Hi all,
Flashing of RADIO rom is that same reason as my Kaiser?
Better performance, GPS, etc etc?
And where can i find a thread where i can see where the latest radio rom is working correct in given Country's, or are the HERO Radio roms for every country?
I know for Kaiser that not all roms are working correct in Netherlands for example.
cheers
160bpm said:
Hi all,
Flashing of RADIO rom is that same reason as my Kaiser?
Better performance, GPS, etc etc?
And where can i find a thread where i can see where the latest radio rom is working correct in given Country's, or are the HERO Radio roms for every country?
I know for Kaiser that not all roms are working correct in Netherlands for example.
cheers
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Yes indeed, that is exactly what updating the radio is good for.
I don't think they are country/region specific,... I just used the latest one and my network signal is now much better!!!
All radio updates can be found in the sticky's at the top of the Hero-Development section,... Heres the link though,... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757
Peace
nothing to add here, except DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY! it takes a few minutes and you may see a screen that makes you think you bricked your phone.
kendong2 said:
nothing to add here, except DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY! it takes a few minutes and you may see a screen that makes you think you bricked your phone.
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Yep yep,.... V-IMPORTANT!!!!!
Just wait.
Don't want to start an additional thread for my [question], so this seems to be a good place to ask it .
Where do these radio roms come from? How come HTC don't provide them for downloading in their site? Maybe it's simply not worth flashing them or they are actually not good in a sense that they are not tested properly and stuff?
Also, do the full ROM upgrades include a newer radio? So can we expect a new radio included in the upcoming official 2.1 ROM?
AND, what is the difference betwen EU and JU? Currently I have 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18 and the newest one is 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26. This may sound super dumb, but maybe mine is like European one and the newest is Japanese or something?
Oh, and the last one (even though I'm sure there is an answer somewhere deep in these forums): how do you flash radio, in short?
Thanks
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Don't want to start an additional thread for my [question], so this seems to be a good place to ask it .
Where do these radio roms come from? How come HTC don't provide them for downloading in their site? Maybe it's simply not worth flashing them or they are actually not good in a sense that they are not tested properly and stuff?
Also, do the full ROM upgrades include a newer radio? So can we expect a new radio included in the upcoming official 2.1 ROM?
AND, what is the difference betwen EU and JU? Currently I have 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18 and the newest one is 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26. This may sound super dumb, but maybe mine is like European one and the newest is Japanese or something?
Oh, and the last one (even though I'm sure there is an answer somewhere deep in these forums): how do you flash radio, in short?
Thanks
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I'm no pro, but I can attempt this,...
Where do these radio roms come from?...
I *think* the official updates from HTC come with updated radio ROMS,... Then some clever guys from either here or Modaco take 'dumps' of the update from the handset itself, then seperate the two.
Maybe it's simply not worth flashing them or they are actually not good in a sense that they are not tested properly and stuff?...
I take XDA to be a reliable source of information now,.... If you do your research you'l be fine. I made sure I read through the forums to make sure there are no known issues before upgrading my radio to the latest one.
Do the full ROM upgrades include a newer radio? So can we expect a new radio included in the upcoming official 2.1 ROM?...
Hmmmm,.... Good question. But no-one would know that yet.
Maybe mine is like European one and the newest is Japanese or something?...
I thought the exact same thing, but NO,... It doesn't mean anything,... Apparently it is just a reference used by HTC. I used the latest on my Orange UK branded Hero, which is now being used with an o2 SIM.
How do you flash radio, in short?...
To install a custom firmware ROM I had to update the recovery console. Once that is done, you just put the new radio onto your SD, load into the recovery console, then select update from SD,... DONE,... Easy as pie,... Piece of cake!!!
Thanks all for the info.. And yes.. NEVER pull the Battery out of the phone.. untill you can slide down your lockscreen isn't it? haha
ddotpatel said:
I'm no pro, but I can attempt this,...
Where do these radio roms come from?...
I *think* the official updates from HTC come with updated radio ROMS,... Then some clever guys from either here or Modaco take 'dumps' of the update from the handset itself, then seperate the two.
Maybe it's simply not worth flashing them or they are actually not good in a sense that they are not tested properly and stuff?...
I take XDA to be a reliable source of information now,.... If you do your research you'l be fine. I made sure I read through the forums to make sure there are no known issues before upgrading my radio to the latest one.
Do the full ROM upgrades include a newer radio? So can we expect a new radio included in the upcoming official 2.1 ROM?...
Hmmmm,.... Good question. But no-one would know that yet.
Maybe mine is like European one and the newest is Japanese or something?...
I thought the exact same thing, but NO,... It doesn't mean anything,... Apparently it is just a reference used by HTC. I used the latest on my Orange UK branded Hero, which is now being used with an o2 SIM.
How do you flash radio, in short?...
To install a custom firmware ROM I had to update the recovery console. Once that is done, you just put the new radio onto your SD, load into the recovery console, then select update from SD,... DONE,... Easy as pie,... Piece of cake!!!
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I have the newest Amon Ra recovery tool, is that sufficient? for flashing the radio!
yes. boot
in recovery and apply previously put update.zip on sd card.
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I have been having battery issues and am looking to upgrade the radio. I am currently running Fresh 2.0d with the 1.04.01.09.21 radio. Does anyone have any insight into what radio I should be upgrading to? Any suggestions/recommendations on the process of upgrading the radio so i don't brick my phone. I am looking at doing the 2.32.40.11.09 which is the one based on the Desire.
Flashing any radio does have high potential to brick your phone.
Make sure your battery is 100% before trying it.
Also you will need to try all of the radios just to find the one that works best for you in your area.
Does someone provide the original radio in case I cannot find one that works better?
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Does someone provide the original radio in case I cannot find one that works better?
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Yeah, all of the radios for our phone are on
geekfor.me
Make sure what ever you load you either get it ONLY from that site or it says specifically "CDMA".
Yeah, I've read the fastest way to brick your phone permanently is to flash a GSM radio. Should upgrading the radio help reduce the amount of battery cell standby uses? I'm assuming its simply flashed like any other signed zip? Thanks for your help.
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Yeah, I've read the fastest way to brick your phone permanently is to flash a GSM radio. Should upgrading the radio help reduce the amount of battery cell standby uses? I'm assuming its simply flashed like any other signed zip? Thanks for your help.
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It's a little bit different that update zips.
It's more likely a software issue with the Cell Standby - but i did see a drastic increase in batter life when flashing the most recently posted radio (forgot the version#)
Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
I am running the updated rom 2.13 I am on t-mobile though and I am able to use android all day but once I restart it reverts back to WM. So I am not sure if this helps you...I was able to get everything running but the calls sounded robotic. I read I needed to flash to a new rom.
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Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
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Well first, if you have the T-Mobile version of the phone, you do NOT want to use an update from the HTC site, that's for the euro version of the phone. The upgraded stock rom that you can use is available on T-Mobile's support page for the HD2.
Now, flashing to the correct updated ROM will not prevent you from doing anything...you'll still be able to unlock it later, you can still run Android, and you can still do any customizations you want. It's just a newer version of the stock ROM that originally came on the phone.
Hey, thanks so much guys, I'll search for the T-mobile page. I'm glad you guys caught it before I bricked me phone.
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term. Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one? I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should? Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
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BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term.
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one?
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That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should?
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There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
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That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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Wow, thank you so much sirphunkee, you sir are a scholar with your detailed response. Anyways, I apologize but I am intrigued by your response and more questions evolve. Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
Again I would like to sincerely thank you for everyone's patience with me, especially sirphunkee. Thank you.
No problem!
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Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
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Most of the HD2's built or shipped in the past 2 months have the newer ROM on them, but even if yours doesn't then yes you can just go to the T-Mobile site and get the newer one.
Both of the stock ROM's have the radio(s) included, so you don't have to worry about it if you just stay with one of those ROM's. If you flash a custom ROM it (usually) won't have a radio included, it'll just use whatever radio was already on your phone (i.e. whatever one came with the stock ROM originally). You can flash to different radio versions....ONLY ones that are clearly labeled as being compatible with the US HD2...doesn't matter if you're running a stock or custom ROM, but it does require HSPL first before a radio can be flashed.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
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The original stock T-Mobile US ROM (yes, the one I'm running currently) is 2.10.531.1 ("2.10" for short), and the newer one that's been released is 2.13...so that pic you linked there just shows the stock upgrade utility about to upgrade a ROM to the new version (with an included radio).
You can tell what ROM/Radio is on your phone by reading the little text that appears on the bottom of the screen during bootup, and you can also access that info through a settings option once the phone is running.
"WWE" = "WorldWide English"....just means that I have an english-based ROM. Other languages are available by applying ROM's specifically built for that language, but I honestly don't even know if any exist for the T-Mobile HD2, I think they're only available for the euro model.
Since it's very easy to flash the upgraded stock ROM, if your phone comes with the older one I would just suggest running that for a few days and see if it gives you any headaches....if so, then just go ahead and flash to the newer one. There's a number of threads in this section that discuss the differences in the stock ROM's, and the advantages/disadvantages of each. Regardless of which stock ROM you have, the process to flash to a custom ROM is the same either way (HSPL, etc).
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
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HSPL is "permanent", in the sense that it remains on your phone until you manually flash a different HSPL (like flashing back to stock SPL should you need to return the phone for warranty reasons). Once you have HSPL (yes, a hard bootloader) on your phone (HSPL3 being the latest/best to use), you can flash all the different custom ROMs or radios that you want, without having to apply HSPL again.
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
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There a bunch of different things you can to to tweak a stock ROM, or to futher tweak a custom one, and BsB is just a nice tight convenient collection of some of the more common ones. I use BsB and don't have any issues related to it, but I also skip a few of the settings in it ("tap time" for example) that have caused issues for other users. Besides BsB, I also use HD2Tweak, JWMD Icon Changer, CHT/CHTE, as well as a whole list of other stand-alone tweaks that come in the form of cab files, or manual registry hacks...some are related to performance or function, while some are strictly visual or style tweaks.
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
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I originially thought the same (that Android ran in parallel with WM and that was causing the batt drain), but from what I read it actually shuts down WM when it runs, so I guess that isn't the cause of the drain...but honestly I haven't been able to keep up with all the finer details of the Android porting that's going on. And yes, a version of Androd that will load straight to NAND at bootup is the final hurdle I was talking about, and that's exactly what a number of dev's are trying very hard to make happen....I suspect that a breakthrough in that is right around the corner, but I'm no dev so take that with a grain of salt!
Hope that helps! It will be a lot easier once you have the unit in-hand and can play with it yourself. Also be sure to look over this thread (if you haven't already): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845
Thank you again sirphunkee! Anyways I just got my hd2 and for the most part I like it. Though, I have a question, how can I backup my contacts so that after a new rom install I dont need to relink their facebook accounts again? Basically, I don't have the same names for my contacts, I only have first names so I have to redo it manually one by one and I want to use activesync to do it but it's telling me I need Outlook. Why do I need Outlook? Isn't that a stupid outdated email application? Also, how do you remove all the bloatware like blockbuster from the HD2? Is flashing a custom rom the only option?
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
anyone have a idea? I'd like to experiment with android but i wanna make sure i have the right settings to i dontt have a brick in my hands after I'm done.
Poopmonkey said:
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
Poopmonkey said:
Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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I think what that thread is saying is that having a custom ROM is what helps with the stability of Android, not just putting HSPL3 on there (unless that's buried in that thread somewhere that I missed...). But yes, putting a custom ROM on the phone would have the prerequisite of HSPL anyway.
I don't have a custom ROM or even HSPL on my HD2, and I'm currently using the Desire v5 build of Android on here. It seems to run very stable, but I haven't yet gotten a few things working on it (i.e. 3G)...I can't say if a custom ROM would make those things work, but I can say it doesn't ever crash or hang or seem to slow down at all.
I just wanted you to know that HSPL wasn't mandatory for you to be able to try out Android on your phone.
Ok thank you so much sirphunkee again. Anyways, I'm wondering if you know why my weather will not update now when I ask it to on a Wifi connection. I try to update it and just says that its a connection error. And also my windows marketplace app installs seem to stall on the 3/4 complete and they never finish. Could you perhaps help me with that?
Lastly, I was wondering would you be able to tell me if I wanted to put a custom ROM on my HD2 what setting do I need to put on my HD2 for a successful flash?
FIND THE "ANDROID ON HD2" THREAD everything is explained.
I have a stock Tmous HD2, never touched the rom or radio. I do want to try android but from reading some posts a stock rom/radio is not the way to go.
Can someone provide a link in this thread to a good radio to update too, that basically won't brick the phone, or even what version radio and I can find it. As for updating the stock rom, I'm pretty sure I need Miri but don't want to install that without knowing my radio is compatable.
As for the radio/rom installation, I can search the forums but any advice would be great also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
There is no best radio. It depends on carrier, rom and still varies from user to user. I opt for the most recent radio and have had success. Try a few and see what works for you. The same goes for roms. There is no best rom. Read the rom threads, look at screenshots and features and try some out.
All this information is easily found numerous times by SEARCHING.
Deckard,you may have the same prob I had,I thought mine was "stock"too,after doing some research it is a refurb,if so,download a stock radio and flash it,if you get sound when making calls that was the prob.