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So,
Just compared most of the versions found here, before I start on my own work, I thought stuff it, do it. Here is the outcome:
XXJPM - Stock
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 994
OCLF - 1845
RAM - 114/304
XXJPK - Stock
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 1025
OCLF - 1917
RAM - N/A
Tayutama Edition v1.0.0 [I9000XXJPM] 14/10/2010
Lite
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 748
OCLF - Does not work
RAM - 139/304
Full
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 951
OCLF - 1830
RAM - 132/304
Doc's RomMod Froyo V1 (JP6-base / JPM-kernel) 13/10/10
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 875
OCLF - N/A
RAM - 113/304
Thanks for your work!
Doc's RomMod Froyo V1 (JP6-base / JPM-kernel) 13/10/10
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 875
A little lame, my voodoo'ed stock Eclair got sth. around 2000, gonna OCLF 2.2 now.
nitr8 said:
So,
Just compared most of the versions found here, before I start on my own work, I thought stuff it, do it. Here is the outcome:
XXJPM - Stock
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 994
OCLF - 1845
RAM - 114/304
XXJPK - Stock
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 1025
OCLF - 1917
RAM - N/A
Tayutama Edition v1.0.0 [I9000XXJPM] 14/10/2010
Lite
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 748
OCLF - Does not work
RAM - 139/304
Full
Quadrant Score:
Clean - 951
OCLF - 1830
RAM - 132/304
Doc's RomMod Froyo V1 (JP6-base / JPM-kernel) 13/10/10
Quadrant Score:
Clean - N/A
OCLF - N/A
RAM - 113/304
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Put in Sztupy's experimental ROM too the one that says NO RFS, its pretty good. I got a linpack 20+ & Quadrant 2000+ pre-rooted, NO LAGFIX.
ragin said:
Put in Sztupy's experimental ROM too the one that says NO RFS, its pretty good. I got a linpack 20+ & Quadrant 2000+ pre-rooted, NO LAGFIX.
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Sztupy's has an experimental lagfix included. (The lagfix is the whole point of the rom)
Vanilla JPA - Quadrant - 999
RAM - 113MB
RyanZA said:
Sztupy's has an experimental lagfix included. (The lagfix is the whole point of the rom)
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It's strange that we call the replacement of a filesystem "lagfix"
This obsession with Quadrant scores is stupid and very misleading. We already know that loop filesystems artificially inflate Quadrant scores even though the device isn't much faster (i.e. OCLF on top of Voodoo gives you 2500 Quadrant but performance isn't truly improved).
It can be useful for doing base comparisons, but it just ends up confusing everybody and perceverating about a number instead of actual performance in the real world and smoothness.
Personally I'm waiting for Voodoo b5.
I'm currently using Doc's Mod for JPM/JP6 and I got 1030 Quadrant with no lagfix. Not sure why the OP said it wouldn't run.
with the same rom, if you run the quadrant test several times, the score varies...
all froyos are scoring about 900 - 1050 without LagFix and 1800 - 2000 with lagfix
chambo622 said:
this obsession with quadrant scores is stupid and very misleading. We already know that loop filesystems artificially inflate quadrant scores even though the device isn't much faster (i.e. Oclf on top of voodoo gives you 2500 quadrant but performance isn't truly improved).
It can be useful for doing base comparisons, but it just ends up confusing everybody and perceverating about a number instead of actual performance in the real world and smoothness.
Personally i'm waiting for voodoo b5.
I'm currently using doc's mod for jpm/jp6 and i got 1030 quadrant with no lagfix. Not sure why the op said it wouldn't run.
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+10000000 :d
Imo none of these benchmarks are able to really rate the overall perfomance of the different firmwares...
Reminds me a bit of DirectX-Benchmarks, same show but different artists
chambo622 said:
This obsession with Quadrant scores is stupid and very misleading. We already know that loop filesystems artificially inflate Quadrant scores even though the device isn't much faster (i.e. OCLF on top of Voodoo gives you 2500 Quadrant but performance isn't truly improved).
It can be useful for doing base comparisons, but it just ends up confusing everybody and perceverating about a number instead of actual performance in the real world and smoothness.
Personally I'm waiting for Voodoo b5.
I'm currently using Doc's Mod for JPM/JP6 and I got 1030 Quadrant with no lagfix. Not sure why the OP said it wouldn't run.
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Well it actually does give what it says and it's no quadrant error. It's just that probably no app other than a badly coded touch wiz launcher will ever need a faster memory.
Try noticing differences on your system with a 5600RPM HDD and a 7200HDD.
You won't feel any difference and only benchmarking software will be able to tell.
However if it's possible (because rfs is a crappy file system) why not replace it?
It's like going from FAT32 to NTFS, it's there, it's better so why not use it?
^^ welcome after, there's like three mods trying to accomplish right now..
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post your official froyo / Gingerbread bechmarks here (without lagfix)
if you got upgrade via kies
Got jp6 trough norwegian kies
1020 is highest before lagfix
2015 is highest after oclf lagfix
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as I've noticed before, without lagfix on 2.1 the I/O check takes ages
but as compare,
2.1 without lagfix around 850
2.2 without lagfix around 1000
2.1 with lagfix around 2200
2.2 with lag fix, not tested yet, need to find a root
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as I've noticed before, without lagfix on 2.1 the I/O check takes ages
but as compare,
2.1 without lagfix around 850
2.2 without lagfix around 1000
2.1 with lagfix around 2200
2.2 with lag fix, not tested yet, need to find a root
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here is a root for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
OCLF only boost IO on Galaxy s : nexus 1 is still way faster in processor optimization test and this is what we need in galaxy s
dadyal said:
OCLF only boost IO on Galaxy s : nexus 1 is still way faster in processor optimization test and this is what we need in galaxy s
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Faster in real world performance or in synthetic benchmarks?
DarthV said:
Faster in real world performance or in synthetic benchmarks?
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I guess for using FPU intensive task, like Mathematical design, database, encoding video or MP3, file sharing and sugh... :|
For me, I use the phone for mostly GPU intense task, such as taking pictures/video, listening to video, gaming, browsing pictures, etc. so I asume that better gpu makes it better all around eh!
Kinda like being able to lift heavy wieght but doing a desk job I assume!
(BTW, sorry for the sarcasm )
2.2 without lagfix 1001
2.1
before: 854
after: 2273
Sorry guy for a stupid question but which app are you using for the benchmark test?
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Quadrant Standard banchmark - U can find it in market
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Thx for the app info! I got 1010
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t1mman said:
I guess for using FPU intensive task, like Mathematical design, database, encoding video or MP3, file sharing and sugh... :|
For me, I use the phone for mostly GPU intense task, such as taking pictures/video, listening to video, gaming, browsing pictures, etc. so I asume that better gpu makes it better all around eh!
Kinda like being able to lift heavy wieght but doing a desk job I assume!
(BTW, sorry for the sarcasm )
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So wouldn't benchmarks for your specific application be better than synthetic benchmarks suck as linpack and quadrant? The snapdragon CPU in the n1 is very very friendly with linpack (NEON + 128bit SIMD). I doubt that the hummingbird in our SGSs will ever score as high, but that doesn't mean that real performance is going to be worse. And well quadrant is pretty much a joke or at least how it weights cpu/gpu/io.
Maybe someone group will get a bunch of phones together and test things like gaming speed, web render times etc etc. That would be meaningful.
DarthV said:
So wouldn't benchmarks for your specific application be better than synthetic benchmarks suck as linpack and quadrant? The snapdragon CPU in the n1 is very very friendly with linpack (NEON + 128bit SIMD). I doubt that the hummingbird in our SGSs will ever score as high, but that doesn't mean that real performance is going to be worse. And well quadrant is pretty much a joke or at least how it weights cpu/gpu/io.
Maybe someone group will get a bunch of phones together and test things like gaming speed, web render times etc etc. That would be meaningful.
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you mean VFP? the Hummingbird is the one with the ARM Neon chip...
VFP is pretty much a floating point accelerator which is why benchmarks are so high on linpack which calculates floating points.
my score is 1034, was over 2000 before Froyo update
Lostja said:
my score is 1034, was over 2000 before Froyo update
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you got this update via kies ?
i flashed JPA and it go 970 - 1050
960 without
How to do the OCLF? It says "Unavailable" on everything...
Edit: got it fixed
1819 with
If everything shows unavailable check the following:
Phone is Rooted,
Ext2 tools installed,
BATTERY MUST BE MORE THAN 40%
last one is the one that most people dont check
Score was around 1008 with standard Froyo. (Kies update)
With root and lagfix i get around 1873.
With official Enclair and lagfix i could easily get 2200+ points.
970. not the best!
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If everything shows unavailable check the following:
Phone is Rooted,
Ext2 tools installed,
BATTERY MUST BE MORE THAN 40%
last one is the one that most people dont check
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Battery is more than 40%.
How do I root and install Ext2? (stupid question I know but I am new lol). I see it can root and install ext2 as well, but those are unavailable too.
Edit: *fixed* 1819 with lagfix
Ok so ive rooted this toy, flashed the 1.2ghz kernal and ran quadrant on it. I hit anywhere from 1080 to 1180. Have setcpu on demand at 800 min and 1200 max so why on earth is my rooted nook color running android 2.1 and a flashed 1100mhz kernal hitting wayyyy higher scores? (Around 1280) doesnt seem logical at all. Specially cause this is an actual tablet and thats just a rooted e reader. Did I do something wrong?
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Quadrant is a bad benchmark. It weights i/o far too heavily.
The Tabs RFS filesystems bring its Quadrant score way below where it should be, though in actual use it's very fast.
If you move to EXT4, your Quadrant scores will shoot up by around 80%.
Regards,
Dave
O sweet love of mary. 80% you say. Ok ive seen some posts redarding this ext4 thingymabob. Ill check it out. So if im understanding you correctly by changing to this my tab will perform even better than it does now? Or ill just see a genaric increase on this quadrant test that really means nothing? Sorry im noobish lol
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Well, my tab is currently on ext4 and my quadrant scores completely destroys my rfs score taken earlier.
However, that said, i don't really feel any performance improvements except the satisfaction knowing that my toy is now on an open and faster file system as opposed to a propriatory and slower one ;-)
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Ok so ive looked at some threads containing info but I see no post telling me how to do this magic. Could one of you nice, young, kindhearted souls link me to where I need to go to put this thing on my verizon cdma galaxy tab? Please and thank you sirs?
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Quadrant scores aren't as accurate as people think you know...
Sent from zombie infested Gingerbread.
There's an app called OCLF that will transparently add an EXT4 area on the RFS filesystem without needing to convert the whole thing to EXT4, giving you EXT4 IO performance in an easily installable and reversible way. Probably your best choice for trying it out. Otherwise, for the complete conversion, you could try this Modaco ROM/Kernel, which includes a complete conversion to EXT4.
As far as performance differences go, it makes a huge (10x) difference to the Quadrant IO score (measured before and after figures), but no measurable difference to actual performance (measured real-world usage figures). Some people claim to notice a subjective difference, but I never did.
Im using the modaco rom and kernel with ext4.
And it does make a huge difference. I get around 1800 in quadrant now.
conan1600 said:
Ok so ive looked at some threads containing info but I see no post telling me how to do this magic. Could one of you nice, young, kindhearted souls link me to where I need to go to put this thing on my verizon cdma galaxy tab? Please and thank you sirs?
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hi,
please be aware that the modaco kernel (rfs/ext4) will not work on CDMA Tabs.
from modaco kernel thread
This kernel is ONLY tested on a UK Galaxy Tab. It MAY work on other GSM Tabs, it almost certainly WON'T work on a CDMA Tab. If you have a non UK Tab and want to test (and know how to flash back to a regular version), then go ahead and report your results. At your own risk.
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regards,
mike
robertsydbrink said:
Im using the modaco rom and kernel with ext4.
And it does make a huge difference. I get around 1800 in quadrant now.
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That's the point!
It makes a huge difference in Quadrant, which is a synthetic benchmark, but far, far less difference in real world usage - hence it is a crap benchmark!
Pre-EXT4 my Tab would pull around 1000 in Quadrant, whereas my Desire HD would pull around 1800. However in real usage, they seem to perform pretty much the same which is not too surprising as they are similarly specified. On EXT4, my Tab pulls around 1800 now, but still performs much like my DHD.
I so wish people would stop bandying about Quadrant scores because they are meaningless.
Regards,
Dave
If you look at the scores in quadrant , they are split by colour so you can see how good the graphics capabilities are for example and compare to other phones. The colour codes are at the bottom of quadrant by the way
Linpack is a better benchmark. Not perfect, but better
Not really - Linpack only tests floating point performance.
Regards,
Dave
Wow, I started a heated discussion lol. Well ive downloaded the one click lag fix but have not applied the ext2 tools as yet. Want to do more reading about it first. Obviously I want my yab to be the best it can be but I surely dont want to make it genericly better at the expence of my video grafix as one user said he suffered in that thread.
More reserch required
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Taking Quadrant scores aside, when I made the switch from CF-Root to the Ext4 MCK, I really did notice a huge improvement in real world usage. I'm not sure if it is really because of the change in file system, but nevertheless thats the only big thing present in that kernel aside from CWM.
Everything said make sense and seems to be valid but let me share my experience.
I have Samsung Galaxy Vibrant and T-mobile Tab. Now both are using EXT4 file system and have fully functional recovery allowing for flashing straight from the phone.
Both now have Quanrant score around 1700-1800 and run very smothly.
Is I/O speed important? I think it is very important because task switching requires reading of huge chuncks of memory. Until read operation completed the user is essencially suspended. Multitasking is the major distinction of Android and lags associated with the tasks switching might be the most noticeable issue since its used so much. Converting of the RFS file system to EXT4 practically reduced lags to unnoticeable level. I don't need any better.
Another critical area for I/O is playing video and especially capturing HD video. The latter works only if I set internal storage and shut down all tasks.
This is work in progress but it seems it reached level of usability when most critical bugs eliminated.
It should be noted that the Tab is flashed with Rotohammer KM2 v1 ROM and Paul Obrien's kernel on a top. The kernel contains scripts converting the file system and flashing recovery. This combination works well, no issues so far.
Well I decided to give it a try and after install my quadrant is 2556 and linpack is 16.865 mflops at 1200mhz. Good scores but just numbers. I do however believe im seeing a bit of snap that I didnt have before when accessing my library. Still really unsure if this is a good thing as im not sure if I can use apps to sd anymore so I may uninstall at some point in the future but thanks to all you who helped the old man out. Atm im quite happy
Now lets get ta craka lackin on a 1.5 ghz update for our tabs
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Of course you can use a2sd. Froyo does it by default
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I think you are pushing!
Overclocking will raise processor/RAM heat dissipation and thus might lead to a catastrophic failure. It would be great to have temperature sensor on the board or at least measure current consumption from the battery but it is not easy.
Of course im a pushin lol. Only way to achieve is to try. Course ive read about the tab proccessor being able to handle 1.4 stable and can handle 1.6... Not that id know about these things first hand. Just taking the words of better men.
Just an old man with a little time to kill and a dream to be able to play facebook cityville on my tab haha. Well that and I have always enjoyed souping up my toys lmao.
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When we got the stock GB upgrade, I found myself missing my ROOT and of course the BAUXITE Kernel.
Well we got the ROOT back quickly and now Thanks to Mr. Eui Woo Jeong we have overclocking. TEGRAK ULTIMATE overclock on the market website now supports the Sprint Tab w/GB.
Life is good.
What speed are you overclocking to?
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What speed are you overclocking to?
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I'm just cruising through at 1.2 no volt adjustment. Just "ONDEMAND".
No issues....
Did you mean the non ultimate version?
The ultimate version is $ 1.99
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The ultimate version is not working for me. It does a checking stability for 300 seconds and never counts down for the Set on Boot option.
What are the best speeds to overclock to? I am over clocking to 1.1 ghz and it keeps locking up and freezing
I guess I can't support the widgets that I would like to without it being too slugish
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I've noticed that oc'd past 1.2 my performance drops. It runs laggy and 1.3 benchmark scores were half that of 1.0 UNLESS I plug it into the wall. Is the battery not able to keep up or it it being undervolted?
Also, using this app, any thoughts on undervolting at 1.0 to increase battery? I would imagine undervolting won't fry anything, just maybe lock up, so is ot safe to experiment?
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throwback1718 said:
What are the best speeds to overclock to? I am over clocking to 1.1 ghz and it keeps locking up and freezing
I guess I can't support the widgets that I would like to without it being too slugish
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1.2 seems to be spot on for me.
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I will be definitely trying 1.2... The reason I didn't try that before was because I feared it would Surely kill my battery life.
I'll give you guys feedback... I also wanna know how long you guys batt life lasts on 1.2?
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Works amazing on my Sprint GTab! Runs at 1.2Ghz without a problem. I only got the free one. I'm stingy like that.
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My Tuppence
I've played around a lot with the paid version of tegrak.
Free version works fine at 1200mhz max for me and I got the following AnTuTu results
1000mhz stock (Gingerbread 2.3.3 and Odin root, 32gb micro sd installed too) - score = 2676 = rank 56752
1200mhz - score = 2676 = rank 51544
With paid Tegrak I've managed to tweak up to a max of 1228mhz before it got unstable and rebooted, here are my results.
1220mhz (core voltage increased to 1325mv from 1300mv) - score = 3097 = rank 40166
1224mhz (core 1325) - score = 3130 = rank 39620
1228mhz (core 1325) - score = 2890 = rank 47433. So a drop in performance at which point I gave up testing further.
I'm happy with these results for $1.99.... pretty substantial update in performance. Plus going from an AnTuTu rank of 56752 to 39620 an improvement of 17132 in the rankings I'm happy.
Hello,
What is your bench score with QUADRANT BENCHMARK
the mine is 1550 with hc3.1 OTA, Villain_iconia_kernel_2.5 kernel
Quandrant Score : 3423
Acer Iconia A500
Villian_Iconia_Kernel 3.2
LightSpeed Rom
over clocked to 1.4ghz
MrTonyToca said:
Quandrant Score : 3423
Acer Iconia A500
Villian_Iconia_Kernel 3.2
LightSpeed Rom
over clocked to 1.4ghz
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How does it get that high? Mine is oc. To 1.5 and my highest is 2100!
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monkey10120 said:
How does it get that high? Mine is oc. To 1.5 and my highest is 2100!
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I don't know, It might be the Rom.....Its the newest version of the Light Speed Rom....OC'd to 1.4ghz using SetCPU Ondemand governer , with the Honey Villian_Iconia_Kernel 3.2, thats the highest I've gotten but since I've flashed both it has ranged from 2800-3300
[ROM][26/08]Lightspeed_1.0.2[HC3.2]
[KERNEL] Stock/HV/Taboonay V3.3 for HC 3.2 07-09 - 1.64Ghz/UV control
quadrant is very unreliable. to some searching on it, it is easy to manipulate I/O or other factors just get high scores. Doesn't really mean it is a great ROM/kernel combo. I've seen posts where people can get their quadrant score upwards of 20,000. All benchmarks apps have their pros and cons but from i've been told/seen in threads CF bench and vellamo seem to be the most reliable.
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quadrant is very unreliable. to some searching on it, it is easy to manipulate I/O or other factors just get high scores. Doesn't really mean it is a great ROM/kernel combo. I've seen posts where people can get their quadrant score upwards of 20,000. All benchmarks apps have their pros and cons but from i've been told/seen in threads CF bench and vellamo seem to be the most reliable.
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I've also tried Smartbench 2011, since it measures both cores instead of one and push around 4400 there.....Im loving the speed on this thing....