Root question... - Vibrant General

Hi,
I got my Vibrant and I love it! One question i have though is about root. I want to remove the bloatware but will I lose anything if I root? Touchwiz? Anything?
Also, if I remove the bloatware and happen to reset my phone later, would the bloatware come back?

You will lose nothing and it takes like 2 minutes to root your phone.

rooting has no downside that i know of. if you wipe those apps will not come back as far as i know

Awesome, Thank you both for the info

make sure you back up your data

If i root, will i be able to update when samsung puts out an update or anything such as that?

You will be prompted to update, but the update will break the root.
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You will need to re-root and it will most probably be available before the update. I'm hoping the custom 2.2 rom will be available by then
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So if i just update from a rooted one, it will just go to 2.2 from samsungs without it looking like i ever rooted?

mystycs said:
So if i just update from a rooted one, it will just go to 2.2 from samsungs without it looking like i ever rooted?
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Yup.
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If i root will i be able to uninstall all the crap that came with it? Make the battery run longer, and will i be able to revert at any time if i wish?

Okay i removed the Kindle, MobiTV, Avatar, GOGO, Slacker and telenav. The weird thing is that root explorer doesnt want to set it back to r/o and i had 183mb used, relaunched root explorer and now i have 253mb used...did I do something wrong?
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Also is it bad that i went into data/data and deleted the folders belonging to what i removed?
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I restarted the phone and now everything force closes >.>

How does one uninstall the bloatware while rooted?
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Oskiee said:
How does one uninstall the bloatware while rooted?
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Install Root Explorer from the market and remove the .apks from system/app
Also i heard somewhere to also remove the folders belonging to the app in data/data but im not sure if were supposed to do that x_X

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Root or wait for Android 2.2?

Hey guys, I'm new to the Android community and I'm completely in love with it now that I had the phone for several weeks. Like every other phone I get, I'm always eager to customize it in all the ways possible.
So here is my question, rooting seems simple enough with the great guides you guys have here. However, I've heard that Android 2.2 is right around the corner with new great features. I read that if you upgrade your firmware, it will un-root your phone back to stock.
I'm already hungry to try the new features that a rooted phone can do but I'm thinking that this update is worth waiting for since this phone is new anyways.
Any opinions?
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
Were would I find the rooted roms?
DynamicXL said:
Were would I find the rooted roms?
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In the development section.
Its a file you can find . Its not a rom. Your phone will still get the ota even after you root it. Can't say the same for custom roms
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Cool, thanks for the quick responds guys.
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Absolutely ROOT. I have some things to do once rooted in the sticky, please let me know if you have suggestions.
Rooting have nothing to do with ota update but flashing a customer rom will.
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
nick_karstedt said:
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
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i second this
Yeah, I think I'm going to root my phone soon. Thanks for the help!
Fuse8499 said:
I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Not sure how rooting your phone is going to solve your battery issues? All that rooting does is give you root (superuser) permissions on your phone. You can do this to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled on the phone, run various apps that require root. But I can't think of any way that it's going to allow you to save battery life that you couldn't already do non-rooted.
My only reason to root was for wifi-tethering...
I know the newer version of Facebook is a battery eater. I switched back to the older style and my phone is happy again.
Root is great.
1. Remove bloat apps
2. Remove the annoying T-mobile jingle
3. Root Explorer is fun to play with
I think thats all I've really done so far. Well I should that I've wanted to really do so far.
Rooting isn't working for me otherwise I would have to agree :-(
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
I pretty much had the same question. But after a little reading just now I actually understand what rooting is. Helps that I'm familiar with linux! Attempting to root in 5 4 3...
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So if you don't have a data plan you can't get the ota update? You must root? Mine is on AT&T with no data plan right now.
Isn't there much more to rooting then apps and root control? I've seen all the custome ROMs people get to customize the phone and theme just about everything.
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s15274n said:
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
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No I just Have a file named update.zip. I have tried two different methods twice now and once I'm in recovery and go to flash the zip it says it isn't there. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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So I rooted my phone earlier today. It was unbelievably easy to get the whole set up going.
Haven't had much time to fool around with it yet except for several apps that require root access, mainly to flash and back up my data in case of an oops.
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Removing supplied apps

Is there any way to remove some of the apps that are pre- installed on the phone? They do not appear in the list of apps that I can remove.
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Nope
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actually you can. You'll need temp root (visionary), and titanium backup.
but i don't think you'll want to remove any apps yet, because you won't be able to get future OTA updates then.
SupremeBeaver said:
actually you can. You'll need temp root (visionary), and titanium backup.
but i don't think you'll want to remove any apps yet, because you won't be able to get future OTA updates then.
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What do you mean by this? Wont be able to update because of removing apps?
Ethania said:
What do you mean by this? Wont be able to update because of removing apps?
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exactly.
Because by removing stock apps you are modifying the system partition.
You can read more here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818162&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817971&page=2
So I am stuck with SoundHound, even though I have the paid version of this app? That's crazy.
bobbyelliott said:
So I am stuck with SoundHound, even though I have the paid version of this app? That's crazy.
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well until someone figures out permanent root then we're stuck.

Hide Rooting

My fascinate recently stopped recieving text messages and Verizon has sent me a new phone to replace it but I want to make sure the fact that I rooted it is covered up. I used the odin restore and it worked properly. Will this cover up the fact that I had my phone rooted?
Yes. If you did a full restore to stock with ODIN, it is now exactly like it was out of the box.
Check in your apps to make sure Superuser is gone. Then you should be good.
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ktez said:
Check in your apps to make sure Superuser is gone. Then you should be good.
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Yeah its gone, I just dont want to have to pay for a new phone lol.
Thanks a lot guys.
and make sure you uninstall any apps that need root to work...get rid of all root evidence
JoeProcopio said:
and make sure you uninstall any apps that need root to work...get rid of all root evidence
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This is REAL good advice. I had to take my fascinate back to Verizon last night for an issue I couldn't resolve through these forum threads . I flashed back to stock, which un-rooted the phone (and got rid of SU) and as a thought uninstalled the apps requiring root and the backup folders for titanium and rom manager. The FIRST thing they did was look through my apps and folders. I just smiled and said thank you for their help and on the way home silently thanked the Devs at xda for all their hard work and advice. You people are gold!

Bloatware

Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
Chris1051 said:
Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
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You can install custom ROMs that basically mirror the stock ROM but it has bloatware removed. Just look carefully.
The sticky at the top of the forum links to a lot of FAQ's like this one
In particular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Incredible/Guides&Tutorials#Removing_Bloat
Even easier, you can use Titanium Backup to do it. Or Root Explorer. Or pretty much any app that can write to the system partition with SU access.
Oh and sorry I am using tapatalk and couldn't find the search feature to reply in thread about bloatware. Accept my apology.
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
BrettApple said:
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
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This is the easiest way IMHO.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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It's almost impossible to brick, it's become so easy to flash roms, root, etc.
Just factory reset if you want to go back. Kinda the point of flashing is to get the latest greatest before it is released. Oh, all all those goodies I am sure they will omit.
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Chris1051 said:
Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
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The devs here are beating the piss out of VZW OTA's. Just flash a custom 2.3 ROM.
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[Q] root help on samsung epic

I am currently thinking about rooting my samsung epic.I was planning on going through with with the easy one-click root. My question about rooting is if I root it would I be unable to upgrade to 2.3 when samsung actually releases it?
SOTASFINEST65 said:
I am currently thinking about rooting my samsung epic.I was planning on going through with with the easy one-click root. My question about rooting is if I root it would I be unable to upgrade to 2.3 when samsung actually releases it?
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From what I know when you root and run different ROMs you cant get OTAs. But its simple enough to restore your phone to stock
So root away!
And besides...once Gingerbread does come out the custom ROMs built off of that will make it worth it to root again
So check my signature for qbkings how to videos and get to it
Sorry I am really at both rooting and posting threads. How would i go about returning to stock when 2.3 releases? and then could I do the same process to re root after i get the ota? and I will check your videos, thanks for all your help man.
scratch what i just wrote about how to haha. Does the odin flash to stock erase all my contacts and current apps on my phone?
SOTASFINEST65 said:
scratch what i just wrote about how to haha. Does the odin flash to stock erase all my contacts and current apps on my phone?
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Yes, and the rooting process for Epic Gingerbread us still under discussion. If you upgrade from a custom froyo rom to a custom gb rom, you'll bypass having to root again and lose minimal data.
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Do you mean the current gb roms that have been leaked and are out for rooted phones now? or do you mean when samsung themselves release the update that the update itself will be available for rooted phones in a rooted state itself? and if you meant the current gb updates that have been release are they smooth running or still a bit glitchy since they aren't the finished product? I apologize if any of this is common sense haha
If you root now and put a custom 2.2 rom on phone then you can just wait a day or two after the ota gb release before ace or someone else releases a custom rom based on the ota gb release. Then you will be able to flash the upgrade and not lose data. I would suggest Midnight, bonsai or syndicaterom frozen by acs.
Samsung Epic SyndicateROM Frozen 1.1
I actually have no idea what rom I am going to to go with after i root it haha. Ive just had this phone for a few months and feel like doing something new, i also want to put a free wifi app on there so i dont have to pay sprint more for a feature i had free on my old tp2. like i said I am a complete rookie to this besides putting cfw on my old psp and having android on my tp2 , and that means that if i just wait for the gb rom to come out complete after someone makes a custom for it than il just have to come back to the great xda and upgrade myself?
The newest syndicate rom would be right up your alley. Read the instructions, watch the video and you'll be fine.
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I'm you guys are getting annoyed with all my questions so il aske a few last ones and will root my phone with in the hour. Does using a different rom transfer my apps and contacts? i wasnt sure if it acted as a new skin or a duel boot kind of like how my tp2 was. If i back up my phone right after the root I am guessing i can restore to back up if i am not a fan of the rom, or is there a different way? You guys are a ton of help thanks the root and lancelane.
SOTASFINEST65 said:
I'm you guys are getting annoyed with all my questions so il aske a few last ones and will root my phone with in the hour. Does using a different rom transfer my apps and contacts? i wasnt sure if it acted as a new skin or a duel boot kind of like how my tp2 was. If i back up my phone right after the root I am guessing i can restore to back up if i am not a fan of the rom, or is there a different way? You guys are a ton of help thanks the root and lancelane.
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Some ROMs back up your data, and others do not. It depends on the ROM. You should do a simple root, and backup with Titanium backup and do a Nandroid backup as well. Just in case. Apps and contacts usually are available when you log back into your gmail but if you save contacts on phone instead of google they won't. You can also export your contacts to google or your sd card.
Ask away. But also look at the videos.
the contacts are not that big of a deal since i do have it saved on my gmail, but i didn't think my apps could be saved and transfered. and random question i have a few games saved on tiger gba and psxondroid, would i lose those save files saved on the emulator on the new rom? I know i don't loose any of that on the root or so my research lead me to believe.
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the contacts are not that big of a deal since i do have it saved on my gmail, but i didn't think my apps could be saved and transfered. and random question i have a few games saved on tiger gba and psxondroid, would i lose those save files saved on the emulator on the new rom? I know i don't loose any of that on the root or so my research lead me to believe.
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Again that depends on the ROM. Some, like Bonsai, now back up and then restore your data. If you root and use Titanium backup you will be able to restore data to those games if they get wiped.
Ok so somehow i suck at the one-click method. It says something about no phone being found. I guess i will have to get a bb usb cord and try again.
SOTASFINEST65 said:
Ok so somehow i suck at the one-click method. It says something about no phone being found. I guess i will have to get a bb usb cord and try again.
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Turn off your anti-virus and firewall as well.
And try a different usb port.
Turn off the anti virus on my phone or the comp?
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SOTASFINEST65 said:
Turn off the anti virus on my phone or the comp?
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Computer. Phone will do its own thing.
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I've been busy working but I will try to see if I can't get the root to work when I have some time off
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SOTASFINEST65 said:
I've been busy working but I will try to see if I can't get the root to work when I have some time off
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Most anti-virus and some firewalls see rageagainstthemachine as a trojan so will block it and sometimes delete it.

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