I already own an N1 that I bought at release, but I've always wanted to pick up an Employee version of the phone...as I've heard it has a significantly higher overclock capability, plus I love the back cover
Anybody know if these are possible to pick up, and if so, where?
Ebay.......
Sometimes I see one on ebay. But really, all I want is the fancy battery cover.
Is there actually a difference in cpu? How have I never heard of this lol
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Source for this? I have no idea how it would be more overclockable than any other nexus...faik it's just a fancy cover.
Employee copies were "BETA" devices, for testing purposes. I have heard from several developers that they had a higher overclock capability..
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Sometimes I see one on ebay. But really, all I want is the fancy battery cover.
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Me too. Anyone have a source?
A source for
1) A phone that hasn't been made for over a year
2) A phone that was never sold to the public
Sure. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ebay&l=1
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A source for
1) A phone that hasn't been made for over a year
2) A phone that was never sold to the public
Sure. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ebay&l=1
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Source, as in where he got the info about the OC capabilities and such.
not true. the same exact cpu.
simms22 said:
not true. the same exact cpu.
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That's exactly what they want you to think
uoY_redruM said:
Employee copies were "BETA" devices, for testing purposes. I have heard from several developers that they had a higher overclock capability..
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I have one, and although I haven't tested any high overclock kernels, it seems to be identical to the normal one and performs pretty much the same at any clock from 800mhz to 1100mhz
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That's exactly what they want you to think
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i had a chance to "unbrick" one earlier in the year. the owner soft bricked it and thought the world was over. the only thing that was different about the employee(holiday) edition nexus one was the spl. everything else was exactly the same.
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A source for
1) A phone that hasn't been made for over a year
2) A phone that was never sold to the public
Sure. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ebay&l=1
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Sorry if I was not explicit enough for you to discern my meaning. I ment a source for the 'Holiday edition' battery door.
yep same cpu actually you can oc and make it faster using cm6 or another rom running at 1113.6 or 1119.3
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yep same cpu actually you can oc and make it faster using cm6 or another rom running at 1113.6 or 1119.3
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lol. It's the modified kernel that allows an overclock, not the rom. It's not even worth OCing imho. All that risk for 113-119 mHz...And no noticeable difference (outside of benchmarks, which don't matter anyways).
With CM6 final and wildmonk kernel I overclock to 1228mhz with no problem. Now having it over clock to 1. 4 gh will be impressive
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sl8125 said:
With CM6 final and wildmonk kernel I overclock to 1228mhz with no problem. Now having it over clock to 1. 4 gh will be impressive
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I've never seen the point in risking a $500+ phone to squeeze better benchmarks out of it. To each his own, I guess.
Again, the rom you use has no affect on overclock capabilities. It's all the kernel and SetCPU.
Nice post count btw! lol
I like to max out the phone much as I can. It not line it runs at max all time only when its on. It will reduce the life of the phone. But do ever use the phone over a year or two. Nope. Its all a preference. Also you feel the difference on speed with oc.
And what about my post count? I am no dev. I am a phone enthusiast. I come here to get info and share my experience with the mods. Sorry if my post count is not to your liking.
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I like to max out the phone much as I can. It not line it runs at max all time only when its on. It will reduce the life of the phone. But do ever use the phone over a year or two. Nope. Its all a preference. Also you feel the difference on speed with oc.
And what about my post count? I am no dev. I am a phone enthusiast. I come here to get info and share my experience with the mods. Sorry if my post count is not to your liking.
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No no no you misunderstand. It was a compliment, 420 is a "sacred" number in California (and the US at large). Waaaay off topic, my apologies [OP]. Had to.
No disrespect intended.
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according to the Droid Eris linpack scores, evil Eris 3 seems to be coming out as it was posted as one of the roms
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Holy **** he's right though.
Check this out:
http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/linpack-by-device/
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LMAO.... its become a trend, you guys are mean.. i love it...
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Thinking about buying an incredible...
not because the better specs, but so I can get out of the eris boards :S
That's right Evil Eris 3 and a magical 1.3ghz overclock.
1300mhz???? Hmmmm
They are fake, you can submit anything you want to that site long as you know how.
I thought I read that they had a pretty extensive anti-cheating system in place Maybe someone has liquid cooling in their eris
I can confirm they are fake. I am not, nor have I ever had EE3 on my phone, yet I got 8mflops out of it.
What rom are you running. 8 is pretty amazing. Getting barely 3...
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Mines not fake... Beesley @ 5.45 mflops. 806mhz. not fake. not much to brag about, but no fake.
You guys with the fast speeds, can you post what settings you have your setcpu at, current rom and any tweaks you have? I am running Aloyius v11 MAPS version and only get 2.8
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I think he was saying "I don't have that rom and yet it says I have 8 mflops even though I never did that" or something. As jcase said, they're probably all fake. There's no way our little old eris could handle 1300mhz without like exploding. Hell I don't even think it could reach it in the first place.
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You guys with the fast speeds, can you post what settings you have your setcpu at, current rom and any tweaks you have? I am running Aloyius v11 MAPS version and only get 2.8
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Kevlar,
The ROMs that are the Vanilla ROM's with JIT are the ones that pull down high 4's and low 5's. Aloysius is a sense based the ave scores on these ROMs are 2.8-3.2. I am currently running sense-able and get 3.2. I have ran Eris lightning bolt and gotten 5. Oh my phone was at 729 when doing this.
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I think he was saying "I don't have that rom and yet it says I have 8 mflops even though I never did that" or something. As jcase said, they're probably all fake. There's no way our little old eris could handle 1300mhz without like exploding. Hell I don't even think it could reach it in the first place.
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They are fake, some of them are me showing how that site means jack. I can post 200mhz with 200mflops if you want.
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They are fake, some of them are me showing how that site means jack. I can post 200mhz with 200mflops if you want.
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Lol I'd like to see that. Not that I don't believe you, I just think it'd be funny.
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Kevlar,
The ROMs that are the Vanilla ROM's with JIT are the ones that pull down high 4's and low 5's. Aloysius is a sense based the ave scores on these ROMs are 2.8-3.2. I am currently running sense-able and get 3.2. I have ran Eris lightning bolt and gotten 5. Oh my phone was at 729 when doing this.
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OK. So no sense= 1 1/2x speed. I guess I need to decide which none sense ROM to check out. Thanks for the input.
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OK. So no sense= 1 1/2x speed. I guess I need to decide which none sense ROM to check out. Thanks for the input.
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Why? Aloysius with OC is plenty fast. You're not gonna get it up to like Nexus one speed if that's what you're trying for. But anyway, I think tainted vanilla would be a good one. I would say vanilladroid but it's outdated and I had lots of problems with it.
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Why? Aloysius with OC is plenty fast. You're not gonna get it up to like Nexus one speed if that's what you're trying for. But anyway, I think tainted vanilla would be a good one. I would say vanilladroid but it's outdated and I had lots of problems with it.
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It is fast. BUT I need different ringtones for different callers and v11 doesnt work in that area. So I went back to v6 with my mods. Its decent enough without OC. But I am just amazed at how fast ppl are getting with linpack. I guess its the I just wanna do it myself thing, ya know?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/
T-Mobile G2 with Google, first HSPA+ phone from T-Mobile.
http://g2.t-mobile.com/
Specs?
Can't wait for the g2. Gonna be hard to give up my NEXUS.
I don;t think the G2 will be the replacement of my N1. According to all the articles that I've read, they say it will be a 800MHz (only speculations at this time) processor and not a +1GHz. If this is true, then I'll wait for the N2.
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/12/rumor-t-mobiles-first-hspa-device-g1-blazehtc-g2/
I dont think its going to be the vision to be honest.
Its pointless to have a phone with scorching web speeds and an inferior processor. Android spin starts more bull**** rumors then anyone anyway.
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I dont think its going to be the vision to be honest.
Its pointless to have a phone with scorching web speeds and an inferior processor. Android spin starts more bull**** rumors then anyone anyway.
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This phone will not have anything past 1ghz snapdragons we all know as of right now. The new line isn't coming until the end of the year.
I think I might give up my nexi, I've been dying for a keyboard phone comparable to the nexus one. This may be it.
Not me. I rooted mine when the 1-click root app came out and it gave me more reasons to keep mine. I love it even more! I can't believe i thought of replacing it.
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so now that cyanogen has told us it's a different processor I'm hoping it'll be good. they need to release official specs soon
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so now that cyanogen has told us it's a different processor
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A) Link?
B) How would he know?
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A) Link?
B) How would he know?
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If you check his twitter account, he posted the details of the processor a couple of days ago. But yeah I think it said between 800mhz-1ghz
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I don;t think the G2 will be the replacement of my N1. According to all the articles that I've read, they say it will be a 800MHz (only speculations at this time) processor and not a +1GHz. If this is true, then I'll wait for the N2.
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/12/rumor-t-mobiles-first-hspa-device-g1-blazehtc-g2/
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This is one of those cases where MHz won't matter one bit. The chip has a whole bunch of new features not found on the N1, including many hardware multimedia accelerators. Plus, you really won't notice much of a different with just a 200MHz drop.
With a faster radio, more memory and better hardware acceleration, the CPU speed becomes less important.
I'll upgrade if it offers speedy HD video, HDMI out and more memory as those are the things I'm missing on my N1.
The phone will have the scorpion chip set which equivalent too the snapdragon, but with a better cpu and wvga screen
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It's going to be hard for me to give my Nexus up as well. I'm still trying to weigh my options on whether I should just go ahead and get the G2 or keep my N1. If the screen size is not 4.3" I will be keeping my Nexus until a 4.3" T-Mobile Android deice come out.
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Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Information from the leaked g2rom
mcp2009 said:
Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Thanks.
I'm still waiting for a 1.3-1.5 GHz phone before replacing my Nexus.
Honestly, im waitng for the next Dev phone, personally the mod community on the Nexus One is far superior to anything it could be on any other phone. So i'll wait, im not a slide out keyboard guy anyway. Google tends to release a new "dev" phone for each major release:
G1 - 1.0 &1.5
MT3G - 1.6 (i think)
Droid -2.0
Nexus One -2.1 & 2.2
Droid was never a development phone
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Droid was never a development phone
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no but is was a pure android phone (no skin or anything) and was the flagship phone for 2.0, so as far as im concerned it was an unofficial dev phone
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Droid was never a development phone
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no but is was a pure android phone (no skin or anything) and was the flagship phone for 2.0, so as far as im concerned it was an unofficial dev phone
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Not to mention Google was giving it away along with Nexus One's to developers.
1.28GHz IS NOT REAL
I know I posted it, and people have been running it. But after looking over the code more last night, I realized that I had been had. I took the word of another developer on the line for 1.28GHz, added it to my kernel, and it magically worked. After looking at it closer, whether intentional or not, he had the multiplier set at 0x1E(30), which is 1.152GHz. So even though it's reporting 1.28GHz, it's really running at 1.152GHz.
I've learned my lesson trusting someone else for what I should have looked into more closely, and I hope you all don't think worse of me for doing that. I apologize for leading people astray with this, but hey, at least I'm man enough to admit it.
Again, I really feel bad for misleading people on this, it's not in my nature to do that, ok maybe some, but not with something like this.
With that all said, I could do one showing maybe 4.71GHz, now that'd be awesome for screenshots. lol
Z
No worries. The cool thing is that my phone was actually mostly stable at 1.15 which was never really possible before. Usually i get freezes and bootloops. On yours the worse i got was an app quitting once in awhile.
no worries dude you did the right thing
So if I get up to 88 miles per hour my phone won't put out the 1.28 gigawatts to make me time travel? That's a shame.
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brownie points for coming clean
has anyone made a custom oc uv with the new .17 kernel yet?
EDIT: i feel dumb...didn't realize source wasn't out for the new kern.
I didn't use the kernel, but you doing this makes me (and hopefully everyone else) respect you even more as a developer.
jdkoreclipse release another ROM?...
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No worries. The cool thing is that my phone was actually mostly stable at 1.15 which was never really possible before. Usually i get freezes and bootloops. On yours the worse i got was an app quitting once in awhile.
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no worries dude you did the right thing
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brownie points for coming clean
has anyone made a custom oc uv with the new .17 kernel yet?
EDIT: i feel dumb...didn't realize source wasn't out for the new kern.
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I didn't use the kernel, but you doing this makes me (and hopefully everyone else) respect you even more as a developer.
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At least I'm getting the response I was hoping for, thank you all for understanding. I'll be re-doing all my kernels this evening. I may even do some capped at 2.6496GHz, that way people can play to see how high they really can go. Brownie points to anyone that figures out why I choose that freq. lol
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So if I get up to 88 miles per hour my phone won't put out the 1.28 gigawatts to make me time travel? That's a shame.
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Sorry dude, I was hoping for time travel myself, but for now, we're stuck in the present.
Z
Not a problem man, it wasn't like you were doing it on purpose. So all is good. We appreciate your work!
Makes sense. I tried it on the Feather ROM and was getting almost exactly the same performance/scores.
Much appreciated for coming clean and letting everyone know. I doubt anyone would hold it against you.
Z,
You are a good person for accepting the blame for somebody else's mistake. Either way your kernels are better than almost all others on the desire ports so I am sticking to them. Happy with the performance and it being stable at 1.152. Made me follow you on twitter.
2 other comments/questions:
1. did u take out the debug script that you had posted about on twitter? I did not see battery loss anyways...
2. I tried your incredible AOSP kernel on ultimate droid 1.0.0 but it turned the touch screen into unresponsive mode. Did dalvik wipe etc. Given that UD is like CM, I would have thought it would need an AOSP kernel but perhaps I was wrong. Could you please take a look at that?
Thanks and keep up the good work.
ziggy471 said:
1.28GHz IS NOT REAL
I know I posted it, and people have been running it. But after looking over the code more last night, I realized that I had been had. I took the word of another developer on the line for 1.28GHz, added it to my kernel, and it magically worked. After looking at it closer, whether intentional or not, he had the multiplier set at 0x1E(30), which is 1.152GHz. So even though it's reporting 1.28GHz, it's really running at 1.152GHz.
I've learned my lesson trusting someone else for what I should have looked into more closely, and I hope you all don't think worse of me for doing that. I apologize for leading people astray with this, but hey, at least I'm man enough to admit it.
Again, I really feel bad for misleading people on this, it's not in my nature to do that, ok maybe some, but not with something like this.
With that all said, I could do one showing maybe 4.71GHz, now that'd be awesome for screenshots. lol
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Placebo I love it, lol Hey thanks for clearing that up ziggy!!
ID
P.S. Can we get a placebo of over 9000!!!!! I kidd
Spider man
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Z,
You are a good person for accepting the blame for somebody else's mistake. .......
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I'm currently using the aosp kernel with shadow rom and it's working great. Just that slight battery drain with screen on is the only issue I have with it currently.
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whewstoosae said:
I'm currently using the aosp kernel with shadow rom and it's working great. Just that slight battery drain with screen on is the only issue I have with it currently.
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I know what the problem is, and will try and post new kernels tonight.
So ID wanted a 9GHz kernel, should I do it just for grins???
Z
Hm. Will this be good with battery drain as well as a decent performer?
Much respect Ziggy, takes a real man to admit a gaff, even if it's not your gaff to own up to!
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haha... hows his ass taste?
sorry you fell right into that one
I hadn't heard of your kernels before this thread, but I'm giving the latest a try. I'm one of the lucky few that can run stable at 1.19 GHz, so 1.28 would have been insane.
The latest kernel is running great. The only issue I'm having, I can't connect to wifi file explorer. Anyone have any suggestions?
The other day a friend of mine with the new Evo 3D told me that, even while the phone has a locked bootloader and no root, someone was able to overclock the phone to 1.8 Ghz...That's insane! It's 1.2 by default.
Ours is 1.0 of course, what do you think we could max it out at in the future, as more development happens on the phone down the road?
And for that matter, do you think we'd be able to see those "trickle" battery kernel things implemented at some point? I read about those some time ago and it seemed pretty awesome/great for battery life without being limited on usage.
What are some of your thoughts on our kernel-ish future?
Tegra 2 optimization with 1.5 ghz max overclock imo.
I'm not putting my phone past 1.2 though. 1.2 tegra results are 3300ish/2800ish on smartbench, and that's good enough for anything on android atm.
We just need a CM7 build on the atrix. Even if it's not too great. That'll attract a huge crowd to it and then we'll have an even more active dev community.
1.8ghz Evo3d is about equal with a 1.0ghz atrix lol
The Xoom Tegra 2's seem to be overclocking rather well.
1.5ghz looks like the sweet spot.
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Tegra 2 optimization with 1.5 ghz max overclock imo.
I'm not putting my phone past 1.2 though. 1.2 tegra results are 3300ish/2800ish on smartbench, and that's good enough for anything on android atm.
We just need a CM7 build on the atrix. Even if it's not too great. That'll attract a huge crowd to it and then we'll have an even more active dev community.
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well last night i asked aliasxerog on twitter how the port was going and he said, "I have a kernel in the oven as we speak" I can't wait
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well last night i asked aliasxerog on twitter how the port was going and he said, "I have a kernel in the oven as we speak" I can't wait
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
http://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
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http://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog
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Excellent. So is he one of the guys that had an Atrix Sent to him?
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thebeardedchild said:
Excellent. So is he one of the guys that had an Atrix Sent to him?
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Pretty sure, but hes def devving cm7 roms
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Pretty sure, but hes def devving cm7 roms
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Cool beans. I had no idea that they had any progress, especially this far along
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Cool beans. I had no idea that they had any progress, especially this far along
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I think he may be having trouble getting a bootable rom though. So hopefully it works out with his new kernel/magics. Read through his twitter a bit, some golden nugs in there
The moto XOOM, which has Tegra 2, is stable at 1.7 ghz
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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It all depends on the voltage.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the clock doesn't affect the heat of the chip, only the voltage does (which can change with the clock, but doesn't have to). So you can have a 1.2 ghz cpu running at 6mv and a 1.0 ghz cpu running at 6mv and they will run at the same temps (if I'm correct).
He tweeted again
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So it seems some of you guys think 1.5 will be the most we might be able to overclock? What would be the reasoning behind this? I mean I've seen a lot of phones, dual core and single core that get up to like 1.8...
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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I have my Xoom stable at 1.6ghz. From what I've read, that seems to be pretty standard, some unlucky soles have to settle for 1.4 (or even less) but there's also a decent number of lucky ones who have it running stably 1.7ghz.
I've had my Atrix for a month or so now, and being international, can't unlock the bootloader (yet). Can't wait to see some custom ROMs/kernels!!
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So it seems some of you guys think 1.5 will be the most we might be able to overclock? What would be the reasoning behind this? I mean I've seen a lot of phones, dual core and single core that get up to like 1.8...
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I say 1.5 is easy for us. Perhaps 1.7/1.8 can come at a later time, but I've seen Faux's kernel on the G2X for 1.5, and that just seems to be a sweet spot for Tegra2.
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
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The processor in the Atrix has 2 cores where as the EVO has 1.. that = moar powa!
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The processor in the Atrix has 2 cores where as the EVO has 1.. that = moar powa!
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The evo 3d is dual core though..
Edit: oh I see I accidentally said just evolution, sorry.
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It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?
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It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?
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Dual coreeeeeee bro! Haha jk. Im sure Moto just doesn't want us having fun.
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2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!
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2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!
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Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.
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Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.
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Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.
BravoMotorola said:
Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.
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You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement
k4zyn said:
You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement
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I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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paravorheim said:
I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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Really, I've never seen such a forum where no matter what the topic, everyone wastes time bickering about terminology, or rules or blah.
im trying to get people thinking about possible ways to break past this 1.1 barrier. Or to decide right now if its even possible!
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I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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I don't see why not. The XOOM can do it. But im sure Moto put up some road blocks.
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crossix said:
I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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Yeah you're post isn't contributing well to this apparently poor community either. Like I said, if you haven't anything productive to say, gtfo. There's more to be done than to just wait for devs to magically do it. Us lowly non devs can still look into what can be done. What do you suggest we do in these forums if not to promote discussion of enhancements to our phone?
The point of this thread is to sort of take the pressure off the devs to figure it all out on their own.
If you're gonna wastes everyones time, we'd like you to kindly take your whining back to the aria forum or something..
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Whining stops now.
If you want to discuss getting a bounty together for overclocking beyond 1.1Ghz, by all means continue to do so.
Otherwise, this thread will be closed.
Heh hopefully if a mod says what I've been harping this whole time it sticks. Well, anyone think a bounty for this is worth it? Honestly, other dual core phones are almost to 2.0. If we're fast at 1.1 can you imagine more? I'm never content with where I'm at so I say we get this phone as high as it can.
That being said, one concern is that anything higher than 1.1 is physically impossible no matter how you cut it. Like I said other dual cores are oc'd high, but who knows how this thing is different!
The real question before bounty talks can be made is: can we determine if its possible? Were other phones in this situation?
I remember when faux initially discussed it, he made it sound like it was some simple code holding it back but I dunno really..
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In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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Those are good points. And yeah I probably worded that wrong, with the "simple line of code" thing, because now that you mention it that sounds TOO simple lol. I can't really remember what he said, but at the time it seemed less serious, as in 'the next version of my kernel would bypass it', ya know what I mean? But now here we are, still at 1.1. However, at the same time, the only guy really working on getting higher than 1.1 had halted his kernel progress to work on CM7, so I dunno. Perhaps a bounty would be good to get more devs in to take a look at it and see what to do.
And yeah it's a little reassuring to know that the Xoom did it, with essentially the same processor. Does anyone know if it had the same type of roadblock associated with it, where they couldn't OC much higher for a time?
From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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Yeah I'd be willing to donate as well, of course (a given, as I seem to be worrying about this too much anyways ).
I've wondered if, since faux announced that "barrier", if either him or anyone else has even attempted to look at what causes it. I'm not saying 'those lazy bastards!!!11!' or anything, but if that's the case I'd almost feel better since that explains why it hasn't been done yet. Otherwise, the longer they HAVE looked at it with no avail, the more likely it is we're stuck at 1.1
Maybe tinkering will help...I honestly thought it would help while they developed it in the first place, since like you said earlier, it seems like it's not a hardware thing so a new ROM could have helped...
Someone with coding knowledge should contact whoever made the xoom overclock.
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Remember that a phone is essentially a small computer. It's not just the CPU which is involved. Memory timings, voltages, and cooling all play a huge part in OC'ing a CPU. This may be where the problem lies. If the phone requires memory timings which make it extremely unstable/unuseable at an OC higher than 1.1GHz, then it will always be a no go, no matter how you look at it. Similarily, if you have to step up the voltage, you induce more heat, and there is no active cooling in a phone.
In essence, there are many reasons why the OC may have stopped at 1.1GHz. It seems people really need to understand overclocking overall before commenting on what is and is not possible.
There is also the chance that nobody has really looked at this as important because all the work has gone into creating CM7, etc. I would say OC'ing past 1.1GHz is low on the totem pole for the few devs who are capable of doing it.
kholk claims to be releasing a 1.2 kernal today, I believe lt to be for testing to make sure it works but we shall see.
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