last but not least, folow the link in my sig on battery conditioning....

Actually, there's no need to HSPL the phone!
Since the latest firmware update (the 3.14) will also update his radio to 2.15!
All one has to do is (after reading those stickes etc. of course!):
1. Update the phone as per instructed in the official HTC website
2. Look for a Froyo build in the Android development and follow its instruction
Cheers!

Wow guys, thanks alot. Look like i will have to read all that stuff for all this evening
btw, if i have like 500mb on phone memory and 2GB microsd card, will it be enough for Froyo ?
edit: after reading for like 2 hours i understood that i understand completly nothing. all i kno is that i need something thats called hspl (it requires something thats called spl, and anyways i didnt understood where to look for it) then i need to install like 1 wm rom, then only get android and do some majick with files. blah xD
anyways, thx for help, guys !

dj_ghosie said:
Actually, there's no need to HSPL the phone!
Since the latest firmware update (the 3.14) will also update his radio to 2.15!
All one has to do is (after reading those stickes etc. of course!):
1. Update the phone as per instructed in the official HTC website
2. Look for a Froyo build in the Android development and follow its instruction
Cheers!
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no, its not NEEDED, but id highly recomend it.
there are alot of steps people can take as shortcuts, alot of those shortcuts cause issues for some people.
for some one just starting out, esp for some one that pretty much needs to update every thing anyways, i recomend cutting out possable headaches, and wipeing EVERYTHING.
a clean nand and a fresh sdcard go's A LONG WAYS twards a stable system, esp since we need to basicly dual boot. its almost like running in a virtual machine, so any issues in the base os can result in issues in android.

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[Q] Newbie to install android

Hi experts,
I have a HTC HD2 (T-mobile).I am using it as unlocked with Wind Mobile, Canada.I like to use Android froyo but not sure which rom and version of froyo I should consider.After seeing so many forum I understand that not all roms are for the T-mobile HD2.Does any one has little time to suggest me?As it was an expensive cell phone for me, I want to use all of its features including camera flashing,wi-fi and ofcourse Skype over wifi,G-sensor too.please help me.
Before you can get the correct rom you need to know a few things about your HD2. I have just done this (with a lot of help of people both on and off this forum) so I will sread what knowledge I have.
1) Figure out which SPL you have (restart your phone whilst holding down the volumn down key).
2) Download the correct HSPL for your phone.. so if you have SPL 1.66 then download and install HSPL 2 (as it covers 1.66, .172 etc
3) Verify that your Radio is 2.08 or above. if it is not then upgrade it
4) download your choose Andriod rom -- I brought down Froyo 1.8 mattcleofroyo1.8
5) your SD card has to have at least 2 gig free
6) unpack your android rom and you will get an Android folder - copy that to the root of your SD Card.
To start Android
============
NOTE: the first time you do this it will takes ages so DON'T PANIC - it can take up to 15 minutes
1) make sure you have at least 50% battery power or are on main power for the first start
2) go into the android folder and run the program CLRCAD - it will see to do nothing but that is ok
3) Run the program HARET... this will load and boot Android.
That it.. it isn't as complicated as it sounds. The important bit is the prep work making sure you have the minimum Radio version etc.
Good luck
TonyOCL said:
Before you can get the correct rom you need to know a few things about your HD2. I have just done this (with a lot of help of people both on and off this forum) so I will sread what knowledge I have.
1) Figure out which SPL you have (restart your phone whilst holding down the volumn down key).
2) Download the correct HSPL for your phone.. so if you have SPL 1.66 then download and install HSPL 2 (as it covers 1.66, .172 etc
3) Verify that your Radio is 2.08 or above. if it is not then upgrade it
4) download your choose Andriod rom -- I brought down Froyo 1.8 mattcleofroyo1.8
5) your SD card has to have at least 2 gig free
6) unpack your android rom and you will get an Android folder - copy that to the root of your SD Card.
To start Android
============
NOTE: the first time you do this it will takes ages so DON'T PANIC - it can take up to 15 minutes
1) make sure you have at least 50% battery power or are on main power for the first start
2) go into the android folder and run the program CLRCAD - it will see to do nothing but that is ok
3) Run the program HARET... this will load and boot Android.
That it.. it isn't as complicated as it sounds. The important bit is the prep work making sure you have the minimum Radio version etc.
Good luck
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hi TonyOCL,
I am just curious to to know, does every single function worked for you?
I mean all hardware functions?did you find any difference in battery life
between winmo and android?Can you still boot winmobile os?
Anyways, thanks for reply.
mlhazan said:
hi TonyOCL,
I am just curious to to know, does every single function worked for you?
I mean all hardware functions?did you find any difference in battery life
between winmo and android?Can you still boot winmobile os?
Anyways, thanks for reply.
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Sorry I can't answer your questions as I only finished doing this last night. Until I fully sync my contacts - I can't play with android.
I also will be downgrading my radio to 2_12 to improve stability. Obviously it will take a week or so before i can comment especially on battery.
The instructions I gave will give you android but Windows Mobile will still be your initial OS. So you will boot WM then start android.
Like you .. I won't make Android my default OS until I have tested everything you mentioned.
Hope this helps.

[Q] HD2 Android?

after waiting for a while to see if windows 7 would be released publicly for this phone, and after finish paying off the phone i have decided to just say "Screw you microsoft" and go with an android build, but i have NO idea where to start with this.
The basics of my knowledge of cell phones is that i have put cookies home tab editor, and a few extra things on my phone, i have backed up my phone a couple of times, and i even done the official t-mobile upgrade for my phone, i know a decent amount about computers in general, but haven't had the chance to play around with my phone and it's OS like i have with a computer, being that my phone is very important to me because of my work, and that i don't have a house phone, only my cell phone.
So, could someone at least direct me to all of the forums with the best downloads for the andriod OS, and extras that i will need to get android working on my HD2?
and am i able to run cookies home tab on my HD2 even if it has android OS?
her u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
and u will need
hspl2 or 3
just try the search option and u will get all the information about it ..
if you are ,form gemany then just try this link
http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-hd2-android/100639-installationsanleitung-tutorial.html
if not
try search on hspl2 or 3
I'm from the USA, i have t-mobile, updateing to the android will still alow basic calling on t-mobile's edge, gprs, and 3-g networks right?
yea, i've been looking through that forum thread already, i can't find any leadway on what to do, i see about kernels and stuff, but i don't know what all i need to download in case to get the most "Stable" android system, i see there is a linux build, and i guess hastarin is another one?
Is Linux Stable now?
her u go ( hspl2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
and ya everthing is working well try for exampel this builds ..
they work fine
[UPD][BUILD][27.10.10]Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3 rEVOlution [kernel:hastarin R7.7]
[UPD][BUILD][07.11.10] MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.5 [kernel: MDJ S1]
and dont forget this hier is an step by step information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
hope that will help u
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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Don't quote me on this, but from what I've heard HSPL2/3 indeed are not required, but if you somehow screw up your phone without them, you're basically ****ed. HSPL2/3 should always (well, most of the time) be able to revert you back to stock.
ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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You don't need to upgrade HSPL at all. What you must have (100% MUST!!) is a radio version 2.08 or later (2.x.50 versions, NOT 2.x.51 versions).
Until the recent release of the official 3.14 ROM there was no other way to upgrade the radio to the minimum required other than custom flashing, which requires a HSPL upgrade. (Not 100% sure that 3.14 was the first, but I believe it was).
Either way, it's the radio that's crucial to Android - not HSPL.
(I ain't no Android chef or dev - this is just gleaned from what I've read on this forum, so may not be 100% accurate, but it's never failed for me.)
ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...
ogizz said:
ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...
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Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.
johncmolyneux said:
Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.
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Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.
ogizz said:
Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.
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No worries mate - glad to help. Hope you get it running - Android's sweet
rather than start a new thread, i have a supplementary question.
It's hard to search for this question, so apologies if it's been covered.
Is it better to run a stripped down custom WM ROM to boot android? or will a stock WM ROM (with the correct radio etc.) run Android just as good?
Does it make a difference?
(I just got a stock HD2 with 3.14 ROM and 2.08.50... radio...)

[Q] Simple Instructions Please - Confused!

Hi,
After reading many many threads & watching dozens of videos, & downloading & trying loads of files I still can not get my HTC HD2 to multi-boot ,
The only result so far is to get it to reboot to a lot of minuscule text , way too small to read.
I would like to use the latest android gingerbread & linux ( & maybe xp ?) etc without screwing up / overwriting the windows 6.5 mobile. (it is my primary phone / pda but can not get software for some tasks these days )
Phone is the 512 flash version
Please can someone post simple precise step by step instructions to do the above, including the files needed & how to recover from snafu's.
Many thanks in advance.
M
mbbcat said:
Hi,
After reading many many threads & watching dozens of videos, & downloading & trying loads of files I still can not get my HTC HD2 to multi-boot ,
The only result so far is to get it to reboot to a lot of minuscule text , way too small to read.
I would like to use the latest android gingerbread & linux ( & maybe xp ?) etc without screwing up / overwriting the windows 6.5 mobile. (it is my primary phone / pda but can not get software for some tasks these days )
Phone is the 512 flash version
Please can someone post simple precise step by step instructions to do the above, including the files needed & how to recover from snafu's.
Many thanks in advance.
M
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Extremely simple. Make sure you have the latest stock ROM 3.14 or a custom ROM, but you must have a .50 Radio. Download Android SD Rom. Place the Android folder on the SD card. Run clrcad and haret. Success.
Thank You, please can someone post links to the exact files required ?
Thanks again
M
So you have still WinMo6.5 on NAND with default loader or you have changed loader already (MAGLDR, cLK)?
What radio do you have? It´s written on boot - those red signs on low left corner. You must have 2.*.50.* one.
mbbcat said:
Thank You, please can someone post links to the exact files required ?
Thanks again
M
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No 'exact files required' exist, just find a ROM, download it, place the Android folder on the root of your SD card and enjoy.
Thanks for the replies,
ok, more info;
os version 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila Version 1.0.19211620.0
ROM version 1.72.831.1(82124) WWE
ROM Date 03/01/10
Radio Version 2.07.51.22_2
Protocol Version 15.32.50.07U
CPU Qualcom(R) 8250B
Speed 1024 Mhz
RAM sise 448 MB
Flash Size 512MB
Data bus 32 bits
Storage size 191.31.MB
display Resolution 800x480
Colors 65536
Bluetooth Version 2.1/2.1+EDR
Thanks, sorry to point this out but "download a file & use it" is not too helpful ( WHICH files & FROM WHERE? & in What ORDER ?) - have downloaded lots of files & used them , only succeeded in B**ring the phone to the point of a factory reset & many many crashes.
Sorry about this but I am not an experienced phone hacker/ modifier , just need something that works & works well - any help is appreciated
Many Thanks in Advance
M
OK, you have bad radio version. You have to chnage it to 2.x.50.x (you have 51 actually). Follow this guide to change radio - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881958 It´s step A. When you follow this guide step by step, you should make it work easily
zbeky said:
OK, you have bad radio version. You have to chnage it to 2.x.50.x (you have 51 actually). Follow this guide to change radio - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881958 It´s step A. When you follow this guide step by step, you should make it work easily
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Yes, do that, or, much less riskily (not involving HSPL or anything along those lines) download the Official Stock ROM 3.14 from the HTC website and flash this. There are full guides on the HTC website. This will give you the correct radio.
@ OP, Download the files and use it is as simple as it gets, all you need to do is download the ROM from the ROM thread (the files will have the same name as the ROM title, choose the one which DOES NOT say 'Magldr' as this is for a different bootloader), place the Android folder on SD card and then run Clrcad and Haret. If you cannot understand this, I am unable to help you.
Many thanks again for the replies,
Upgraded the htc ROM , now can boot both Ubuntu & Android from windows
But...
started installing apps to the android & soon ran out of space
One of the threads recommended re-sizing the data.img BUT when I did that & installed the bigger file, apps market crashes , (as sometimes does the loader)
So great to have android but not so good if it does not have the required space.
ALSO
can not see the phone from either my windows or Linux computer EXCEPT when running windows - neither the htc or windows sync programs see it nor does the file system on linux
Any thoughts on the above please?
Many thanks in advance
M
mbbcat said:
Many thanks again for the replies,
Upgraded the htc ROM , now can boot both Ubuntu & Android from windows
But...
started installing apps to the android & soon ran out of space
One of the threads recommended re-sizing the data.img BUT when I did that & installed the bigger file, apps market crashes , (as sometimes does the loader)
So great to have android but not so good if it does not have the required space.
ALSO
can not see the phone from either my windows or Linux computer EXCEPT when running windows - neither the htc or windows sync programs see it nor does the file system on linux
Any thoughts on the above please?
Many thanks in advance
M
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Seems odd, I never had any of those issues? Try a different ROM maybe. What ROM have you tried?

[Q] Dual boot - WM 6.x or Android

I apologize because I know the answer is posted out there somewhere but my 62 year old brain is exploding trying to figure out what to search on.
I've got a US T-Mobile HD2 WM6.5 with the stock opsys on it. I would LOVE to change to a "cooked" ROM (not WM7 if possible because I'm still running XT on my computer, unless someone tells me that is possible) and some version of Android so I can test Android GPS apps.
I tried looking up the threads and posts but couldn't even figure out whether to search for "dual boot", "boot manager", or any one of a half dozen other alternatives.
I'll search the posts if someone tells me how. Which term? Parenthesis?
or the URL to a step by step procedure
or the URL to a post with clear instructions.
I'd love to hear from someone that is actually running a configuration they are happy with.
Sheez, to think I spent over 30 years in Silicon Valley. I feel old.
GPSGary
The only way to dual boot with Windows 6.5 is using HaRET (sd build). There are some programs which will boot up Android straight away. There are no non-stock bootloaders that support Windows 6.5.
here's what ya need to do mate ...
1 head on over to the the Android section for Leo, the go to the sd development subsection.
2 read the first 3-5 posts (stickies) they usually (always) have easy access to guides, roms, various other things.
READ READ READ!!!
Good Luck!
1. Start with checking your SPL in bootloader - vol-down + power while the device is off.
2. Download HSPL4 from here, not forgetting if your SPL matches those mentioned in that post (it should, but if it doesn't, post it here and we will think about it). Get it and run it (from bootloader or WM), upgrade SPL to HSPL 2.08. It is needed to use the cooked ROMs.
3. Find a ROM that matches your needs here. I can't help you with your choice because I used stock ROM until the day I got an 8gb sd card and installed WP7. That section is rarely updated though, so if you know you will be very careful and install only ROMs which support your version, you can have a look here. Be very careful and install only the ROMs which clearly say "TMOUS compatible".
4. Since it's a TMOUS, you shouldn't need to update the radio (basically software controlling your phone), but if you want to be 100% sure, you can install the recommended radio, 2.15.50. Download it from here and install it by running RUU.exe.
5. Get the Android. Choose a ROM in this section. Since you say it's only for GPS, I'd recommend you getting a fast, efficient CyanogenMod-based ROM like AmeriCan Android.
What have you been doing in Silicon Valley, if you can't find needed information? OK, this might be confusing on the first look, but reading a bit would help you a lot.

[Q] Easy one stop Android?

Ive for an HD2 im going to give to my friends girlfriend to replace her current T-Mobile phone thats junk and has a cracked screen.
I have installed HSPL 2.08 to match the stock SPL, but now ive come to a stand still.
I only have a 4GB card right now (unless someone can tell me how to format one from a WP7 device, Windows wont recognize it).
Im getting confusing info about the US devices and radio's as well.
Isnt there a one step install for Android to SD card? Even the 'easy for noobs' directions has many confusing steps.
Unfortunately, no. The easiest way would be sd android run with haret from within windows mobile, but even that requires an updated radio.
Just put windows mobile back, update the radio (which is relatively easy if you read enough) and drop any sd build on your sd card and then click on "clrcad.exe." then "haret" from File Explorer on your phone.
That's the easiest.
Never took WinMo off but i did manage to get a 16 gig card to use. How do i tell what radio it has?
Go into settings > software information > radio.
That's it.
I recommend flashing 2.15.50 (if you don't already have one that is 2.08 or above)
2.15.50.14? Cause thats the one i've seen said 'use' and 'dont use'.
Ok, its got that radio on it. So i guess im good and can just find an image to put on the SD.
Just go into the SD android development, pick a ROM, download it and extract it into /Android/ on your sdcard.. then follow my first post.
Which Android version it is more suitable for the HTC HD2
I have an HTC HD2 running the original windows professional 6.5. and I m interested to install the Android OS in order to get
a faster an easy OS.
But after reading several posts and watching a lot of vieos on Youtube I feel lost which Android version it is more suitable to my smartphone
and if it is possible to get a little bit of more speed I woul be very happy.
As far as I understand i will require to burn or change my ROM first and then install the Android. But there are the Rafdroid version, the Ice Cream the Jelly Bean and so. Today I read a notice somewhere that a a guy have obtained 1.66 Ghz of speed at the HTC HD2 that it is amazing.
A little of speed would be great but the most important it is to have the Android because it is easy and may allow me to view videos ouside
youtube.
I will appreciate you advice and comments how to decide about the Android version.
Marvlesz said:
Just go into the SD android development, pick a ROM, download it and extract it into /Android/ on your sdcard.. then follow my first post.
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Well, i did, i found AmeriCanAndroid. But when i launch Haret it says it cant find the zImage which is not in the NativeSD folder, but in the kernal/boot folder. Also in following the guide for this on YT, when i copy it to the SD its only 123 megs, not 232 like in the video. So im lost as to whats going on.
Also, my ex-wife had an HD2 briefly that had Android on it that you could launch from a shortcut on the home screen. Any idea how to do that?
Ok, i got this resolved. Once i realized MAGLDR wipes WinMo off i found an EXCELLENT video on YT for dual booting WP7 and Android. Thanks to the guy who made it, very thorough and had the links to the required software in the comments.

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