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Hey I am new to flashing. I have changed the roms on g1's, and on the nexus one per different youtube vidoes and stuff i have read in this forum.
Yesterday i purchased the HD2 and to my horror found out that it was running on Windows Mobile (WTF). So i have been loking around and I saw that in the past the forum has been able to get Touch Pro 2 that run on WM6.5 to dual boot into android.
So I am hoping that the same can be done with the HD2. So is the HSPL2 listed in this forum the beginning steps to this process or what? Has anyone yet setup the HD2 to run on android?
I know this is wordy but I just want to make it understood that I am new and I want to learn and that I have the desire to get android on my HD2.
thanks any suggested reading is welcome as the steps to get android on this awesome phone that HTC FUBAR'd with WM6.5
The HD2 cannot run android at this time.
oberonblaq said:
Hey I am new to flashing. I have changed the roms on g1's, and on the nexus one per different youtube vidoes and stuff i have read in this forum.
Yesterday i purchased the HD2 and to my horror found out that it was running on Windows Mobile (WTF). So i have been loking around and I saw that in the past the forum has been able to get Touch Pro 2 that run on WM6.5 to dual boot into android.
So I am hoping that the same can be done with the HD2. So is the HSPL2 listed in this forum the beginning steps to this process or what? Has anyone yet setup the HD2 to run on android?
I know this is wordy but I just want to make it understood that I am new and I want to learn and that I have the desire to get android on my HD2.
thanks any suggested reading is welcome as the steps to get android on this awesome phone that HTC FUBAR'd with WM6.5
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No, it's not quite there at this time. However, while I understand your opinion, I don't think HTC "FUBAR'd" at all. I've had a few Android devices and this phone is AMAZING, even with WM.
this has been discussed already at length.. if you look in the ROMS section of the forum you'll find it ..
And it is NOT going to happen soon..
Android on the HD2 will be amazing! Hopefully they can get it ported by summer to compete with the HTC EVO.
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Android on the HD2 will be amazing! Hopefully they can get it ported by summer to compete with the HTC EVO.
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i believe that is the plan to see how the EVO goes.. but here's the link to the other thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637029
...this is not true,
There is an engineer at the local Tmobile call center dual booting Android and winmo. He runs Android off of the card itself. The phone that is dual booting is at the kiosk at the LaPlaza mall in Mcallen TX and has been used as their demo phone.
How is he doing it? I have no idea, but hes told myself and a Tmobile sales buddy that he'll help us out with it.
So, you purchased the phone without realizing its a WM phone, and have the balls to complain, all because you didnt read, and now are asking if you can put android on it...lazy much?
I suppose you want someone to flash it for you too, or better yet start another thread asking how to do that...
Didn't you see the windows mobile on the box...
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...this is not true,
There is an engineer at the local Tmobile call center dual booting Android and winmo. He runs Android off of the card itself. The phone that is dual booting is at the kiosk at the LaPlaza mall in Mcallen TX and has been used as their demo phone.
How is he doing it? I have no idea, but hes told myself and a Tmobile sales buddy that he'll help us out with it.
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You're saying he's booting android on a hd2? I doubt it. Are you sure its not a TP2? There is an andriod port for the TP2.
I'm not sure how you purchased the phone without knowing the underlying OS, but I'm guessing you bought it in the US for Tmobile. If that is the case, and I'm guessing it is, then you can't flash any ROMs for it yet because of the different SPL.
tuck4x4 said:
...this is not true,
There is an engineer at the local Tmobile call center dual booting Android and winmo. He runs Android off of the card itself. The phone that is dual booting is at the kiosk at the LaPlaza mall in Mcallen TX and has been used as their demo phone.
How is he doing it? I have no idea, but hes told myself and a Tmobile sales buddy that he'll help us out with it.
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I seriously doubt this. Maybe you had it confused with an HD or a TP2, but I doubt xda wouldn't know about this...especially since it's most likely to originate here. A picture to prove this would be great, but I don't expect it.
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You're saying he's booting android on a hd2? I doubt it. Are you sure its not a TP2? There is an andriod port for the TP2.
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it sounds sketch but a guy at my tmobile told me that HTC had given one of the coworkers a website run by themself that had android software for the HD2. So hearing that i find it believable.
zstjohn said:
it sounds sketch but a guy at my tmobile told me that HTC had given one of the coworkers a website run by themself that had android software for the HD2. So hearing that i find it believable.
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Oh hey, it's another case of "A moron rep was spewing nonsense and i actually believed him." Go back and ask the rep if he could show you WP7S running on HD2.
lude219 said:
Oh hey, it's another case of "A moron rep was spewing nonsense and i actually believed him." Go back and ask the rep if he could show you WP7S running on HD2.
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Look, senor tinyballs. If you don't like what i have to say then ignore it. Here-say is here-say i never said it was fact.
zstjohn said:
Look, senor tinyballs. If you don't like what i have to say then ignore it. Here-say is here-say i never said it was fact.
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it was enough for you to believed him.
Someone please close this thread, it's going nowhere useful. Destination Flameville.
foney said:
So, you purchased the phone without realizing its a WM phone, and have the balls to complain, all because you didnt read, and now are asking if you can put android on it...lazy much?
I suppose you want someone to flash it for you too, or better yet start another thread asking how to do that...
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Bro are you for real?! Please dont waste my time with that smart mouth crap unless you are adding solutions along with it. I am not knocking your opinion I am just stating that maybe you should adjust the delivery system. Cause we both can play the a$$hole game and I promise you thats one I will not lose. So be constructive or dont post.
thanks
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Hey I am new to flashing. I have changed the roms on g1's, and on the nexus one per different youtube vidoes and stuff i have read in this forum.
Yesterday i purchased the HD2 and to my horror found out that it was running on Windows Mobile (WTF). So i have been loking around and I saw that in the past the forum has been able to get Touch Pro 2 that run on WM6.5 to dual boot into android.
So I am hoping that the same can be done with the HD2. So is the HSPL2 listed in this forum the beginning steps to this process or what? Has anyone yet setup the HD2 to run on android?
I know this is wordy but I just want to make it understood that I am new and I want to learn and that I have the desire to get android on my HD2.
thanks any suggested reading is welcome as the steps to get android on this awesome phone that HTC FUBAR'd with WM6.5
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wow, to buy a phone and later realize what os it's running on. that's just realy wow.
oberonblaq said:
Bro are you for real?! Please dont waste my time with that smart mouth crap unless you are adding solutions along with it. I am not knocking your opinion I am just stating that maybe you should adjust the delivery system. Cause we both can play the a$$hole game and I promise you thats one I will not lose. So be constructive or dont post.
thanks
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you want solutions and are talking about constructive? how about using the search button? this question is already been asked like 100 times?
I would just like to thank everyone that replied. I guess i just need to wait a bit longer for the xda big brains to resolve this issue. I just thought that it would have been a simpler thing to do since the HD2 in UK had been flashed to run android. I have plenty on time and money so I can buy another device and wait.
Thanks again all.
oberonblaq said:
HD2 in UK had been flashed to run android
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News to me! I've seen it running on other devices, but even then it's beta, with various functionality still unavailable, WIFI etc.
If you wanted Android, a little research before hand should and would have been wise, i.e. waiting for the EVO to be released.
I like WinMo 6.5. It may not be as pretty as Android or iPhone OS (without the Sense gui which is quite lovely imho) but it's a very versatile and an incredibly powerful tool in the hands of the right user. If you're in a business environment, using Microsoft equipment, exchange servers etc, there is not an more efficient handheld device to carry in you pocket (again, imho).
First of all I can't code myself..
Second I don't know if I'm allowed to ask questions here
But does anyone know if it would be possible porting psgroove to android, I'm not asking if it has been done just if it is possible.
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Yeah this would be really great. I do know an iPhone version is being worked on.
I hope someone manages to do it, the phones should be more than capable of running it aslong as the software has control over the USB port. Although I think it should be possible since I've seen software to make your phone a USB host for nexus and desire.
this guy is
http://twitter.com/qberty1337
and him to
http://twitter.com/netzke
http://netzke.blogspot.com/
What does this mean and how does it work... does it mean this:
Simple drag and drop data files onto our micro sd, then usb the android to the ps3 and it'll serve the same purpose as the dongle does? AKA, no need to buy psjailbreak or any other accesories?!?!
Yep that's basically what it means
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http://netzke.blogspot.com/
hes been working on it and according to him it should be complete sept. 3rd
"Off for now I will be back in a few hours.
I have been working at this for over 30 hours straight now. I'm off to get some sleep. I will be sure to get you guys a special gift tomorrow HINT"
cant wait
i think this is fake, do not donate to be a beta tester!
he has screenshots of the app up, who knows
a-money said:
he has screenshots of the app up, who knows
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wait for the video he is promising, also wait for others to confirm. Making an app is simple, making one that actually does what it claims is completely different.
I find it strange that he is asking for donations for an ipod/iphone when he hasnt finished the android port first, seems fishy but i am hoping for the best and waiting.
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he has screenshots of the app up, who knows
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Looks like App Inventor
Coffeinchen said:
Looks like App Inventor
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does that mean its fake? we just have to wait and see
that mostly is a fake always he talk's about is an app that does everything but you have to patch the android kernel so as to make it access the low-level functions that we need.the android system is like a sandbox which wont allow an user to access the low-level stuff.But hey it's been promising KaKaRoTo came up with a n900 version of it.Hope some1 can p0rt it over to an android device
After extensive google search I have came my personal opinion (everyone has one) that this will happen in the future. The software used to make this is open source. Since android is based off of open source somebody will be able to make this happen. I personaly am not smart enough to do this. I see a lot of sites promoting this to happen with jailbroken iphones in the "near future" more but for it to happen with android phones is very proberble as well
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After extensive google search I have came my personal opinion (everyone has one) that this will happen in the future. The software used to make this is open source. Since android is based off of open source somebody will be able to make this happen. I personaly am not smart enough to do this. I see a lot of sites promoting this to happen with jailbroken iphones in the "near future" more but for it to happen with android phones is very proberble as well
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well it'll come in a day or two.just let kakaroto release his source code which he'll be doin tomorrow hopefully.then the android specific ports will soon follow in ^_^
Guys, I seriously think this netzke guy is deceiving everyone. Normally I don't like to be in this position calling someone a liar, but his blog posts are very awkward.
http://netzke.blogspot.com/
He just posted this:
I've been working pretty hard through this. I will be taking a few hours to sleep now. Your comments may not appear for several hours because of this. I'm not sure what the rest of the team is planning to do. Chances are they will also be taking a break for a few hours.
Beta for Iphone is open now. Beta release in the next week +- 3 days.
Beta for android is still open but we will be closing it soon
$15 will get you into the beta for sure. Others may or may not be selected given the large amount of applications. So your best way in is to donate.
A video will be released within the next few days. of both the iOS port and the Android port.
Those who do donate may not receive confirmation for a while. But we will try our best.
Donate button is on the top right for those who have been asking.
Thanks for understanding that people have to sleep
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I made this comment on his previous post, but he did not approve it:
Ok, I'm starting to loose my faith that you are actually doing something. Time to show some proof. In all of your posts you didn't say anything technical about your progress. What did you accomplish so far? What are your main issues right now? You've been wasting more time asking for donation than in actual development. As for your screenshots, anyone with basic Android coding skills could make an Activity with buttons triggering Toasts in less than 10 min. Where is the video you promised?
AND FOR THE REST OF YOU FOLKS:
I can't believe there so many people dumb enough to give this guy money without him actually delivering anything useful.
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What do you guys think?
Nicely put
http://github.com/kakaroto/PSFreedom
kakaroto released his source - Let it begin!
chrs2021 said:
http://github.com/kakaroto/PSFreedom
kakaroto released his source - Let it begin!
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It wont be long now
dragon1018 said:
It wont be long now
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may not even have to make an app for it..
readme has info on where to edit if you want to port it.
so you could just edit for the usb controller on HTC phones, compile to the linux app, then run it through a terminal.
would be an interesting idea anyway
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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It is unlike this will every take place. The complications with NAND and drivers for the Leo are the issue. Even the phone is similar to other HTC devices hard is different to drivers are as well. In the case of the Leo it will likely not happened. If you want a Android device I suggest you move from the Leo.
I understand the 4.3" screen is difficult to match on a carrier like T-Mobile. I personal just left Verizon where I had the Droid X. Android is nice but I was more focused on a phone with a nice hardware and set up.
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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Android is useable now.
Waiting for Devs to release it to NAND although it works flawlessly from the SD Card well at least mine does
Boot from Startup is NAND and won't be released untill it is finished.
The guy above this post is an idiot. It won't be long before it replaces winmo completely so stick with your HD2 as WP7 might be an option in the next few months or so as well.
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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Im sure, instead of wasting our valuable time, you could have spent some of yours searching through these threads and reading the state of the world of Android on the HTC Leo. But you didn't you chose to let loose another regurgitated thread asking the same question people have been asking for the last year.
Please read before posting.
Usable?
Usable? Um... I have not used winmo for about 2-3 months. If you have not tried it yet you should. There are several extremely stable builds right now. I recently switched from Bangsters to mdeejay evo revolution, only because I wanted to try a Sense build. Sound/voice quality is perfect, data speeds excellent, no issues with mms or any other functionality. Battery is also very good. Not as good as winmo, but very close, and who doesnt have a charger at their desk or in their car these days?
Sure you may lose data connection occasionally (maybe 1-2 times a week), but cycling airplane mode clears that up. The issues with android today are no worse than the shortcomings of winmo.
Its not like you lose winmo by loading up an android build. Just do it, you will not go back.
thanks for all the replays
my question is awnserd
and tanks for all of your aponions
ps i did search
koendegr said:
ps i did search
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Just didn't read
I'd say that, provided that you are willing to read the forums to troubleshoot your issues, android on the hd2 is as capable as any other current android handset.
How to disable Active Sync security?
Hi
I'm sure this is an issue already solved and even discussed here. I did the search.
Could you tell me where to find software which will disable Active Sync security feature on Sence Revolution 2.2?
I have installed LockPicker already but I'm not able to get it work properly.
Thanks in advanced.
Hello fellow HD2 users,
i'm a noob at all of this rom stuff and i've seen some great roms out there to try out but with my luck i'll just brick my phone nevertheless i would definitely try the windows phone 7. is there a rom available?please help out this noob
dizz
klazzwon said:
Hello fellow HD2 users,
i'm a noob at all of this rom stuff and i've seen some great roms out there to try out but with my luck i'll just brick my phone nevertheless i would definitely try the windows phone 7. is there a rom available?please help out this noob
dizz
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welcome to xda.
to answer you question, no there is no wp7 rom available for hd2. there are themes that emulate it.
additionally, this has been asked with new threads about it quite a bit...please do use the search function.
again, welcome.
Wow...awesome answer! Saved me the trouble
Really?
I saw a video over on BGR website showing a working port of windows phone 7 on an HD2 Here is the link if you want to check it out, but I would love Windows phone 7 on my HD2 if at all possible.
http://www.bgr.com/2010/11/07/windows-phone-7-ported-to-the-htc-hd2-again-shows-more-promise/
We have all seen that video, and it's currently unknown if that is real, or just an emulator image...because it certainly isn't RTM, nor are the chinese releaseing the image to anyone.
ashasaur said:
We have all seen that video, and it's currently unknown if that is real, or just an emulator image...because it certainly isn't RTM, nor are the chinese releaseing the image to anyone.
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Looks legit running side by side with the HTC Surround though doesn't it? I guess it could be black magic.
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We have all seen that video, and it's currently unknown if that is real, or just an emulator image...because it certainly isn't RTM, nor are the chinese releaseing the image to anyone.
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Really because to my knowledge XDA China is responsible for the port and video,...Guess I could be wrong...I always am according to the wife LOL
Right, but XDA China is in no way affiliated with XDA-Developers, and the chinese are not releaseing any information on their "port" until, according to their words, "enough people are mad enough that it's not out yet". So yeah, personally I think it's fake.
In another thread, another Chinese guy called the number from the video a couple times and talked to the maker of the video. First he said that if the rom was flashed, there was no way of going back to winmo... then the last time he talked to him he said something about it being false.
What I heard, and what I believe to be true now, is that the Chinese got whole of one of the wp7 test hd2s that m$ used to test and develop wp7. Its well known they used hd2 to test in the early stages, and it doesn't surprise me that one of these devices surfaced. Unfortunately, I have a feeling we will never know for sure what was used for the video. I think we're still a long way away from using wp7 on our hd2.
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In another thread, another Chinese guy called the number from the video a couple times and talked to the maker of the video. First he said that if the rom was flashed, there was no way of going back to winmo... then the last time he talked to him he said something about it being false.
What I heard, and what I believe to be true now, is that the Chinese got whole of one of the wp7 test hd2s that m$ used to test and develop wp7. Its well known they used hd2 to test in the early stages, and it doesn't surprise me that one of these devices surfaced. Unfortunately, I have a feeling we will never know for sure what was used for the video. I think we're still a long way away from using wp7 on our hd2.
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Now that makes total sense, I can see how that could have unfolded.
I am very sorry if this is not appropriate, but I strongly believe that cedesmith's Little Kernel bootloader should be part of our HD2 lifes and CHEFS should adopt it for their own gains. For those who are only interested.
If this is considered inappropriate, please remove this thread from your forum.
Six main reasons why i believe so:
1. three-command complete ROM flash in less than 2min using fastboot
testing becomes joy
2. operating system independent
no need to load "Windows"
3. no bootloader specific screen to interrupt booting unless you want it
doesnt feel nice
4. open source, can be edited and upgraded
XDA is what is all about
5. native android feel and look
this is what we have all been looking for
6. Ability to use ClockWork Recovery as well
for those who still prefer CWR.
********* PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD. NO NEED. REFER TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD FOR QUESTIONS ********************
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901305
Thanks
I can't care less about the no reply in here message. Devs are aware of it and some of the added cLK to the support list and even the official kernel added the patches for it.
What I don't understand is why would you want for everyone to 'move' to cLK?
Cause you don't see the MAGLDR interface while booting? Is that really the reason?
For the fastboot option which most of the user don't know how to use it? (have you've seen how bright are some posts from all these threads?)
For all bugs it has with the PPP connection or with RMNET (I think the last one doesn't even work)?
Cause it's open source? I really can't care less if Cotulla will never release the source for it, thanks to his hard work (and all the others) I can still keep a two years old phone faster that a Galaxy S.
Cause it doesn't look like a Android phone while booting? Go buy a phone running Android natively since it's clear you don't understand that this is not a native Android phone.
Oh and what's that booting into Windows??! Really?! After all this time you still couldn't read that MAGLDR doesn't boot Windows before it loads?! And you bash it?!
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
To be clear, I'm not a Cotulla fan boy (tho I don't think I thanked him enough for his work) but really I haven't seen cedesmith working with the others on MAGLDR and because MAGLDR was so tested and all the drivers/kernels/modules builds were so carefully done and tested we can enjoy Android on HD2 running without bricking our devices (unless you are a completely m0r0n ofc).
Now a admin could please move this thread to the Q&A section please? And please don't ban me for too long for my outrage but since everyone can post on forums... Maybe you could add some: developer only write access to sections? Like this section only developers can open threads
Well, i myself think differently. I think all devs should support CLK, not actually move to it, but support it. I think that in the near future that will be possible.
I myself love CLK, and have no problems with PPP. Specially the fastboot commands were really cool. Of course, this isn't for everyone, just the more advanced users.
And about cedesmith doing it in 5 days/a week, well congrats to him. He should be proud! Of course if he had released it before MAGLDR things would have been different. But we should just all be proud that we have such amazing devs like Cotulla and Cedesmith on our HD2 community.
I also love the fact that we have the option of choice, between CLK and Magldr. If it weren't for the fact that not all roms support CLK, I'd still be using it. So you see, some of us would like to see all roms supporting both magldr and clk.
Just my 2 cents.
Why the cheefs should move? You can run nearly every Image within cLK. Imilka's brand new 2.3.3 with Sense is the only Image which will currently not run on my device. But I guess this is independent from the Image because I think it's a problem of my device.
I only have tested round about 20 Images - and every image is working with cLK. If you have questions how to run it - just ask.
But I guess it's not fair to claim to a really good work from Cotulla.
Use it and teach yourself to solve issues with cLK. Btw, in the meantime I'm also using the cLK but it's only in cause of having a faked native ANDROID device. I like this funny thing.
Last words to this Thread. Someone should close it.
Thanks!
Both of them, cotulla and cedesmith, are simply amazing and great devs in this XDA community.
regards,
morisa
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You can choose any you like,clk or magldr.I like magldr .clk just support android but magldr support android and wp7 .
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I can't care less about the no reply in here message. Devs are aware of it and some of the added cLK to the support list and even the official kernel added the patches for it.
What I don't understand is why would you want for everyone to 'move' to cLK?
Cause you don't see the MAGLDR interface while booting? Is that really the reason?
For the fastboot option which most of the user don't know how to use it? (have you've seen how bright are some posts from all these threads?)
For all bugs it has with the PPP connection or with RMNET (I think the last one doesn't even work)?
Cause it's open source? I really can't care less if Cotulla will never release the source for it, thanks to his hard work (and all the others) I can still keep a two years old phone faster that a Galaxy S.
Cause it doesn't look like a Android phone while booting? Go buy a phone running Android natively since it's clear you don't understand that this is not a native Android phone.
Oh and what's that booting into Windows??! Really?! After all this time you still couldn't read that MAGLDR doesn't boot Windows before it loads?! And you bash it?!
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
To be clear, I'm not a Cotulla fan boy (tho I don't think I thanked him enough for his work) but really I haven't seen cedesmith working with the others on MAGLDR and because MAGLDR was so tested and all the drivers/kernels/modules builds were so carefully done and tested we can enjoy Android on HD2 running without bricking our devices (unless you are a completely m0r0n ofc).
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+1
This shows exactly how i feel about this.
Also, i think this post should be moved to the proper section or closed.
dlsniper said:
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
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Dude, I don't see what's wrong if he built it one day or 5 days..If it works well then what's the problem in it? And besides he did not actually built it, he ported it to HD2 from some other open source project...and FYI he's made several contributions to HD2 community before also..
I agree with OP, since its open source it should be promoted. Chef's should look into adding support for cLK also, you never know in future somebody develops it further into more functional program, although I'm not in favor dumping MAGLDR, its a great piece of software and still is more superior to clk in some ways...both can co-exist
dlsniper said:
What I don't understand is why would you want for everyone to 'move' to cLK?
For the fastboot option which most of the user don't know how to use it? (have you've seen how bright are some posts from all these threads?)
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he didn't say everyone, read again
dlsniper said:
For all bugs it has with the PPP connection or with RMNET (I think the last one doesn't even work)?
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is this an issue that can't be solved with the involvement of the more knowledgeable people here?
dlsniper said:
Cause it's open source? I really can't care less if Cotulla will never release the source for it, thanks to his hard work (and all the others) I can still keep a two years old phone faster that a Galaxy S.
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this has nothing to do with cotulla.
dlsniper said:
Cause it doesn't look like a Android phone while booting? Go buy a phone running Android natively since it's clear you don't understand that this is not a native Android phone.
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completely unnecessary from you...
dlsniper said:
Oh and what's that booting into Windows??! Really?! After all this time you still couldn't read that MAGLDR doesn't boot Windows before it loads?! And you bash it?!
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again, he didn't say that. he meant you can flash clk without windows
dlsniper said:
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
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you twisted cedesmith's words, he didn't say it like you're trying to show here. very very rude and disrespectful from you...
dlsniper said:
To be clear, I'm not a Cotulla fan boy (tho I don't think I thanked him enough for his work) but really I haven't seen cedesmith working with the others on MAGLDR and because MAGLDR was so tested and all the drivers/kernels/modules builds were so carefully done and tested we can enjoy Android on HD2 running without bricking our devices (unless you are a completely m0r0n ofc).
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i am very grateful to cotulla myself and i'm also one of many who donated to him. he is probably the most important developer for our device but i think it won't hurt to have other talented people like him around, don't you think?
There is no reason to be a hater or fanboy of either bootloaders. They are just that, bootloaders. Pros and cons exist for both. We should be glad we even have a choice to run android nand on our Windows Mobile device. Anyone remember the SD card days of booting into WM6.5 followed by starting android? lol.
I personally run cLK since it meets my needs. But lets not forget Magldr can boot WP7 and android SD builds.... If I needed either one of those, Magldr would be the clear choice.
Let's keep this thread civil. Please stick to the topic and don't flame people for their opinions. thanks
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g30rg10u said:
I am very sorry if this is not appropriate, but I strongly believe that cedesmith's Little Kernel bootloader should be part of our HD2 lifes and CHEFS should adopt it for their own gains. For those who are only interested.
If this is considered inappropriate, please remove this thread from your forum.
Six main reasons why i believe so:
1. three-command complete ROM flash in less than 2min using fastboot
testing becomes joy
2. operating system independent
no need to load "Windows"
3. no bootloader specific screen to interrupt booting unless you want it
doesnt feel nice
4. open source, can be edited and upgraded
XDA is what is all about
5. native android feel and look
this is what we have all been looking for
6. Ability to use ClockWork Recovery as well
for those who still prefer CWR.
********* PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD. NO NEED. REFER TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD FOR QUESTIONS ********************
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901305
Thanks
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You're smart enough to know the advantages of cLK over magldr but yet you post a request for developers in the NAND Dev section? Come on dude.....
i wanted to reply for the criticism but this guy covered me completely.
Originally Posted by dlsniper
What I don't understand is why would you want for everyone to 'move' to cLK?
For the fastboot option which most of the user don't know how to use it? (have you've seen how bright are some posts from all these threads?)
he didn't say everyone, read again
Originally Posted by dlsniper
For all bugs it has with the PPP connection or with RMNET (I think the last one doesn't even work)?
is this an issue that can't be solved with the involvement of the more knowledgeable people here?
Originally Posted by dlsniper
Cause it's open source? I really can't care less if Cotulla will never release the source for it, thanks to his hard work (and all the others) I can still keep a two years old phone faster that a Galaxy S.
this has nothing to do with cotulla.
Originally Posted by dlsniper
Cause it doesn't look like a Android phone while booting? Go buy a phone running Android natively since it's clear you don't understand that this is not a native Android phone.
completely unnecessary from you...
Originally Posted by dlsniper
Oh and what's that booting into Windows??! Really?! After all this time you still couldn't read that MAGLDR doesn't boot Windows before it loads?! And you bash it?!
again, he didn't say that. he meant you can flash clk without windows
Originally Posted by dlsniper
As a final word... I remember cedesmith saying something like this: I got bored waiting for Cotulla to release MAGLDR so this is my 5 days work (or something very close, 1 week top) to run Android natively on the phone. Dude?! Really?! You got bored to wait about 4 months and you did it in 5 days?! Really?! Why did you do it in the summer then?
you twisted cedesmith's words, he didn't say it like you're trying to show here. very very rude and disrespectful from you...
Originally Posted by dlsniper
To be clear, I'm not a Cotulla fan boy (tho I don't think I thanked him enough for his work) but really I haven't seen cedesmith working with the others on MAGLDR and because MAGLDR was so tested and all the drivers/kernels/modules builds were so carefully done and tested we can enjoy Android on HD2 running without bricking our devices (unless you are a completely m0r0n ofc).
i am very grateful to cotulla myself and i'm also one of many who donated to him. he is probably the most important developer for our device but i think it won't hurt to have other talented people like him around, don't you think?
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as for the last one.. yes Android NAND Dev was the forum i chose, because here chefs post their builds/roms.
Thanks and apologies if anyone got upset. never had negative intentions, never said anything bad about MAGLDR nor Cotulla, but for native Linux/OSX users, booting into Windows and wait 25min to flash (PC windows not WinMo) is not as pleasant as you might think .
I will move to it when the ROMS I use do. I was using an HTC Magic in the past so I'll do everything to reach the full-Android experience from Boot to shutdown...
DannyBiker said:
I will move to it when the ROMS I use do. I was using an HTC Magic in the past so I'll do everything to reach the full-Android experience from Boot to shutdown...
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All you have to do is swap out the initrd, to a supported one, and get a cLK kernel