I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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There are a lot of opinions about this subject. There are some real pro's to CM6. The tricky thing for most people to understand is that Cyanogenmod is built from the ground up. So when you say you want something that isn't too different, this is going to probably be more unique than you were expecting.
Some great things about CM6 are hidden all throughout the settings, menus, and functions. For example, CM6 is alot cleaner. There aren't any processes that run in the background that you never installed. Whenever you use a stock rom, HTC and Sprint have a number of pre-installed items running. The result is that it is faster.
One huge advantage for me is that CM6 fixes the bluetooth in the phone. Which means that you can connect a Wiimote. This isn't possible with anything that is a variation of the stock rom. Which means only CM6 or other AOSP roms will be capable of supporting the Wiimote on the Evo.
The Cyanogen team has put more focus into things like the way the audio is processed. They use DSP managers to fine tune your audio.
There are some unique settings you can use as well. For example, by holding the back button, you kill whatever app is in the foreground. This eliminates the need for task killers, and lets you truly close an app when you want to.
The biggest pro for most people is that it is substantially faster. This makes games, and other resource heavy apps run smoother. If you use something like PSX4DROID (a playstation emulator), I would recommend this rom because you can use the Wii Controller, and the games will run smoother.
Overall, it's an engineering marvel, because it's built completely by open source developers. These are guys that all have day jobs and do this as a hobby, and in many ways, they do a better job than Google and HTC who have armies of full time developers. That's why they get so much support. Is because it's truly astounding what they do with their resources.
So this might be the blind leading the blind, but I'm a noob as well when it comes to ROM flashing stuff.. From what little you have mentioned CM6 isn't what you want. CM6 is very good but it is not SenseUI, by default it does not have swype, it does not do 4g, hdmi is not there and I'm sure there are other things... That being said, from what I have read, CM is very good for what it is...
If you want to stay relatively stock but with some tweaks, you likely want to look at Fresh or Myn.. do a search in the XDA evo-->android dev forum (actually usually the main thread for those 2 are on page 1 or 2)..
I have settled on Fresh because it uses the latest Sprint rom as its basis so you get most of the new stuff out of the box ie. swype.
Myn has a beta out there using the new rom, but I don't know where it is to download and I am not a good beta tester so I will just wait..
From a process perspective, I downloaded Rom manager from the Marketplace, flashed the latest Clockwork recovery and used the rom manager to download fresh and let it install it for me.. Be sure to check mark the clean everything checkbox in rom manager when it asks..
Hope that helps...
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I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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I think I'm gonna go with Cm6 just bc it seems like they have plenty of features. But what do u mean not hdmi? Like not even pictures and videos?
Also can someone give me a link to how to install them.. Thanks
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bradleyw801 already did a good job of the Pros, so I'll list the Cons of CM6 (there aren't many):
1. It's the hardest of the ROMs to flash. Reads laughable but to someone who is really new to this whole thing, it's true. Most ROMs you can just flash and tryout. CM6 you need to flash twice: once for CM itself and once for the Google Apps (it's pretty useless without the gapps). ROM Manager makes this pretty painless with a simple checkbox, so follow above advice, but still be aware you need GAPPS.
2. No 4G Support. Yet. That's the keyword, as there are a few devs on this very forum who are runningCM with 4G .... it's just in alpha stages.
3. No HDMI Support. Yet. Again keyword ... but less so. HDMI out is one of those things you hear about every so often but nothing ever surfaces from it. It's like Duke Nukem Forever.
4. For all the Sense bashing that some will do, HTC had some very nice widgets that most people miss when they go to CM. Most notable is the big clock widget. Now there are market apps that emulate it, but the only ones that do a good job of it cost money (beautiful widgets and fancy widgets pro). Be ready to look for apps to replace what came shipped with your EVO if there are some things you like and would rather not be without.
Hope that helps.
Ok now Cm6 doesn't sound great. I actually use my hdmi, are there any roms easy to flash.. i just want one that makes my phone smoother and also so unneeded apps don't run in the background?
Bc mine now is getting slow like when I open my messeges and are going from person to person it takes forever. Thanks again
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I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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Well, now that you are rooted it would be a perfect time to get used to making backups and flashing.
You could try making a nand bacckup and flashing CM6(.1.2) and seeing how well it suits you. Like any (or most) ROMs there are themes and you can mess around with different things to make it more to your liking. CM6 is as stock Android as you can get. I don't necessarily dislike Sense, and some of the Sense widgets are really cool (and are for the most part replaceable) but in the end I like the feeling of just plain Android.
The lack of 4G and HDMI out is more of a personal user thing. I haven't missed my 4G and I've been using CM6 for my Evo for almost the whole damn time, since it was first released that is. HDMI never really interested me before, but full UI out is something else entirely. Before it was just hype to me.
CyanogenMod just feels right on the Evo. Best way to decide is to take the plunge and maybe set it up for a day. Restoring a backup is super simple. Take the necessary steps to flash successfully and check it out.
And as for things being deleted off the SD card; not sure if you mean everything or specific things. Things like SMS, call logs etc are not backed up but YOU can back them up in various manners. Some SMS backup apps or what have you which I've never tried. Call log I assume as well. Email and things like that, which are tied to your Google Account are backed up by "The Cloud" or whatever you want to say, and same goes for contacts if you've obviously synced them with your google account. Like, contacts under phone can be synced with google account that way the phone contacts aren't deleted, unless I have that last part wrong.
You can wipe the SD card completely, but that doesn't really happen when you wipe data, cache and dalvik. Just the important stuff so the ROM takes. Check it!
edit: didn't hit submit right away, late post as it seems your not really feeling it. you can remove bloat apps that you don't see fit in ROMs, things that someone might have not removed themselves (even then removed apps are usually available at your discretion) but not all apps can be removed. There are lists about that have "safe to remove apps" and the like.
try it for yourself, if it doesn't do what you need it to, flash another ROM. pretty much any AOSP based ROM has issues with wimax and HDMI but there are many strong ROM's to run, you will probably change it up from time to time and the hardest thing you will find is trying not to flash
You really should try out roms for yourself instead of listening to others. Some people like some things and others like others. I've run CM on 2 phones now (MyTouch Slide and G2) and it's been extremely stable, fast and just fantastic. If it had wimax and hdmi working i'd have it right now (I like watching hulu on my big screen while I eat ).
If you want something that has everything working, myn's warm twopointtwo rom works if you have the older Evo hardware (pre-0004). It's very nice and still runs sense or mikfroyo, which also has sense, but it supports the new evos.
If you want vanilla android and can wait for the wimax and hdmi, get CM, there's just no alternatives. If you can't wait, go to the dev section and look for the threads that start with [rom] and see if any of them suit you better.
Fwiw...I'm a total noob to the android scene. I'm fairly tech savvy, good in general with pc's, hacking tivo's, etc..nonetheless I was very hesitant to root and flash my evo. But, I took three plunge last night, first rooting, then performing a nand backup. I then uninstalled all the sprint apps successfully. I was fairly happy at this point.but I have been experiencing random reboots and sense crashes prior to rooting. So I took the plunge and flashed cm6.1 and gapps last night.
I have to say I wish I had to done this months ago, I love the look, feel,and performance of cm / stock android. I struggled with battery life before flashing, but there is a significant improvement in batt life since ive flashed. I also installed swype beta,as I had received an invite just prior to sprint including swype. Im bummed about the lack of 4g, but 4g is hit and miss in the south bay so I cant complain too much. Oh ya, wifi tether is an added bonus.
I say go for it. ;-)
Well the biggest con is that you can't use 4g or hdmi, which defeats the purpose of buying the evo and paying $10 fee for 4g. Not to mention the fact that stock android looks like a 3rd rate Linux distro from early 2000s.
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so me running cm6 defeats the purpose of me owning my phone????
I dont live in a 4g area......4g is only really advantage when tethering to a laptop
Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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Sure. First sticky at the top of the forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
The stickies are pretty comprehensive for the EVO. Pretty much anything you'll want to know will be there.
As for CM6. It's super fast. I love it. I don't mind being without 4G (at least when I'm not testing ) and HDMI (I use Twonky Media Server to stream pics and vids to my Xbox over wifi).
Both of these features are coming soon so if you decide to go with another ROM, just keep following CM for updates on these features. When they are done I don't see why you wouldn't use CM.
As for alternative roms... I know Myns is very popular.
Also, I'll note, you can always flash CM6 and play with it for a bit and then wipe and flash any other rom.
tl;dr - Read the sticky, try myns and follow CM progress.
You might want to take a look at MIUI. It's well designed (unlike Sense), is pretty fast (faster than Sense), and has a ton of extra features (like Sense). While it doesn't have WiMax right now the CM guys are close to getting it working; and since both are based on AOSP, it will be relatively easy to port to MIUI. I prefer CM but if I didn't have a iPhone (since MIUI tends to feel like a copy of it) I'd probably use MIUI.
If you can live without 4g then go for it. The battery life is great. I flashed a sense rom today and with in an hour I was flashing back to cm6.
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Ok thanks now one last question I think... when I do nandroid backup does it save my apps? Bc i was watching a video it said u have to nandroid backup and apps with titanium I think...
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bottom line: try a few ROMs, each for a day, and stick with what you like. no substitute for trying it out yourself.
fine print: i'm a vintage user. I was running android on my Vogue before there was an android phone, when GPS would always place you in san fransisco (someone will know what that's all about - thanks dzo). anyways, having a rooted phone is about many things, but one of them is the ability to flash and try what you want.
if you've got a deal breaker, like 4g or HDMI out, sure that limits you now, but as posted before keep reading and trying new things as they come out. if you're lucky, you may yet become a flash-aholic.
i'm a sense guy; not for the launcher (off and on i'm running adw, lp, and sense home, depends on the month), but for the sense apps. I love the sense messaging app, that's the program I use most on my phone. I ran vanilla for a long time on my vogue, and I tried out CM6 for a day. it's just not me. and I never use 4G or HDMI. you won't know what fits you until you try, though.
to each their own. use what you like.
I use to be a die hard CM fan but now Im using MIUI. Both have a lot of nice features.
Titanium Backup will allow you to backup apps selectively and then reinstall them later. (you can do many other things as well) This is very useful, especially for apps that you can not easily obtain. (ie. not available in the app store) An example is any game from GameLoft or a beta that you may have. (like Swype before it was deployed) So after you switch to CM6 or whichever ROM you can then load these apps on to the new ROM.
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what is the best rom for the MT3G right now.
I tried cyanogen 3.9.11.2 and seems like it has intermitant problems unlocking the screen were it will blink horizontal lines and then after a few times then unlock fine. Seems to happen more with the device when it is warm
I have also tried both v1.3 jacxrom builds and the full v3 hero and works fine when first booted but when I lock the screen and unlock it looks like the screen is overlayed with another copy of itself but a little to the right. Almost taking one verticle line of pixels and switching it wiht the row next to it in pairs al the way across the screen. Any ideas on which one I should be running.
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what is the best rom for the MT3G right now.
I tried cyanogen 3.9.11.2 and seems like it has intermitant problems unlocking the screen were it will blink horizontal lines and then after a few times then unlock fine. Seems to happen more with the device when it is warm
I have also tried both v1.3 jacxrom builds and the full v3 hero and works fine when first booted but when I lock the screen and unlock it looks like the screen is overlayed with another copy of itself but a little to the right. Almost taking one verticle line of pixels and switching it wiht the row next to it in pairs al the way across the screen. Any ideas on which one I should be running.
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The new Cyanogen 4.1 that just came out is absolutely amazing. I just flashed it over on my MT3G today and have had no troubles. It's a must have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204 Link to the Cyanogen 4.01
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The new Cyanogen 4.1 that just came out is absolutely amazing. I just flashed it over on my MT3G today and have had no troubles. It's a must have.
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Do you have all the tmobile apps that came with the mytouch (myfaves etc...)
Im still trying to decide whether or not to root. I have rooted "jailbroken" my iphone. Is rooting give you the same benefit as jailbraking? I mainly used the jailbreak for denied apps from the app store, themes, and tethering. Tethering is not so important (unless I'm traveling haha)
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Do you have all the tmobile apps that came with the mytouch (myfaves etc...)
Im still trying to decide whether or not to root. I have rooted "jailbroken" my iphone. Is rooting give you the same benefit as jailbraking? I mainly used the jailbreak for denied apps from the app store, themes, and tethering. Tethering is not so important (unless I'm traveling haha)
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Same idea and then some. Cyan does not include myFaves in his builds but it can be added. Check the G1 forum where he posts his ROMS. I saw a post about it the other day but can't remember where. Search. When in doubt, ROOOOOOT!!! No other way to use Android IMO.
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Same idea and then some. Cyan does not include myFaves in his builds but it can be added. Check the G1 forum where he posts his ROMS. I saw a post about it the other day but can't remember where. Search. When in doubt, ROOOOOOT!!! No other way to use Android IMO.
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So the myfaves app that came with my mytouch ("Magic" I like that name so much better btw mytouch sounds so girly) can't be pushed to me by tmobile. I happened to me once where it completely disappeared from my phone and cs refreshed my myfaves and i got it within 5 min. I guess its not a big deal if I can download it. How about the other apps like youtube, android market; will they work as they would on a non rooted mytouch?
The main thing stopping me from rooting is that I can't return it to the original factory state like I could for my iphone. Not sure how stuff works on android (im still a noob with this OS) but on the iphone it wasn't a big deal to jailbreak as it just modifies just a small part of the OS to allow non apple approved apps/themes etc... but with this its like it flashes a whole different OS. How about all the new updates like donut etc...that we will get ota. I guess the devs here will include all those features in their new ROMs (as they are doing now) so that is not such a big deal.
Thanks for the quick answer btw.
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So the myfaves app that came with my mytouch ("Magic" I like that name so much better btw mytouch sounds so girly) can't be pushed to me by tmobile. I happened to me once where it completely disappeared from my phone and cs refreshed my myfaves and i got it within 5 min. I guess its not a big deal if I can download it. How about the other apps like youtube, android market; will they work as they would on a non rooted mytouch?
The main thing stopping me from rooting is that I can't return it to the original factory state like I could for my iphone. Not sure how stuff works on android (im still a noob with this OS) but on the iphone it wasn't a big deal to jailbreak as it just modifies just a small part of the OS to allow non apple approved apps/themes etc... but with this its like it flashes a whole different OS. How about all the new updates like donut etc...that we will get ota. I guess the devs here will include all those features in their new ROMs (as they are doing now) so that is not such a big deal.
Thanks for the quick answer btw.
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Sorry for not answering your response as quickly as the first answer. I can't speak for the iPhone but the G1/myTouch (I have both) are a MUST root IMO. I think having total control over the phone and OS is so important. As far as Market, YouTube, etc. they all work. Every app works, as far as I am concerned and I have 225 apps (all paid for if they weren't free) installed. As far as updates are concerned, the devs here are months ahead of Google and TMO. Cyanogen (best ROMs here, IMO, if you aren't into Hero and things like that) already has some Donut stuff in his stable 4.0.1 ROM and adds quite a bit of cool features in his experimental ROMs. You can also add bits from other devs if Cyan doesn't include something you like. Cyan does not include myFaves (I forget why) but it can be added after. Just search around for that. Even without the app on your phone, you can always update them online and still make free calls to your faves. It just won't show on the phone, that is unless you have the "after market" app installed. Hope this helps. And like I said, root is absolutely the way to go. Nothing frightening. In fact, I feel more comfortable with tools like Nandroid built-in so I can always restore my phone if/when I mess something up or install and unstable ROM/theme. I flash almost daily for that reason.
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Sorry for not answering your response as quickly as the first answer. I can't speak for the iPhone but the G1/myTouch (I have both) are a MUST root IMO. I think having total control over the phone and OS is so important. As far as Market, YouTube, etc. they all work. Every app works, as far as I am concerned and I have 225 apps (all paid for if they weren't free) installed. As far as updates are concerned, the devs here are months ahead of Google and TMO. Cyanogen (best ROMs here, IMO, if you aren't into Hero and things like that) already has some Donut stuff in his stable 4.0.1 ROM and adds quite a bit of cool features in his experimental ROMs. You can also add bits from other devs if Cyan doesn't include something you like. Cyan does not include myFaves (I forget why) but it can be added after. Just search around for that. Even without the app on your phone, you can always update them online and still make free calls to your faves. It just won't show on the phone, that is unless you have the "after market" app installed. Hope this helps. And like I said, root is absolutely the way to go. Nothing frightening. In fact, I feel more comfortable with tools like Nandroid built-in so I can always restore my phone if/when I mess something up or install and unstable ROM/theme. I flash almost daily for that reason.
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wow dude you have been a lot of help, I feel a lot more about rooting now (wow you flash almost everyday haha awesome). I think I'm gonna try it tonight haha.
So I wont need to restore to the original shipped state if I ever need to do a warranty claim?
oh yeah so should I flash cyanogen 3.9.X.X or 4.0.1 ( I know 3.9.X.X has some donunt features but its experimental...but is it better?)
so far JACxHero is my fav rom
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so far JACxHero is my fav rom
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really is there a main/any difference between the 2?
i've used cyanogen and its amazing rom but i don't know if its me but JACxHero seems waay more smooth and faster...
and the crazy part is im using a class 2 sd i can only imagine using class 6
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i've used cyanogen and its amazing rom but i don't know if its me but JACxHero seems waay more smooth and faster...
and the crazy part is im using a class 2 sd i can only imagine using class 6
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So it looks like sense ui from the hero? I heard all those roms are slow due to the ram limitation on the mytouch (192mb) vs the hero (288mb)
btw I have a class 2 card too as of right now so that is good to know
JACxHero is not a hero port its a regular cupcake with hero type theme and htc music port try it out have nothing to lose really
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JACxHero is not a hero port its a regular cupcake with hero type theme and htc music port try it out have nothing to lose really
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Yeah I think I will since it is pretty safe to do (especially since aaronranter flashes everyday it has to be lol)
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Yeah I think I will since it is pretty safe to do (especially since aaronranter flashes everyday it has to be lol)
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i have too trust me i went through 8 roms already went right back to JACxHero
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i have too trust me i went through 8 roms already went right back to JACxHero
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WOW lol
So to flash it all I have to do it to do the 1 click root method and flash that rom? (not sure where to get it btw)
How about when i want to change roms what do I do?
do I do a nandroid backup every time i switch roms?
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WOW lol
So to flash it all I have to do it to do the 1 click root method and flash that rom? (not sure where to get it btw)
How about when i want to change roms what do I do?
do I do a nandroid backup every time i switch roms?
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I am a noob, but if you use search option you will find out that JacHero needs latest Radio and SPL which is 2005. One click method doesnt change it. I still have 2006, "perfect".
you can always use the old method just follow the instructions step by step don't feel discourage ... but you must and i repeat follow each step ... one... by ..one
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I am a noob, but if you use search option you will find out that JacHero needs latest Radio and SPL which is 2005. One click method doesnt change it. I still have 2006, "perfect".
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Ah thanks for the info. I think i'll flash with cyanogen's rom since I currently don't have another micro sd card to do the old method
So, I see Twitter is all buzzing about the developers putting AOSP on the Fascinate and I was hoping to see some discussion about it here but surprisingly....nothing.
Actually I have to admit, I was hoping to lurk around to learn some more about what this means for us. As a new Android owner, I believe this gives us the stock android experience that devices like the N1 and NS have but I'm not entirely sure.
So I'm just coming out and asking, is this the reason why so many people are excited? To get rid of Samsung's TW layer on top of Android or does this mean something more? Secondly, does this offer us a pathway to Froyo or Gingerbread or are we still dependent on Samsung releasing their version first?
Aosp is android open source project. Yes it is vanilla android. The reason there is no discussion on here about it is that it is not totally functional yet, from last I heard, 2 days ago. If you want to see the progress of this, you can go into irc and ask about it. Aosp is usually more streamlined because there is no custom skin over it, sense, tw, blur which usually slow the phone down. It offers more customization, you can look at other aosp roms on different phones to see what kind of customization it offers. And lastly, no it does not pave the way for froyo or gingerbread. The source has to be released from Google which it has been, (I think) but samsungs source is corrupted which really hinders our devs from really doing much and makes it much more difficult. The RIL, the thing that allows us to call, text, ect also is also a problem. I hope this clarifies some things for you and I am still learning things everyday and if I have anything wrong, please feel free to correct me.
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So I'm just coming out and asking, is this the reason why so many people are excited? To get rid of Samsung's TW layer on top of Android or does this mean something more? Secondly, does this offer us a pathway to Froyo or Gingerbread or are we still dependent on Samsung releasing their version first?
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The alpha build was just "released" here today or last night. It's still buggy, but functional enough for basic use. It will make it somewhat easier to get AOSP Froyo/Gingerbread working, but it will still be difficult to get either on our phones without Samsung releasing either of them first to lay the initial groundwork for them.
Jt has made his own RIL for the aosp build, so I think this does help with froyo a bit.
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Jt has made his own RIL for the aosp build, so I think this does help with froyo a bit.
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Thanks guys. I had read the he was making his own RIL, which seemed like you would only do if you wanted to make yourself independent from Samsung in the future.
This is my first Android and I REALLY like it compared to my previous smartphone, the BB Storm 1. However, like the Storm, Samsung's inability to produce a timely Froyo build feels like Deja Vu all over again.
I've played with TW, Sense and Stock Android and maybe it's just me but honestly, they are all pretty similar. I know that some here will vehemently disagree but all of them just let me do what I need to do, run apps, write e-mails and make calls. Truthfully, it seems absurd for these manufacturers to even write these silly custom UI's at all but they seem to think that this provides some sort of value added differentiation.
The only 2 things that bother me about my phone, the occasional freezes where the hardware buttons are lit but don't respond and then all of a sudden all the touches that I made that didn't do anything at first, start to fire off rapidly. Secondly, not being able to upgrade to apps that are coming out that require Froyo.
Full disclosure, I would have said GPS performance but that was fixed here with DJ05 and JT's 12/12 Non-Voodoo Kernel.
Well, I think the only thing that scared me away from running the AOSP rom was the list of bugs that seemed to indicate that inbound phone calls don't always work and lack of BT. While I know I can try it out and return, I hate having to restore all those apps and data settings with Titanium, not to mention the potential for a late night in IRC in case things go south!!
I was really excited to see this and loaded it up as soon as I could. It looked great, I would have kept it on regardless of the bugs, but for some reason my home button stopped working and sms functionality was sporadic at best.
I can't wait to try it again when it is finished.
Gotta say, major props to JT, birdman and others. Only reason for me wanting froyo now that i have DJ05 is HID support, which most likely won't come until CM comes around, so i'll wait on installing this, especially since they don't need bug report yet. But its nice to see progress on the playing field, especially when its progress that the community has taken into their own hands.
Thanks for all the hard work.
^this. Cant wait until its fully stable/all features working properly. JT is truly awesome at his craft!
I'm running it right now as we speak pretty stable for me, my new daily driver
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Also running this. Really awesome! Can't believe how hard you guys work on this phone. Keep it up
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working okay for me. keep up the good work
Working good for me as well.
Noticed there is no task manager as well as the backup to reload contacts. Guess it's manual input of those again....not so bad since it is the 20th time doing it. Just a nice waste of time.
Glad you posted this thread. It clears up some questions I had too. I've been in computing since 1980 and it seems like the more time passes, the more unfriendly people are about sharing tech knowledge. Android has been one of the most difficult pieces of tech for me to find solid CONCRETE answers about. You have to piece things together from hundreds of websites and hope the consensus is accurate and not a stream of cut and paste work. Especially with android purporting to be open, you'd think there'd be a lot more energy to encourage more folks to develop for it, but it almost seems exactly the opposite.
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Anyone else having problems with their ringtones with this? Mine aren't playing at all. I just hear a short tweet sound at the beginning then silence
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bwheelies,
Does importing them from SD card work?
Google contact sync works fine (even fixes the duplicate contact bug that touchwiz has). I think he was referring to backup assistant (which is of course missing from this rom )
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Does anyone else get an instant FC on the Facebook for Android app? I was looking forward to using the app's built-in and far-superior to TouchWiz Facebook contact sync. Thing is, it just won't open after a fresh install. The only way I can get the app to open is if I restore a TB backup of Facebook taken from DJ05... which automatically keeps the built-in contact sync disabled.
bwheelies, as far as contacts go, it its probably worth your effort to put them into your google contacts now that you are entering them anyway... Just click Contacts in gmail (on your computer)and go to town, you will thank me later. Well, maybe not, but it its a handy time saver for synching contacts in the future
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
+1 for contacts synced with google lol
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bwheelies,
Does importing them from SD card work?
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That is what I did. Now to sync with Google.
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Hi there,
After managing to root my recent Legend (HBOOT 1.01 / OTA 2.2) using Blay0's manual I started trying...
Cyanogen 6.1: too "Gothic" for me (might be because it's my first Android phone and I kinda got hooked to sense / clean looks) Seems to be very tweakable though...
B 0.7: WiFi didn't work (sort of known issue which is mentioned there, but I didn't try the proposed solution, since I wanted to try other ROMs first
Modaco r4: ok, nothing special
YogenTouch: most beautiful and smooth one around, though 2 showstoppers for me: no choice of standard languages (especially chinese pinyin input) and G-sensor doesn't work [EDIT 2011-02-20: apparently a patch was released to make the G-sensor work]. Actually when I read about nu4a-yt1 I liked the feature set even more (get rid of facebook crap etc.), but without solving the showstoppers I'll first look on.
@moderators: could I please get permission to post to that thread (this one), it's kind of frustrating that I have real input here which could help making these ROMs better, but I have no way of providing my feedback (just because I don't have 10 posts yet). Thanks!
To be updated....
Cheers
UPDATE:
been using this one FroYo | Mdj Droid L2.1.110210 | with HTC Sense | Base 3.18.751.2 | App2SD+ for a bit more than a week now, without issues. It's quite similar to a stock HTC Sense Froyo ROM from a looks/functionality point of view.
When I find the time though, I plan to make an own ROM, mainly inspired by YogenTouch but without social apps (a bit like nYT) but with more languages.
Hey Penguin,
Nice of you to join us
But before you post such thread, think about the real contribution, not that it isn't appreciated, but you're mixing apples and oranges here, comparing Sense and nonSense ROMS, Eclair with Froyo...
It would be nice to clear what's what first ...
Oh and by the way B0.7 wifi works just fine for me...
Agree about the frustration not being able to contribute to the development forum. There's a few things I've learned along the way and there have been a couple of occasions where I reckon I could have helped a poster.
To add my 20c worth, I'm really happy with BlaYo's ROM, everything works the way it should and there's some cool stuff which brings it to another level - I'm especially liking the extra battery life I'm getting with his kernel and SetCPU.
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It should not be a biggie, right? You're just 7 posts away
Hey you're right, I should stay positive... 6 now...
Thanks for your welcome;-)
I guess what got me to try that YogenTouch was that it said "espresso 2.2" on the package, which suggested froyo. Anyway, it is mainly the graphics design which appeals to me. (speed might be higher, though I'm quite ok with FroYo too.)
I guess I'll have another go at B0.7, wait for 0.8 or bake my own (though too busy lately)
oh,btw, about the apples and oranges... that was actually intended, because it is actually the first thing anyone new to android and without having experienced the freedom of a rooted phone before would want to try. (which "style" is best for me, sense, stock, clean, tweaks, ...)
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nDAF 1.7.5
It's been a while...
Ok, I have gone to BlaY0 0.7 since, which I'm positive about.
Then I noticed Blay0's mention of nDAF in the B 0.7 thread, just what I was looking for. (I like anti-social android )
So I've been a happy nDAF 1.7.5 user for 3 weeks now, I can highly recommend it!
Just recently discovered 1 glitch: account sync doesn't seem to do anything! Pressing the button "sync all" has no effect whatsoever. Logcat doesn't seem to output anything related either. Going to my google account and pressing "sync now" also does nothing.
Any ideas?
The account sync problem went away by itself. (I had wiped cache and rebooted before without effect, but it seems the problem went away after my last reboot, though I didn't do anything special)
I guess I'll remain happy with nDAF until I find time to make my own ROM (or if B 0.8 will have very compelling reasons)
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b.0.7 seems great... u have to flash the patch for wifi issues....
right now i'm on cm7 rc4 and experiencing a new world on legend... but for daily use b.0.7 is a nice choice from my point of view...
and if u want a sense-free froyo rom superbler is the best choice
Long due update:
Thumbs up for BlaY0's 0.8.4!
Did a clean install (wiped all and got a new sd card while at it, with ext partition according to BlaY0's partitioning guide for a2sd) and restored with titanium backup).
I'm getting better battery life (1 long day and still around 30% left with normal use).
Had to use the wifi patch to make wireless work (and stock font patch for comfortable reading).
Highly recommended! Thanks to BlaY0 for the ROM and Ogo2 for his useful mods!
Cheers
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I'm new to the whole smartphone/android market. I just received a G2 and wanted to know how to fully take advantage of all the features. What do you guys recommend, what apps should I download, updates, etc.
Thanks
Take a look around, you'll find everything around here. One thing is don't feel pressured to root your phone. Especially with the ota update to gingerbread on it's way.
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Nospin said:
Take a look around, you'll find everything around here. One thing is don't feel pressured to root your phone. Especially with the ota update to gingerbread on it's way.
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Will do what is the benefit of rooting a phone. Do you get apps for free similar to jailbreaking?
Alright so here we go!
For root you want This Guide with Gefree/Visionary Read it several times, get root.
Install Rom Manager, Flash Clockwork Mod with this.
Good launchers to try are: Launcher Pro, ADW.
Good Apps are: GPS Status, Quadrant Free, Set Cpu (paid), Juice Defender, Adgree, Juice Plotter, SeePu, Shootme (for screengrabs), Wifi Analyser (to see strength of various wifi networks), Barcode Scanner (for QR Codes among others), Speetest, and lastly AdFree. You also should consider getting the Busybox Installer and Titanium Backup so you can back your applications up when you inevitably....
...Install a custom rom. There are a ton of roms to choose from. All of them have various merits and downsides. Personally for the beginner I always suggest CM 6.1.1 to get familiar with the idea of custom roms as it is super stable and not a huge departure from stock Froyo. A good rule of thumb when flashing roms is to (after making a nandroid backup in clockwork mod, accessed by pwr+vol down) always do a full wipe of phone data and cache. So many rom installs are messed up by not fully wiping your phone prior. I always run two full wipes and two cache wipes.
Depending on how you like your interface, you can select a ton of different roms through Rom Manager or downloading them right out of our android dev section. As with all things, always do your research. Read the damn thread to find out any bugs. The devs here are not infallible and frankly, some of them do a darn shoddy job in throwing together whatever the hell it is they want to call a rom over the weekend while absolutely trashed on Milwaukee's Beast.
Prospective roms are:
Virtuous 2.1: A clean SenseUI rom that is very predictable in battery life and sense experience.
Virtuous G-Free: A stripped down Gingerbread rom built by the same gentleman as Virtuous.
Virtuous 3.0 Sense: A sense 3.0 port that hasn't been updated in a while. Who knows if it is any good.
Cyanogen Mod 6: A nice retooling of froyo 2.2.x, this rom is incredibly stable and has very good battery life with preshoots kernel.
Cyanogen Mod 7: This is a retooling of Gingerbread 2.3.x, not as stable in my experience, however I know this will get better. Okay battery life, 7.0.3 is not as **** as 7.0. Wait till the next major update of 7.1 drops before flashing this rom.
I cannot speak for any of the other roms out here. I only say that you should always do your research and make sure to do nandroid backups. If you brick your phone, that really sucks cause the g2 kicks all sorts of ass
Edit; ROOT ACCESS MEANS ADMIN ACCESS. ROOT DRIVE MEANS THE BASE DIRECTORY OF YOUR SD CARD. DON'T **** IT UP OKAY.
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Will do what is the benefit of rooting a phone. Do you get apps for free similar to jailbreaking?
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One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.
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One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.
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You are totally a good example for others
I believe you will be successfull in rooting your coming DZ
Grtz
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One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.
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Btw their already is a rooted version of the final gingerbread rom. Just thought i'd throw that out there.
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IMO The best benefits to having a rooted device are
1) root-only apps like setcpu (but don't use this if the ROM/kernel has built-in cpu management), titanium backup (best backup app ever, hands down), themeing, etc
2) remove bloatware apps
3) custom ROM. think of it as a modified OS. they usually run faster, have little to no bloat, in most cases have better battery life, and have added functionality (cyanogenmod, especially)
without root, the best thing you can do is find great apps like home replacements aka launchers such as ADWLauncher (free version of the superior ADW Launcher EX), LauncherPro, etc
if you're new to Android you may not know that you can browse apps on your computer here https://market.android.com/ and whenever you click "install" it will automatically start downloading and installing on your phone!
a root method was mentioned previously, but I will have to recommend a different one considered to be the safest and most up to date by most.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
the whole wiki is a very good read. if you do root, read it thoroughly (multiple times if necessary) and learn how to join #g2root on IRC to get real-time chat support with other xda members
So rooting helps me have a device that has much better performance. Sounds great to me, I'll look into it.
Is there anyway to get free apps etc? Don't ever want to pay haha.
Also what other tips do you guys have to take advantage of a smartphone?
Word of advice: the xda forums heavily frown upon those who promote or even mention pirated apps. These forums are powered by developers who put in their time and effort for average-joe users like us to use, free of charge! Donations are encouraged when possible. If you spent hundreds of hours writing an app and working out the bugs, I don't think you'd like it if someone downloaded your paid app for free. I didn't mean for this to sound like a lecture but just think about it, and if you're still interested you'll have to look elsewhere, as distributing pirated apps is against the xda forum rules.
Also if you're new to smartphones, you probably realized with added functionality such as facebook, twitter, gmail, and syncing of EVERYTHING possible, your battery life not as good as before you had a smartphone. In general keep account syncing/internet usage below unnecessary levels to save on battery life, among other things
silverwind said:
You are totally a good example for others
I believe you will be successfull in rooting your coming DZ
Grtz
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Thanks I regularly try to do that with new phones so I don't have to ask a bunch of dumb questions or brick my phone.
And to xsteven77x (my multi-quote isn't behaving at the moment), I was not aware that a final GB rooted ROM was out... I thought they were only test ones. Would you mind posting a link to that?
EDIT: Is this the ROM you're talking about? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074852
It was leaked so how are they sure it's the final one?
If your going to root your phone and put a rom on it, HTCCLAY super cm7 v1.9 is my favorite. its smooth, lots of customization, and already has the set cpu thing built into it and had a good adjustable lockscreen. not to mention u can just keep putting new themes form theme chooser on it when u get bored instead of flashing a whole new rom. one prob with it though. it has trouble connecting sd card to computer so if and when u want to remove it you are going to have to restore to a previous back up of another rom or stock and then reapply the new rom. best of luck.
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If your going to root your phone and put a rom on it, HTCCLAY super cm7 v1.9 is my favorite. its smooth, lots of customization, and already has the set cpu thing built into it and had a good adjustable lockscreen. not to mention u can just keep putting new themes form theme chooser on it when u get bored instead of flashing a whole new rom. one prob with it though. it has trouble connecting sd card to computer so if and when u want to remove it you are going to have to restore to a previous back up of another rom or stock and then reapply the new rom. best of luck.
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Highly recommend meXdroid V4.1 rom. Fast, eye candy galore, and constant developer support and updating.
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Edit; ROOT ACCESS MEANS ADMIN ACCESS. ROOT DRIVE MEANS THE BASE DIRECTORY OF YOUR SD CARD. DON'T **** IT UP OKAY.
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This made me LMAO!
I like mexdroid rom, its combined with CM7 and it has a lot of customizations in it.
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I am recommending to watch Virtuous Unity if you want to have HTC Sense 3.0. It's still being updated and fixed up from all the bugs, but I think the rom will be really good after the devs work the kinks out.
I had been thinking of all those who are going to or already have gotten a new phone, but thanks to the development community still love their old Erii. I am going to eventually (as soon as I get a job) switch mine, but I really love my Eris and don't want to see it end up getting tossed out like it's garbage. So I had an idea for a super-light ROM that disables or deletes anything not need for being a fancy mp3 player (read Android version of an iPod Touch).
I had asked Workshed if he might want to do it, and he said he thinks it's a great idea. I think it should happen and so I am asking the rest of the devs to try.
It should :
Be as fast as possible.
Be super stable.
Have (baked in) the WiFi only script.
Be sexy.
If possible, be either ICS or ICS-themed. (optional but would be cool)
If there is a dev that feels like giving it a try, respond here and see what you can do.
I love you all here on XDA. But even more so the development community of the Eris. It's made the using of such an outdated phone bearable and, in fact, enjoyable.
a froyo rom like this was made a year ago.. im surprised nobody has made a gingerbread version.. and honestly for a device thats not a phone.. i could deal with froyo... 2.3 on my touch pro 2 runs so slow...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979808
I have made my own "music only" ROM based off GSB 4.5 that workshed just released.
basically, I just load the "wifi-only" script via init.d, and have stripped out everything not necessary. The only remaining annoyance is that the signal bars for the cell network still appear in the status bar, just grayed out and with an x over them... I'm trying to find a way to remove the signal bars entirely from the device, and then I will be happy.
Is it not possible to just remove them from systemui. In a sense just remove the actual PNG files.
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I'm using xtrROM, because I needed native wma support. I stripped everything I didn't need. I used zeam launcher and put only one screen to avoid the annoying auto scroll from the well known crappy track-ball problem. I underclocked it with setcpu, down to 256Hz with the screen off. Added wifi only script, and I can get about 6 days moderate use and 8 hours of continuous play. I think an mp3 rom is a good idea, but I have already got a good setup. WMA support is a must though.
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Futile post, I made a thread with the rom I released.
Called (ROM) Abridged for Music
I'll have to try that one once I get my new phone (soon so don't worry). If it's not fast, I suggest asking workshed for tips, since GSB has speed figured out. It should be really fast if the bloat gets removed, or at least easy to make faster. And as far as forgetting the script, don't worry. All devs forget something from time to time.
Also, if there are any devs working on ICS for the Eris, I would love one of them to try this out, as it could be a simpler "starter version" of their final work and be perfectly suited for this. After all, most ROMs start out really rough, with no working phone or some such problem. In this version, they wouldn't have to work all the major problems out, after all. All we want is to have no phone access, but WiFi. Not even Bluetooth.
However, I have to point out that this thread is for getting devs interested in the project. You should make your own thread for the result, so people can come to you and let you know of issues and suggestions.
Futile post, I made a thread with the rom I released.
Called (ROM) Abridged for Music
Super_Dork_42 said:
I'll have to try that one once I get my new phone (soon so don't worry). If it's not fast, I suggest asking workshed for tips, since GSB has speed figured out. It should be really fast if the bloat gets removed, or at least easy to make faster. And as far as forgetting the script, don't worry. All devs forget something from time to time.
Also, if there are any devs working on ICS for the Eris, I would love one of them to try this out, as it could be a simpler "starter version" of their final work and be perfectly suited for this. After all, most ROMs start out really rough, with no working phone or some such problem. In this version, they wouldn't have to work all the major problems out, after all. All we want is to have no phone access, but WiFi. Not even Bluetooth.
However, I have to point out that this thread is for getting devs interested in the project. You should make your own thread for the result, so people can come to you and let you know of issues and suggestions.
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I'd say leave Bluetooth, myself. There's a lot of Bluetooth pieces for streaming media and you won't have those stupid wires hanging out of your head ...
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I'd say leave Bluetooth, myself. There's a lot of Bluetooth pieces for streaming media and you won't have those stupid wires hanging out of your head ...
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Fair enough. I guess I was only thinking of headsets.
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I just wanted to pop in and say that preludedrew mentioned the following to me about a possible future addition to Evervolv...
preludedrew: oh btw, kinda on the same subject of your small builds
preludedrew: I Want to do a 'media' build
preludedrew: more or less, a build that can be used as a media player
preludedrew: goes through and disables all telephony except wifi
preludedrew: for people that have spare phones and want to use them as mp3 players.
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Not sure when one of us might get around to that but it's on our radar.
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I just wanted to pop in and say that preludedrew mentioned the following to me about a possible future addition to Evervolv...
Not sure when one of us might get around to that but it's on our radar.
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So regardless of now, this denote you gave might end all the controversy about this 'MP3' rom run. Very discreet of you and your team