[Q] Android on NAND (i.e. replacing windows mobile)? - Touch HD General

There are several thread teaching replacing winmo with android eg. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5540986&postcount=5 thread by tatnai
is this workable on blackstone as well?

fonixcat said:
There are several thread teaching replacing winmo with android eg. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5540986&postcount=5 thread by tatnai
is this workable on blackstone as well?
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There is already a thread about blackstone NAND. We're basically waiting for improvements in similar devices, because no / very few devs have a blackstone.
If you want faster improvement, buy/get a blackstone and donate it to one dev

is there a dev in holland ?

Is there a dev in Italy?
Sent from my GT-I9000

Eodun said:
There is already a thread about blackstone NAND. We're basically waiting for improvements in similar devices, because no / very few devs have a blackstone.
If you want faster improvement, buy/get a blackstone and donate it to one dev
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Exactly.
There are issues with GSM modem handling. I could load linux kernel from NAND but it hangs before Android boots. I don't understand the radio related code enough to fix it but someone eventually will do it. It works in HaRET because Winmo does all the dirty work (hardware initialization) and than Android takes over. Probably this is also the reason why WiFi kills 3G data and maybe other problems.

g3rm0 said:
Exactly.
There are issues with GSM modem handling. I could load linux kernel from NAND but it hangs before Android boots. I don't understand the radio related code enough to fix it but someone eventually will do it. It works in HaRET because Winmo does all the dirty work (hardware initialization) and than Android takes over. Probably this is also the reason why WiFi kills 3G data and maybe other problems.
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i think thats why battery is draining SUPER fast, and clock is desyncing..
two basic things for daily use!

but i've already seen nand for htc h2, and i think its quietly similar...

mirko185 said:
but i've already seen nand for htc h2, and i think its quietly similar...
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Not similar at all. Different generation devices, different hardware... HD2 was almost identical (at least at a instruction level) as another native android device I don't remember, so they had almost all work done.

The Desire ?

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[Q] Is there a PURE android rom for HD2?

I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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Short answer, no there is not. Long answer, they have come surprisingly far in porting Android to the HD2 but there is still a lot of work to be done. The developers here are flat out amazing for making it as far as they have in as short a time as they have but as of right now no it's not a "pure" ROM if by pure you mean replaces WinMo. It currently only runs off of your SDcard and shuts down the Windows Kernel to boot the Linux Kernel... But like I said, it really seems like they're not far off from what you're inquiring about which I can only assume is a NAND version.
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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It has been stated several times now that it is NOT EMULATED. Haret shuts down the Windows Kernel and starts up the Linux kernel. There is no trace of Windows running. It's done this way for several reasons - No touching the internal memory of the phone whilst in beta to prevent bricking, easier to apply rapid updates and the main reason is that it's still needed to initialise hardware.
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
Wrathlon said:
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
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And yeah, as far as the color limitation... What HE said, heh.
Wrathlon said:
It has been stated several times now that it is NOT EMULATED. Haret shuts down the Windows Kernel and starts up the Linux kernel. There is no trace of Windows running. It's done this way for several reasons - No touching the internal memory of the phone whilst in beta to prevent bricking, easier to apply rapid updates and the main reason is that it's still needed to initialise hardware.
As for the screen color, that's a physical hardware limitation. The LCD Panel is a 65k Panel. You can't change that.
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Thanks for your reply!
boyhandsome said:
I heard that current android rom for HD2 is actually a simulater over WM. So there are some restrictions i.e. the screen color is still 65K please advise whether there is a PURE android rom for HD2, thanks. I am wonder whether wait for HTC Desire HD or buy HD2 now.
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Hi, it is not a simulator or an emulator.
However, it is started from windows currently whilst development continues.
Once development is complete I assume it will be available to boot from the phones internal rom (nand).
jjones1983 said:
Short answer, no there is not. Long answer, they have come surprisingly far in porting Android to the HD2 but there is still a lot of work to be done. The developers here are flat out amazing for making it as far as they have in as short a time as they have but as of right now no it's not a "pure" ROM if by pure you mean replaces WinMo. It currently only runs off of your SDcard and shuts down the Windows Kernel to boot the Linux Kernel... But like I said, it really seems like they're not far off from what you're inquiring about which I can only assume is a NAND version.
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OK. Then I wait for more mature HD2 android ROM and the specs of Dsire HD.
aenedor said:
Hi, it is not a simulator or an emulator.
However, it is started from windows currently whilst development continues.
Once development is complete I assume it will be available to boot from the phones internal rom (nand).
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Thanks for your reply!
I thought the LCD itself was 16M colors, but it was winmo which was limiting to 65k. This isn't true?
2girls1cup said:
why don't u do some research u fuggin cumquat...u should have a post count of at least 50 before you are able to create a thread. just my opin
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Well, this thread helped me a lot! I just wanted a heads up about android development on the HD2 and I didn't have to do any search! I mean, wow...
2girls1cup said:
why don't u do some research u fuggin cumquat...u should have a post count of at least 50 before you are able to create a thread. just my opin
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It is of course better if I can do my research on my own. However, English is not my mother language, so I have problem to read through all the technical issues. I will try to learn more.
appelflap said:
Well, this thread helped me a lot! I just wanted a heads up about android development on the HD2 and I didn't have to do any search! I mean, wow...
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Seconded, I've been Googling for a definitive answer for several days now, coming up with all sorts of conflicting information (such as the app at: androidforhd2.tk -- is that app just a hoax? Watching it in Process Explorer, it seems to do pretty much nothing but animate a progress bar using VB...).
This thread is by far the most recent/straightforward answer I could've hoped for.

when will android be useble?

when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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It is unlike this will every take place. The complications with NAND and drivers for the Leo are the issue. Even the phone is similar to other HTC devices hard is different to drivers are as well. In the case of the Leo it will likely not happened. If you want a Android device I suggest you move from the Leo.
I understand the 4.3" screen is difficult to match on a carrier like T-Mobile. I personal just left Verizon where I had the Droid X. Android is nice but I was more focused on a phone with a nice hardware and set up.
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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Android is useable now.
Waiting for Devs to release it to NAND although it works flawlessly from the SD Card well at least mine does
Boot from Startup is NAND and won't be released untill it is finished.
The guy above this post is an idiot. It won't be long before it replaces winmo completely so stick with your HD2 as WP7 might be an option in the next few months or so as well.
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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Im sure, instead of wasting our valuable time, you could have spent some of yours searching through these threads and reading the state of the world of Android on the HTC Leo. But you didn't you chose to let loose another regurgitated thread asking the same question people have been asking for the last year.
Please read before posting.
Usable?
Usable? Um... I have not used winmo for about 2-3 months. If you have not tried it yet you should. There are several extremely stable builds right now. I recently switched from Bangsters to mdeejay evo revolution, only because I wanted to try a Sense build. Sound/voice quality is perfect, data speeds excellent, no issues with mms or any other functionality. Battery is also very good. Not as good as winmo, but very close, and who doesnt have a charger at their desk or in their car these days?
Sure you may lose data connection occasionally (maybe 1-2 times a week), but cycling airplane mode clears that up. The issues with android today are no worse than the shortcomings of winmo.
Its not like you lose winmo by loading up an android build. Just do it, you will not go back.
thanks for all the replays
my question is awnserd
and tanks for all of your aponions
ps i did search
koendegr said:
ps i did search
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Just didn't read
I'd say that, provided that you are willing to read the forums to troubleshoot your issues, android on the hd2 is as capable as any other current android handset.
How to disable Active Sync security?
Hi
I'm sure this is an issue already solved and even discussed here. I did the search.
Could you tell me where to find software which will disable Active Sync security feature on Sence Revolution 2.2?
I have installed LockPicker already but I'm not able to get it work properly.
Thanks in advanced.

[SUGGESTION][CHEFS][BOOTLOADER]-Why chefs should move on to cLK..

I am very sorry if this is not appropriate, but I strongly believe that cedesmith's Little Kernel bootloader should be part of our HD2 lifes and CHEFS should adopt it for their own gains. For those who are only interested.
If this is considered inappropriate, please remove this thread from your forum.
Six main reasons why i believe so:
1. three-command complete ROM flash in less than 2min using fastboot
testing becomes joy
2. operating system independent
no need to load "Windows"
3. no bootloader specific screen to interrupt booting unless you want it
doesnt feel nice
4. open source, can be edited and upgraded
XDA is what is all about
5. native android feel and look
this is what we have all been looking for
6. Ability to use ClockWork Recovery as well
for those who still prefer CWR.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901305
Thanks
I can't care less about the no reply in here message. Devs are aware of it and some of the added cLK to the support list and even the official kernel added the patches for it.
What I don't understand is why would you want for everyone to 'move' to cLK?
Cause you don't see the MAGLDR interface while booting? Is that really the reason?
For the fastboot option which most of the user don't know how to use it? (have you've seen how bright are some posts from all these threads?)
For all bugs it has with the PPP connection or with RMNET (I think the last one doesn't even work)?
Cause it's open source? I really can't care less if Cotulla will never release the source for it, thanks to his hard work (and all the others) I can still keep a two years old phone faster that a Galaxy S.
Cause it doesn't look like a Android phone while booting? Go buy a phone running Android natively since it's clear you don't understand that this is not a native Android phone.
Oh and what's that booting into Windows??! Really?! After all this time you still couldn't read that MAGLDR doesn't boot Windows before it loads?! And you bash it?!
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
To be clear, I'm not a Cotulla fan boy (tho I don't think I thanked him enough for his work) but really I haven't seen cedesmith working with the others on MAGLDR and because MAGLDR was so tested and all the drivers/kernels/modules builds were so carefully done and tested we can enjoy Android on HD2 running without bricking our devices (unless you are a completely m0r0n ofc).
Now a admin could please move this thread to the Q&A section please? And please don't ban me for too long for my outrage but since everyone can post on forums... Maybe you could add some: developer only write access to sections? Like this section only developers can open threads
Well, i myself think differently. I think all devs should support CLK, not actually move to it, but support it. I think that in the near future that will be possible.
I myself love CLK, and have no problems with PPP. Specially the fastboot commands were really cool. Of course, this isn't for everyone, just the more advanced users.
And about cedesmith doing it in 5 days/a week, well congrats to him. He should be proud! Of course if he had released it before MAGLDR things would have been different. But we should just all be proud that we have such amazing devs like Cotulla and Cedesmith on our HD2 community.
I also love the fact that we have the option of choice, between CLK and Magldr. If it weren't for the fact that not all roms support CLK, I'd still be using it. So you see, some of us would like to see all roms supporting both magldr and clk.
Just my 2 cents.
Why the cheefs should move? You can run nearly every Image within cLK. Imilka's brand new 2.3.3 with Sense is the only Image which will currently not run on my device. But I guess this is independent from the Image because I think it's a problem of my device.
I only have tested round about 20 Images - and every image is working with cLK. If you have questions how to run it - just ask.
But I guess it's not fair to claim to a really good work from Cotulla.
Use it and teach yourself to solve issues with cLK. Btw, in the meantime I'm also using the cLK but it's only in cause of having a faked native ANDROID device. I like this funny thing.
Last words to this Thread. Someone should close it.
Thanks!
Both of them, cotulla and cedesmith, are simply amazing and great devs in this XDA community.
regards,
morisa
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You can choose any you like,clk or magldr.I like magldr .clk just support android but magldr support android and wp7 .
dlsniper said:
I can't care less about the no reply in here message. Devs are aware of it and some of the added cLK to the support list and even the official kernel added the patches for it.
What I don't understand is why would you want for everyone to 'move' to cLK?
Cause you don't see the MAGLDR interface while booting? Is that really the reason?
For the fastboot option which most of the user don't know how to use it? (have you've seen how bright are some posts from all these threads?)
For all bugs it has with the PPP connection or with RMNET (I think the last one doesn't even work)?
Cause it's open source? I really can't care less if Cotulla will never release the source for it, thanks to his hard work (and all the others) I can still keep a two years old phone faster that a Galaxy S.
Cause it doesn't look like a Android phone while booting? Go buy a phone running Android natively since it's clear you don't understand that this is not a native Android phone.
Oh and what's that booting into Windows??! Really?! After all this time you still couldn't read that MAGLDR doesn't boot Windows before it loads?! And you bash it?!
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
To be clear, I'm not a Cotulla fan boy (tho I don't think I thanked him enough for his work) but really I haven't seen cedesmith working with the others on MAGLDR and because MAGLDR was so tested and all the drivers/kernels/modules builds were so carefully done and tested we can enjoy Android on HD2 running without bricking our devices (unless you are a completely m0r0n ofc).
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+1
This shows exactly how i feel about this.
Also, i think this post should be moved to the proper section or closed.
dlsniper said:
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
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Dude, I don't see what's wrong if he built it one day or 5 days..If it works well then what's the problem in it? And besides he did not actually built it, he ported it to HD2 from some other open source project...and FYI he's made several contributions to HD2 community before also..
I agree with OP, since its open source it should be promoted. Chef's should look into adding support for cLK also, you never know in future somebody develops it further into more functional program, although I'm not in favor dumping MAGLDR, its a great piece of software and still is more superior to clk in some ways...both can co-exist
dlsniper said:
What I don't understand is why would you want for everyone to 'move' to cLK?
For the fastboot option which most of the user don't know how to use it? (have you've seen how bright are some posts from all these threads?)
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he didn't say everyone, read again
dlsniper said:
For all bugs it has with the PPP connection or with RMNET (I think the last one doesn't even work)?
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is this an issue that can't be solved with the involvement of the more knowledgeable people here?
dlsniper said:
Cause it's open source? I really can't care less if Cotulla will never release the source for it, thanks to his hard work (and all the others) I can still keep a two years old phone faster that a Galaxy S.
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this has nothing to do with cotulla.
dlsniper said:
Cause it doesn't look like a Android phone while booting? Go buy a phone running Android natively since it's clear you don't understand that this is not a native Android phone.
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completely unnecessary from you...
dlsniper said:
Oh and what's that booting into Windows??! Really?! After all this time you still couldn't read that MAGLDR doesn't boot Windows before it loads?! And you bash it?!
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again, he didn't say that. he meant you can flash clk without windows
dlsniper said:
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
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you twisted cedesmith's words, he didn't say it like you're trying to show here. very very rude and disrespectful from you...
dlsniper said:
To be clear, I'm not a Cotulla fan boy (tho I don't think I thanked him enough for his work) but really I haven't seen cedesmith working with the others on MAGLDR and because MAGLDR was so tested and all the drivers/kernels/modules builds were so carefully done and tested we can enjoy Android on HD2 running without bricking our devices (unless you are a completely m0r0n ofc).
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i am very grateful to cotulla myself and i'm also one of many who donated to him. he is probably the most important developer for our device but i think it won't hurt to have other talented people like him around, don't you think?
There is no reason to be a hater or fanboy of either bootloaders. They are just that, bootloaders. Pros and cons exist for both. We should be glad we even have a choice to run android nand on our Windows Mobile device. Anyone remember the SD card days of booting into WM6.5 followed by starting android? lol.
I personally run cLK since it meets my needs. But lets not forget Magldr can boot WP7 and android SD builds.... If I needed either one of those, Magldr would be the clear choice.
Let's keep this thread civil. Please stick to the topic and don't flame people for their opinions. thanks
noellenchris
g30rg10u said:
I am very sorry if this is not appropriate, but I strongly believe that cedesmith's Little Kernel bootloader should be part of our HD2 lifes and CHEFS should adopt it for their own gains. For those who are only interested.
If this is considered inappropriate, please remove this thread from your forum.
Six main reasons why i believe so:
1. three-command complete ROM flash in less than 2min using fastboot
testing becomes joy
2. operating system independent
no need to load "Windows"
3. no bootloader specific screen to interrupt booting unless you want it
doesnt feel nice
4. open source, can be edited and upgraded
XDA is what is all about
5. native android feel and look
this is what we have all been looking for
6. Ability to use ClockWork Recovery as well
for those who still prefer CWR.
********* PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD. NO NEED. REFER TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD FOR QUESTIONS ********************
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901305
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You're smart enough to know the advantages of cLK over magldr but yet you post a request for developers in the NAND Dev section? Come on dude.....
i wanted to reply for the criticism but this guy covered me completely.
Originally Posted by dlsniper
What I don't understand is why would you want for everyone to 'move' to cLK?
For the fastboot option which most of the user don't know how to use it? (have you've seen how bright are some posts from all these threads?)
he didn't say everyone, read again
Originally Posted by dlsniper
For all bugs it has with the PPP connection or with RMNET (I think the last one doesn't even work)?
is this an issue that can't be solved with the involvement of the more knowledgeable people here?
Originally Posted by dlsniper
Cause it's open source? I really can't care less if Cotulla will never release the source for it, thanks to his hard work (and all the others) I can still keep a two years old phone faster that a Galaxy S.
this has nothing to do with cotulla.
Originally Posted by dlsniper
Cause it doesn't look like a Android phone while booting? Go buy a phone running Android natively since it's clear you don't understand that this is not a native Android phone.
completely unnecessary from you...
Originally Posted by dlsniper
Oh and what's that booting into Windows??! Really?! After all this time you still couldn't read that MAGLDR doesn't boot Windows before it loads?! And you bash it?!
again, he didn't say that. he meant you can flash clk without windows
Originally Posted by dlsniper
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
you twisted cedesmith's words, he didn't say it like you're trying to show here. very very rude and disrespectful from you...
Originally Posted by dlsniper
To be clear, I'm not a Cotulla fan boy (tho I don't think I thanked him enough for his work) but really I haven't seen cedesmith working with the others on MAGLDR and because MAGLDR was so tested and all the drivers/kernels/modules builds were so carefully done and tested we can enjoy Android on HD2 running without bricking our devices (unless you are a completely m0r0n ofc).
i am very grateful to cotulla myself and i'm also one of many who donated to him. he is probably the most important developer for our device but i think it won't hurt to have other talented people like him around, don't you think?
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as for the last one.. yes Android NAND Dev was the forum i chose, because here chefs post their builds/roms.
Thanks and apologies if anyone got upset. never had negative intentions, never said anything bad about MAGLDR nor Cotulla, but for native Linux/OSX users, booting into Windows and wait 25min to flash (PC windows not WinMo) is not as pleasant as you might think .
I will move to it when the ROMS I use do. I was using an HTC Magic in the past so I'll do everything to reach the full-Android experience from Boot to shutdown...
DannyBiker said:
I will move to it when the ROMS I use do. I was using an HTC Magic in the past so I'll do everything to reach the full-Android experience from Boot to shutdown...
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All you have to do is swap out the initrd, to a supported one, and get a cLK kernel

[Q] Android of NAND version has been finished on TP2.Is it possibe for Blackstone

News come from:
forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2-development/134598-nand-boot-testing-03-24-frx05-nand-testing-new-ril.html
As I know the nand version take the haret and android all into NAND.
seems good news
Wow i'm very happy !!!!
andreik said:
Wow i'm very happy !!!!
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I'm so happy too....
This needs a little clarification:
TP2 NAND Android is NOT finished. It's not working for GSM TP2 users for some reason. I've tried porting this to Blackstone a while ago and it didn't work (yeah, Blackstone is GSM too...). I can try again when they fix this issue - there's a good chance it will work with only small modifications.
g3rm0 said:
This needs a little clarification:
TP2 NAND Android is NOT finished. It's not working for GSM TP2 users for some reason. I've tried porting this to Blackstone a while ago and it didn't work (yeah, Blackstone is GSM too...). I can try again when they fix this issue - there's a good chance it will work with only small modifications.
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Great! I totally agree you and waiting your good news!
I think the same of you, and waiting for the version for our HD.
g3rm0 said:
This needs a little clarification:
TP2 NAND Android is NOT finished. It's not working for GSM TP2 users for some reason. I've tried porting this to Blackstone a while ago and it didn't work (yeah, Blackstone is GSM too...). I can try again when they fix this issue - there's a good chance it will work with only small modifications.
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excuse me, does that NAND for hd , is just a haret and android roms on NAND?i mean the wm'bootloader(not professional) boot the system then give to haret??
i dont know exactly about it , but i think it's different from hd2's nand android,isn't it??
wei2005yh said:
excuse me, does that NAND for hd , is just a haret and android roms on NAND?i mean the wm'bootloader(not professional) boot the system then give to haret??
i dont know exactly about it , but i think it's different from hd2's nand android,isn't it??
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NAND on Blackstone is not working yet, but it will be like in HD2 - Winmo will be completely removed.
Hi, has there been any further developments for NAND based Android for the Touch HD T8282?
Thanks in advance
Chris
Any news about the HTC Android NAND HD Blackstone.
I do not understand why it is so difficult to work in the blackstone if they are very similar in features and hardware to the HTC HD Blackstone.
epatul said:
Any news about the HTC Android NAND HD Blackstone.
I do not understand why it is so difficult to work in the blackstone if they are very similar in features and hardware to the HTC HD Blackstone.
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Similar =/= identical. Even the small change in hardware require different drivers. Since documentation for our devices is not available to public trying to fix anything is even harder. Imagine writing the code for device when you can't be sure how it should work - you can only guess and see what happens. Plus the original kernel wasn't meant for NAND so there's a lot of things that have to be redone. Be patient - NAND for Blackstone WILL happen some day.
Any progress on NAND for Blackstone Touch HD please?

[Q] Urgent --- Stable + Fast Android , is that possible ?

Hi guys,
I have to install Android on a customer's blackstone..
I want to install him a Stable (everything working : Wifi, Camera, GPS, GSM network, speaker, ..), and almost fast ROM under Android 2.2 or 2.3
Tried every available ROM. Some are not working for me, some are unstable (Froyo X Camera : I can't get the camera working / FRX06 : I can't get wifi working : many errors / Blazn won't boot / .. ).
I saw there are many modules and zImage available, and other files..
Could someone send me, please, a full packaging of a completely working ROM ?
Or just explain me/ Tell me how to install a working order rom ?
Thank you VERY much !
Read other threads / search forums
I searched for 3 days.. Just nothing stable
I found that some people were using Froyo X Camera with camera app working, but I'm unable to do it, even following the tutorial.. They don't explain more..
Wait for Nand or buy a 2G-no class µSD card as many issues are caused by µSD cards.
Any way, any stable Android you could find 'd not last more than 12h so I'wd'nt propose that to a customer...
Hi dear compatriot
I have to bring his phone back tomorrow, then I have to do a rapid choice..
I succeed with FroyoXRed, seems faster & more stable with some files I found randomly on the web (rootfs, ..) , now with Camera..
But if somebody has a "fast/stable" complete android ROM, please upload it
zebra363 said:
Hi dear compatriot
I have to bring his phone back tomorrow, then I have to do a rapid choice..
I succeed with FroyoXRed, seems faster & more stable with some files I found randomly on the web (rootfs, ..) , now with Camera..
But if somebody has a "fast/stable" complete android ROM, please upload it
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As I have now an Android device, any XDAndroid related files have been trashed and I'm waiting patiently for NAND.
Can't help you no more than givin you Tiad8 and Rootfs
Just my opinion after much persuasion HTC Android for the adoption of its system
Neither the assembly does not work well, it's only for playing and testing. The problem is battery malfunction components (cam, bt, usb,...), restarts, etc.
Perhaps NAND see how it will be a solution orig Android.
Good luck and patience during installation, I have not yet surrendered.
sorry my english
The problem is: there is yet no android ROM. It will come soon, check tiad8's site as jeanfrederic said. He is working on it.
i have used GBX0A for two weeks,or so...and i had no problems with it,everything worked fine,even 2D and 3D...and i had not even one SOD (sleep of death)
you can find it @ xdandroid.com in their repository
zebra363 said:
I have to install Android on a customer's blackstone..
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Sorry... I don't understand this... you HAVE to?
Simply explain that Blackstone is NOT Android specced phone, and that maybe even TIANDROID (Tiad8's NAND Android) will not bring it to full stability/speed/usability.
Originally Posted by zebra363 View Post
I have to install Android on a customer's blackstone..
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Tell the customer his a .... (you can decide) the Touch HD / Blackstone is a Windows Mobile Device ! Android wont run, Well to a point, but it not stable enough to be used as a day to day system, As many features dont work, Like
Camera, GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth,
If your " Customer " wants Android tell him to either get the HD2 / Leo or a dedicated Android Phone,
The List
- HTC
- Samsung
- Motorola
- ZTL / ZTE ?
- Orange
Is Endluss......
jeanfrederic said:
As I have now an Android device, any XDAndroid related files have been trashed and I'm waiting patiently for NAND.
Can't help you no more than givin you Tiad8 and Rootfs
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Why are you sending people AWAY from xda-devs? XDAndroid is hands down the best Android build(s). tiad8 got banned from xda-devs for a good reason! Don't direct people to his site, shame on you!
Edit - just read the OP in detail, what do you mean a 'customers phone'? I wouldn't install this on someone else's phone unless they are well aware that this is not stable or ready for primetime yet.
arrrghhh said:
Why are you sending people AWAY from xda-devs? XDAndroid is hands down the best Android build(s). tiad8 got banned from xda-devs for a good reason! Don't direct people to his site, shame on you!
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Is he? for what reason then?
Kapie said:
Is he? for what reason then?
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Many reasons. Main one being warez. Other reasons being kanging, and creating puppies. I'm not a mod tho, I didn't ban him...
ooh interesting I didn't know that, also what is kanging and creating puppies?
Lothaen said:
ooh interesting I didn't know that, also what is kanging and creating puppies?
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Stealing binaries (can't steal open source code...), creating accounts to get around a ban respectively.
arrrghhh said:
Stealing binaries (can't steal open source code...), creating accounts to get around a ban respectively.
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who cares hes gonna bring android to htc blackstone
mickeystar said:
who cares hes gonna bring android to htc blackstone
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Uhm, I care. Devs care. Anyone who cares about the actual developers should care... they're the ones doing the hard work/heavy lifting.
Also, XDAndroid already runs on the Blackstone... I guess I need to create some threads over here to remind everyone? I can do that.
Not on NAND!!!
runs on SD card and it sucks bals!!!
bairro said:
Not on NAND!!!
runs on SD card and it sucks bals!!!
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NAND isn't stable yet for any device that XDAndroid runs on...
Hoping it will be one day, but it won't be because of tiad8 lol. He has admitted at least once that he is not working on Blackstone NAND.

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