Has anyone taken their Omnnia 7 apart yet to see if you can replace the microSD card with a higher capacity one?
It's been done on the HD7 so we need a brave volunteer to try the same on the Omnia.
This is really intriguing to me... if anyone does it please take lots of pics!
You're on the OMNIA 7 has a MicroSD slot?
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You're on the OMNIA 7 has a MicroSD slot?
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No, not a normal slot.
In some mobile phones with windows 7, the MicroSD is hidden inside.
You cannot access without unscrewing, and it voids the warranty.
The phone must be taken apart into pieces to find the MicroSD, it is not one you just change for different music all the time!
We need a person to volunteer to take apart their phone!
Windows Phone uses a special high–performance SD card that works differently than SD cards in other devices.-Microsoft
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exFAT disk format maybe?
I have an Omnia 7 testing device and I am willing to disassemble it. But I really don't know where to start with this. Seems that the phone can be disassembled only with special tools that I don't have...
Omnia must have a slot like the HD7?
Got this from a link (I am a new user: so can't post links yet: here's a goo.gl/Vi0e)
While the Omnia 7 has an microSD slot, it isn’t your run of the mill one. The microSD card that comes with the device is essentially locked to the device. If you remove the card, it will make the phone inoperable. I did read a tip that this may change later on, or if you swap cards and reformat then you have to suffer with losing your data, but that hasn’t been officially verified yet. Also someone will probably figure out a hack or way to copy the formatting scheme over to a new card to avoid losing your data, so don’t fret too much about this.
Just got delivery of Samsung Omnia 7.
I'm trying to open it up but I can only get access to 1 screw..the other ones are partially or fully obstructed!
@karthikraman - there is no card locking going on and upgrading memory is fully supported by MS. It just has its own special procedure and consequences. Too many tech writers have been reporting this as if it's some kind of hardware hack special to the HD7. Nonsense, as I said it's supported and designed to work that way.
Manufacturers have decided to hide the cards inside. Maybe they thought that was safer so that people didn’t swap in new cards and complain their phones had stopped working or, if they did the hard reset, that they had lost all their data.
Anyway, all we need to know is whether we can get to the SD card in the Omnia 7 or not. If we can the upgrade ought to work.
@lvoky - Can you post pictures or describe what tools you need?
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@lvoky - Can you post pictures or describe what tools you need?
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Well, I can post some pictures later, but generally, as hboos mentioned, the screwes under the battery cover are partially obstructed with the rest of the phones casing... Which means that before unscrewing these, the casing has to be somehow removed. There are no other screws on the phones body, so I guess the plastic top and bottom part of the phone has to be "unclicked" somehow. Or maybe we have to begin from the display, like with iPhone 3G for example...
OK, I have got it apart, but haven't found the SD card yet.
Where the slider is for the USB charger, use a small screwdriver & gently prise the plasic up (with the slider open), gently work your way around to get the complete cover off.
There you will find three screws, once these are rmoved the end will come off, after which you can slide the metal case off. You can then access all the screws.
HTH, Vince
VinceRothwell said:
OK, I have got it apart, but haven't found the SD card yet.
Where the slider is for the USB charger, use a small screwdriver & gently prise the plasic up (with the slider open), gently work your way around to get the complete cover off.
There you will find three screws, once these are rmoved the end will come off, after which you can slide the metal case off. You can then access all the screws.
HTH, Vince
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take photos and videos if you can would love to get a 32gb card in my omnia
Thanks Vince!
Taking it apart just now!
Just for clarity...to take the first bit off, open the usb slider and put a screw driver in to take off the plastic from the END of the phone... then everything is easy from there.
is it possible for the microsd card to be underneath the sim card slot or inside the area with the antennae?
Update:
I've pretty much dismantled the whole thing...just need to get the screen off and I can't seem to locate teh sd card.....it might be underneath the samsung sticker?
I have two photos but don\t knoiw hwo to put them up...they are 1.5 mb in size
Right guys,
After faffing around with this...the microSD card must be located just beneath the screen..unfortunately, I am unable to check for sure because the board has connections glued on to the sides for the power, camera and volume buttons..
what a downer
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HTC, and maybe Motorola, is known to use microSD card for internal storage in various phones. Samsung, on the other hand, doesn't do that normally. All the Galaxy S phones have flash chips mounted directly on the circuit board. Samsung makes those flash chips, so it makes no sense for Samsung to use someone else's microSD cards.
Nice try and thanks for giving it a go.
Here's more info on the official position from MS:
http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2010/10/29/microsoft-speaks-on-micro-sd-and-windows-phone-storage-expansion/
I said on an HD7 thread that I think they are just being really careful and making sure they minimise potential problems - they don't need the launch to collapse with any Apple-antenna type bad press.
I think I've decided to go for an HD7 and will probably upgrade the memory once I've used up the 16GB.
there is no card in omnia7
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Has anyone taken their Omnnia 7 apart yet to see if you can replace the microSD card with a higher capacity one?
It's been done on the HD7 so we need a brave volunteer to try the same on the Omnia.
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here's proof
Pity about that. I thought it would be upgradable but I was wrong
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Pity about that. I thought it would be upgradable but I was wrong
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Well on the bright side at least we wont have the memory failures prominent in SD-cards Charlie Kindel spoke about.
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Beginning of the year my younger brother gave me his replaced HTC Touch from Telus (which I believe is the Vogue - correct me if I'm wrong). I used it for all of 2 weeks before it cracked in my pocket (huge rage moment).
I've got a Sapphire now, so it's cool, but I just found this busted phone. I still boots and I can hear sounds coming from it, but the screen is still toast (of course).
So, is there anything cool or fun or useful I can do with it? I'm not afraid of getting dirty or technical with it.
Here's a picture:
http://twitpic.com/lyjju
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get a new screen?
Is it worth the cost? And where do I get one?
(I post before googling, mostly to get more responses, but off I go...)
I found a couple of replacement parts. I guess the screen for the Vogue and Elf are the same.
Now theres two things here:
OEM LCD Screen Display $50 US
https://www.gsm4world.us/htc-touch-oem-lcd-screen-display-d-01230_238.html
OEM LCD Digitizer/touch screen $20 US
https://www.gsm4world.us/htc-touch-oem-lcd-digitizer-touch-screen-d-01246_238.html
What's the difference? I'm fearful of the second one only being the touch input, and that I'd actually need to replace the screen, which is $50 US (and I'm in Canada - pushes it high enough not to be worth it).
Anyone got a broked model with a working screen they want to send me?
I was hoping I could do something without a screen. Like run a TF2 server or host a file share. (I hope you get the sarcasm)
you could sell it... check ebay for the lcd screen and you might save a little money.
aaziz said:
I found a couple of replacement parts. I guess the screen for the Vogue and Elf are the same.
Now theres two things here:
OEM LCD Screen Display $50 US
https://www.gsm4world.us/htc-touch-oem-lcd-screen-display-d-01230_238.html
OEM LCD Digitizer/touch screen $20 US
https://www.gsm4world.us/htc-touch-oem-lcd-digitizer-touch-screen-d-01246_238.html
What's the difference? I'm fearful of the second one only being the touch input, and that I'd actually need to replace the screen, which is $50 US (and I'm in Canada - pushes it high enough not to be worth it).
Anyone got a broked model with a working screen they want to send me?
I was hoping I could do something without a screen. Like run a TF2 server or host a file share. (I hope you get the sarcasm)
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looks like the cost is more than what the phone is worth now. did you try ebay?
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looks like the cost is more than what the phone is worth now. did you try ebay?
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Yeah, found this: http://cgi.ebay.ca/LCD-Screen-HTC-C...QptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a53e3cd35#payId
$35 US, shipping from China. I'll have to do more looking when I'm not in the office and get some time.
can you access the internal memory using active sync? if you can, you can place a .lnk of any program installed on your phone into the /windows/startup/ folder and have it run automatically on boot. trying to think of a program that would be useful without the screen, coming up with blanks right now.
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can you access the internal memory using active sync? if you can, you can place a .lnk of any program installed on your phone into the /windows/startup/ folder and have it run automatically on boot. trying to think of a program that would be useful without the screen, coming up with blanks right now.
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Not sure, I've never done this before. Perhaps I'll try some of that this weekend. It's not really important for me, just something cool to do.
Screenless Device
interesting.. Lol.. I am in Canada looking for a Touch Vogue Cell (doesn't matter what provider as I am pretty sure they are all the same except for Roms and Wifi. )that I can use for parts.. My Touch sensor died, was hoping to get one that was mostly in tact as I can use the touch sensor and the Casing to fix mine.. If you want to be able to do stuff still you can actually, get ActiveSyc working and use My Mobiler and you can do everything you need to through a computer as well.. Is how I do most of my major stuff like txting and settings etc..
Just some random thoughts..
PM ME if you want to talk
I mostly just want to use it as a phone. I've got a Magic from Rogers that work pays for, but my girlfriend's phone is crap. I've seen screens for these things for about $50 around... I may try to take this apart and see if I can get the screen off. If I can, it may be worth a shot.
Are you saying you'd be interested in taking this shell off my hands? I'm pretty sure it's only the screen because I can turn it on and still here things and clicking and whatnot.
continuing on tatnai's thought....I guess you could set it up to act as an ipod shuffle listen to mp3's without a screen. you could have the music link boot from start and set it to be the only thing that runs and bam you have an mp3 player. Also can be used for a paper weight
Note that taking apart the Vogue is hard without the right equipment. You need a fivesided screwdriver (T5) as well as a plastic prying tool. I recently replaced my digitizer and it was fairly easy with these tools (they came with the new digitizer)
If you want a guide to disasembling the vogue, this is what I used.
http://mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/OSeven%27s%20Disassembly%20Guide%20to%20the%20HTC%20Touch%20-%20Elf%20.pdf
Hey, thanks a lot. I'll keep that guide handy. I don't have a plastic tool, but I should be able to make due with some other things around my tool box.
I personally thought my Vogue is one of the easier phones I've disassembled (had to air it out and redo the LCD flex - water damage). You just need a T5 which you've probably got in a screwdriver set somewhere.
Replacing the display itself would be *very* straightforward - disassemble, remove and reinsert one flex cable and two screws, and reassemble. You aren't going to get much out of it without a display, sadly.
As a note, I had the most trouble putting mine together because of the SD card door on the side - try not to let it fall off during disassembly as it's got some rubber tethers that are mildly tricky to put back. It's not exactly a disaster if it comes off though - it took me maybe 30 seconds. Was frustrating though.
Should be good as a card reader, microSD of course.
Get a big enough microSD card and it's a portable drive...slow and there're cheaper and/or faster alternatives...but something to brag about.
I dropped my phone and turned it back on and it said "No SD card please insert a new SD card," so I took off the back and looked for where the SD should be and I can't find it? Where's the slot?
IT should be on the top left side (looking from the back on your device). You have to open the backcover.
Ok I found it. I took it out and put it back in and turned the phone back on but it still says there's no SD card inserted?
try taking it out while your hero is turned on. Then put it back in.
Try restarting phone without SD in,... then once fully booted, insert SD again.
If thats a no-go, you may have broken something.
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try taking it out while your hero is turned on. Then put it back in.
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Try restarting phone without SD in,... then once fully booted, insert SD again.
If thats a no-go, you may have broken something.
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Alright I tried both of those and it didn't help, so I just tried the SD from my other phone and it worked perfectly. I guess the Hero's SD is just broken, but it's weird that just dropping the phone one time could break the SD card?
There are also 2 smudges on the bottom of the screen, you can see one on the right of the word "Phone" and another smaller one on the bottom left of the Phone button. They're like little brown dots and they look like dirt but they're on the inside of the screen. Is there any way to fix these? If not, anyone wanna buy a Hero lol?
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To the SD cards, they are very fragile, the slightest drop in the wrong place can fracture them inside causing them to be unreadable.
For the screen, have you tried opening and cleaning under the glass?
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Looking at the image again, they may even be dead pixels ad they are illuminating and not just blocking the light, not too sure on that though.
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To the SD cards, they are very fragile, the slightest drop in the wrong place can fracture them inside causing them to be unreadable.
For the screen, have you tried opening and cleaning under the glass?
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Do you need a special tool to open up the phone?
Torx 5, Phillips 0, flat plastic stick and some plastic tweezers I think.
There is a video around for it, if you go to accessories section and replacement case/fascist it is in there.
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captainstu72 said:
Torx 5, Phillips 0, flat plastic stick and some plastic tweezers I think.
There is a video around for it, if you go to accessories section and replacement case/fascist it is in there.
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Yeah, I agree. A "fascist" can help you fix the dead pixels. If nothing else he can read "Mein Kampf" to the little lazy guys until they get up and start saluting
I'm just kidding. What I am saying is of no help but I just found the confusion too funny.
What he actually meant was "fascia".
What i meant to say and what swype put was something completely different!
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Thats the link Thanks sychie!
Alright fixed it. I got pissed off today because it wasn't getting reception so I threw it on the ground, and when I picked it back up the little smudges were gone lol.
Sooooooo, I replaced my internal sd card with a 4gb class 10. I used the "cut away the plastic" covering the card method because I was too lazy to take the phone apart. Now the phone will not turn on. Tried placing the original card back in......still nothing. Plug the phone in and I get a battery symbol with a yellow triangle and exclamation mark. Any thoughts?
I pried up the one edge of the piece of plastic that I removed which was close to the contact for the back cover, so maybe I messed up that contact and the phone thinks the cover is not on there? Was there not a fix for the Streak to eliminate the need for the back cover to be on for powering up?
Any help is sincerely appreciated since I now have no phone, which is clearly not going to be warrantied. Congratulations me
Don't know if this helps because it requires what you didn't want to do - take your Streak apart. But a quick look at that tutorial and it seems that the 'switch' for the back cover is not near the internal sd card, so perhaps your problem is something different?
Did you do a reset from the recovery? I believe that you need to di that to initialize the new sd card?
There are a few threads here and at MoDaCo dealing with the replacement of the internal sd card, more reading may be in order.
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The innerSD is the black square in the top right corner, slightly to the top and right of the sd card picture (that is the outerSD slot)
The battery cover switch is near where the greenish square in the bottom left corner.
It's possible he might have damaged a trace that connects the switch, but it seems a bit unlikely for it to run exactly where cut and also happened to be the only trace damaged.
You could try installing streakdroid as it ignores the batt cover switch, assuming that's the only issue
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The innerSD is the black square in the top right corner, slightly to the top and right of the sd card picture (that is the outerSD slot)
The battery cover switch is near where the greenish square in the bottom left corner.
It's possible he might have damaged a trace that connects the switch, but it seems a bit unlikely for it to run exactly where cut and also happened to be the only trace damaged.
You could try installing streakdroid as it ignores the batt cover switch, assuming that's the only issue
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Can we use microSD card reader for innerSD card too? Does fixing innerSD helps power on our device(not booting but just power on)?
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Can we use microSD card reader for innerSD card too? Does fixing innerSD helps power on our device(not booting but just power on)?
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The inner SD Card is just a 'normal' micro sd card, so yes if you remove it you can put it in a card reader.
Whether making sure that the inner card is working properly it will fix your problem is unknown.
If you have not taken your Streak apart I recommend cutting the area above the inner card to remove it. I have done this to two Streaks with no issues. YMMV.
Thank you marvin,
Ill try it tomorrow, hope it will fix the device.
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The innerSD is formatted in ext3, so you'd need to be able to read ext3 partitions if you wanted to examine it's contents
A few days ago I used TheManii's guide for flashing an image to the innerSD and it went off without a hitch, and solved a small error I was getting when booting into recovery. So if you want to eliminate a variable, I would highly recommend that so you know it has nothing to do with your problem
Everything explained in this thread
You have to remove the chip from your sim card and place it on your SD Card
Has anybody ever tried this method? As I think doing this could possibly damage your SIM card.
i tried to create this "sandwich" too, but if i had compared my first product with the very tiny slot, i have stopped development until now. A sandwich like this isn’t so necessary for me.
This is not my post, but you can see there some pics about the way you have to go then:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/honor-7-2x-sim-plus-micro-sd-karte-gleichzeitig-nutzen.733080/
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DarkGuyver said:
Has anybody ever tried this method? As I think doing this could possibly damage your SIM card.
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In this video you have how to do this only not for Honor 7 but other simmilar devices
Hi i did it yesterday and everything is perfect. Only what i do is separate chip from nanosim by iron and glue it on sd card
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Guys is there any way to connect microsd and chip from sim card without glue ? I dont want to destroy my 64 GB card and also I would like to use in future diffrenet sim so to glue it is not a option
micz133 said:
Guys is there any way to connect microsd and chip from sim card without glue ? I dont want to destroy my 64 GB card and also I would like to use in future diffrenet sim so to glue it is not a option
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I suppose anything not strong enough will avoid the correct contact from the card reader. From my small experience (only made it twice) the SIM position is crucial and a slight misalignment is enough for malfunction.
So:
1 - You have to make the SIM really thin to fit the SIM tray with the microSD, thus "destroying" it for future reapplications.
2 - The microSD is easily reused, just by gently and patiently removing the SIM and glue remains. Also, no metal part from the microSD is harmed.
You can always ask for a SIM replacement or a twin card. I have 2 with the same number and I can do all there is to do with either one.
I don't care about destryoing my sim card it can be easly replaced, worry about microsdcard if I glue a sim card to it how can I remove it in future ? Supeglue is kinda strong
Has anyone had an real success with this? I've separated the SIM contact from the plastic backing and removed any excess. I've trimmed all excess from the SIM contact (so no overlap with the tray) and have temporally stuck the SIM contact to MicroSD card with double-sided stick tape but no matter what I do I cannot get the SIM tray to slide back into the phone because the combo of the MicoSD + SIM contact is too thick. I even tried it without double side tape to see if if would go in but still no joy. Anyone got any ideas because there's seemingly nothing left to remove from the SIM contact or MicorSD. BTW, I'm using Vodafone UK SIM and 64GB Samsung MicroSD.
yes it's working for 5 month now. it's really Hard to get the sandwich into the Phone but it works and can be removed. if anything except the sim chip is removed You have to glue it on the sd. all other isn't strong enough and is too fat. Small drop off glue is enough and the sim can be removed from sd with cutter knife. tested it and sim and sd still working fine... Bend the edges from the sim a little down before gluing it so they don't jam up in the Phone
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yes it's working for 5 month now. it's really Hard to get the sandwich into the Phone but it works and can be removed. if anything except the sim chip is removed You have to glue it on the sd. all other isn't strong enough and is too fat. Small drop off glue is enough and the sim can be removed from sd with cutter knife. tested it and sim and sd still working fine... Bend the edges from the sim a little down before gluing it so they don't jam up in the Phone
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OK, now I have a big problem. I glued the SIM to the MicroSD using a tiny bit of thinly spread glue and the SIM stuck fine. I then tried to install the MicroSD/SIM hybrid into the phone and it was very tight. I g and jiggled and it JUST went it in with a firm press. The phone recognises the SIM but can't see the MicroSD so I've come take it out and try again but the SIM tray is stuck inside the phone and will not come out. I thought about removing the rear casing to help with this but the screw holding the case is behind the lip of the SIM tray. I have no idea what to do next!!
Would really appreciate some help on this.
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OK, now I have a big problem. I glued the SIM to the MicroSD using a tiny bit of thinly spread glue and the SIM stuck fine. I then tried to install the MicroSD/SIM hybrid into the phone and it was very tight. I g and jiggled and it JUST went it in with a firm press. The phone recognises the SIM but can't see the MicroSD so I've come take it out and try again but the SIM tray is stuck inside the phone and will not come out. I thought about removing the rear casing to help with this but the screw holding the case is behind the lip of the SIM tray. I have no idea what to do next!!
Would really appreciate some help on this.
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I actually managed to release the tray with pliers and a strong thin nail pushed very hard into the release hole. It came free by a fraction of a mm, just enough to get a modelling knife edge into it to prise it open.
I've measured a few other MicroSD's and there are differences in thickness by +/- 0.1mm, which may well be enough to stop the hybrid card going in altogether. My Vodafone UK SIM was also very very slightly domed, not absolutely 100% flat.
The upshot of this is that it's imperative to check that the combined thickness of your SIM plate and MicroSD card will go in happily. I actually tried them together into the tray without any adhesive whatsoever and even this felt a very tight fit. I figured I'd stick them together and see if I could waggle them in - no I couldn't, of course it was even tighter.
This is a precautionary heads-up for anyone who thinks this is a simple and easy solution. In principle it is, in reality it can be a huge pain in the ass. Lesson learned.
Hey Mi Lover and other engineers!
You must deal with this problem have
The solution is simple
Without using special equipment
Only the amount of glue!
You must do the following steps in order to get the correct result
1- Pull out the metal part of the SIM card with razor blade
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2- Stick SIM card with amount of glue! (just a little!)
attention:
1- This work is very delicate so cut the around of sim card carefully with razor. (careful dont cut ur hand )
2- dont use amount of glue to stick sim card to sd card. (if u use a lot of glue the height of sd card will be increase and u cant placed sim's slot!
3- It's better use 3G sim card to do it (the IC's are smaller than 4G) if you use 4G press and smash edge of sim card to sleep on the sd card!
4- and last guidance is use 128gig smartphone it's difficult way if u are impatient!
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Thanks, tried with 4g sim and 64gb sandisk and works well. Used for 2 weeks now without any trouble.
Only the problem is I managed to put them in... it was hard to do so as it was thicker 4g sim. I used little force.
Now I worry how will I get them out (haven't tried yet)
Edit: After another week I tried to pull sim tray out and it came out ok.
Don't try this, I ruined my SD card as well as the SIM card. This works great, why take the risk?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nano-SIM-Ca...677615?hash=item4b0faf0d2f:g:WlwAAOSw5cNYgc~V
Well I have broken two sim cards when trying to install this way, all was in pretty good visual condition (not so ugly as above) and fits perfectly in the bed with sd card. Seems that sim card is very sensitive to any pressure when is "naked", but this extender is maybe some ugly solution.
The extender fits in my (flip cover) case without any problem and so the SIM card is very well hidden, you can't see or feel it. If you only use a silicon case you will slighty feel a little bump where the SIM card is attached.
dio62000 said:
The extender fits in my (flip cover) case without any problem and so the SIM card is very well hidden, you can't see or feel it. If you only use a silicon case you will slighty feel a little bump where the SIM card is attached.
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does it still work at android 8? a lot of people can't get pass it now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/sim-card-tray-slot-problem-to-sim-card-t3822368
daniel_tan81 said:
does it still work at android 8? a lot of people can't get pass it now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/sim-card-tray-slot-problem-to-sim-card-t3822368
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I don't know, on my Mi Max I'm still on Android 7 (using GlobeROM). On my Samsung Note 7 however, I'm using a custom ROM on Android 8 in which this option of simultaneously using 2SIM & SD was made available again (I thought Samsung had blocked this option, but it seems Android 8 is doing that...). So, I guess developers might know how to bypass this.
dio62000 said:
I don't know, on my Mi Max I'm still on Android 7 (using GlobeROM). On my Samsung Note 7 however, I'm using a custom ROM on Android 8 in which this option of simultaneously using 2SIM & SD was made available again (I thought Samsung had blocked this option, but it seems Android 8 is doing that...). So, I guess developers might know how to bypass this.
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sigh not sure if i want to jailbreak just for this
so far i haven had the need for jail break
i feel android have enough apps to do almost anything