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Hermes battery door release button problem - info/image request

The battery door on my vario II won't come off when I use the release button. Can't remember ever noticing how the clasp/mechanism worked, could somebody either describe it or take some photos so I can see how to remove the back door without doing any more damage?
Thanks
James

Is the vario II door the same as the TyTn door ? I can't remember, if it is I can describe and get a picture within half to 1 bour.
Mike

TyTn Battery Door catch
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Mike

Thank you! Though it doesn't look very good for finding a way to release the door without damaging it. Does it look possible to you?

cyst said:
Thank you! Though it doesn't look very good for finding a way to release the door without damaging it. Does it look possible to you?
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No it does not look easy. Does the little catch still slide back and forth easily on its spring?
Mike

yes it does.

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yes it does.
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This I think is bad news cos looking at the one I've got the back off at the moment, if the catch just slips out of engaging the white sliding catch mechanism then it gets really stiff. BUT there is a tiny prong on the black sliding catch that engages the white sliding catches!! (Sounds like this may have broken off, allowing catch to move freely because it's not engaging with anything.)
1. If it's under warranty I'd take it back and have a battle about whether you were "rough" or not, or whether their catch is crap.
2. You could prize up back cover. Not a good idea I think the back cover prongs will snap off.
3. Just dont't take back off!!
4. I think it may just be possible to remove the one screw (Torx) you can access with the cover on. Prize open the case just a fraction to allow a pin/needle to be used to slide the catch and release back. With the device face down you would need to pass the pin through above the central part of the catch and move the pin from right to left. You could in theory wthen completely remove the back housing and examine the catch.
Mike

hmm...well had a brain wave and gave the phone a bit of shake. Something inside definately rattles! On closer inspection it also appears as if half the clasp is working - moving the release switch makes the door move a tiny amount.
So it looks like i'll be going into t-mobile and seeing what they say!
Thanks for the help (I may need more if i can't get it replaced!)

Solution and slight embarrassment...
So, nothing was actually wrong as such!
I had been finding that my battery was getting hotter than I was happy with, so I had removed the sticker from the front of it to allow the heat to dissapate more efficiently. This had left a sticky residue on the battery which had stuck to the battery door.
So that's me feeling a bit stupid!

Just pleased it's problem solved - good news
Mike

The Funniest Thing Just Happened

I had my Universal in my back pocket when I sat on the car's seat. I felt it there right away so I got off the car and checked on the Universal, the screen'd gonr white with some colored lines! The phone was fully functional except for the screen.
Today I check the coxial cable but got nothing. Tried to play around just doing things with no luck.
I was hopeless, thought I'd pay loads for the screen. I went nuts and started to smack it on my desk. Guess what happened, it worked again!
I was like shocked and happy to see the screen back on ! I'm gonna check on it now, rotate the screen and so, lets see if it stays alive.
Cheers.

Try it again mate. If it works, we can add it to the wiki

good job!, I know a story like this!
my friend was playing with his Universal while breathing some fresh air out
then suddenly...ooooooooooooooooo
the Universal made its way down from the 2nd floor...
ofcourse after collecting its pieces (SD card, Battery cover, Battery, SIM, Stylus)...
going up and turn it on and its working! but with the same problem (white screen with color lines)....
my friend was pissed off..so he began to hit the desk near the device and the screen re-worked again!
and the device never went to the service until now...
this happened 6 months before!
the only things that left..some scratches and the broken cover!
strong Universal

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A story with a happy ending. Serendipity.
V

If you take a look at the Lcd screen on a universal there are connectors around the corners of the screen (probably find a pic on ebay).
My universal had a problem with a blue tint on the screen but with a squeeze near the upper left of the screen i heard a click and the problem went away.
chances are a swift bang may be resitting the connectors. you might want to try squeezing the corners either side of the screen before resulting to more extreme techniques.
Of course you could remove the covers and be sure of getting good connections

blackest_knight said:
If you take a look at the Lcd screen on a universal there are connectors around the corners of the screen (probably find a pic on ebay).
My universal had a problem with a blue tint on the screen but with a squeeze near the upper left of the screen i heard a click and the problem went away.
chances are a swift bang may be resitting the connectors. you might want to try squeezing the corners either side of the screen before resulting to more extreme techniques.
Of course you could remove the covers and be sure of getting good connections
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Just don't squeeze the corner too hard. I'm now looking for a new screen as I've got the dreaded 'bleeding ink' across the right-hand corner of mine.
Anyone know of a supplier of new screens?

MONGO Smashh!!!...............hmmmm Mongo fix
if it doubt whack the fker i say
p.s the above advice does not extended to women,children or bosses
p.p.s it can have a 50-50 chance of working on cars i find,but louder swearing does help

On an old PDA, I had one of them WiFi SD card thingies.
It was so temperamental and I thought it might have been the contacts or something.
Anyway, I took the WiFi SD apart and put the bare circuit board in the slot, it kinda got stuck, but that also made funny colours come on the screen.

extremely SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

ok i have a 8525 with vp3G 3.61 and radio 1.50. here recently - like after i dropped it in the sink full of water - if i try to do a reboot on it or power it down and go to power it back up wihOUT the microSD card in it is exceptionally slow. only does it with my microSD card not in it. any ideas? THanks

bmc357374 said:
ok i have a 8525 with vp3G 3.61 and radio 1.50. here recently - like after i dropped it in the sink full of water - if i try to do a reboot on it or power it down and go to power it back up wihOUT the microSD card in it is exceptionally slow. only does it with my microSD card not in it. any ideas? THanks
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I can only assume it is trying to load some application or file from the card. But you do not say what apps are installed at start up and whether they may have necessary files on the card.
Mike

mikechannon said:
I can only assume it is trying to load some application or file from the card. But you do not say what apps are installed at start up and whether they may have necessary files on the card.
Mike
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thanks mike...after thinking about what you said you were right. one of the apps in my HTC home plugin launcher thing is installed on the card. removed it from the launcher and restarted without the microsd card: problem solved. i dont know y i didnt think about that. maybe ill use the excuse its been a long week

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its been a long week
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Mike

lol that pretty much sums it up. thanks again

woah, you have dropped ur 8525 in a tub of water, submerging it compleatly, and it still works????

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woah, you have dropped ur 8525 in a tub of water, submerging it compleatly, and it still works????
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yup. i had just ran the dishwater in the sink with dish soap. sat the phone on the counter. roommate went to slide something in the sink without paying attention and knocked in my phone too. i come back into the kitchen and see some nice light shining up through the water. so of course i hurry up and pull it out. just as i was about to take the battery out the screen went black and white. put the blow dryer too it and 8 circulation fans for desktop computers. thought i had it dry so i tried powering it back on. screen was almost like an LCD monitor with a bad backlight with just ghost images. so i called AT&T and told them it just quit (i may have forgot to mention the sink incident). well ive already had 5 replacements since march for various reasons (mostly cuz i may have dropped them and they got scratched so i wanted a new one) but anyways they told me bring it to the store to verify there was no damage. which somehow the little sticker meant to check for moisture didnt change so i was figuring i was good. went to school the next day and left the phone in the front seat of my car for about 4 hours came back out and tried it again to make sure it was still gonna do the ghost image thing and low and behold it worked with no problem. screen came on normal in full color and everything. touch screen still works and everything. its like it never happened from what you said i guess im the first to successfully drop an 8525 into water, fully submerge it and it still worked.

Problem following Internal SD replacement

Sooooooo, I replaced my internal sd card with a 4gb class 10. I used the "cut away the plastic" covering the card method because I was too lazy to take the phone apart. Now the phone will not turn on. Tried placing the original card back in......still nothing. Plug the phone in and I get a battery symbol with a yellow triangle and exclamation mark. Any thoughts?
I pried up the one edge of the piece of plastic that I removed which was close to the contact for the back cover, so maybe I messed up that contact and the phone thinks the cover is not on there? Was there not a fix for the Streak to eliminate the need for the back cover to be on for powering up?
Any help is sincerely appreciated since I now have no phone, which is clearly not going to be warrantied. Congratulations me

Don't know if this helps because it requires what you didn't want to do - take your Streak apart. But a quick look at that tutorial and it seems that the 'switch' for the back cover is not near the internal sd card, so perhaps your problem is something different?
Did you do a reset from the recovery? I believe that you need to di that to initialize the new sd card?
There are a few threads here and at MoDaCo dealing with the replacement of the internal sd card, more reading may be in order.

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The innerSD is the black square in the top right corner, slightly to the top and right of the sd card picture (that is the outerSD slot)
The battery cover switch is near where the greenish square in the bottom left corner.
It's possible he might have damaged a trace that connects the switch, but it seems a bit unlikely for it to run exactly where cut and also happened to be the only trace damaged.
You could try installing streakdroid as it ignores the batt cover switch, assuming that's the only issue

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The innerSD is the black square in the top right corner, slightly to the top and right of the sd card picture (that is the outerSD slot)
The battery cover switch is near where the greenish square in the bottom left corner.
It's possible he might have damaged a trace that connects the switch, but it seems a bit unlikely for it to run exactly where cut and also happened to be the only trace damaged.
You could try installing streakdroid as it ignores the batt cover switch, assuming that's the only issue
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Can we use microSD card reader for innerSD card too? Does fixing innerSD helps power on our device(not booting but just power on)?

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Can we use microSD card reader for innerSD card too? Does fixing innerSD helps power on our device(not booting but just power on)?
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The inner SD Card is just a 'normal' micro sd card, so yes if you remove it you can put it in a card reader.
Whether making sure that the inner card is working properly it will fix your problem is unknown.
If you have not taken your Streak apart I recommend cutting the area above the inner card to remove it. I have done this to two Streaks with no issues. YMMV.

Thank you marvin,
Ill try it tomorrow, hope it will fix the device.
Sent from my Dell Venue using XDA App

The innerSD is formatted in ext3, so you'd need to be able to read ext3 partitions if you wanted to examine it's contents

A few days ago I used TheManii's guide for flashing an image to the innerSD and it went off without a hitch, and solved a small error I was getting when booting into recovery. So if you want to eliminate a variable, I would highly recommend that so you know it has nothing to do with your problem

Axon 7 Repair

I dropped my Axon 7. Though there's no visible damage, the phone will frequently freeze (not turn off) and just continue to display whatever was on the screen at the time. Or the the charging LED will remain on if it was just charging and not actually booted, even if I unplug the phone.
I opened it up and reconnected all the cables, but no luck.
Once it starts, if left gently on a table it will continue to run, but if I jostle it it will likely freeze.
I've been experimenting and know I get the same behavior if the phone is running on AC with the battery disconnected (I think that worked...) , or if I run unplugged with the battery.
Any ideas? Since I already have the phone open and don't much have to loose, I'm willing to attempt more surgery, but I'm not sure how to diagnose the fault. (Yes, past the 2 year damage warranty).
Happy for your thoughts and suggestions!

There was a post on here with the exact same scenario, if I remember correctly it was a cable to the screen/display.
I've dropped phones and sometimes the pins bend slightly so check the connection pins.
I even repaired one that fell into a bowl of milk

found something?
Syberclone said:
There was a post on here with the exact same scenario, if I remember correctly it was a cable to the screen/display.
I've dropped phones and sometimes the pins bend slightly so check the connection pins.
I even repaired one that fell into a bowl of milk
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Ok - What do you think about this? I can't tell if this is superficial. ($20 USB microscope I bought for my kids rocks)
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Assuming this is the issue, does replacing this cable mean removing the screen? I've heard that's hard...

I can't see from the pic properly but it is possible, the only way to know for sure is to compare with an original condition unit. (Looks better than some I've seen)
I was fortunate enough to have the same phone as a backup so I could check in my case.
Just make sure all connectors are snapped into place and no broken fragments in the connection.
I hope you get it sorted

Some pics of a brand new screen taken with my Axon and a small lens i had lying around

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I can't see from the pic properly but it is possible, the only way to know for sure is to compare with an original condition unit. (Looks better than some I've seen)
I was fortunate enough to have the same phone as a backup so I could check in my case.
Just make sure all connectors are snapped into place and no broken fragments in the connection.
I hope you get it sorted
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Just in case it wasn't clear what I was was keying in on.

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Just in case it wasn't clear what I was was keying in on.
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That's in the outermost part, it will surely not cause anything at all...

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That's in the outermost part, it will surely not cause anything at all...
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I was afraid of that. Back to the drawing board... or just wait for good Black Friday deals.