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[ROM][DEAD] Retro1 v2 - "Is it a Dream? No, it's a Freken Cupcake!"

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So, one day Kaos pointed out an old beta build, and this got me to looking around at old ROMs. I took a look at JF1.5. Vanilla Cupcake! It's a nice ROM, but was difficult to port. So, I said to myself... Tainted Cupcake! Here is the result.
Thanks to:
JesusFreke for, well, too much to list.
Kaos for the inspiration.
Hoban for the inspiration.
almost everyone in the IRC channel for teaching me something
dsixda for cranking out an awesome Kitchen, day after day
Anyone who has ever posted DETAILS to XDA about how to do things.
All devs for your time.
Both of you who want to go back to Android 1.5.
EDIT:I almost forgot Captainkrtek who did some early testing for me. (Did I get that in before he ban
The base ROM is a stock Eris 1.5 ROM that jcase put 'su' and 'superuser' in, but I won't thank him since he said not to.
What you get:
1) Android 1.5 base from HTC
2) su and Superuser (rooted)
3) deodexed
4) png optimization (most apks anyway)
5) zipaligned
6) most of Sense removed, much like the 'Tainted' ROMs
7) most remaining HTC apps have a Vanilla look and feel (at least the icons)
8) stability
9) responsive user interface
10) wireless and wired tethering (I haven't tested the wired yet though.)
11) bash and nano
12) 'Everything' should work.
What doesn't and never will work:
1) Marketplace apps that require Android 1.6+
2) any feature that requires Android 1.6+ (Live Wallpapers, for instance)
Other features this DOES NOT HAVE:
1) Cyanogen goodies
2) OC, UV, and other kernel tweaks
3) Apps2SD
4) any kind of Yogurt
TO-DO:
1) disable OTA updates - I renamed the ota cert file, but it still gets the update...
2) setup the initial home screen better - I've tried changing that in the Launcher.apk, but have yet to get it to work.
I highly recommend Connectbot for a terminal app, but v496 works best on this ROM.
Just so I'm clear, this is a really basic and clean ROM. There are not a lot of extra features. However, the battery life is really good because of this.
DO NOT install the Verizon OTA update. It will most likely unroot your phone. v2 won't ask anymore
DOWNLOAD:
http://surrette.org/roms/Retro1-v1.zip
http://surrette.org/roms/Retro1-v2.zip
What I did:
1) loaded up the base Eris 1.5 ROM in the Kitchen
2) looked at the Tainted Vanilla Kitchen to find the script used to remove Sense components
3) ripped that part of the script out and ran it to remove Sense
4) compiled AOSP Cupcake (using Android Builder) and copied several apps from there into ROM
5) tested and found AOSP MMS would FC, so I put HTC's back
6) tested and found that AOSP Cupcake's Email app does not have Exchange support, so put HTC's back in.
7) opened up several apks with APK Manager and replaced HTC's icons with icons from Vanilla apps
8) opened up Launcher and attempted to change res/xml/default_workspace.xml, but testing afterward always failed
9) also grabbed a handful of open source binaries from here and there, but really haven't used them much yet
10) zipped, signed, and uploaded the ROM
11) NOTE: While this is version 1, it's probably the 30th or more build that I have actually built and tested. Fun times.
12) v2 - removed Systemupdater.apk (thanks tenzomonk!) and a couple of things left over from testing (CorpCal & Vanilla Contacts)
13) v2 - added several tweaks from the forum and KaosFroyo's *.rc files (vm.dalvik.heap=32m and some possibly power saving tweaks)
I have been running some variation of this for most of the last two weeks, except for one day that I tried a Froyo ROM. While I am admittedly easy to please, I have had no issues that haven't been worked out by now.

Why not? I'm DLing now. Gonna try tonight.

Its about darn time you cooked us a rom lol
Sent from my Nonsensikal Froyo Eris

looks good!!!!
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1) disable OTA updates - I renamed the ota cert file, but it still gets the update...
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is there a systemupdater.apk file in /system/app? if so, remove that... ota updates gone

tenzomonk said:
looks good!!!!
is there a systemupdater.apk file in /system/app? if so, remove that... ota updates gone
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Ha! Funny. Such an obscurely named app. How could I have known?
It's there. I'll try that now. I have a couple of other minor changes anyway, so I'll do them all at once.
Thank you very much for the help!

listyb01 said:
Its about darn time you cooked us a rom lol
Sent from my Nonsensikal Froyo Eris
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You know... This IS my second ROM. It's just the first one that works.
I just flashed SgtShultz again. Weren't you going to help with that?

gnarlyc said:
You know... This IS my second ROM. It's just the first one that works.
I just flashed SgtShultz again. Weren't you going to help with that?
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What the heck is that and what do you need help with?
Sent from my Nonsensikal Froyo

I just flashed this a while ago and so far i like this rom but i couldn't place a call, sync with google, there's no gallery, and none of my music would show up. I also just caught that there's no calendar app right before i was about to post this. Other than those problems, everything seems fast and smooth.
Update: just reflashed and phone is now working, music showing up, and google synced all my contacts.

andrew23215 said:
I just flashed this a while ago and so far i like this rom but i couldn't place a call, sync with google, there's no gallery, and none of my music would show up. I also just caught that there's no calendar app right before i was about to post this. Other than those problems, everything seems fast and smooth.
Update: just reflashed and phone is now working, music showing up, and google synced all my contacts.
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I'm glad it started working for you. As I said in the OP, I've had no issues. (Of course, I'm just one tester.) You are going to miss some things that you would have with a newer version of Android, but it should just work. And the battery life is really good.

Congrats on the release!

Captainkrtek said:
Congrats on the release!
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Thank you and thanks for the help.
I've started grabbing the logcat while it boots to work out any possible issues. It's crazy stable already though. And I haven't put it on the charger since yesterday morning and still have %60+. That's by far the best battery life this thing has had in a long while.

Don't you miss the extra features of 2.0+ though? The amazing battery life you described sounds great but I feel like rolling back from 2.2 to 1.5 would be tough to deal with lol.
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MacShannon said:
Don't you miss the extra features of 2.0+ though? The amazing battery life you described sounds great but I feel like rolling back from 2.2 to 1.5 would be tough to deal with lol.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I change ROMs at least every couple of weeks though. So, I'll have those features again soon enough. This is just another fun learning experience for me and a chance to put something out there that is different than any thing else. I like to be different. And shake things up a little. That's just how I roll. Wait until I really understand what I'm doing!
There might actually be a handful of people who really like this ROM and use it daily. Although I'm sure that it won't get the user base of some of the others, but so what...
<JOKE>
Maybe next I'll make a ROM that just has the phone/dialer app with all of this bluetooth, wifi, gps, market, data connection crap disabled. That would be awesome. I'll call it 'Startac'. </JOKE>

Cm6 pros and cons?

I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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There are a lot of opinions about this subject. There are some real pro's to CM6. The tricky thing for most people to understand is that Cyanogenmod is built from the ground up. So when you say you want something that isn't too different, this is going to probably be more unique than you were expecting.
Some great things about CM6 are hidden all throughout the settings, menus, and functions. For example, CM6 is alot cleaner. There aren't any processes that run in the background that you never installed. Whenever you use a stock rom, HTC and Sprint have a number of pre-installed items running. The result is that it is faster.
One huge advantage for me is that CM6 fixes the bluetooth in the phone. Which means that you can connect a Wiimote. This isn't possible with anything that is a variation of the stock rom. Which means only CM6 or other AOSP roms will be capable of supporting the Wiimote on the Evo.
The Cyanogen team has put more focus into things like the way the audio is processed. They use DSP managers to fine tune your audio.
There are some unique settings you can use as well. For example, by holding the back button, you kill whatever app is in the foreground. This eliminates the need for task killers, and lets you truly close an app when you want to.
The biggest pro for most people is that it is substantially faster. This makes games, and other resource heavy apps run smoother. If you use something like PSX4DROID (a playstation emulator), I would recommend this rom because you can use the Wii Controller, and the games will run smoother.
Overall, it's an engineering marvel, because it's built completely by open source developers. These are guys that all have day jobs and do this as a hobby, and in many ways, they do a better job than Google and HTC who have armies of full time developers. That's why they get so much support. Is because it's truly astounding what they do with their resources.

So this might be the blind leading the blind, but I'm a noob as well when it comes to ROM flashing stuff.. From what little you have mentioned CM6 isn't what you want. CM6 is very good but it is not SenseUI, by default it does not have swype, it does not do 4g, hdmi is not there and I'm sure there are other things... That being said, from what I have read, CM is very good for what it is...
If you want to stay relatively stock but with some tweaks, you likely want to look at Fresh or Myn.. do a search in the XDA evo-->android dev forum (actually usually the main thread for those 2 are on page 1 or 2)..
I have settled on Fresh because it uses the latest Sprint rom as its basis so you get most of the new stuff out of the box ie. swype.
Myn has a beta out there using the new rom, but I don't know where it is to download and I am not a good beta tester so I will just wait..
From a process perspective, I downloaded Rom manager from the Marketplace, flashed the latest Clockwork recovery and used the rom manager to download fresh and let it install it for me.. Be sure to check mark the clean everything checkbox in rom manager when it asks..
Hope that helps...
jc8081 said:
I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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I think I'm gonna go with Cm6 just bc it seems like they have plenty of features. But what do u mean not hdmi? Like not even pictures and videos?
Also can someone give me a link to how to install them.. Thanks
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bradleyw801 already did a good job of the Pros, so I'll list the Cons of CM6 (there aren't many):
1. It's the hardest of the ROMs to flash. Reads laughable but to someone who is really new to this whole thing, it's true. Most ROMs you can just flash and tryout. CM6 you need to flash twice: once for CM itself and once for the Google Apps (it's pretty useless without the gapps). ROM Manager makes this pretty painless with a simple checkbox, so follow above advice, but still be aware you need GAPPS.
2. No 4G Support. Yet. That's the keyword, as there are a few devs on this very forum who are runningCM with 4G .... it's just in alpha stages.
3. No HDMI Support. Yet. Again keyword ... but less so. HDMI out is one of those things you hear about every so often but nothing ever surfaces from it. It's like Duke Nukem Forever.
4. For all the Sense bashing that some will do, HTC had some very nice widgets that most people miss when they go to CM. Most notable is the big clock widget. Now there are market apps that emulate it, but the only ones that do a good job of it cost money (beautiful widgets and fancy widgets pro). Be ready to look for apps to replace what came shipped with your EVO if there are some things you like and would rather not be without.
Hope that helps.

Ok now Cm6 doesn't sound great. I actually use my hdmi, are there any roms easy to flash.. i just want one that makes my phone smoother and also so unneeded apps don't run in the background?
Bc mine now is getting slow like when I open my messeges and are going from person to person it takes forever. Thanks again
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jc8081 said:
I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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Well, now that you are rooted it would be a perfect time to get used to making backups and flashing.
You could try making a nand bacckup and flashing CM6(.1.2) and seeing how well it suits you. Like any (or most) ROMs there are themes and you can mess around with different things to make it more to your liking. CM6 is as stock Android as you can get. I don't necessarily dislike Sense, and some of the Sense widgets are really cool (and are for the most part replaceable) but in the end I like the feeling of just plain Android.
The lack of 4G and HDMI out is more of a personal user thing. I haven't missed my 4G and I've been using CM6 for my Evo for almost the whole damn time, since it was first released that is. HDMI never really interested me before, but full UI out is something else entirely. Before it was just hype to me.
CyanogenMod just feels right on the Evo. Best way to decide is to take the plunge and maybe set it up for a day. Restoring a backup is super simple. Take the necessary steps to flash successfully and check it out.
And as for things being deleted off the SD card; not sure if you mean everything or specific things. Things like SMS, call logs etc are not backed up but YOU can back them up in various manners. Some SMS backup apps or what have you which I've never tried. Call log I assume as well. Email and things like that, which are tied to your Google Account are backed up by "The Cloud" or whatever you want to say, and same goes for contacts if you've obviously synced them with your google account. Like, contacts under phone can be synced with google account that way the phone contacts aren't deleted, unless I have that last part wrong.
You can wipe the SD card completely, but that doesn't really happen when you wipe data, cache and dalvik. Just the important stuff so the ROM takes. Check it!
edit: didn't hit submit right away, late post as it seems your not really feeling it. you can remove bloat apps that you don't see fit in ROMs, things that someone might have not removed themselves (even then removed apps are usually available at your discretion) but not all apps can be removed. There are lists about that have "safe to remove apps" and the like.

try it for yourself, if it doesn't do what you need it to, flash another ROM. pretty much any AOSP based ROM has issues with wimax and HDMI but there are many strong ROM's to run, you will probably change it up from time to time and the hardest thing you will find is trying not to flash

You really should try out roms for yourself instead of listening to others. Some people like some things and others like others. I've run CM on 2 phones now (MyTouch Slide and G2) and it's been extremely stable, fast and just fantastic. If it had wimax and hdmi working i'd have it right now (I like watching hulu on my big screen while I eat ).
If you want something that has everything working, myn's warm twopointtwo rom works if you have the older Evo hardware (pre-0004). It's very nice and still runs sense or mikfroyo, which also has sense, but it supports the new evos.
If you want vanilla android and can wait for the wimax and hdmi, get CM, there's just no alternatives. If you can't wait, go to the dev section and look for the threads that start with [rom] and see if any of them suit you better.

Fwiw...I'm a total noob to the android scene. I'm fairly tech savvy, good in general with pc's, hacking tivo's, etc..nonetheless I was very hesitant to root and flash my evo. But, I took three plunge last night, first rooting, then performing a nand backup. I then uninstalled all the sprint apps successfully. I was fairly happy at this point.but I have been experiencing random reboots and sense crashes prior to rooting. So I took the plunge and flashed cm6.1 and gapps last night.
I have to say I wish I had to done this months ago, I love the look, feel,and performance of cm / stock android. I struggled with battery life before flashing, but there is a significant improvement in batt life since ive flashed. I also installed swype beta,as I had received an invite just prior to sprint including swype. Im bummed about the lack of 4g, but 4g is hit and miss in the south bay so I cant complain too much. Oh ya, wifi tether is an added bonus.
I say go for it. ;-)

Well the biggest con is that you can't use 4g or hdmi, which defeats the purpose of buying the evo and paying $10 fee for 4g. Not to mention the fact that stock android looks like a 3rd rate Linux distro from early 2000s.
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so me running cm6 defeats the purpose of me owning my phone????
I dont live in a 4g area......4g is only really advantage when tethering to a laptop

Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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jc8081 said:
Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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Sure. First sticky at the top of the forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
The stickies are pretty comprehensive for the EVO. Pretty much anything you'll want to know will be there.
As for CM6. It's super fast. I love it. I don't mind being without 4G (at least when I'm not testing ) and HDMI (I use Twonky Media Server to stream pics and vids to my Xbox over wifi).
Both of these features are coming soon so if you decide to go with another ROM, just keep following CM for updates on these features. When they are done I don't see why you wouldn't use CM.
As for alternative roms... I know Myns is very popular.
Also, I'll note, you can always flash CM6 and play with it for a bit and then wipe and flash any other rom.
tl;dr - Read the sticky, try myns and follow CM progress.

You might want to take a look at MIUI. It's well designed (unlike Sense), is pretty fast (faster than Sense), and has a ton of extra features (like Sense). While it doesn't have WiMax right now the CM guys are close to getting it working; and since both are based on AOSP, it will be relatively easy to port to MIUI. I prefer CM but if I didn't have a iPhone (since MIUI tends to feel like a copy of it) I'd probably use MIUI.

If you can live without 4g then go for it. The battery life is great. I flashed a sense rom today and with in an hour I was flashing back to cm6.
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Ok thanks now one last question I think... when I do nandroid backup does it save my apps? Bc i was watching a video it said u have to nandroid backup and apps with titanium I think...
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bottom line: try a few ROMs, each for a day, and stick with what you like. no substitute for trying it out yourself.
fine print: i'm a vintage user. I was running android on my Vogue before there was an android phone, when GPS would always place you in san fransisco (someone will know what that's all about - thanks dzo). anyways, having a rooted phone is about many things, but one of them is the ability to flash and try what you want.
if you've got a deal breaker, like 4g or HDMI out, sure that limits you now, but as posted before keep reading and trying new things as they come out. if you're lucky, you may yet become a flash-aholic.
i'm a sense guy; not for the launcher (off and on i'm running adw, lp, and sense home, depends on the month), but for the sense apps. I love the sense messaging app, that's the program I use most on my phone. I ran vanilla for a long time on my vogue, and I tried out CM6 for a day. it's just not me. and I never use 4G or HDMI. you won't know what fits you until you try, though.
to each their own. use what you like.

I use to be a die hard CM fan but now Im using MIUI. Both have a lot of nice features.

Titanium Backup will allow you to backup apps selectively and then reinstall them later. (you can do many other things as well) This is very useful, especially for apps that you can not easily obtain. (ie. not available in the app store) An example is any game from GameLoft or a beta that you may have. (like Swype before it was deployed) So after you switch to CM6 or whichever ROM you can then load these apps on to the new ROM.

Feedback about some custom ROMs I tried after rooting [Legend]

Hi there,
After managing to root my recent Legend (HBOOT 1.01 / OTA 2.2) using Blay0's manual I started trying...
Cyanogen 6.1: too "Gothic" for me (might be because it's my first Android phone and I kinda got hooked to sense / clean looks) Seems to be very tweakable though...
B 0.7: WiFi didn't work (sort of known issue which is mentioned there, but I didn't try the proposed solution, since I wanted to try other ROMs first
Modaco r4: ok, nothing special
YogenTouch: most beautiful and smooth one around, though 2 showstoppers for me: no choice of standard languages (especially chinese pinyin input) and G-sensor doesn't work [EDIT 2011-02-20: apparently a patch was released to make the G-sensor work]. Actually when I read about nu4a-yt1 I liked the feature set even more (get rid of facebook crap etc.), but without solving the showstoppers I'll first look on.
@moderators: could I please get permission to post to that thread (this one), it's kind of frustrating that I have real input here which could help making these ROMs better, but I have no way of providing my feedback (just because I don't have 10 posts yet). Thanks!
To be updated....
Cheers

UPDATE:
been using this one FroYo | Mdj Droid L2.1.110210 | with HTC Sense | Base 3.18.751.2 | App2SD+ for a bit more than a week now, without issues. It's quite similar to a stock HTC Sense Froyo ROM from a looks/functionality point of view.
When I find the time though, I plan to make an own ROM, mainly inspired by YogenTouch but without social apps (a bit like nYT) but with more languages.

Hey Penguin,
Nice of you to join us
But before you post such thread, think about the real contribution, not that it isn't appreciated, but you're mixing apples and oranges here, comparing Sense and nonSense ROMS, Eclair with Froyo...
It would be nice to clear what's what first ...
Oh and by the way B0.7 wifi works just fine for me...

Agree about the frustration not being able to contribute to the development forum. There's a few things I've learned along the way and there have been a couple of occasions where I reckon I could have helped a poster.
To add my 20c worth, I'm really happy with BlaYo's ROM, everything works the way it should and there's some cool stuff which brings it to another level - I'm especially liking the extra battery life I'm getting with his kernel and SetCPU.
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It should not be a biggie, right? You're just 7 posts away

Hey you're right, I should stay positive... 6 now...

Thanks for your welcome;-)
I guess what got me to try that YogenTouch was that it said "espresso 2.2" on the package, which suggested froyo. Anyway, it is mainly the graphics design which appeals to me. (speed might be higher, though I'm quite ok with FroYo too.)
I guess I'll have another go at B0.7, wait for 0.8 or bake my own (though too busy lately)
oh,btw, about the apples and oranges... that was actually intended, because it is actually the first thing anyone new to android and without having experienced the freedom of a rooted phone before would want to try. (which "style" is best for me, sense, stock, clean, tweaks, ...)
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nDAF 1.7.5
It's been a while...
Ok, I have gone to BlaY0 0.7 since, which I'm positive about.
Then I noticed Blay0's mention of nDAF in the B 0.7 thread, just what I was looking for. (I like anti-social android )
So I've been a happy nDAF 1.7.5 user for 3 weeks now, I can highly recommend it!
Just recently discovered 1 glitch: account sync doesn't seem to do anything! Pressing the button "sync all" has no effect whatsoever. Logcat doesn't seem to output anything related either. Going to my google account and pressing "sync now" also does nothing.
Any ideas?

The account sync problem went away by itself. (I had wiped cache and rebooted before without effect, but it seems the problem went away after my last reboot, though I didn't do anything special)
I guess I'll remain happy with nDAF until I find time to make my own ROM (or if B 0.8 will have very compelling reasons)
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b.0.7 seems great... u have to flash the patch for wifi issues....
right now i'm on cm7 rc4 and experiencing a new world on legend... but for daily use b.0.7 is a nice choice from my point of view...
and if u want a sense-free froyo rom superbler is the best choice

Long due update:
Thumbs up for BlaY0's 0.8.4!
Did a clean install (wiped all and got a new sd card while at it, with ext partition according to BlaY0's partitioning guide for a2sd) and restored with titanium backup).
I'm getting better battery life (1 long day and still around 30% left with normal use).
Had to use the wifi patch to make wireless work (and stock font patch for comfortable reading).
Highly recommended! Thanks to BlaY0 for the ROM and Ogo2 for his useful mods!
Cheers
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Battle of the roms!

Which rom is the best?
I like cyanogen, but very much so love my Htc Radio(limited data plan so.....), which one do you use and why?...
(currently cm7)
Also, on cm7 sometimes my bars are green, sometimes white, what does that mean? (any where I can get more specific info on gingerbread?)
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they are white when the connection is not ready yet.

ValkyrieLiberty said:
Which rom is the best?
I like cyanogen, but very much so love my Htc Radio(limited data plan so.....), which one do you use and why?...
(currently cm7)
Also, on cm7 sometimes my bars are green, sometimes white, what does that mean? (any where I can get more specific info on gingerbread?)
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There is no one ROM that fits everyone.
There are advantages (and disadvantages) to each.
My opinions, below...
CM7
Advantages:
Latest Android version (2.3.3)
Closer to a generic Android build
Customizable overclocking built in
Very configurable - many options
Built-in features like power bar, line-item clear for alerts, etc.)
Perceived to be faster than 2.2
Better built-in app information and system information support (But I think this is more OS than a specific ROM).
Disadvantages:
No Sense UI - so you won't have an "HTC" experience"
No FM Radio
No Sense Widgets (e.g., FriendStream, Agenda)
Wonky WiFi (sometimes won't reconnect, can't see hidden networks, etc.)
Liberated FR008
Advantages:
Sense experience
FM Radio
HTC Sense Widgets without need for 3rd party apps
Pretty solid WiFi
Can be overclocked (but with 3rd party app)
Disadvantages:
WiFi sometimes wonky, but not nearly as bad as CM7
Not the latest Android release (only 2.2)
Not nearly as customizable as CM7
In the end, for me the choice has come down to whether or not I like Sense, which I do. I also like the FM radio and sorta solid WiFi. I find Sense and FR008 speedy enough for my uses.
For others, maybe not...
Again, just my two cents...
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ValkyrieLiberty said:
Which rom is the best?
I like cyanogen, but very much so love my Htc Radio(limited data plan so.....), which one do you use and why?...
(currently cm7)
Also, on cm7 sometimes my bars are green, sometimes white, what does that mean? (any where I can get more specific info on gingerbread?)
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I believe the color coding on the signal strength meter / wifi strength meter indicates connection (color based on theme) to google servers or lack of said connection (white).
I am using CM7 (currently nightly 11) due to the increased customization options. I tend to like to tinker with stuff, and this gives me the most options. I'm not particularly a fan of HTC sense, so I don't really miss it. Last time I swapped back to a sense rom, I ended up putting an aftermarket launcher on it to get the homescreen customizations I wanted, so I didn't have the one or 2 sense widgets I liked anyway. After that, I decided CM was the way to go, and have been on 7 since the early nightlies, with the exception of a couple weeks ago for a few days. Also, CM7 has a handy feature called phone goggles, which, had I had the foresight to use it last weekend, might have saved me from having to explain a couple of embarassing texts, sent during a state of significant inebriation, to my wife

Some differences in addition to the ones that DanGeorges listed:
CM7 (as well as CM6):
-Contacts display more information that are stored in Google account contacts (i.e. CM's contacts app display the "Phonetic name" field and customized email field names that you have for your Gmail contacts, whereas HTC Sense's contacts app only displays some basic fields)
HTC Sense (Liberated FR008 or any other Sense roms):
-Has a proprietary "Flash Lite" that lets you play flash video from browsers and the Facebook app directly; while you can also play flash video on CM roms, you have to use the Skyfire browser and can be a hassle sometimes.

CM and Sense email clients are quite different - - - one of the items that keeps pulling me back to Sense.

I thought FR008 was great, but for me it had the same serious fault as all the other previous Android ROMs, no voice dialing over bluetooth.
Since I ride a motorcycle as my primary transportation both for business & pleasure, a bluetooth helmet with voice dial is a must have. That makes CM7 an easy winner for me.

Nutshell69 said:
CM and Sense email clients are quite different - - - one of the items that keeps pulling me back to Sense.
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Yes -
CM7's has the advantage of a unified inbox. But no pinch-to-zoom
Sense has pinch to zoom.
My solution:
install the CM7 email client into Sense and I have both running.
Dan

cHarley04 said:
I thought FR008 was great, but for me it had the same serious fault as all the other previous Android ROMs, no voice dialing over bluetooth.
Since I ride a motorcycle as my primary transportation both for business & pleasure, a bluetooth helmet with voice dial is a must have. That makes CM7 an easy winner for me.
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Gene Poole's "liberated 2.2.2" has the voice dialling in a sense/froyo rom.
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bunky213 said:
Gene Poole's "liberated 2.2.2" has the voice dialling in a sense/froyo rom.
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Are you sure it's Voice Dialing over Bluetooth? Froyo had voice dialing, but not over bluetooth.

CyanogenMod 7 hands down.

cHarley04 said:
Are you sure it's Voice Dialing over Bluetooth? Froyo had voice dialing, but not over bluetooth.
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Definitely, used it a bunch yesterday while I was bottle feeding my son (both hands occupied, phone on table, could only get a finger free to hit button on bluetooth headset)
Worked better than anticipated!
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Look for a new truly "liberated" version later tonight or tomorrow. It'll have bloatware removed, apn.xml for wifi/usb tethering (without AT$T's surcharge), native sideloading, OC kernel and more. One thing I'm trying my damnedest at right now is disabling that horrible AT$T drop-down over the taskbar.

What exactly is phone goggles?
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What exactly is phone goggles?
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Similar to google's email goggles, when enabled it requires you to do simple tasks (math problems, etc.) Before allowing you to call/text.
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Similar to google's email goggles, when enabled it requires you to do simple tasks (math problems, etc.) Before allowing you to call/text.
Lol, seems pointless. But ok, lol
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Gene Poole said:
Look for a new truly "liberated" version later tonight or tomorrow. It'll have bloatware removed, apn.xml for wifi/usb tethering (without AT$T's surcharge), native sideloading, OC kernel and more. One thing I'm trying my damnedest at right now is disabling that horrible AT$T drop-down over the taskbar.
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awesome! looking forward to it!
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Gene Poole said:
Look for a new truly "liberated" version later tonight or tomorrow. It'll have bloatware removed, apn.xml for wifi/usb tethering (without AT$T's surcharge), native sideloading, OC kernel and more. One thing I'm trying my damnedest at right now is disabling that horrible AT$T drop-down over the taskbar.
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Sounds cool!
What are the advantages to this version over Liberated FR008?
And what does the at&t overlay look like? I'm curious...
Thanks for doing this Gene.

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if you are intoxicated, it has a reasonable chance of stopping you from calling/texting someone you shouldn't (like an ex) by:
1) making it difficult for a drunk person to actually accomplish the task and
2) hopefully making you think twice about what you are doing
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Cyanogenmod...because its the rom of the gods.
(And as far as the radio, give it time. I've been running cm since Aug of last year and at this point I have completely forgotten about the fm radio until it gets brought up on here. I loved it for the two weeks I had it, but I quickly got over it by just getting a bigger sd card and putting a few gigs of music on my phone)
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Mytouch3g best rom?

Whats the best rom to put on mytouch 3g for my fiancee, any input is helpful..
all I have to do is flash a sapp.sbf??
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its sapp.nbh, but that's for "un-rooting" your MT3G.
"Best" is pretty subjective. I am constantly changing mine around, but the ones I have like most are:
1.6 Donut ROM: SUPER D
2.2 Froyo ROM: TheOfficial D/S (had this on my phone for maybe 2 months without issue)
2.3 Gingerbread ROM: I am currently using GingerYoshi 1.1, and just downloaded 1.2 so can't comment yet. with 1.1, I noticed these problems: GPS sometimes doesn't connect..at all. i have to go into google maps first if i want my location to show up...if i go into google navigation first, i have to leave that app and go to maps then into nav. Also...the damn ROM doesnt give you voice to text like the others do. It says "This device doesnt support this feature" when the 2.2/Froyo roms do.
All in all...if she doesnt like to tinker with her phone and she just wants it to work, I would use TheOfficial D/S from enomther. It's Froyo, but EVERYTHING just works...and it works well.
hopefully that helps.

I have had a mytouch 3g since 2009 when it came out and have used it since earlier this year when I bought a nexus one second hand for very cheap. Here's what I think...
1.6 - Donut. Super D. Definitely the best Donut Rom. I like the newer versions but this ROM was definitely fast.
2.2 - Froyo. Official AOSP. I used this for about a year or more with minimal issues. It did everything I wanted with occasional lag (but that was just me putting too many widgets =P)
2.3 - Gingerbread. I had Gingeryoshi 1.1 for awhile with some issues. The GPS messes up sometimes in that the screen went "fuzzy" but all I had to do was restart it. You have to get Ghostly SMS so you receive all text messages since gingerbread on a low memory device has issues receiving text messages. Battery life was better in my opinion. I upgraded to 1.2 shortly before I bought my N1.
As you can see my answer is very similar to the previous post which says a lot about those three ROMS.
I never had much success with the CM roms on the mt3g. It seems to lag way too much even with Auto Memory Manager and other apps just like it. I liked gingeryoshi the best... once you get over some of the bugs you come to realize it's gingerbread on the mytouch 3g which is freakin cool! My mom uses my old mt now with gingeryoshi 1.2 and loves it.