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To flash or not Flash the RADIO

Well I am in a dilemma weather to flash the 2.08.50.08 RADIO or not..!!!
I have 2.04.50.22_2 RADIO..!!!
So can you people who have flashed & checked out various RADIO's help me out..???
In short which is the BEST RADIO for HD2 now..???

i just bought my hd2 few days ago... with a 2 year warranty... but i so wanna change the rom with a cooked one and to change the radio...
regarding your question... i have the same dilema... I suppose that the newer the better... but still... different radio versions appear to different operators... so... isn't it possible that they are tweaked for them this resulting in bad quality with another operator?... just asking...

I wonder if it is worth to flas radio as well.

no, u dont really need to flash the radio too. maybe its cool to show some friends the RAM power the HD2 really has, but thats all.
i flashed the latest radio after i flashed a cooked rom... the handy was working, but telephone function was bugged, so i flashed latest radio.. and it worked well + 576mb ram
so only flash it if u have problems with your current radio..
u dont need 576mb ram, the 448mb are more than enough, u will never use every byte xD

D4rkSoRRoW said:
no, u dont really need to flash the radio too. maybe its cool to show some friends the RAM power the HD2 really has, but thats all.
i flashed the latest radio after i flashed a cooked rom... the handy was working, but telephone function was bugged, so i flashed latest radio.. and it worked well + 576mb ram
so only flash it if u have problems with your current radio..
u dont need 576mb ram, the 448mb are more than enough, u will never use every byte xD
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thank you for the reply mate. I'm not going to then.

i have radio that came with that hotfix on htc page. can that ruin my guarantee?

i wonder if i it will help flashing a new radio with my battery life... now i unplug it at 0700 in the morning and at 0900, 1000 in the evening ițm bellow 5%... bummer... with data connection always on...

Don't fix what doesn't need fixing.
Or do it if you feel like it, but only if you are SURE it's not something over your head.

what is your avarage battery life?

Well just started usin the phone yesterday..!!!
LoLz..!!!

generally you need to update your radio if your going to use a newer cooked rom that needs it, if you don't upgrade your radio and you install a new rom, then odd's are good that you will not be able to boot your phone until you update the radio as well, if you like your phone the way it is dont worry, if you want to play with roms, make sure you can find a copy of your suppliers original rom so that you can always go back to that if you need to return it with a warranty issue, the manufacturers rom's generally flash the bootloader, the radio and the rom in one swoop, so you can go completely back to the way your phone was new, I just recently did this myself by flashing the telstra rom back onto the device from the microsdhc card... worked like a charm

Looking to upgrade radio...

I have been having battery issues and am looking to upgrade the radio. I am currently running Fresh 2.0d with the 1.04.01.09.21 radio. Does anyone have any insight into what radio I should be upgrading to? Any suggestions/recommendations on the process of upgrading the radio so i don't brick my phone. I am looking at doing the 2.32.40.11.09 which is the one based on the Desire.

Flashing any radio does have high potential to brick your phone.
Make sure your battery is 100% before trying it.
Also you will need to try all of the radios just to find the one that works best for you in your area.

Does someone provide the original radio in case I cannot find one that works better?

lineman78 said:
Does someone provide the original radio in case I cannot find one that works better?
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Yeah, all of the radios for our phone are on
geekfor.me
Make sure what ever you load you either get it ONLY from that site or it says specifically "CDMA".

Yeah, I've read the fastest way to brick your phone permanently is to flash a GSM radio. Should upgrading the radio help reduce the amount of battery cell standby uses? I'm assuming its simply flashed like any other signed zip? Thanks for your help.

lineman78 said:
Yeah, I've read the fastest way to brick your phone permanently is to flash a GSM radio. Should upgrading the radio help reduce the amount of battery cell standby uses? I'm assuming its simply flashed like any other signed zip? Thanks for your help.
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It's a little bit different that update zips.
It's more likely a software issue with the Cell Standby - but i did see a drastic increase in batter life when flashing the most recently posted radio (forgot the version#)

From Custom ROM to Official 2.13?

Ok, I did use the search feature and I did find information but I just want to verify that it is correct. From what I seen to update from a Custom ROM with HSPL to the Official 2.13 Update you have to do the following:
1. Flash the 2.13 Update
2. Run HSPL again but this time select (in my case) 2.08.00 instead of 2.08.00 HSPL which should flash the stock SPL onto the phone.
Is this correct? Just want to verify as I dont want to brick my HD2.
Thanks,
Mike

correct
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Thanks for verifying that.

if thatsvthe update from tmobile i advise against it. it messed with my sensitivity and took me a few days of work to go back to the 2.10 ROM version

Let me ask you this though, did you do a hard reset before flashing the update, as well as after flashing the update? If you did this it shouldn't have any bad effects on it. Ive heard no others say they have had this issue. Ill let you know if I have this kind of issue though. What exactly was it doing?

ssconceptz said:
Let me ask you this though, did you do a hard reset before flashing the update, as well as after flashing the update? If you did this it shouldn't have any bad effects on it. Ive heard no others say they have had this issue. Ill let you know if I have this kind of issue though. What exactly was it doing?
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That is most definitely a wise practice when flashing ROM's...however, there are indeed quite a few users reporting sensitivity issues after flashing to the new 2.13...there's changes in the new ROM intended to improve sensitivity, but the effects aren't always desirable it seems.
Some serious efforts are underway here to get around that, you can keep up with them at the following thread (which is also a sticky at the top of this forum section):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683192

Or......
1. Use an extrator program on the .exe file and then you will find that the 2.13 update has 11 files. (rename the .exe to .rar)
2. Run a Task29
3. After the 11 files are extracted you can just use the romupdate utility, and presto stock 2.13 without messing with HSPL
These steps will not overwrite the HSPL to 2.10 and if you decide to go to another custom ROM then you are good to go.
It also works the same with the 2.10 stock ROM

I had a custom went to the new tmous official and went back to a custom without having to redo Hspl.

well I just heard that the HSPL gives problems with 2.13 and you need to use the factory SPL

uhmm.... i'm using smaberg's touch extreme rom.... which is better? the tmo 2.13 update or the custom rom?

May I ask why would you consider returning to 2.13 after running a perfectly fine Custom ROM? Well, besides selling or trying to return the phone to T-Mobile... 2.13 gave me nothing but problems and freezing left and right. The music app in 2.13 took 1 minute and 25 seconds to load the songs !!!!

2.13 is the latest right? even the new custom roms are 2.13 based right? or that's old?

matyoka said:
May I ask why would you consider returning to 2.13 after running a perfectly fine Custom ROM? Well, besides selling or trying to return the phone to T-Mobile... 2.13 gave me nothing but problems and freezing left and right. The music app in 2.13 took 1 minute and 25 seconds to load the songs !!!!
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Something is definitely wrong with your HD2. I have the latest rom and it's just as stable as the previous versions. Using Garmin Mobile XT GPS and SportyPal along with G-Alarm very frequently with no hiccups.
You sir suck at HD2.

Appreciate your response, even though it had nothing to do with you. On a second note, I'd rather suck at HD2 than suck something else... something you are very familiar with.

Extracting radio from nandroid backup

Hi folks,
I'm currently with Telus and I will be re-rooting my phone but I don't want to lose the radio that came with the phone. Is there a way to extract the radio, maybe from a nandroid backup?
I find the radio that comes default with the phone does not suck as much battery power as the other international radios do.
Thanks.

I might be wrong, but unless you flash a new radio, it remains when you flash a new rom....

Nandroid backups unfortunately don't include the radio.
Some people find that installing 63.18.55.06IU_6.35.08.22 gives performance that is similar to the Telus radio (63.18.55.06DAU_6.35.08.20).
Hopefully there is a way to extract a radio since I'm interested in that as well.

theSpam said:
Nandroid backups unfortunately don't include the radio.
Some people find that installing 63.18.55.06IU_6.35.08.22 gives performance that is similar to the Telus radio (63.18.55.06DAU_6.35.08.20).
Hopefully there is a way to extract a radio since I'm interested in that as well.
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I can confirmed, since I've rooted my phone, I've tried all the Radio's available and the one I have found to work best is 63.18.55.06IU_6.35.08.22 ! Although some people are using other Radio's and find that they work as good as 08.22 so It's pretty much up to you to test the radio's and find the one that you think works for you!
Cheers

Take a look in the
[ROM] Official HTC Hero RUU ROM + Radio Links thread. (sorry they don't let new users post links)
The 08.22 radio you want is there. Download and put onto your SD card. After flashing your rom reboot into revovery and flash the radio file just like you did the rom file.

as someone sort of guessed at here, radios are something you don't have to worry about.
a radio doesn't get backed up or restored in nandroid. but also, a radio doesn't get flashed when you flash a new rom onto your phone.
the radio software stays exactly the same unless you specifically flash a different radio onto your phone. and then it stays like that forever too until you flash yet another different one on there.
so stick with your default radio, assuming telus actually sets it up with a telus-friendly-radio out of hte box...
if you accidentally screw it up, flashing .08.22 radio will get you back pretty close to where you are now in terms of performance. However none of us probably has the original radio from our telus phones any longer because this didn't become common knowledge until relatively recently, so if you CAN I suggest not flashing any radios on your phone at all ever. that way you will retain the radio software taht came with your phone which, hopefully, is better than anything else for our crazy telus requirements.
so go ahead and flash roms, you'll have no troubles.

When I first got my hero, prior to rooting, my reception at home was terrible. I would routinely get 0 to 1 bars. So this would have been with the stock Telus radio. In fact, every phone I've had has had terrible reception in this location. After flashing 08.22 I am now getting from 2 to 5 bars at home. So although the 08.22 radio is supposed to be close to the stock radio, I'm finding it quite a bit better. Your mileage may vary.

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terrable service

I am trying to get my brothers phone working for him again I am not exactly sure what is or could be causing him to have such crappy service if you have any ideas let me know
about this phone:
tmo-us hd2
can barley make a call put sim card in another hd2 and it works fine
He likes to change his roms alot
had android when I got it
put latest stock rom back on and reset all setting
still crappy service when it should be good

sanddune600 said:
I am trying to get my brothers phone working for him again I am not exactly sure what is or could be causing him to have such crappy service if you have any ideas let me know
about this phone:
tmo-us hd2
can barley make a call put sim card in another hd2 and it works fine
He likes to change his roms alot
had android when I got it
put latest stock rom back on and reset all setting
still crappy service when it should be good
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Do a task29 update the radio and put a rom... One without all the crap software to reduce interferance from and app or something ... Because if another identical hd2 has great serivce but this one in the same location has bad.. Then its either software/hardware related

I think that it is software as well that is why I put a stock rom on but I dont know if that did anything to the radio I will try the one you suggested

sanddune600 said:
I am trying to get my brothers phone working for him again I am not exactly sure what is or could be causing him to have such crappy service if you have any ideas let me know
about this phone:
tmo-us hd2
can barley make a call put sim card in another hd2 and it works fine
He likes to change his roms alot
had android when I got it
put latest stock rom back on and reset all setting
still crappy service when it should be good
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hakuchi18v said:
Do a task29 update the radio and put a rom... One without all the crap software to reduce interferance from and app or something ... Because if another identical hd2 has great serivce but this one in the same location has bad.. Then its either software/hardware related
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This is very sound advice. If your brother likes flashing different ROMs a lot. Then a task 29 will probably do his HD2 some good.

seems to have not changed anything I did the task29 and put latest stock rom back on first I guess I need to find a new radio as suggested but I dont know what one to use I will search around for that and a lite rom
I have
Radio 2.15.50.14
Rom 3.14.531.1

sanddune600 said:
seems to have not changed anything I did the task29 and put latest stock rom back on first I guess I need to find a new radio as suggested but I dont know what one to use I will search around for that and a lite rom
I have
Radio 2.15.50.14
Rom 3.14.531.1
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Radio 2.15.50.14 is the latest.... If its not the radio.. And its not the ROM... Then its hardware related aslong as both android and WP7 have the same problem

Flashing the radio isnt an instant fix.......
Some people recommend letting a new radio settle in for up to 48 hours.

I tried this one _2.09.50.29_2 and still the same and letting it settle in for 48 hrs may help but this has been an ongoing problem can flashing the wrong rom perminatly cause hardware problems if its hardware is there anything I can do and yes it does it in android I dont know about windows 7 I have not tried that not sure if he has I will ask
re read I thought you said flashing rom takes 48 hours not radio

Im assuming its a tmous model you have.........
If so, then you must never ever ever ever..... flash a radio with .51. in the name.
This will bork your device....
Flashing a rom shouldnt really cause a hardware problem........ unless you snap the usb connector off or something while flashing
If that radio doesnt improve things over the next day or so then check what radio is in the other HD2 you tried the card in and flash that one.