when will android be useble? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?

koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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It is unlike this will every take place. The complications with NAND and drivers for the Leo are the issue. Even the phone is similar to other HTC devices hard is different to drivers are as well. In the case of the Leo it will likely not happened. If you want a Android device I suggest you move from the Leo.
I understand the 4.3" screen is difficult to match on a carrier like T-Mobile. I personal just left Verizon where I had the Droid X. Android is nice but I was more focused on a phone with a nice hardware and set up.

koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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Android is useable now.
Waiting for Devs to release it to NAND although it works flawlessly from the SD Card well at least mine does
Boot from Startup is NAND and won't be released untill it is finished.
The guy above this post is an idiot. It won't be long before it replaces winmo completely so stick with your HD2 as WP7 might be an option in the next few months or so as well.

koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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Im sure, instead of wasting our valuable time, you could have spent some of yours searching through these threads and reading the state of the world of Android on the HTC Leo. But you didn't you chose to let loose another regurgitated thread asking the same question people have been asking for the last year.
Please read before posting.

Usable?
Usable? Um... I have not used winmo for about 2-3 months. If you have not tried it yet you should. There are several extremely stable builds right now. I recently switched from Bangsters to mdeejay evo revolution, only because I wanted to try a Sense build. Sound/voice quality is perfect, data speeds excellent, no issues with mms or any other functionality. Battery is also very good. Not as good as winmo, but very close, and who doesnt have a charger at their desk or in their car these days?
Sure you may lose data connection occasionally (maybe 1-2 times a week), but cycling airplane mode clears that up. The issues with android today are no worse than the shortcomings of winmo.
Its not like you lose winmo by loading up an android build. Just do it, you will not go back.

thanks for all the replays
my question is awnserd
and tanks for all of your aponions
ps i did search

koendegr said:
ps i did search
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Just didn't read

I'd say that, provided that you are willing to read the forums to troubleshoot your issues, android on the hd2 is as capable as any other current android handset.

How to disable Active Sync security?
Hi
I'm sure this is an issue already solved and even discussed here. I did the search.
Could you tell me where to find software which will disable Active Sync security feature on Sence Revolution 2.2?
I have installed LockPicker already but I'm not able to get it work properly.
Thanks in advanced.

Related

It looks like android is close

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/android-port-for-htc-hd2-overcomes-big-hurdle-finally-getting-c/
Could this be in the very near future? I hope so
Did you really need to start yet ANOTHER Android for HD2 thread? Please search before cluttering, there is already dozens of threads you could have posted in lolol....
~Jasecloud4
sorry just trying to post info for everyone.
Here are the replies from the other threads......
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE
dubie76 said:
Here are the replies from the other threads......
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE
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Maybe you should actually consider reading the link before posting. Its not fake but its not about a working Android port. The article is referring to this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
So you post a link to an engadget story here in the xda forums that has a source from the xda forums. Did you think we didn't know already?
All I know is that I can't wait for this to come out. I'm holding out on doing anything big to the phone so that I can do this when it's finally fully working. I know it will happen eventually, just needs some time.
Matt V said:
All I know is that I can't wait for this to come out. I'm holding out on doing anything big to the phone so that I can do this when it's finally fully working. I know it will happen eventually, just needs some time.
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Why would you avoid doing anything big to your phone? Set it up the way you want it to work for now.
Don't expect it to be fully working anytime soon. If we have a port with everything working except camera, gps, and blutooth in a year from now, I would say that's fast and we're lucky. These things take time... look at android ports for other winmo devices... none are fully functional yet even after years of development. Android is not something you're going to want to use on a daily basis for a long time.
Also, it will not effect your winmo part of your phone at all when its ready... it will be run from a storage card. Your phone will still be a winmo phone and boot into winmo first.... then you will launch haret from there to boot into android. Do some research on other android ports for winmo phones.... don't expect it to happen any different or quicker for the HD2. It will be probably a year before android is functional enough to want to use as your main operating system on your hd2.
http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/ubuntu-running-smoothly-on-htc-hd2
found this. Step in the right direction?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
dcordes thread on the whole thing.
you guys should really read up on the HD2 linux thread and try out some of the tests before saying anything.

[Q] Is there a PURE android rom for HD2?

I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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Short answer, no there is not. Long answer, they have come surprisingly far in porting Android to the HD2 but there is still a lot of work to be done. The developers here are flat out amazing for making it as far as they have in as short a time as they have but as of right now no it's not a "pure" ROM if by pure you mean replaces WinMo. It currently only runs off of your SDcard and shuts down the Windows Kernel to boot the Linux Kernel... But like I said, it really seems like they're not far off from what you're inquiring about which I can only assume is a NAND version.
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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It has been stated several times now that it is NOT EMULATED. Haret shuts down the Windows Kernel and starts up the Linux kernel. There is no trace of Windows running. It's done this way for several reasons - No touching the internal memory of the phone whilst in beta to prevent bricking, easier to apply rapid updates and the main reason is that it's still needed to initialise hardware.
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
Wrathlon said:
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
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And yeah, as far as the color limitation... What HE said, heh.
Wrathlon said:
It has been stated several times now that it is NOT EMULATED. Haret shuts down the Windows Kernel and starts up the Linux kernel. There is no trace of Windows running. It's done this way for several reasons - No touching the internal memory of the phone whilst in beta to prevent bricking, easier to apply rapid updates and the main reason is that it's still needed to initialise hardware.
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
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Thanks for your reply!
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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Hi, it is not a simulator or an emulator.
However, it is started from windows currently whilst development continues.
Once development is complete I assume it will be available to boot from the phones internal rom (nand).
jjones1983 said:
Short answer, no there is not. Long answer, they have come surprisingly far in porting Android to the HD2 but there is still a lot of work to be done. The developers here are flat out amazing for making it as far as they have in as short a time as they have but as of right now no it's not a "pure" ROM if by pure you mean replaces WinMo. It currently only runs off of your SDcard and shuts down the Windows Kernel to boot the Linux Kernel... But like I said, it really seems like they're not far off from what you're inquiring about which I can only assume is a NAND version.
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OK. Then I wait for more mature HD2 android ROM and the specs of Dsire HD.
aenedor said:
Hi, it is not a simulator or an emulator.
However, it is started from windows currently whilst development continues.
Once development is complete I assume it will be available to boot from the phones internal rom (nand).
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Thanks for your reply!
I thought the LCD itself was 16M colors, but it was winmo which was limiting to 65k. This isn't true?
2girls1cup said:
why don't u do some research u fuggin cumquat...u should have a post count of at least 50 before you are able to create a thread. just my opin
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Well, this thread helped me a lot! I just wanted a heads up about android development on the HD2 and I didn't have to do any search! I mean, wow...
2girls1cup said:
why don't u do some research u fuggin cumquat...u should have a post count of at least 50 before you are able to create a thread. just my opin
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It is of course better if I can do my research on my own. However, English is not my mother language, so I have problem to read through all the technical issues. I will try to learn more.
appelflap said:
Well, this thread helped me a lot! I just wanted a heads up about android development on the HD2 and I didn't have to do any search! I mean, wow...
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Seconded, I've been Googling for a definitive answer for several days now, coming up with all sorts of conflicting information (such as the app at: androidforhd2.tk -- is that app just a hoax? Watching it in Process Explorer, it seems to do pretty much nothing but animate a progress bar using VB...).
This thread is by far the most recent/straightforward answer I could've hoped for.

[Q] New to the Forum- Hello!

Hello all-
I am new to the forum and have followed the forum for only about a week.
I am planning to buy 2 new HD2's from T-Mobile today again, when I say again I mean I bought 2 when they first came out and like most I cried at the disappointment of WinMo 6.5 and returned them almost immediately. I hoped and dreamed of Android on the HD2, and here we are! Thank you for all that has worked on this.
I do need help with the following questions;
Can some one link me to the latest Android 2.2 Froyo version for HD2?
Once installed is it always going to run off of the SD Card?
If so does this negatively affect the battery life?
Does the functionality of HotSpot work?
I know I will have more questions but I do appreciate your help everyone!
Can some one link me to the latest Android 2.2 Froyo version for HD2?
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All of the new builds run Android 2.2, the easiest way to find them is here.
Once installed is it always going to run off of the SD Card?
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Yes, until MAGLDR (the NAND boot) is released publically.
If so does this negatively affect the battery life?
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It does. I could explain more but I'll let someone else do that.
Does the functionality of HotSpot work?
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Yes.
PS: Wrong section.
Well answered, I would add that power consumption tends to be a bit particular to a variety of set ups, windows rom, kernel, etc. so no simple answer.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I want to keep this as simple as possible...
Why is there so many different versions?
Is there a version grading system here?
Which version comes to be the highest recommended in the FROYO world?
There's no rating system as it's subjective. You may like something that other people don't and ratings would become skewed. The best thing you can do is read the first couple of posts from a build thread, and if you like what you see give it a shot.
And there are so many different versions because there's lots of different ways to build Android...
Stock
Sense
CyanogenMod
MIUI
DesireHD based
Desire Z based
Nexus One based
Evo 4G based
and probably more I cannot think of right now. Each one caters to a slightly different person, and it's up to you to find one you like.
if you dont know much about android just go with a cyanogen6 build. anything that says CM6 or CM6.1 is good. try the one by infinitybiff. simple, solid, and very very fast.
you cant go wrong.
and you can always load multiple builds on your SD card(search how to rename android folder and edit name is startup.txt)
so you can have like 10 different builds on one SD card. all ready to go.
play around find what you like, and for gods sake do not post threads in development.

[Q] Android on NAND (i.e. replacing windows mobile)?

There are several thread teaching replacing winmo with android eg. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5540986&postcount=5 thread by tatnai
is this workable on blackstone as well?
fonixcat said:
There are several thread teaching replacing winmo with android eg. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5540986&postcount=5 thread by tatnai
is this workable on blackstone as well?
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There is already a thread about blackstone NAND. We're basically waiting for improvements in similar devices, because no / very few devs have a blackstone.
If you want faster improvement, buy/get a blackstone and donate it to one dev
is there a dev in holland ?
Is there a dev in Italy?
Sent from my GT-I9000
Eodun said:
There is already a thread about blackstone NAND. We're basically waiting for improvements in similar devices, because no / very few devs have a blackstone.
If you want faster improvement, buy/get a blackstone and donate it to one dev
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Exactly.
There are issues with GSM modem handling. I could load linux kernel from NAND but it hangs before Android boots. I don't understand the radio related code enough to fix it but someone eventually will do it. It works in HaRET because Winmo does all the dirty work (hardware initialization) and than Android takes over. Probably this is also the reason why WiFi kills 3G data and maybe other problems.
g3rm0 said:
Exactly.
There are issues with GSM modem handling. I could load linux kernel from NAND but it hangs before Android boots. I don't understand the radio related code enough to fix it but someone eventually will do it. It works in HaRET because Winmo does all the dirty work (hardware initialization) and than Android takes over. Probably this is also the reason why WiFi kills 3G data and maybe other problems.
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i think thats why battery is draining SUPER fast, and clock is desyncing..
two basic things for daily use!
but i've already seen nand for htc h2, and i think its quietly similar...
mirko185 said:
but i've already seen nand for htc h2, and i think its quietly similar...
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Not similar at all. Different generation devices, different hardware... HD2 was almost identical (at least at a instruction level) as another native android device I don't remember, so they had almost all work done.
The Desire ?

[Q] Just got a HD2, where to start?

So, I just got a stock hd2 with winmo 6.5 and would like to install wp7 can somebody please explain how I can do this.
Android is better, but it's your mind.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nac3Fnf-lY4&noredirect=1
FAQ in RUS, nothing terrible, juct read: http://w7phone.ru/ustanovka-windows-phone-mango-na-htc-hd2-47917/
First of all for new users, as i was a new user, i recommend read carefully about flashing your hd2, find all info here in xda, because you can really can mess up your phone. There is things that you can do, and you cannot. So be patient, and study how to flash everything, ant then start to do
like they say measure 9times before you cut...
To much trouble with win7... flash android the get a win7 launcher
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WP7 is a lot of work in to install and you can have several issues related to battery life, SD card compatibility, and how even a compatible SD card can effect battery life. That said, I prefer WP7 to Android for aesthetic reasons.
The ROM is use is here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236027
If you go this route, I recommend the 7004-7720 one-shot upgrade. The whole guide is in the second post, and there are other, more better explanations, to help the tutorial make sense. I had to use the those ones first.
When you succeed in installing WP7, you can also dual boot Android from SD. That comes with its own set of issues, as Android runs best from NAND.
So... which would you like to try first? So long as you flash HSPL correctly, and the correct radio, it's actually really hard to brick your device.
I must agree with everybody, beleave us... android vs windows is 3times more speed with any aplication, browsing, photos, music everything works more than 3xtimes faster... go with gingerbread android... trust me you will be suprised how fast it its...
poisas said:
I must agree with everybody, beleave us... android vs windows is 3times more speed with any aplication, browsing, photos, music everything works more than 3xtimes faster... go with gingerbread android... trust me you will be suprised how fast it its...
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I'm not sure that's a fully accurate statement, or there wouldn't be a bunch of us using WP7 on the HD2. It's just a bit more complicated to get going and can have major issues related to SD cards. Mine is quite fast. I very much prefer the UI to Android, but there are things I prefer Android over WP7 for.
Regardless, it's hard to brick the HD2, provided HSPL and correct radio are flashed. There's no reason to not try either and see which meets the OP's personal preference.
Only take 4 simple steps to load android
kompheak said:
Only take 4 simple steps to load android
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That's not the point! Ugh!!!
Lol... hows that not the point?
kompheak said:
Lol... hows that not the point?
Read the original post:
streakau said:
So, I just got a stock hd2 with winmo 6.5 and would like to install wp7 can somebody please explain how I can do this.
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He's asking about WP7 and all you guys are doing is saying that Android is better/easier to install. That's not the point and doesn't answer the question. If you can't give feedback about the WP7 installation process, then why are you even posting here?
We all know that Android is "better", more versatile, easier to run. That's not even up for debate. So, why are you trying to convince him not to do something he wants to do. The HD2 is one of the most hackable phones around and it's hard to brick. Why not try WP7, Android, or both? Geesh!

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