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Hi,
I got my Vibrant and I love it! One question i have though is about root. I want to remove the bloatware but will I lose anything if I root? Touchwiz? Anything?
Also, if I remove the bloatware and happen to reset my phone later, would the bloatware come back?

You will lose nothing and it takes like 2 minutes to root your phone.

rooting has no downside that i know of. if you wipe those apps will not come back as far as i know

Awesome, Thank you both for the info

make sure you back up your data

If i root, will i be able to update when samsung puts out an update or anything such as that?

You will be prompted to update, but the update will break the root.
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You will need to re-root and it will most probably be available before the update. I'm hoping the custom 2.2 rom will be available by then
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So if i just update from a rooted one, it will just go to 2.2 from samsungs without it looking like i ever rooted?

mystycs said:
So if i just update from a rooted one, it will just go to 2.2 from samsungs without it looking like i ever rooted?
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Yup.
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If i root will i be able to uninstall all the crap that came with it? Make the battery run longer, and will i be able to revert at any time if i wish?

Okay i removed the Kindle, MobiTV, Avatar, GOGO, Slacker and telenav. The weird thing is that root explorer doesnt want to set it back to r/o and i had 183mb used, relaunched root explorer and now i have 253mb used...did I do something wrong?
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Also is it bad that i went into data/data and deleted the folders belonging to what i removed?
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I restarted the phone and now everything force closes >.>

How does one uninstall the bloatware while rooted?
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Oskiee said:
How does one uninstall the bloatware while rooted?
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Install Root Explorer from the market and remove the .apks from system/app
Also i heard somewhere to also remove the folders belonging to the app in data/data but im not sure if were supposed to do that x_X

Bloatware

I am wanting to remove all the bloatware and whatever else the custom ROMs on here remove without installing a custom ROM...is that possible? if so, what are there?
I couldn't find a list on google for safe ones to remove/freeze

Yes it is, you must be rooted but using Titanium Backup is the easiest way IMHO

theimpaler747 said:
Yes it is, you must be rooted but using Titanium Backup is the easiest way IMHO
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Yes I am rooted with Titanium backup pro and i have many apps frozen, but i want to freeze ALL of them that aren't needed..just not sure whats safe and what is not.

reinert012 said:
Yes I am rooted with Titanium backup pro and i have many apps frozen, but i want to freeze ALL of them that aren't needed..just not sure whats safe and what is not.
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Here's a nice list for Droid Pro, so they'll be about the same

theimpaler747 said:
Yes it is, you must be rooted but using Titanium Backup is the easiest way IMHO
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thanks a lot!

reinert012 said:
thanks a lot!
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No problem Let me know if you need anything else!

Hide Rooting

My fascinate recently stopped recieving text messages and Verizon has sent me a new phone to replace it but I want to make sure the fact that I rooted it is covered up. I used the odin restore and it worked properly. Will this cover up the fact that I had my phone rooted?

Yes. If you did a full restore to stock with ODIN, it is now exactly like it was out of the box.

Check in your apps to make sure Superuser is gone. Then you should be good.
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ktez said:
Check in your apps to make sure Superuser is gone. Then you should be good.
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Yeah its gone, I just dont want to have to pay for a new phone lol.
Thanks a lot guys.

and make sure you uninstall any apps that need root to work...get rid of all root evidence

JoeProcopio said:
and make sure you uninstall any apps that need root to work...get rid of all root evidence
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This is REAL good advice. I had to take my fascinate back to Verizon last night for an issue I couldn't resolve through these forum threads . I flashed back to stock, which un-rooted the phone (and got rid of SU) and as a thought uninstalled the apps requiring root and the backup folders for titanium and rom manager. The FIRST thing they did was look through my apps and folders. I just smiled and said thank you for their help and on the way home silently thanked the Devs at xda for all their hard work and advice. You people are gold!

2.50.405.2 OTA download link

In case anyone needs it, here is the link to 2.50.405.2 OTA directly from HTC's servers.
http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Ace_Ginge...36.405.8_R_release_199069usj0n606bsao7iw1.zip

any1 rooted 2.50 ????

How do I install this? I'm not rooted. Does this work like a regular OTA? Will I need to reinstall my apps or restore my contacts and sms, or does it keep everything intact?

rohithksaj said:
any1 rooted 2.50 ????
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I have, but you need root to use it.

Whats the difference between an RUU and an OTA?

ozaghloul said:
How do I install this? I'm not rooted. Does this work like a regular OTA? Will I need to reinstall my apps or restore my contacts and sms, or does it keep everything intact?
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Yes... How to install this update? Anyone?
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Speaking as a newbie to all this the rough instructions are in the following thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770091.
With the exception of you must disable fastboot before powering the phone down or take the battery out before starting the phone up again at step 2.
It doesn't work on my phone mind. It gives an invalid operation error and just reboots.

New to android. Considering rooting

Hello people,
I'm relatively new to the Android wold (1 month) and I bought an Arc from my Carrier.
I'm kinda satisfied but I really dislike the way some applications can't be removed (I count something like 20 applications between the carrier and Sony Ericsson partners).
So, I'm considering rooting the phone, but there is a lot of informations I shall process before doing it and I am a little bit unsure about some facts, so I hope you would help me. Here's my questions:
Is it really a reasonable behavior to root the phone, just in order to remove a 20ish apps or would you think I'd have a better experience to just stick with it ?
I understood there was some problems with arcs under android 2.3.4, they seems to be solved, but I'm unsure which method I shall follow (I don't want to mess the bootloader nor the ROM, I just want root permissions). May you show me which way I shall go ?
On my linux computer, I won't login under root every time I would power it on. When the phone is rooted, does this means, I am always granted root access and I shall be aware of what I'm doing or can I choose to get root privileges only when I need them ?
If I root the phone without changing the bootloader, would I be able to update the phone along Sony Ericsson releases ? (OTA only ?)
Thanks by anticipation for your answers.
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New and simple way to root Arc / Arc S with locked bootloaders:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1320350
Yes, you'll still be able to update via SEUS as long as your bootloader remains locked. But you'll lose root once you update.

Is it really a reasonable behavior to root the phone, just in order to remove a 20ish apps or would you think I'd have a better experience to just stick with it ?
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If the crapware is using up space you need, then that's a pretty good reason to get rid IMO. If SE had left us with a bit more free space it might not be such an issue. Also, root lets you do lots of cool things with your phone that you cant do otherwise.
I understood there was some problems with arcs under android 2.3.4, they seems to be solved, but I'm unsure which method I shall follow (I don't want to mess the bootloader nor the ROM, I just want root permissions). May you show me which way I shall go ?
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If you have 2.3.4 then the best bet seems to be the zergRush method detailed here. Havent tried it yet myself, but planning to soon.
On my linux computer, I won't login under root every time I would power it on. When the phone is rooted, does this means, I am always granted root access and I shall be aware of what I'm doing or can I choose to get root privileges only when I need them ?
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Dont think of rooting as giving *you* superuser access, think of it more as allowing you to choose which *apps* have superuser access. Apps with superuser access can do things normal apps cant. Think of the apps as the users of the system - you're just interacting with normal or privileged apps.
When you root, a superuser access app gets installed. Then whenever a non-system app requests su permissions, the superuser app will ask you whether to allow or deny those permissions (you can allow the app permanently or have it ask every time).
If I root the phone without changing the bootloader, would I be able to update the phone along Sony Ericsson releases ? (OTA only ?)
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Yup you will still be able update via OTA or via SEUS. Updating via SEUS will remove root, but so far OTA updates have maintained root (no guarantee this will continue in the future though).

don't delete just freeze
i advice not to delete the apps that comes with the phone cuz you will not gain extra memory so if there any app that bother you just freeze it and it will be removed from the app drower and it will not work again but when you feel you want them back unfreeze it

Thank you Daveybaby, and thanks Hush066 too.
Now, I'm a bit more aware of what's the rooting process and I shall say you both fired quickly an answer to each topic. I think I'll try the rooting, after the weekend.
Thanks you again.
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HSNalfar3 said:
i advice not to delete the apps that comes with the phone cuz you will not gain extra memory so if there any app that bother you just freeze it and it will be removed from the app drower and it will not work again but when you feel you want them back unfreeze it
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What do you mean by "freezing" the apps ?
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All new members should read the stickys, it saves people having to rehash information. ;-)
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XperienceD said:
All new members should read the stickys, it saves people having to rehash information. ;-)
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I'm sorry, it's true I've posted a bit fast. Yet, I didn't found the sticky talking about freezing apps, but I found out I have to root the phone, even if I only wish to freeze the apps.
Now I know I'll have to root the device (the bloatwares are starting to annoy me a great deal) should I uninstall or freeze the carrier apps.
Thanks again for every answers.

Excelsior82 said:
What do you mean by "freezing" the apps ?
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Apps such as Titanium Backup allows you to either uninstall or freeze a system app. Freezing the app just disables it while uninstalling will completely remove it from the phone.